HigherEd:
Cast out religion from the Government, cast out religion from Law!

It is interesting to note that the people who fought for the separation of state and religion in the USA and in the west generally where fervent Christians. They knew and understood that while Christians should be involved in Politics it was dangerous for the Church to be enmeshed in politics. They also understood that it would be unfair to evolve a Christiano - centric government structure just to accommodate Atheists and people of other faith. Therefore it is not a coincidence that the "most christian" nations are the most tolerant.


It however seems that the Islamic mind is still very primitive

CodeTemplar:

If not for primitive minds what will make a Muslims claims actions of another man infringes his own beliefs as a Muslim and then go ahead to infringe the law that permitted Muslim by killing that man.

Religion is suppose to be a personal thing but it is shocking how Muslims bring theirs to the fore and override the right of others to it.

HigherEd:
Cast out religion from the Government, cast out religion from Law!

It is interesting to note that the people who fought for the separation of state and religion in the USA and in the west generally where fervent Christians. They knew and understood that while Christians should be involved in Politics it was dangerous for the Church to be enmeshed in politics. They also understood that it would be unfair to evolve a Christiano - centric government structure just to accommodate Atheists and people of other faith. Therefore it is not a coincidence that the "most christian" nations of the earth are the most tolerant.

It however seems that the Islamic mind is still very primitive, they evolve every cheapish and shameful behaviour to express dominance over the other. Every where they exist in great numbers they constitute a threat to every one else. From Saudi, Indonesia, Pakistan, Sudan, Egypt their repressive behaviour is well known to all.

HigherEd:

Islamic religion is never personal. It always wants to assume the status of "State Religion". Of recent a well performing Christian governor in Indonesia was charged to court for making a non-blasphemous reference to Islam. Years ago a Sudanese Muslim convert was arrested for marrying a christian and converting. Sometime ago an atheist was sentenced to death in Saudi Arabia. Evidences abound everywhere that this religion is very toxic and very unmanageable.

But everybody is trying to be politically correct so we don't offend.... They say let's get rid of the terrorists so terrorism can end and leave Islam alone. But they fail to realise that the terrorists are just the first victims of a deadly ideology.

Chances are if we made this kind of discussion in an Islamic country like Sudan and Saudi both our heads would have relocated from its neck.

AtYourCervix:


Fundamentalism is the problem not the religion itself. Fundamentalist Christians in those "Most Christian" nations too are fighting against the liberalism view of others. It just becomes a problem when the fundamentalists far outweigh the liberals/modernists as is the case in Islamic countries and laws are made based on theocratic view. It also begs the question "Who are the true believers? the Fundies or Liberals"

While you claimed those that supported separation of church and state were Christians but you ignored the fact that those that fought against it were also comprised almost entirely of Christians. Look for any issue that divides humans generally and you're bound to find Christians fighting for each side of the divide. Christians were protesting against invasion of Iraq and Christians were also in support. Christians fight against abortion and Christians support it. Christians support Christian communism and Christians also argue against it. Christians fought for slavery and Christians fought for it's abolishment. Christians support Capitalism and Christians support socialism. Even LGBT rights are supported by Christians and argued against by Christians. its almost as if Christians are as human as the heathens too cuz these issues divide humans generally speaking so saying Christians supported separation of church and state is not wrong but its a very biased view stated with an agenda in mind

reducing everything down to the religion itself is not very wise

princfred:
No, islam is the problem . Its always naturally fundamentalist. All 57 islamic states points to that. How many countries call themselves christian countries as a matter of state rule and impose anti muslim policies ?

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TAKING ISLAMIC LAW (JUST THE SAME WAY CRK IS BEING FORCED ON STUDENTS) IS VERY NECESSARY.

KUDOS TO THE SCHOOL MANAGEMENT AND WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA.

AtYourCervix:


I don't know if you're buttressing my point or countering it

Christianity also went through a period of killing who they perceive as outsiders, see: 30 year war amongst other wars fought on religious grounds

Islamic states employ autocratic rule and that's where the problem is, any nation that base their laws on what a particular god wants is always going to cause lots of troubles for people who don't buy into their god idea. If the developed nations adopt autocracy using any religion be it islam/Christianity/ifa worship it would turn bloody quickly too

When Fundamentalists far outweigh the liberals and the modernists it leads inevitably to autocracy and autocracy would leave destructions in its wake no matter the religion involved

I agree islam has its own doctrinal issues but what's happening in Islamic countries goes beyond doctrines

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TAKING ISLAMIC LAW (JUST THE SAME WAY CRK IS BEING FORCED ON STUDENTS) IS VERY NECESSARY.

KUDOS TO THE SCHOOL MANAGEMENT AND WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA.

princfred:
Islam demands respect but never gives to others. They use state power rto push their religion whenever they can. It's the antichrist.
And they will be the first to call others bigots for pointing out their bigotry.

princfred:
Islam cant be reformed because their founder-Mohammed is the cause and source of their nature unlike Christianity where the killings were an aberration to what Christ preached and lived by. Am trying to point out to you the huge opposite difference between the two and for to stop viewing them as similar.

Whats happening in islamic countries is first doctrines than politics of autocracy. Quite opposite to Christian dominated states even before now .

AtYourCervix:


Doctrines when taken to the extreme by the majority (aka fundamentalism) leads to autocracy

I think I've said enough already

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HOW DO YOU RESPECT ME EACH TIME YOU SHOW UP AT MY HOUSE WITHOUT INVITATION, AND TRY TO FORCE YOUR SCRIPTURES DOWN MY THROAT?

HOW DO YOU SHOW RESPECT EVERYTIME YOU START TO CHANT YOUR WORSHIP HYMNS, AND DISTURB COMMUTERS WITH YOUR PRAYERS?

YOU REMEMBER THE TIMES YOU WOKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY 4AM WITH THE NOISE FROM YOUR MEGAPHONE? WHERE WAS THE RESPECT?

WHEN IT COMES TO DISRESPECT AND INVASION OF PRIVACY, MUSLIMS ARE LIKE NURSERY SCHOOL PUPILS COMPARED TO CHRISTIANS, THE CHAMPIONS.

princfred:
So when the loud speakers blaring from mosque is not included?

LOUD SPEAKERS ARE GENERAL. I REMEMBER HOW LAST DECEMBER I HAD TO HIRE SPEAKERS BECAUSE OF THE CHOSEN CHURCH OPPOSITE MY GATE. BRO I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT TYPE OF NOISE IN MY LIFE. IT SOUNDED LIKE EARTHQUAKES AND VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS.

TRIED TO TALK TO THEIR PASTORS BUT THEY SAW ME AS AN ENEMY OF THE WORD OF GOD. I EVEN HAD TO INVOLVE THE LAW BUT NOTHING WORKED UNTIL I HIRED SPEAKERS THE NEXT WEEKEND AND MOUNTED THEM IN FRONT OF MY GATE, FACING THEIR SPEAKERS IN FRONT OF THEIR CHURCH.
YOU KNOW THAT CRAZY GHANAIAN SONG THAT REIGNED AROUND THEN, I MADE CONNECTIONS AND THE SONG WAS ON REPEAT.. FOR JUST ONE DAY. THAT WAS HOW I GOT THEM TO TUNE IT DOWN... LIKE TO THE LOWEST LEVEL, AND NEVER TRIED THAT SHÎT AGAIN.

THEY ONLY INCLUDED NEW PRAYER POINTS WHICH SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE MEANT FOR ME, BUT I'M YET TO "DIE BY FIRE" SO I GUESS IT DIDN'T WORK.

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LOUD SPEAKERS ARE GENERAL. I REMEMBER HOW LAST DECEMBER I HAD TO HIRE SPEAKERS BECAUSE OF THE CHOSEN CHURCH OPPOSITE MY GATE. BRO I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT TYPE OF NOISE IN MY LIFE. IT SOUNDED LIKE EARTHQUAKES AND VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS.

TRIED TO TALK TO THEIR PASTORS BUT THEY SAW ME AS AN ENEMY OF THE WORD OF GOD. I EVEN HAD TO INVOLVE THE LAW BUT NOTHING WORKED UNTIL I HIRED SPEAKERS THE NEXT WEEKEND AND MOUNTED THEM IN FRONT OF MY GATE, FACING THEIR SPEAKERS IN FRONT OF THEIR CHURCH.
YOU KNOW THAT CRAZY GHANAIAN SONG THAT REIGNED AROUND THEN, I MADE CONNECTIONS AND THE SONG WAS ON REPEAT.. FOR JUST ONE DAY. THAT WAS HOW I GOT THEM TO TUNE IT DOWN... LIKE TO THE LOWEST LEVEL, AND NEVER TRIED THAT SHÎT AGAIN.

THEY ONLY INCLUDED NEW PRAYER POINTS WHICH SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE MEANT FOR ME, BUT I'M YET TO "DIE BY FIRE" SO I GUESS IT DIDN'T WORK.

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LOUD SPEAKERS ARE GENERAL. I REMEMBER HOW LAST DECEMBER I HAD TO HIRE SPEAKERS BECAUSE OF THE CHOSEN CHURCH OPPOSITE MY GATE. BRO I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT TYPE OF NOISE IN MY LIFE. IT SOUNDED LIKE EARTHQUAKES AND VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS.

TRIED TO TALK TO THEIR PASTORS BUT THEY SAW ME AS AN ENEMY OF THE WORD OF GOD. I EVEN HAD TO INVOLVE THE LAW BUT NOTHING WORKED UNTIL I HIRED SPEAKERS THE NEXT WEEKEND AND MOUNTED THEM IN FRONT OF MY GATE, FACING THEIR SPEAKERS IN FRONT OF THEIR CHURCH.
YOU KNOW THAT CRAZY GHANAIAN SONG THAT REIGNED AROUND THEN, I MADE CONNECTIONS AND THE SONG WAS ON REPEAT.. FOR JUST ONE DAY. THAT WAS HOW I GOT THEM TO TUNE IT DOWN... LIKE TO THE LOWEST LEVEL, AND NEVER TRIED THAT SHÎT AGAIN.

THEY ONLY INCLUDED NEW PRAYER POINTS WHICH SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE MEANT FOR ME, BUT I'M YET TO "DIE BY FIRE" SO I GUESS IT DIDN'T WORK.

princfred:
Now,what have you done about the even loud speaker of mosque in early morning? Try that same tactics and see the difference between Christians and Muslims if you come out alive. You will see that general is not "general"

THERE'S NO MOSQUE IN THIS AREA. THE LAST ONE WAS BURNT IN 2011.

I'D RATHER LIVE 1 CENTIMETER AWAY FROM THE MOSQUE SPEAKERS THAN 1 KILOMETER AWAY FROM THAT CHURCH I TALKED ABOUT.

DEATH IS BETTER THAN ENDURING SUCH HORRENDOUS SERMONS.

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THERE'S NO MOSQUE IN THIS AREA. THE LAST ONE WAS BURNT IN 2011.

I'D RATHER LIVE 1 CENTIMETER AWAY FROM THE MOSQUE SPEAKERS THAN 1 KILOMETER AWAY FROM THAT CHURCH I TALKED ABOUT.

DEATH IS BETTER THAN ENDURING SUCH HORRENDOUS SERMONS.

princfred:
So will someone living far away from the church say. Now imagine living 1 centimeter to it coupled with the fear that trying to apply your tactics to stop can easily lead to your death.

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LOUD SPEAKERS ARE GENERAL. I REMEMBER HOW LAST DECEMBER I HAD TO HIRE SPEAKERS BECAUSE OF THE CHOSEN CHURCH OPPOSITE MY GATE. BRO I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT TYPE OF NOISE IN MY LIFE. IT SOUNDED LIKE EARTHQUAKES AND VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS.

TRIED TO TALK TO THEIR PASTORS BUT THEY SAW ME AS AN ENEMY OF THE WORD OF GOD. I EVEN HAD TO INVOLVE THE LAW BUT NOTHING WORKED UNTIL I HIRED SPEAKERS THE NEXT WEEKEND AND MOUNTED THEM IN FRONT OF MY GATE, FACING THEIR SPEAKERS IN FRONT OF THEIR CHURCH.
YOU KNOW THAT CRAZY GHANAIAN SONG THAT REIGNED AROUND THEN, I MADE CONNECTIONS AND THE SONG WAS ON REPEAT.. FOR JUST ONE DAY. THAT WAS HOW I GOT THEM TO TUNE IT DOWN... LIKE TO THE LOWEST LEVEL, AND NEVER TRIED THAT SHÎT AGAIN.

THEY ONLY INCLUDED NEW PRAYER POINTS WHICH SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE MEANT FOR ME, BUT I'M YET TO "DIE BY FIRE" SO I GUESS IT DIDN'T WORK.

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WHAT MY LAST POST MEANT...

THE NOISE FROM SPEAKER A (1KM AWAY) IS 10X WORSE THAN THE ONE FROM SPEAKER B (1CM CLOSE).

PLUS I DON'T UNDERSTAND ARABIC SO.. IT'S A LITTLE BIT PLEASANT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOISE. WHILE THE OTHER ORGANIZATION KEEPS SPITTING WORSE THINGS AT THE HIGHEST UNBEARABLE FREQUENCY.

princfred:

Talking about privacy invasion, what can be more "privacy invasive" than the bombs flying off in mosques from/ by muslims or the random killings over mundane things? I guess that will be the icing on the cake for you or whoever decides to live near a mosque. .
Now, you prefer noise to a language you can comprehend. Quite interesting

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BOMBINGS ARE ACTS OF TERRORISM.
THERE ARE CHRISTIANS IN THE BH SQUAD, AND ALSO IN OTHER SECTS.

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BOMBINGS ARE ACTS OF TERRORISM.
THERE ARE CHRISTIANS IN THE BH SQUAD, AND ALSO IN OTHER SECTS.

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BOMBINGS ARE ACTS OF TERRORISM.
THERE ARE CHRISTIANS IN THE BH SQUAD, AND ALSO IN OTHER SECTS.

princfred:
CHRISTIANS IN THE BH SQUAD? Do you have charcoal for brains or are you a muslim? Do you even know what BH means? Tell me secretly do you sniff dung? I pledge i want tell anyone.