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Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by mencer(m): 8:38am On Jul 02, 2018
federal government takes Nigerians as slaves, the slave masters rules from Abuja.
we are supposed to have independent regions in Nigeria
and that was what the British left in 1960 until the military boys took over changed the system
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Hector09(m): 8:46am On Jul 02, 2018
blackaxe78:



Its disappointing that at this age, "Our land" mentality still thrives among lots. If you objecting to ranching, Do you have a better solution that could be beneficial to all?

No one is taking away your land, clauses might be introduced in the agreement that gives the state to revoke the lease or sale. Lets try to think forward please and remove ethno-religious sentiments.

Ranching is the way to go. If you have something better, Please share.
am not against ranching, but buhari is acting like a authoritarian, he should nt force anyone to gv out their land, if my memory serves me right there are abt 19 northern state and i gues it we be ok for ranching

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Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Jimmy231: 8:49am On Jul 02, 2018
Ever8054:
for the first time in the history of this country, a yoloba group had reason like huma.......but who knows, tomorrow them fjit change there talk....e no dey hard them...
ode leleyi
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by thunderbabs: 8:52am On Jul 02, 2018
Those who make up the FG are senseless.
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Walexybobo(m): 9:00am On Jul 02, 2018
Well said.
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Nobody: 9:11am On Jul 02, 2018
blackaxe78:


Why do you like peddling lies?
Go sit under a bush oga
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by buchilino(m): 9:41am On Jul 02, 2018
Hector09:
No sane state we give out their land for ranching except kogi state

R U INDIRECTLY SAYING DAT KOGI PPLE R INSANE
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Loanguyng: 9:52am On Jul 02, 2018
If you need me...feel free to give me a call!
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Nobody: 9:58am On Jul 02, 2018
Postanalyser:

Please who refined you? The person failed to teach you guys personal and environmental hygiene. If how you people are is what "refine" entails, then Europeans and igbos are crude.

How could igbos who are cannibals be refined? That's the epitome of barbarism.

Seems you just renew your stupidity license you frustrated osu.

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Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Nobody: 10:02am On Jul 02, 2018
blackaxe78:



Its disappointing that at this age, "Our land" mentality still thrives among lots. If you objecting to ranching, Do you have a better solution that could be beneficial to all?

No one is taking away your land, clauses might be introduced in the agreement that gives the state to revoke the lease or sale. Lets try to think forward please and remove ethno-religious sentiments.

Ranching is the way to go. If you have something better, Please share.

No one is opposing ranching. Ranching should be restricted to the core north. We don't want fulanis in Yoruba land. They are evil. Just build your ranches in your fulani states that's all.

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Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by PVision2020(m): 10:02am On Jul 02, 2018
blackaxe78:



Its disappointing that at this age, "Our land" mentality still thrives among lots. If you objecting to ranching, Do you have a better solution that could be beneficial to all?

No one is taking away your land, clauses might be introduced in the agreement that gives the state to revoke the lease or sale. Lets try to think forward please and remove ethno-religious sentiments.

Ranching is the way to go. If you have something better, Please share.
Nothing stops you from converting all the land in the NE and NW to grazing reserves. All we are saying is that not an inch of Yoruba land will be handed over to the Fulani in the name of cattle ranching. The one you took treacherously from afonja in Ilorin is enough.

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Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Nobody: 10:06am On Jul 02, 2018
PrecisionFx:



And if the fulani presidents builds the ranches in Yoruba land, WETIN UNA GO DO
Why do you fools rear your ugly heads when important matters are being discussed? He could take your iboland just as he sent python to kill you fools he dare not try it with Yoruba.
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by theemy(m): 10:07am On Jul 02, 2018
blackaxe78:



Its disappointing that at this age, "Our land" mentality still thrives among lots. If you objecting to ranching, Do you have a better solution that could be beneficial to all?

No one is taking away your land, clauses might be introduced in the agreement that gives the state to revoke the lease or sale. Lets try to think forward please and remove ethno-religious sentiments.

Ranching is the way to go. If you have something better, Please share.
Nobody is against ranching but the location for all we care they could turn the whole north into ranches no one will bloody care
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Postanalyser: 10:15am On Jul 02, 2018
schoolboij:


How could igbos who are cannibals be refined? That's the epitome of barbarism.

Seems you just renew your stupidity license you frustrated osu.
Does your comment exempt you from the rest of the dirty scavengers roaming about in the dirty republic of oduduwa? How on earth can someone separate you from a vulture since both of you are after the human skull.sophisticated mor.on

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Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by blackaxe78: 10:18am On Jul 02, 2018
veeshock:

Go sit under a bush oga

Sigh...
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Nobody: 10:19am On Jul 02, 2018
Postanalyser:

Does your comment exempt you from the rest of the dirty scavengers roaming about in the dirty republic of oduduwa? How on earth can someone separate you from a vulture since both of you are after the human skull.sophisticated mor.on

Given too much attention to a dirty cannibal who just ate akpu with human skull. Now swerve.

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Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Postanalyser: 10:25am On Jul 02, 2018
schoolboij:


Given too much attention to a dirty cannibal who just ate akpu with human skull. Now swerve.

No..i actually ate ewedu hydraulic soap with a cone-headed skull imported all the way from Ogun state.scavenger, i hope you still have a skull left in your family. Ewu ohia.

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Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by blackaxe78: 10:40am On Jul 02, 2018
theemy:

Nobody is against ranching but the location for all we care they could turn the whole north into ranches no one will bloody care

You definitely did not think about the subject matter cos you filled with hate. Cos outside that, you would have logically reasoned
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by blackaxe78: 10:42am On Jul 02, 2018
PVision2020:

Nothing stops you from converting all the land in the NE and NW to grazing reserves. All we are saying is that not an inch of Yoruba land will be handed over to the Fulani in the name of cattle ranching. The one you took treacherously from afonja in Ilorin is enough.

And how do the products get to other parts of the country on daily basis. Please think and proffer logical solutions. There are more cows than human in New Zealand and its well with them. Stop using hate to hinder your thinking and progressiveness
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by blackaxe78: 10:43am On Jul 02, 2018
schoolboij:


No one is opposing ranching. Ranching should be restricted to the core north. We don't want fulanis in Yoruba land. They are evil. Just build your ranches in your fulani states that's all.


And you did want to count yourself as one of the future leaders of tomorrow?

Read what you composed and try to be truthful to yourself if you had made any sense.
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by blackaxe78: 10:47am On Jul 02, 2018
Hector09:
am not against ranching, but buhari is acting like a authoritarian, he should nt force anyone to gv out their land, if my memory serves me right there are abt 19 northern state and i gues it we be ok for ranching

A proposal is not force. He only proposed. The idea of setting ranches in the North alone is void, with the fact that the products are consumed all over the country.

The gains of Ranches outweighs the ills. Ethno-religious sentiments has just blindfolded lots


We rather see multiple deaths and blame an administration without no logical solution. Imagine you saying ranching should only be done in the North. smh
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by PVision2020(m): 10:56am On Jul 02, 2018
blackaxe78:


And how do the products get to other parts of the country on daily basis. Please think and proffer logical solutions. There are more cows than human in New Zealand and its well with them. Stop using hate to hinder your thinking and progressiveness
How did Tomatoes, onions, beans and other farm produce gets to other parts of the country from the north? Are there not northerners that transfers their cattle via truck to the south? Must we have piggery reserves, Fishery reserves, poultry reserves all over the country before we eat Pork, chickens and fish?
Even fish and poultry products that are imported from far away Netherland gets to every Nigeria market on a daily basis. Likewise goods and farm produce are transported from the south to the north on a daily basis. The New Zealand you talked doesn't have cattle ranch in every neighborhood. It's high time you quit that primitive almajiri school and put your brain to good use.

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Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by blackaxe78: 11:04am On Jul 02, 2018
PVision2020:

How did Tomatoes, onions, beans and other farm produce gets to other parts of the country from the north? Are there not northerners that transfers their cattle via truck to the south? Likewise goods and farm produce are transported from the south to the north on a daily basis. The New Zealand you talked doesn't have cattle ranch in every neighborhood. It's high time you quit that almajiri school and put your brain to good use.

Hear yourself! Do you think you making sense. The Tomatoes and products from the North you consuming today did not get to Lagos today, Like wise the beef.

Please reason and make logical points. Moving Cattles to the South on daily basis..... smh You should be sacked from your work place if you reason at this level. You couldnt even proffer a sensible solution.

Cattles leaving Sokoto to Bayelsa on daily basis... Chai!
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by PVision2020(m): 11:27am On Jul 02, 2018
blackaxe78:


Hear yourself! Do you think you making sense. The Tomatoes and products from the North you consuming today did not get to Lagos today, Like wise the beef.

Please reason and make logical points. Moving Cattles to the South on daily basis..... smh You should be sacked from your work place if you reason at this level. You couldnt even proffer a sensible solution.

Cattles leaving Sokoto to Bayelsa on daily basis... Chai!
My friend stop being primitive. How a product gets to the customers/consumers is the sole headache of the producers. The poultry farmers in the SW transport their day old chicks to far away Bayelsa, frozen fish gets to every part of Nigeria from Lagos port without ish. Nothing stops the herders also from transporting their cattle to various abbatiors whether daily, weekly or monthly, that's their headache. Fulani herdsmen aren't doing us any favour, we pay as high as 300k for a cow, so they aren't giving us cows for free.

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Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by blackaxe78: 11:34am On Jul 02, 2018
PVision2020:

My friend stop being primitive. How a product gets to the customers/consumers is the sole headache of the producers. The poultry farmers in the SW transport their day old chicks to far away Bayelsa, frozen fish gets to every part of Nigeria from Lagos port without ish. Nothing stops the herders also from transporting their cattle to various abbatiors whether daily, weekly or monthly, that's their headache. Fulani herdsmen aren't doing us any favour, we pay as high as 300k for a cow, so they aren't giving us cows for free.


You still mot making a point. Is it on daily basis? "Frozen" you called it and not fresh. I would have welcomed it if you said Fresh fish is transported from Lagos to Bayelsa. You talking of a product people mostly demand fresh and mostly will reject a second day product.

Lets imagine cattles are transported monthly to every region, wouldnt still their be a designated ranch they will be before facing the abbattior?

Moreover, Where is this done in any part of the world? If I am to list the advantages of ranching to you, you wont be able to come up with 3 meaningful disadvantages of ranching
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Nobody: 11:49am On Jul 02, 2018
Postanalyser:
Too many (irrelevant) groups in this shithole seeking for notice.
Meanwhile,fulanis are disaster to Nigeria and Africa as a whole
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by PVision2020(m): 12:25pm On Jul 02, 2018
blackaxe78:



You still mot making a point. Is it on daily basis? "Frozen" you called it and not fresh. I would have welcomed it if you said Fresh fish is transported from Lagos to Bayelsa. You talking of a product people mostly demand fresh and mostly will reject a second day product.

Lets imagine cattles are transported monthly to every region, wouldnt still their be a designated ranch they will be before facing the abbattior?

Moreover, Where is this done in any part of the world? If I am to list the advantages of ranching to you, you wont be able to come up with 3 meaningful disadvantages of ranching
You're just roaming about in a vicious cycle. Cattle rearing is a private business like Piggery, Fishery, Farming etc, so how you go about selling to your customers is nobodies business.
An abbatoir can handle up-to 100-200 cows, that would cater for the weekly need of that community. And nothing stops them from killing the cattle in the north, freeze it and transport it in refrigerators as the case of Chickens and turkey. This cattle breeders are billionaires with some of them having up-to 5k cows, so they can develop new ways of getting their products to their consumers
Nigerians can no longer accommodate your primitive and savage lifestyles, we've moved on, it's either you catch up or you fizzle out of business.

You can only start making sense when you advocate for the creation of:
Piggery ranch, fishery reserves, Poultry ranch, Farm settlements, Snail farmers enclaves, Grass cutter ranch, Clubs and beer parlour hub, Distilling and Brewery industrial Estate etc, in the core north, exclusive for non Fulanis.
What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.
BTW no advantage of cattle ranching can be compare to the value of life which unfortunately the fulanis doesn't value.

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Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Ziggylady(f): 12:36pm On Jul 02, 2018
emi14:
Vote against buhari if you don't want ranching.



Simple!!!
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Grayxme: 12:39pm On Jul 02, 2018
There would not be crisis, crisis will arise if the FG is actually giving ownership of the ranches to the herders. This initiative of erecting ranches to reduce or totally alleviate this disease of farmers/herders clashes so we can all live in peace. This ranches wouldn't be owned by the herdsmen but by the FG, they are only being given land so they have a place for their cows to graze and not have to compete with farmers for land space. There is no way this new livestock program will cause more harm than good
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Simbrixton(m): 12:43pm On Jul 02, 2018
Postanalyser:

Who told your guy?
lol
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by Ndonu101: 1:05pm On Jul 02, 2018
blackaxe78:


A proposal is not force. He only proposed. The idea of setting ranches in the North alone is void, with the fact that the products are consumed all over the country.

The gains of Ranches outweighs the ills. Ethno-religious sentiments has just blindfolded lots


We rather see multiple deaths and blame an administration without no logical solution. Imagine you saying ranching should only be done in the North. smh

This is as ridiculous as they come

When will you dredge a river in the north so that fisher can fish in that area as well? Since you must farm in an area before the local population can have access to the product

Look there is something called export. Hausa Fulani people should approach banks, take loans and buy a land for their cattle ranching and then export the meat to wherever their customers are!

It is not up to government to impose ranching on all states!
Re: FG Shouldn’t Cause Crisis With Ranches – Yoruba Youths by blackaxe78: 1:18pm On Jul 02, 2018
Ndonu101:


This is as ridiculous as they come

When will you dredge a river in the north so that fisher can fish in that area as well? Since you must farm in an area before the local population can have access to the product

Look there is something called export. Hausa Fulani people should approach banks, take loans and buy a land for their cattle ranching

It is not up to government to impose ranching on all states!


I never said lands should be given to them free of charge. My point is state government should set aside ranches they can buy into and henceforth ban open grazing.

You see why this topic has never been discussed arguably is all because its political with ethnotribal differences. Its just similar to a government declaring a land mass as an industrial area, It doesnt mean lands will be given out free of charge but probably at a subsidized rate to woo investors.

With this development if discussed amicably between parties, it will end all this crisis as open grazing becomes a crime. It not even compulsory its sale, a lease can also work. People have just been bitter due to religious and ethnic differences. If we are to eliminate those factors. A lot o clashes would have been averted and no one would commit a crime in disguise as an herdsman.

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