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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 8:55am On Oct 09, 2019
GalaticHorde:
Elizabeth Warren is now the democratic frontrunner! I hope Bernie Sanders picks up and displaces Joe Biden from the second position, all establishment democrats need to be removed

The one that has so many inconsistencies in her story..You would think trump is done if Biden drops out..He wont even go to Ukraine for dirt on Warren,He will get it there in America.
Hand over the ticket to her and see her go the way of Hilary..You think America would vote for a socialist president which is still also a woman?Guess you don't know America isnt ready yet for a female president..One of the reasons why Hilary lost is that..
I hope when Trump becomes president again and decides to also go for 3rd term you wont complain one bit

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 8:58am On Oct 09, 2019
TheShopKeeper:


...the constitution gives the house of representatives the power to conduct impeachment proceedings... and not one word in the constitution gives the white house a say in the matter...once the house votes to impeach...then according to the constitution it is up to the senate to hold a trial and decide whether to remove the president....

....treasontrump is just behaving like a fascist leader, clearly obstructing the process of democracy, thus making the USA a laughing stock....

Except that the whole house is not conducting the impeachment but the democrats are. Trump may be smarter than you think just sit back and observe

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 10:03am On Oct 09, 2019
raumdeuter:
US Rep. Ilhan Omar suggested Monday that the press and her political foes are partly to blame for the demise of her marriage.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/10/07/ilhan-omar-blames-the-media-political-foes-for-killing-her-marriage/amp/

It's been alleged that Ilhan is having an affair with a DC man Tim Mynett
Honestly I wouldn't really care for a cent for what she does to and in her marriage, but I will point out one hypocrisy though: If this was done by a Male Republican/Conservative he would definitely be called sexist and evil. So the Democrats will never call her out cos they woudn't want to be under that classification.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 10:07am On Oct 09, 2019
stanech:


Except that the whole house is not conducting the impeachment but the democrats are. Trump may be smarter than you think just sit back and observe
Lol and they don't care about the process, they're pulling out all the stops not minding the pit ahead that awaits them grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 11:01am On Oct 09, 2019
grin. The dumbest person ever elected to congress grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 11:24am On Oct 09, 2019
TheShopKeeper:


...the constitution gives the house of representatives the power to conduct impeachment proceedings... and not one word in the constitution gives the white house a say in the matter...once the house votes to impeach...then according to the constitution it is up to the senate to hold a trial and decide whether to remove the president....

....treasontrump is just behaving like a fascist leader, clearly obstructing the process of democracy, thus making the USA a laughing stock....
The Constitution also lays out the procedure to be followed by the house of Representatives in impeaching the president one of which is that they should hold a vote in the house authorizing impeachment proceedings before it can officially begin. This has not been done, so what is happening in the house now is not impeachment proceedings and that's why they are smartly calling it an inquiry instead of proceedings. In other words, they are still making inquiries to determine if they will begin impeachment proceedings against Trump and guess what? At this stage, the white house absolutely has the power of executive privilege over what their staff can do or not do. Trump knows this and he clearly intends to use that privilege to the fullest. Like someone told you earlier, Trump is smarter than you think, just sit back and watch, this movie is about to get interesting wink

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 11:26am On Oct 09, 2019
stanech:
grin. The dumbest person ever elected to congress grin grin
She's also probably the dumbest that will ever be elected to Congress.
The dumbest there is, the dumbest there was and the dumbest there ever will be grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 11:31am On Oct 09, 2019
GalaticHorde:
rep ilhan Omar is living rent free in the head of Republicans, there's no helping that cheesy
I don't think there's any Republican that is half as obsessed with Omar as the Democrats are obsessed with Trump. The liberals' obsession with Trump has turned them into Stark raving lunatics appropriately earning them the appellation "lunatic liberals"

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 11:53am On Oct 09, 2019
Anduku:

She's also probably the dumbest that will ever be elected to Congress.
The dumbest there is, the dumbest there was and the dumbest there ever will be grin


grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 11:57am On Oct 09, 2019
Anduku:

The Constitution also lays out the procedure to be followed by the house of Representatives in impeaching the president one of which is that they should hold a vote in the house authorizing impeachment proceedings before it can officially begin. This has not been done, so what is happening in the house now is not impeachment proceedings and that's why they are smartly calling it an inquiry instead of proceedings. In other words, they are still making inquiries to determine if they will begin impeachment proceedings against Trump and guess what? At this stage, the white house absolutely has the power of executive privilege over what their staff can do or not do. Trump knows this and he clearly intends to use that privilege to the fullest. Like someone told you earlier, Trump is smarter than you think, just sit back and watch, this movie is about to get interesting wink

Can you please show us the place and chapter it is written in the US constitution that a vote is needed on the floor before an impeachment enquiry can be started..The exact place where it is written..

Thanks
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 12:56pm On Oct 09, 2019
happney65:


Can you please show us the place and chapter it is written in the US constitution that a vote is needed on the floor before an impeachment enquiry can be started..The exact place where it is written..

Thanks

It is in the house rule. The House do not take any decision without a vote. Especially not one as serious as an impeachment. Nanci and her gang do not have the power to make that decision on their own. Simple logic

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 1:01pm On Oct 09, 2019
stanech:


It is in the house rule. The House do not take any decision without a vote. Especially not one as serious as an impeachment. Nanci and her gang do not have the power to make that decision on their own. Simple logic

Lol..I said you should show me where it is..you are not..Show me the house rule..

And btw,You said nancy do not have the power to make the decision?which decision please?Ohh I guess you have forgotten who is in the majority?or in your alternate reality majority do not carry the votes isnt it?

Lol..Funny people

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 1:15pm On Oct 09, 2019
happney65:


Lol..I said you should show me where it is..you are not..Show me the house rule..

And btw,You said nancy do not have the power to make the decision?which decision please?Ohh I guess you have forgotten who is in the majority?or in your alternate reality majority do not carry the votes isnt it?

Lol..Funny people

The house can only take a decision after a vote is carried out. It is not about who is in the majority. That's how parliaments around the world operate. If pelosi is so convinced she should put it to vote and make it official

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 1:17pm On Oct 09, 2019
happney65:


Lol..I said you should show me where it is..you are not..Show me the house rule..

And btw,You said nancy do not have the power to make the decision?which decision please?Ohh I guess you have forgotten who is in the majority?or in your alternate reality majority do not carry the votes isnt it?

Lol..Funny people

FYI having a majority in the house is not a guarantee that you will always have your way. Because some may go against the party on some issues. That's what madam speaker is afraid of.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 1:22pm On Oct 09, 2019
happney65:


Lol..I said you should show me where it is..you are not..Show me the house rule..

And btw,You said nancy do not have the power to make the decision?which decision please?Ohh I guess you have forgotten who is in the majority?or in your alternate reality majority do not carry the votes isnt it?

Lol..Funny people

FYI trump is just playing the dems.

He is going to drag this on along the line he is exposing the dems weaknesses and corruption. The aim is to get them exhausted before the election. By then he will start ditching out their corrupt practices.

His base is still intact he still got 95 percent republicans all he needs is a few independent and 2020 is done and dusted

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 1:25pm On Oct 09, 2019
stanech:


The house can only take a decision after a vote is carried out. It is not about who is in the majority. That's how parliaments around the world operate. If pelosi is so convinced she should put it to vote and make it official

Am not even arguing with you. Kindly show me where that is in the US constitution or House rules..Simple as ABC..

It's just like saying the govornship candidate of the APC in Oyo state that refused to put the picture of the current governor of Oyo state at the reception of any of his hotels has commited a crime..

Most hotels and banks etc put the picture of the current governor together with the President at the reception of their hotels but it isnt compulsory nor in the Law..

So if it isnt in the Law it isnt compulsory to be done and not inlegal if it isnt done..So for me to know that what Pelosi is doing or has done wrong is trully wrong,Kindly show me the section it is in the Law of the United states of America or show me where it is in House rule..

Thank you!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 1:50pm On Oct 09, 2019
happney65:

It's just like saying the govornship candidate of the APC in Oyo state that refused to put the picture of the current governor of Oyo state at the reception of any of his hotels has commited a crime..

Most hotels and banks etc put the picture of the current governor together with the President at the reception of their hotels but it isnt compulsory nor in the Law.

Thank you!


So you want to equate this to calling for the impeachment of a duly elected president ? Lol

Well I do not know where it is stated in the constitution but I do know that impeaching a duly elected president takes more than what the democrats are doing. And I also know that a vote is needed on the house for decision such as this to be taken

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 1:54pm On Oct 09, 2019
stanech:



So you want to equate this to calling for the impeachment of a duly elected president ? Lol

Well I do not know where it is stated in the constitution but I do know that impeaching a duly elected president takes more than what the democrats are doing. And I also know that a vote is needed on the house for decision such as this to be taken

So you dont know where that is in the constitution or house rules yet you claim that is the way to go?Isnt that fake news the one that you listen to on Foxnews?

For example we know that the house can impeach the president to it be ratified by the senate,But in this area that me and you are talking about..Kindly show me where that is needed you are not showing me you keep beating around the bush.Isnt it?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 1:55pm On Oct 09, 2019
happney65:


The one that has so many inconsistencies in her story..You would think trump is done if Biden drops out..He wont even go to Ukraine for dirt on Warren,He will get it there in America.
Hand over the ticket to her and see her go the way of Hilary..You think America would vote for a socialist president which is still also a woman?Guess you don't know America isnt ready yet for a female president..One of the reasons why Hilary lost is that..
I hope when Trump becomes president again and decides to also go for 3rd term you wont complain one bit

I hope Warren gets the ticket so that it will be an easy ride for Trump. You wonder why Trump only attacks Biden and not the other Dem candidates? Because he knows only Biden stands a chance but I want liberals and leftists to get their choice of Warren and lets see how she wins Ohio, Florida and other places not named California NewYork and Massachussets

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 1:59pm On Oct 09, 2019
raumdeuter:


I hope Warren gets the ticket so that it will be an easy ride for Trump. You wonder why Trump only attacks Biden and not the other Dem candidates? Because he knows only Biden stands a chance but I want liberals and leftists to get their choice of Warren and lets see how she wins Ohio, Florida and other places not named California NewYork and Massachussets

Exactly,Trump would be happy and defeat her in a landslide..On Elizabeth they are doing a big big mistake..There is no way under heaven she would defeat Trump..Not at all..Trump knew from the word go Biden is the candidate to beat that is why he is going for him. As for Elizabeth,she would be roasted in fire..

That is the truth and nothing else

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 2:00pm On Oct 09, 2019
Anduku:

The Constitution also lays out the procedure to be followed by the house of Representatives in impeaching the president one of which is that they should hold a vote in the house authorizing impeachment proceedings before it can officially begin. This has not been done, so what is happening in the house now is not impeachment proceedings and that's why they are smartly calling it an inquiry instead of proceedings. In other words, they are still making inquiries to determine if they will begin impeachment proceedings against Trump and guess what? At this stage, the white house absolutely has the power of executive privilege over what their staff can do or not do. Trump knows this and he clearly intends to use that privilege to the fullest. Like someone told you earlier, Trump is smarter than you think, just sit back and watch, this movie is about to get interesting wink

....@anduku...any link to the above information wherein it is highlighted in the constitution...article, section, clause...

...for example...article II, section 4 of the article of impeachment states: https://history.house.gov/Institution/Origins-Development/Impeachment/

...the president, vice president and all civil officers of the united states, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors (the bolded covers anything in the following: allegations of misconduct by officials, such as dishonesty, negligence, perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of public funds or assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, unbecoming conduct, refusal to obey a lawful order, chronic intoxication, including such offenses as tax evasion....

...based on the information quoted above...treaasontrump can easily be convicted...if not for treason, but for a number of high crimes and misdemeanors...(abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, unbecoming conduct, failure to obey a lawful order, issues pending relating to his tax returns)...thank goodness, trump is a teetotal...
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 2:18pm On Oct 09, 2019
stanech:



So you want to equate this to calling for the impeachment of a duly elected president ? Lol

Well I do not know where it is stated in the constitution but I do know that impeaching a duly elected president takes more than what the democrats are doing. And I also know that a vote is needed on the house for decision such as this to be taken

....the us constitution, article II, section 4...if looked closely...makes no constitutional requirement that a majority of the house of representatives is necessary to launch an impeachment inquiry....in actual fact...anyone person is needed in the house of presentatives ti recommend an inquiry...even a non-member can recommend an iniquiry as shown when kenneth starr launched an iniquiry into the sex lies by bill clinton in 1998...

...so according to the above article...if the house of representatives have the power to impeach, then it surely must have the authority to conduct investigations that could lead to a decision whether to impeach a public office holder...after it has been referred to the senate...

...this time around...trump and the white house are using the same failed tactics used by richard nixon...when he was charged with obstruction of justice, abuse of power and contempt of congress....no one is above the law...trump is getting to the level of a tyranny...the rule of law must be obeyed....

...

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 2:29pm On Oct 09, 2019
...link to the letter from the white house to the house of representative leader nancy pelosi...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PAC-Letter-10.08.2019.pdf
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 2:51pm On Oct 09, 2019
TheShopKeeper:


....the us constitution, article II, section 4...if looked closely...makes no constitutional requirement that a majority of the house of representatives is necessary to launch an impeachment inquiry....in actual fact...anyone person is needed in the house of presentatives ti recommend an inquiry...even a non-member can recommend an iniquiry as shown when kenneth starr launched an iniquiry into the sex lies by bill clinton in 1992...

...so according to the above article...if the house of representatives have the power to impeach, then it surely must have the authority to conduct investigations that could lead to a decision whether to impeach a public office holder...after it has been referred to the senate...

...this time around...trump and the white house are using the same failed tactics used by richard nixon...when he was charged with obstruction of justice, abuse of power and contempt of congress....no one is above the law...trump is getting to the level of a tyranny...the rule of law must be obeyed....

...

You dey mind them?The so called party of the Law. The so called party of christian Values..Party of Family Values is in bed with a complete abuser of the Law and they are coming up with different stories to back up their complete and arrant abuse of the constitution..

What are Shame!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 3:31pm On Oct 09, 2019
happney65:


The one that has so many inconsistencies in her story..You would think trump is done if Biden drops out..He wont even go to Ukraine for dirt on Warren,He will get it there in America.
Hand over the ticket to her and see her go the way of Hilary..You think America would vote for a socialist president which is still also a woman?Guess you don't know America isnt ready yet for a female president..One of the reasons why Hilary lost is that..
I hope when Trump becomes president again and decides to also go for 3rd term you wont complain one bit
we will see what we will see, you are free to continue thinking, Warren is my second choice, Bernie is my first, if either wins the nomination they'd work together because for them and unlike trump, the constitution starts with "we the people" and not "me the President"
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 3:35pm On Oct 09, 2019
How can an anonymous whistle-blower be receiving death threats if they are anonymous?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 3:38pm On Oct 09, 2019
Anduku:

I don't think there's any Republican that is half as obsessed with Omar as the Democrats are obsessed with Trump. The liberals' obsession with Trump has turned them into Stark raving lunatics appropriately earning them the appellation "lunatic liberals"
it is not the same thing anduku and you know it, ilhan Omar is not President and her personal decisions does not impact every single American, there is no reason for her to have a castle rent and tax free in your head, if i were to be yapping about Mitch McConnell this and that 247 like you guys do A.O.C, ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib and Ayana Presley when they can't single handedly impact on you in any significant way then we can compare! When A.O.C or ilhan Omar becomes president, you can rent out that luxury apartment in your head to her not before wink
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 3:46pm On Oct 09, 2019
stanech:
grin. The dumbest person ever elected to congress grin grin
you call her dumb while wallowing in your trump like great and unmatched wisdom! Even a toddler knows A.O.C and progressive Democrats support the withdrawal of troops and ending of foreign wars just not in the irrational abrupt timeline trump came up with out of his arse because of what the repercussions will be on the war effort and on U.S allies the Kurds! When criticizing use some intelligence abeg
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 3:58pm On Oct 09, 2019
GalaticHorde:
we will see what we will see, you are free to continue thinking, Warren is my second choice, Bernie is my first, if either wins the nomination they'd work together because for them and unlike trump, the constitution starts with "we the people" and not "me the President"

Okay..I hope am wrong sha..I really do
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 5:51pm On Oct 09, 2019
DEVELOPING: WH letter creates stalemate w House, pushing action into courts, effectively halting impeachment in its tracks. Dems hoped to ram thru impeachment by Xmas,but now face misfortune of selling it during election yr. Meantime,Durham's #Spygate investigation picks up steam

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 5:53pm On Oct 09, 2019
As per the Constitution, the House, not the speaker, has sole power of impeachment.
Trump is on solid legal ground, here.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by stanech: 6:10pm On Oct 09, 2019
BREAKING: Hill sources say fear is spreading among moderate Democrats that the impeachment inquiry may be irrevocably tainted by a series of actions taken by the Pelosi leadership which the public will come to view as "unfair" and "overly partisan"

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