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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:22pm On Sep 17, 2023 |
IjeBos: I thought I explained what you are up to. Alinsky rule No. 4. I agree with you. She like Caesar's wife should be beyond reproach. " For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". I don't know whether that should not apply to conservatives. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it" - Saul Alinsky |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BornAgainCow: 6:36pm On Sep 17, 2023 |
basilico: Lol. I don’t understand these liberals making a mountain over this Boebert story. So the fact that someone is conservative means they are infallible? And the fact that ONE conservative does something silly in her personal life means the entire party must be held accountable for it? Because she’s a child right? Lol. I can’t get the logic. They are just desperate for any type of republican scandal to distract from the fact that their president is currently imploding all over the place. And for the last time not every conservative is religious. There is a religious wing of the party no doubt but I have explained it many times before that the Republican Party is a multi-faction party. There are Many non-religious and even socially liberal Republicans. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:06pm On Sep 17, 2023 |
bemeruca: Bemeruca, Very correct. Someone here is seething that you are spewing lies about the honorable Biden family. To add to this Ukraine firing of Shokin the Ukraine prosecutor. This is for the benefit of these Biden supporters including the coon. FBI was briefed by a Confidential Source of theirs that Burisma owner was forced to part with a $10 million bribe to the Bidens, $5 m each to Joe and Hunter. He has 17 recordings of phone conversations with the Bidens, 15 with Hunter and 2 with Biden. And He paid the bribe through convoluted shell companies that would take years to uncover. Joe Biden threatened to block $1 B of aid to Ukraine if Shokin was not fired. And Joe bragged about it , video available. Sad part, these idiots think that all this is a lie |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BornAgainCow: 9:17pm On Sep 17, 2023 |
basilico: They are programmed to repeat the DNC’s talking point that “there is no evidence” even though there has been a mammoth of evidence over the past few months. They simply choose not to acknowledge it. Have you seen that video of Kevin McCarthy finally getting a liberal journalist to admit that there is evidence? It was so funny. It ended with her saying something like “well yeah, there is all this evidence but do you really think that’s enough to impeach him” lol. Watch it below 👇 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XbYRChHfMc |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:25pm On Sep 17, 2023 |
BornAgainCow: These liberals are not really out and out liberals. They only support the causes that favour them which are liberal like black victim mentality, freebies from the west, free abortions to cover their promiscuity and so on. With the coming of Trump, they hold some positions on many matters simply because they hate him and his supporters. Boebert is a case brought about by her own behavior What she did does not apply across the board to everyone. Conservativism is really about going on with long practiced ideals and traditions, which worked and which to the western world are mostly rooted in Judeo Xtian values. Liberals want to upend societal norms wth their perceived utopia. Sort of reshaping the world to be 'modern'. Some people will rather stick to their traditions which are not always religious in nature. For instance respecting your elders. Or bringing up disciplined children. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BornAgainCow: 9:36pm On Sep 17, 2023 |
basilico: I agree with you. Boebert should be held accountable for her own actions. I have a feeling she will lose her next primary but that is on her. I don’t see how that’s an indictment of the entire Republican Party. Yes the party is generally guided by Judeo-Christian principles but at the end of the day humans fall short. And every human should be held responsible for their actions individually. The fact these liberals see this as a big win for them is hilarious. But as you said they are not true liberals. They are just political opportunists. A true liberal will stand up against slut shaming a woman. But these internet liberals are basking in it just because it’s a conservative. And it’s not like she has nudes or sex tapes like Hunter Biden ooooo. That one is okay to them lol. Silly hypocrites. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:27pm On Sep 17, 2023 |
BornAgainCow: Actually they got clear shots of Boebert in a public theatre . But they cannot get footage of who left cocaine in the white house. Says it all. They still don't know who left a pipe bomb Jan 6 2021 outside the DNC and RNC offices. And Boebert is the very first woman on earth to grab the crotch of her date in a dark theatre., .We know this courtesy of high def night vision CCTV. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BornAgainCow: 3:43am On Sep 18, 2023 |
Honesty the rate at which this country is declining is really getting staggering. Senators will soon be dressing like tech bro’s to work. 😂😂
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by BornAgainCow: 5:07am On Sep 18, 2023 |
Interesting polls; 1) support for Biden’s impeachment is growing among the public. Im impressed with how well Republicans are handling this. They learnt well from what the Democrats did to Trump. Keep dripping the evidence systematically from now till the election. Make sure every week there is one new shoe to drop. Hehe 2) Trump now officially ahead of Biden in 2024 polls. Incredible after everything they’ve thrown at this man lol. Democrats can’t believer their eyes.
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:34pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
BornAgainCow: They should not impeach him. It's only ijebos who have nothing to do but sok deek all day think this guy and his son are without blemish |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:38pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
bemeruca: Fact Check 1.) Shokin (the Ukrainian Prosecutor General) was not investigating Burisma at the time he was fired. That was the problem, he wasn't investigating corruption. Because he was corrupt. So removing him would have brought in a prosecutor who would investigate corruption. 2.) The EU and the US State Department wanted him gone. Obama was the president and Biden was sent to deliver the message for the policy Obama's State Dept wanted. In fact some Republican Senators wrote a letter in support of the policy. The goal was to reduce corruption in Ukraine so that they could get EU membership and/or the US could give them more aid. 3.) Your argument is somehow, Hunter paid the EU, Obama, Secretary of State and some Republican Senators to get rid of a prosecutor that wasn't investigating Burisma and advocate for one who would? 4.) But don't believe me. Listen to super conservative (Freedom Caucus member, the caucus of all those leftists (Boebert, Gaetz and formerly MTG) Republican Ken Buck on Fox News on Sunday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Dtq8bUxdo You are what a dullard, inhaling right wing propaganda sounds like. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:39pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
According to a CNN poll, 61% of Americans believe that Pres. Biden was directly involved in his son Hunter's shady business dealings with Ukraine and China during Biden’s tenure as VP in the Obama administration. No wonder the Pres. is down in the polls. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:53pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
IjeBos: You cannot lie to us by using the words Fact check. The video could be someone ignorant. We have been following what was going on. The fact that he says there is no evidence linking Hunter and Biden is a red flag already. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:56pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
basilico: Those "They"s.. See nuttery Who are "they"? Do you wear your tinfoil hat so "they" don't read you mind or "they " don't mind control you? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:05pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
bemeruca: You are following what is going on from your 4.5 inch screen in PHC? And you know better than Ken Buck a ultra conservative REPUBLICAN member of the House who dislikes Biden and used to be a Prosecutor? Do you see how stupid you sound. Your opinion is worthless as I think you're too stupid to formulate a rational thought. F*cking nutters. The fact check was for anyone who stops in an wants actual FACTS. Continue on with your nutter circle jerk. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/16/gop-rep-ken-buck-impeachment-biden-00116396 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:31pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
bemeruca: Just to put a button on this nuttery. This article was written in March 2016 before Trump became President. In 2016 right after he was fired, everyone was cheering the decision. 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 7:30pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
IjeBos: Stop lying. You lie too much 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 7:57pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
IjeBos:They fired him or voted him out because of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhrLWL7jzPY?si=L8NN2GKdieOQSE6- What does Trump have to do with this? Before Trump became president, the Bidens had been taking bribes that's what it means. Biden asked for the guy to be fired and he was fired else they won't be receiving the moola. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 8:10pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
bemeruca: You're a fuxing idiot. Maybe you are having a hard time with the word dormant. Dormant: : marked by a suspension of activity: such as : temporarily devoid of external activity At the time Shokin was fired, he was not investigating Burisma, because the investigation was dormant. Dormant = Not investigating. Everyone wanted him to investigate Burisma. Shokin was not. They finally fired him, because Biden pressured them with not getting US Aid Money. The EU said they would have done the same, if they had the kind of money the US did. If he was protecting Hunter, why would he fire a prosecutor who had made the investigation dormant? This shit is not hard to understand. In fact it was Obama US policy, briefed to Biden by the State Department. Only f*cking cultish idiots like you and your nutters here keep repeating this BS. You sound stupid doing so to those with actual brains. But in your circle jerk, you're brilliant. Below is the State department briefing material for Biden before his trip in 2015. This was produced as part of Trump's impeachment. So, all the BS right wing nuts you listen to know this exists, know they are lying and continue lying to you, because you Trumpers are uneducated idiots and they know you'll believe any BS. https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2023-08/VPBidenTPUkraineMeetingShokin.pdf 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 8:25pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
BornAgainCow: Even a cow is more attached to real life than this dodo. In case you didn't know; she was once an escort and signed up to a "Talent" service before she entered politics. So, she was kind of a trashy person to begin with. Then the obvious thing people are burning her for, of which you know, except you want to push your brain up your ass, is that this trashy woman always touts piety, righteousness and all those anti-abortion outrage, so why would you fault people for actually classifying her as she should be? Guy, go to sleep. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 8:28pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
IjeBos: Their fake impeachment will always fail. It's the playbook for us to retake the house next year. The republiqan party are just criminals, nothing can save them now. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 8:47pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
Obrigardo: I though this was interesting. One is a private citizen never worked in Govt. The other a US Rep being paid by taxpayers. I bet you can guess which ones Republicans seem upset about. 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:29pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
IjeBos: The hypocrisy is blatantly annoying. Democrats pushed out Al Franken for less, and when Katie hill was exposed, she was forced to resign. The republiqans are a criminal network, so we won't expect much from them. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 10:17pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
IjeBos: Suspension of activity or dormant as you put it does not mean what you initially claimed that the guy was not investigating burisma. What is the.meaning of temporarily? Remember how you were saying the sweet heart deal was not dead that it was just suspended. Well, how far with your spinning? |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:27pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
IjeBos: Liar. Shokin was investigating Burisma before he was fired. Devon Archer confirmed that in his testimony. Shokin had seized the Burisma owner properties..Note Devon Archer was a board member of Burisma together with Hunter Biden, appointed in early or mid 2015. [b] first son’s former business partner Devon Archer confirmed in an interview released Friday. “He was a threat. He ended up seizing assets of Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevsk a house, some cars, a couple properties. And Nikolai actually never went back to Ukraine after Shokin seized all of his assets,” Archer told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “It certainly wasn’t made clear to us at the board level… that [getting Shokin fired] was a favor to be done,” Archer said. Carlson pressed, “Joe Biden knew that his son was on the board of this company that was being hassled by the prosecutor whose firing he was calling for —” “Right,” Archer said. Archer testified that Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma Holdings added Hunter Biden to its board because of the Biden “brand,” and paid Hunter up to $1 million a year. “Burisma would have gone out of business if ‘the brand’ had not been attached to it,” Archer claimed. Archer testified that Hunter Biden referred to his father Joe as “my guy” and connected him to foreign Within Burisma, Archer said that executives told board members that Shokin was “already taken care of, which he interpreted as meaning his threat was blunted. “That was the narrative that was fed to the board,” Archer said. We were told that his ouster was bad. We don’t want a new prosecutor, Shokin was taken care [/b] At the same time memo by State Department indicated in Dec 2015 that they were satisfied with Ukraine corruption investigations and we're OK with releasing 1B aid. That was days before JB threatened to stop the aid if Shokin was not fired. See how the media lies to you. Here is Shokin interview excerpt with Fox. NYT , factcheck and Wapo as usual tried to prove these as unfounded claims. I do not want to deal in unproven facts, but my firm personal conviction is that, yes, this was the case. They were being bribed,” Shokin told host Brian Kilmeade. “And the fact that Joe Biden gave away $1 billion in US money in exchange for my dismissal, my firing, isn’t that alone a case of corruption?” An FBI informant file released last month recorded claims by Zlochevsky that he was “coerced” into paying Joe and Hunter $5 million each to ward off the probe from Kyiv’s top law enforcement official. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 10:49pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
basilico: Fact check: Below is a clip from the mental midget's own post above. Burisma did not want him fired, because they probably paid him off already. Again, Shokin was corrupt. Which is why US policy was to get rid of him. Getting rid if him would have gotten Burisma a new prosecutor and a "non-dormant" investigation. Within Burisma, Archer said that executives told board members that Shokin was “already taken care of, which he interpreted as meaning his threat was blunted. “That was the narrative that was fed to the board,” Archer said. We were told that his ouster was bad. We don’t want a new prosecutor, Shokin was taken care Really, how do you function in real life? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 10:59pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
bemeruca: You've reached the point of the argument when you've lost, you know you're wrong and start playing semantics. The investigation was dormant because he was most likely bribed. So, he was NOT investigating Burisma As I said, Biden was following Obama State Department policy which he was briefed on before his trip. Everyone believed Shokin was corrupt and wanted him gone for the best interest of the US and Ukriane. Biden was sent to deliver that message. The message/policy of the Obama State Department. So unless you have Hunter paying Obama and all the State department employees as well, your conspiracy is stupid. End of Story. Again, below is a clip of Biden's briefing from the Obama State Department. The briefing was released during the Trump impeachment as this whole thing was gone over in detail. Republicans are trying to rewrite history AGAIN aided by imbeciles like you. 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:12pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
IjeBos: Really I quoted sworn testimony. Regardless Devon Archer was being paid 83.3k per month same as Hunter. You are a slob. He revealed a lot of Biden corruption in sworn testimony as a Board Member of Burisma, Business partner of Hunter. You believe wapo instead. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 11:17pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
basilico: Idiot, it was your post. Don't cry now. Your whistle blower's testimony which YOU posted destroyed your whole conspiracy theory. He testified he was told getting rid of Shokin was BAD for Burisma. So, how does your theory, Burisma paid Biden to get rid of Shokin, make any sense? Be mad at yourself that you're too stupid to understand the propaganda you post. I'll repost it again for you. Within Burisma, Archer said that executives told board members that Shokin was “already taken care of, which he interpreted as meaning his threat was blunted. “That was the narrative that was fed to the board,” Archer said. We were told that his ouster was bad. We don’t want a new prosecutor, Shokin was taken care |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:29pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
IjeBos: Context is a problem for you. Shokin was taken care of. Threat neutralized. How hard is that? Getting rid of Shokin was bad? Because he was investigating them, for JB the brand to be the one behind the scheme because everyone knew why they got rid of Shokin. Shokin threat was blunted? That would be a threat to clear Burisma of any corruption. It looks bad for them don't you think if they have to bribe JB with 5m to get rid of Shokin Idiot.. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 11:34pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
basilico: Ahh.. I get it. You are really stupid. You don't understand what you posted. Holy Sh*t. Archer is repeating what he was told by Bursima's board before Shokin was fired. The Burisma board did NOT want Shokin to be fired, because they "neutralized him". That's why the investigation was dormant. If they fired Shokin (the corrupt prosecutor), the new prosecutor may reopen the investigation. “It was kind of pounded into our heads” that Shokin’s ouster was not desired, Archer added. You have no idea what you are reading. That people like you exist in life makes me sad. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:36pm On Sep 18, 2023 |
IjeBos: The Burisma owner had his property confiscated, he never went back to Ukraine. That is a dormant investigation? idiot. |
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