orisa37:
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You are not an atheist if you can say Amen.

Lol! I wonder what I'd become if I said, "Jesus Christ Holy Lord!" Muttley's comments deserve that much.

budaatum:

Lol! I wonder what I'd become if I said, "Jesus Christ Holy Lord!" Muttley's comments deserve that much.

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If you sincerely call Jesus Christ,you 'll see Him before midnight.

orisa37:
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If you sincerely call Jesus Christ,you 'll see Him before midnight.

Sincerely, you say. Guess that would be your excuse when I don't see him before midnight.

You show me anyone who has "seen Jesus.

orisa37:
Lord help us.

budaatum:
Even I, an atheist, have no choice but to say, Amen!

"I first thought Muttley posted it, but he doesn't write so clearly
so I searched and found its source. Next time do include links please.
People get vilified on here for plagiarism"
- budaatum ©

"Just so it's said, your above in italics ("was willing but persuaded''), is an example of your unclearlessness."
- budaatum ©

Following the herd are we now,
plus who is caught not writing so clearly now?
You should have made it so clear, which of the Lords you're soliciting help from

orisa37:
You are not an atheist if you can say Amen.

Aint that incredible

delishpot:
You sneaky liar!

"You sure have a demon in you. No contesting it. A demon is in you." - check
"The devil's agents ..." - check
"Mr eyes wide shut" - check
"You sneaky liar!" - check
I wonder what next I should expect to read

delishpot:
At first you started by making people believe you just think the church should be open to saints and sinners alike.

Correction, sister.
I know the church should be open to saints and sinners alike.
I know the church, should be open all
and open all without unjust or prejudicial treatment, based especially on the grounds of human sexual orientation

delishpot:
I knew that your reasoning was far beyond that.

All you've shown so far, is knowing halves of every matter, and getting them confused with the other halves.

delishpot:
I knew you were arguing that Sodomy was right and the church needs to embrace it as part of life.

I dont do arguing/arguments.
It's you who is continually bent on arguing. Exchanging your ignorance(s) on here

An example of one, out of your many ignorances, is not knowing that
sodomy, as per bible, is an offense against natural sexual orientation that is connected with idolatrous practices

delishpot:
Only the blind ones agreed with you because they did not know where you were coming from.
Now you have made it clear, you are fighting for sodomy to be accepted and not judged a sin.

It's you that's fighting tooth and nail.
You're make strenuous efforts, throwing everything you can lay your hands on, except for the kitchen sink yet, at me.
You arent used to lifting heavy stuff anyway, so I am not surprised the kitchen sink, is still where it is

I am so sorry to burst your sheltered in bubble,
adult consensual, faithful, committed, honest, lasting a lifetime, meaningful relationship between two people of the same sex
is accepted and isnt as far as God is concerned, seen as a sin

delishpot:
Far be it from me that I agree with you.
LOL, there is nothing hidden or meant to be explained in the bible on only one condition.

Except you changed your moniker by deed poll to budaatum, I would understand why you are jumping on to an invite not extended to you.
If you are Mrs budaatum, that would be understandable, but you arent
I've told you severally, that you arent yet worthy enough to share the info with
and that you can wallow in your ignorances

delishpot:
The Bible is meant to be pondered upon and its knowledge shared freely anytime a man has the opportunity to do so

Until you're ready, I reserve the right to ponder upon and share the knowledge with you.

delishpot:
I showed everyone my stance against your theory using the exact texts, chapters and verses as found in the holly bible.
Open to debate about them and receiving knowledge from those who can discuss more on them.

"Like as if I care more or less, if you engage, or not engage, again, in the thread.
You haven't the stamina to discuss.

Be careful, what you wish for sister.
You go wound ooo, as I will pound you left right and centre, top, bottom and under

You'll come out and fall apart, like a cheap suit, that has its loose thread yanked and pulled."
- Muttleylaff on thread's Page 2 ©

Do you remember the above inverted commas?
Let's give this, a try then sister.
Let's go there

1/ What was the sin(s) specifically that the city of Sodom and Gomorrah were guilty of
2/ What does, sodomites, in the bible OT and NT original text mean and/or refers to?

delishpot:
No seeing in camera, no NDA to sign.
You on the other hand, you are a merchant of souls.
What is so secret that the hearer needs to sign an NDA ( Contract or Initiation) before to learn the knowledge you want to provide?

First and foremost, correctively, I am a merchant of souls, your inclusive, for the Most High God, the I AM that I AM, Lord of Hosts.

Back to in-camera etcetera, you werent invited in for the in-camera+its condition,
and not, for a very good reason, which you keep confirming the reason why not, is true

I suppose, you know what the details of the condition(s) to budaatum was going to be. Right?

delishpot:
Only occults work that way.

Is this from a first hand experience or hearsay

delishpot:
Many so called churches burying heads and hands at the alters also know how to quote and twist the bible.

You're so desperate and look so pathetic settling to scooping up dregs of the barrel and making no sense or point with it

delishpot:
You ain't fooling no one no more.
Stop quoting me without answers.

The harder you look, the less you see anyway

delishpot:
I overcome you by the blood of the lamb Jesus Christ.

I bet you're the sort that's scared of their shadow
Quit being a scaredy-cat, I won't and don't bite!

MuttleyLaff:
"You sure have a demon in you. No contesting it. A demon is in you." - check
"The devil's agents ..." - check
"Mr eyes wide shut" - check
"You sneaky liar!" - check
I wonder what next I should expect to read

Correction, sister.
I know the church should be open to saints and sinners alike.
I know the church, should be open all
and open all without unjust or prejudicial treatment, based especially on the grounds of human sexual orientation

All you've shown so far, is knowing halves of every matter, and getting them confused with the other halves.

I dont do arguing/arguments.
It's you who is continually bent on arguing. Exchanging your ignorance(s) on here

An example of one, out of your many ignorances, is not knowing that
sodomy, as per bible, is an offense against natural sexual orientation that is connected with idolatrous practices

It's you that's fighting tooth and nail.
You're make strenuous efforts, throwing everything you can lay your hands on, except for the kitchen sink yet, at me.
You arent used to lifting heavy stuff anyway, so I am not surprised the kitchen sink, is still where it is

I am so sorry to burst your sheltered in bubble,
adult consensual, faithful, committed, honest, lasting a lifetime, meaningful relationship between two people of the same sex
is accepted and isnt as far as God is concerned, seen as a sin

Except you changed your moniker by deed poll to budaatum, I would understand why you are jumping on to an invite not extended to you.
If you are Mrs budaatum, that would be understandable, but you arent
I've told you severally, that you arent yet worthy enough to share the info with
and that you can wallow in your ignorances

Until you're ready, I reserve the right to ponder upon and share the knowledge with you.

"Like as if I care more or less, if you engage, or not engage, again, in the thread.
You haven't the stamina to discuss.

Be careful, what you wish for sister.
You go wound ooo, as I will pound you left right and centre, top, bottom and under

You'll come out and fall apart, like a cheap suit, that has its loose thread yanked and pulled."
- Muttleylaff on thread's Page 2 ©

Do you remember the above inverted commas?
Let's give this, a try then sister.
Let's go there

1/ What was the sin(s) specifically that the city of Sodom and Gomorrah were guilty of
2/ What does, sodomites, in the bible OT and NT original text mean and/or refers to?

First and foremost, correctively, I am a merchant of souls, your inclusive, for the Most High God, the I AM that I AM, Lord of Hosts.

Back to in-camera etcetera, you werent invited in for the in-camera+its condition,
and not, for a very good reason, which you keep confirming the reason why not, is true

I suppose, you know what the details of the condition(s) to budaatum was going to be. Right?

Is this from a first hand experience or hearsay

You're so desperate and look so pathetic settling to scooping up dregs of the barrel and making no sense or point with it

The harder you look, the less you see anyway

I bet you're the sort that's scared of their shadow
Quit being a scaredy-cat, I won't and don't bite!

I have said my piece and that is all that matters to me.

delishpot:
I have said my piece and that is all that matters to me.

1/ What was the sin(s) specifically that the city of Sodom and Gomorrah were guilty of
2/ What does, sodomites, in the bible OT and NT original text mean and/or refers to?

Those two questions were too hot for you to handle
I know you have to protect that delicate skin of yours from the heat
Good idea, staying out of the kitchen, a sense of self-preservation cautioned you not to stick around

MuttleyLaff:
1/ What was the sin(s) specifically that the city of Sodom and Gomorrah were guilty of
2/ What does, sodomites, in the bible OT and NT original text mean and/or refers to?

Those two questions were too hot for you to handle
I know you have to protect that delicate skin of yours from the heat
Good idea, staying out of the kitchen, a sense of self-preservation cautioned you not to stick around

budaatum:

Sincerely, you say. Guess that would be your excuse when I don't see him before midnight.

You show me anyone who has "seen Jesus.

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I see Christ whenever I value, not want, to see Him. I see Him not only in Trinity but sometimes in Thirtinity. He is a good God. We are watching Him handle this Buhari Autocracy Powerfully. God will disgrace Satan soon.

delishpot:

We wouldnt have had this misunderstanding
if the church had stuck to the correct definition of the words "sodomites"; "Malakos" and "Arsenokoites"
and be faithful to the original use and/or meanings of the words, as was done in the OT and NT original texts plus early christian writings

I've heard that laughing can be contagious. I think it's true bwahahaha ha

budaatum:
Sincerely, you say.
Guess that would be your excuse when I don't see him before midnight.

You show me anyone who has "seen Jesus.

You can see Jesus today before midnight.
Look out your window right now,
or go outside your house, this moment, you'll see Jesus

orisa37:
I see Christ whenever I value, not want, to see Him.
I see Him not only in Trinity but sometimes in Thirtinity.
He is a good God. We are watching Him handle this Buhari Autocracy Powerfully. God will disgrace Satan soon.

I like the emboldened very much
considering God is X-nity or ∞-nity
and that's why He told Moses, say: I AM that I AM, or I SHALL BE THAT I SHALL BE, sent you,
literally meaning I AM fill in the blanks sent you.

orisa37:
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I see Christ whenever I value, not want, to see Him. I see Him not only in Trinity but sometimes in Thirtinity. He is a good God. We are watching Him handle this Buhari Autocracy Powerfully. God will disgrace Satan soon.

I see nothing of the sort! What I hope is that you all go and register to vote for whomever you want to be the President. It's the people who elect the President, and not Gods!

That said, you all are very lucky you voted Buhari and not give PDP the freedom to continue to loot the nation! If you had, you'd have by now be screaming much louder than you are now.

MuttleyLaff:
You can see Jesus today before midnight.
Look out your window right now,
or go outside your house, this moment, you'll see Jesus.

Guess he could be the girl with the extra short skirt I see outside my window. I wonder if the daughter she's playing with is the Holy Spirit.

Pity. I know you're much wiser than you're showing lately.

Oh, hold on. Here comes her father. I wonder if that's God himself.

budaatum:
Guess he could be the girl with the extra short skirt I see outside my window.

I havent the full details, so possibly could be.
Dang, fast learner, who would have thought.
You're learning pretty fast
Beginner's luck?

budaatum:
I wonder if the daughter she's playing with is the Holy Spirit.

Now you're getting ahead of yourself with a daft wisecrack like this

budaatum:
Pity. I know you're much wiser than you're showing lately

Now, you want to shift the blame on me for your being slow on the uptake lately

budaatum:
Oh, hold on. Here comes her father. I wondered r if that's God himself.

Comedy isnt your calling
You're trying too hard to be funny and you're remotely too far away not.

Yes. You're right. God allowed Nigerians to choose Buhari to teach us the Leason we are now learning. And if we don't learn well, The Fulanis are anxiously waiting to enslave the likes of Daniels, Shadracks, Mechaks and Abednegoes of Nigeria.
The ways of God is not that of Man. The same God that sent Moses to Pharaoh hardened the Heart of Pharaoh against Moses. And He is deafening Buhari and his 46 Hench-Senators and Cabals against Restructuring. Schizophrenia is The Mark of every Dictator. Only God can change him to Restructure. And with Prayers, nothing is imposible.
So Oga Atheist please shut up.

MuttleyLaff:
You can see Jesus today before midnight.
Look out your window right now,
or go outside your house, this moment, you'll see Jesus

I like the emboldened very much
considering God is X-nity or ∞-nity
and that's why He told Moses, say: I AM that I AM, or I SHALL BE THAT I SHALL BE, sent you,
literally meaning I AM fill in the blanks sent you.

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Yes, you're right. God is The Content of every Capacity in us, on Earth, in Valleys, on MountainTops and in Heaven. This is more than Science and Arts. This is Pneumatology!!!

budaatum:

I think only a Catholic would make such a claim, as they were one of the earliest! (Are you Catholic?)

All the other churches would like to claim the same authority, but would have to explain their defiance of the Popes authority.

What do you mean by one of the earliest? Every other denomination I know came out of it. And yes, you're right, I'm Catholic.

9inches:
What do you mean by one of the earliest? Every other denomination I know came out of it. And yes, you're right, I'm Catholic.

They say, "History is written by the conqueror", and that is what you have, history according to the Catholic Church. They were many Churches before the Catholic Church consolidation. Wiki has some good writing on the topic.

But I was referring to those in existence now, which mostly do, as you say, "came out of the Catholic Church". Every Church claims authority from God, and subjectively interpret scripture.

One could claim there permission to do so was established by Christ. The 'Church' in his day could be said to be the High Priest and synagogue of his time, who's authority was 'given by God'. Jesus however challenged their authority by claiming his came from God too. I guess the fact that he had studied a different doctrine in Egypt had something to do with it.

orisa37:
Yes. You're right. God allowed Nigerians to choose Buhari to teach us the Leason we are now learning. And if we don't learn well, The Fulanis are anxiously waiting to enslave the likes of Daniels, Shadracks, Mechaks and Abednegoes of Nigeria.
The ways of God is not that of Man. The same God that sent Moses to Pharaoh hardened the Heart of Pharaoh against Moses. And He is deafening Buhari and his 46 Hench-Senators and Cabals against Restructuring. Schizophrenia is The Mark of every Dictator. Only God can change him to Restructure. And with Prayers, nothing is imposible.
So Oga Atheist please shut up.

The lessons you need to learn are, in times of plenty (crude oil at $150 a barrel), you should save up because famine might follow. The second is manners, and the dishardening of your own heart.

Please don't leave that last one to God to restructure you. With a little effort on your own part, your manners can improve. It is not impossible.

budaatum:

They say, "History is written by the conqueror", and that is what you have, history according to the Catholic Church. They were many Churches before the Catholic Church consolidation. Wiki has some good writing on the topic.

But I was referring to those in existence now, which mostly do, as you say, "came out of the Catholic Church". Every Church claims authority from God, and subjectively interpret scripture.

One could claim there permission to do so was established by Christ. The 'Church' in his day could be said to be the High Priest and synagogue of his time, who's authority was 'given by God'. Jesus however challenged their authority by claiming his came from God too. I guess the fact that he had studied a different doctrine in Egypt had something to do with it.

The apostles were the first Christians and their version of Christianity is what the Catholic Church teaches. When saying the Creed, we say "I believe in one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church...." The name Catholic is used to differentiate between us and the other sects. Apart from that, it's simply the Christian Church or the Church of the Apostles.

budaatum:

The lessons you need to learn are, in times of plenty (crude oil at $150 a barrel), you should save up because famine might follow. The second is manners, and the dishardening of your own heart.

Please don't leave that last one to God to restructure you. With a little effort on your own part, your manners can improve. It is not impossible.

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I am of The Brand of Jesus Christ to act, interact and move in Faith, Hope, Peace and Love in others like Him. What other manners are you talking about?

budaatum:

The lessons you need to learn are, in times of plenty (crude oil at $150 a barrel), you should save up because famine might follow. The second is manners, and the dishardening of your own heart.

Please don't leave that last one to God to restructure you. With a little effort on your own part, your manners can improve. It is not impossible.

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I know you haven't seen the pictures of Children slaughtered like chickens in Plateau. Very sickening. If This Government doesn't restructure before December this year, Buhari doesn't need to campaign to win. And The Fulanis will come back to teach Tinubu and Akande some bitter lessons in Fulani/Arabian Politics. The people are really mad, uncivilised and illiterate.

9inches:

The apostles were the first Christians and their version of Christianity is what the Catholic Church teaches. When saying the Creed, we say "I believe in one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church...." The name Catholic is used to differentiate between us and the other sects. Apart from that, it's simply the Christian Church or the Church of the Apostles.

The Church of England's creed, which is Anglican reads as follows:
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints

The more detailed Nicene Creed, also read in the Anglican Church of England, reads as follows

We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.

They don't say "catholic" to "differentiate between us and the other sects" but to show the opposite, joint communion.

Every church claims to teach the version of the early Apostles. It also seems every church wants to claim their's is more godly than anyone elses.

orisa37:
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I know you haven't seen the pictures of Children slaughtered like chickens in Plateau. Very sickening. If This Government doesn't restructure before December this year, Buhari doesn't need to campaign to win. And The Fulanis will come back to teach Tinubu and Akande some bitter lessons in Fulani/Arabian Politics. The people are really mad, uncivilised and illiterate.

I hope you've began manner lessons. I find it difficult to converse with foul mouthed people. They come across as "uncivilised and illiterate" to me.

So, how is this government responsible for the atrocities of the Fulanis? Are you aware that those who suffer most from these atrocities are the Hausas in the North? Have you wondered why they have not come down to the South of Nigeria to blow people up?

orisa37:
Yes. You're right.
God allowed Nigerians to choose Buhari to teach us the Leason we are now learning.
And if we don't learn well, The Fulanis are anxiously waiting to enslave the likes of Daniels, Shadracks, Mechaks and Abednegoes of Nigeria.
The ways of God is not that of Man. The same God that sent Moses to Pharaoh hardened the Heart of Pharaoh against Moses.
And He is deafening Buhari and his 46 Hench-Senators and Cabals against Restructuring.
Schizophrenia is The Mark of every Dictator.
Only God can change him to Restructure. And with Prayers, nothing is imposible.
So Oga Atheist please shut up.

budaatum:
The lessons you need to learn are,
in times of plenty (crude oil at $150 a barrel), you should save up because famine might follow.
The second is manners, and the dishardening of your own heart.

Please don't leave that last one to God to restructure you.
With a little effort on your own part, your manners can improve. It is not impossible.

orisa37:
I am of The Brand of Jesus Christ to act, interact and move in Faith, Hope, Peace and Love in others like Him.
What other manners are you talking about?

budaatum:
I hope you've began manner lessons.
I find it difficult to converse with foul mouthed people.
They come across as "uncivilised and illiterate" to me.

So, how is this government responsible for the atrocities of the Fulanis?
Are you aware that those who suffer most from these atrocities are the Hausas in the North?
Have you wondered why they have not come down to the South of Nigeria to blow people up?

Budaatum doesnt like to be told to zip up his cake hole

MuttleyLaff:

Budaatum doesnt like to be told to zip up his cake hole

buda doesn't mind actually, though buda does wonder whom you think buda is, or more importantly, whom you think you are to assume to tell buda what to do. Are you going to remove buda's posting rights, or throw buda in hell perhaps?

What buda minds is buda conversing with people who resort to insults. They show they haven't got much of intelligence, and buda insults buda by responding to such people.

MuttleyLaff:

literally meaning I AM fill in the blanks sent you.

Whatever one says God is is what God is? Gods made up by the individual?

Is that why there's as many Gods as humans have bothered to create?

budaatum:
So, how is this government responsible for the atrocities of the Fulanis?

"Nigeria we hail thee.
Now, why cant he NAME those that defrauded him?
OBJ went for 3rd term bid, who helped him and wanted him to go for third term?
Abdulsalam was advised not to hand over, who advised him not to hand over?
IBB said if he'd declared MKO winner of June 12, "they" will kill him etc? who are the "they",
GEJ said he was advised and he underrated BH thinking it was those against his Govt, who advised him? ....

So many unknowns and these same people are in every Govt.
Until we start revealing these names and shame the selfish and corrupt folks in our Govt, we will go no-where."
- Organs © 2018

I laugh at the emboldened in Fulani

budaatum:
Are you aware that those who suffer most from these atrocities are the Hausas in the North?
Have you wondered why they have not come down to the South of Nigeria to blow people up?

They would have bitten more than they can chew, if they do
because pesin wey wan burn, go jam pesin wey ready to barbecue am bin dat
You know that everybodi fẹ ya, except for the Fulani, in whose interest Naija has to be together and whole

I am pleased to see someone else, has seen through the Fulani

Naija's Hausa+Fulani population is 29M, about just under 4M, out of that, are Fulani
Orisa37, do you know that SLS is Fulani

budaatum:
buda doesn't mind actually, though buda does wonder whom you think buda is, or more importantly, whom you think you are to assume to tell buda what to do. Are you going to remove buda's posting rights, or throw buda in hell perhaps?

What buda minds is buda conversing with people who resort to insults.
They show they haven't got much of intelligence, and buda insults buda by responding to such people.

Put some humour in your life fam. It's good for the skin
Orisa37 was only teasing you nau

budaatum:
Whatever one says God is is what God is?
Gods made up by the individual?

Is that why there's as many Gods as humans have bothered to create?

No ooooo bud. Facepalm.
God is not made up by the individual bud.
Also there arent many Gods, as there is only one God

There are many gods, and this fact and truth, God unashamedly admits and/or acknowledges

We know that God created humans in His image and likeness
and going on about your "Is that why there's as many Gods as humans have bothered to create" remark

Well, isnt it ironic, that ever since God took the bull by the horn, to create human beings in His image and likeness,
human beings too have had the courage to want to return the favour!

So, yes, there are as many gods as humans have bothered to create and/or invent
and it stems from not understanding that famous expressive phrase

MuttleyLaff:

Put some humour in your life fam. It's good for the skin
Orisa37 was only teasing you nau

I'm not some kid you do humour with by slinging insults!

And please, could you consider minding your own skin instead of licking others? You got me wrong so I'd assume you got orisa wrong too.

I'm not ignoring the other stuff you wrote, just can't get my head around it.

budaatum:
I'm not some kid you do humour with by slinging insults!

Geriatric is still a few years more away though too

You're very quick to take offence today.
What happened bud? Kilode fam, ki lo shele padi mi, Ebi mi wetin harpon?.

We all grown, and no ones deliberately slung any insult at you here
If any had done, then reproduce it here, word for word, verbatim here
Copy and paste the insult slung at you here, and the perpetrator who did it
I can bet my bottom dollar, it's not how you're taking it
Apologies can be tendered, if you still feel aggrieved

budaatum:
And please, could you consider minding your own skin instead of licking others?
You got me wrong so I'd assume you got orisa wrong too.

If you say, I got you wrong and orisa wrong, who am I to argue with that.
I'll just go in my little corner, go mind my own skin, licking it, instead of licking others.
Thanks for the timely advice

budaatum:
I'm not ignoring the other stuff you wrote, just can't get my head around it.

I know.
Those, that know the other stuff I wrote, know.

MuttleyLaff:
Geriatric is still a few year more away too

You're very quick to take offence today.
What happened bud? Kilode, ki lo shele padi mi?.

You are spot on with the "quick to take offense", but wrong with the "today". We might be online, and not face to face, but manners still don't cost much. Still, people can be asses if they wish to. I however have regard for myself and don't have to engage with one. And age has nothing to do with it. I am 12, but that don't mean you get to insult me and get my time.

budaatum:
You are spot on with the "quick to take offense", but wrong with the "today".
We might be online, and not face to face, but manners still don't cost much.
Still, people can be asses if they wish to.
I however have regard for myself and don't have to engage with one.
And age has nothing to do with it. I am 12,
but that don't mean you get to insult me and get my time.

Strange, a Brit, changing my written "offence" to "offense"

We all grown, and no ones deliberately slung any insult at you on here or elsewhere

I too have regard for myself and high regard for you
so if any had done, then reproduce it here, word for word, verbatim here or elsewhere
Copy and paste the insult slung at you here, and the perpetrator who did it
I can bet my bottom dollar, it's not how you're taking it
Apologies can be sincerely tendered, if you still feel aggrieved