radautoworks:


It may be but that's what America was created for. To be a country of immigration. A safe Haven for those who need it. And those people in the caravan need it.

Beautyaddy:


Right!

However, like everything in life that was created for also has its limits.


When are you taking some of the caravan into your house to help?

radautoworks:


When I'm asked to despite the fact it's the government's job not mine.

radautoworks:


When I'm asked to despite the fact it's the government's job not mine.

EgunMogaji:


That's what we pay taxes for. Personal and business taxes.

Some of the refugee/assylum seekers are actually released into he custody of their relatives.

Beautyaddy:


The government does not create money...the citizens are the ones that pay taxes(money) to the government to use that same money for their needs and not necessary for other people needs that do not pay into it.

See how Canada is not struggling with their asylum crisis after telling all those that left the US through the US-Canada border to come to them with open arms when trump got though on asylum seeker in the US.

https://www.nairaland.com/4820718/canada-deport-asylum-seekers-walked

Beautyaddy:




The government does not create money...the citizens are the ones that pay taxes(money) to the government to use that same money for their needs and not necessary for other people needs that do not pay into it.

See how Canada is not struggling with their asylum crisis after telling all those that left the US through the US-Canada border to come to them with open arms when trump got though on asylum seeker in the US.

https://www.nairaland.com/4820718/canada-deport-asylum-seekers-walked

radautoworks:


Umm... Actually, the government DOES create money lol. It's called the treasury. They also "create" money by charging taxes and printing it as necessary but these dumbasses would rather keep it and reduce taxes leaving the government with less money and the elites with more. As a business owner you would think I would like this. No. The amount we were paying was not unfair and I am willing to pay taxes for the greater good. You never know what can happen and God forbid but one day I or someone I know might need the services I am paying for.

Everyone keeps touting how wonderful the services Scandinavian countries have are. Go find out how much they pay in taxes. And they do it happily and they all benefit.

Do I also need to point out that while I love America, the USA caused the instability in a lot of the countries of the asylum seekers? So go ahead and "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

Beautyaddy:


I no longer going to go back and forth with you. It's obvious we see and accept things differently and that is okay.

........

Sadly, some hardworking US citizens might have to suffer for it with their hard earned money(taxes).

lillaowow:
I've been canvassing everyone to vote. I don't understand why the relatively young Americans aren't interested.

Sadly, can't vote in this election till 2020.

The really good news about Trump administration and currently political climate is that it has gotten more people involved in (talking about) politics

Holocene:
I agree with EgunMogagi....for those of us who came in through the legal process and paid huge fees in filing for shittt....its bullshity when someone tries to get in through the backdoor and gets free benefits just because they had a child here. The damn govt takes about a third if my hard earned check and then pays it out as benefit to a damn illegal....that's some damn bullshit

EgunMogaji:


There are a lot of Americans who feel like us hence why Trump won. I'm not a Trump guy, but I can see where he's coming from and why he was able to easily fan up his base with rhetoric.

I absolutely detest tourist births. Absolutely.

Holocene:
I agree with EgunMogagi....for those of us who came in through the legal process and paid huge fees in filing for shittt....its bullshity when someone tries to get in through the backdoor and gets free benefits just because they had a child here. The damn govt takes about a third if my hard earned check and then pays it out as benefit to a damn illegal....that's some damn bullshit

hammed71:
Guys what do you think about the huge caravan headed for the usa

EgunMogaji:


There are a lot of Americans who feel like us hence why Trump won. I'm not a Trump guy, but I can see where he's coming from and why he was able to easily fan up his base with rhetoric.

I absolutely detest tourist births. Absolutely.

OyinbowithaTan:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=quz5A87Oqgc

Taal17:


It's not rocket science. Other developed countries have work visas temp visas and resident visas and their kids don't get citizenship by birth.
It can be done. Jus soli in other developed countries were mainly stopped for 'birth tourism and anchor babies'

radautoworks:


The daily wire is a known conservative far right news outlet that has similar views to Breitbart. It is also known for publishing false narratives. But considering who posted this here I am not surprised. This thread is for facts and not fake news.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Wire

OyinbowithaTan:


I think the federal policy of granting citizenship to a baby, whose parent is not a citizen of the USA, is unconstitutional. The 14th Amendment says
"subject to the jurisdiction thereof". So a Chinese women on a tourist visa is not a subject of the USA. The same for a woman who is in the USA illegally from Honduras.

OyinbowithaTan:


Birth tourism is really big with Chinese and Russians.

EgunMogaji:


For sure.

Immigration just busted a Chinese Birth House near me here a few months ago. They turned a million dollar home in a private community to a birth center.

OyinbowithaTan:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=quz5A87Oqgc

Beautyaddy:


The interpretation of this quote has been neglected for many decades.

I guess with the high rise of abuse from birth tourism and anchor babies government benefits that people just started to pay attention to it.

It is only with the intervention of the US Supreme court can this be eventually interpreted correctly and addressed.

EgunMogaji:


For sure.

Immigration just busted a Chinese Birth House near me here a few months ago. They turned a million dollar home in a private community to a birth center.

Beautyaddy:


The interpretation of this quote has been neglected for many decades.

I guess with the high rise of abuse from birth tourism and anchor babies government benefits that people just started to pay attention to it.

It is only with the intervention of the US Supreme court can this be eventually interpreted correctly and addressed.

EgunMogaji:


I have mixed feelings.

As a Nigerian I understand why they are coming, not in agreement but I get it.

As an American I say F this BS. You just can't appear at the border in the thousands and claim asylum. Some of them passed through many countries, so why not ask for asylum there? Isn't asylum just a means to get to a safe harbor?

It's messy and will get messier and I am just glad that I don't have a job that will require me to have to make some of these hard decisions that will affect families.

Frankly I can't wait to bounce out of here.

EgunMogaji:


And Trump is bringing it up.

I'm a card carrying Democrat who crosses the aisle to vote on issue if necessary. I am certain that no Democrat would bring it up.

EgunMogaji:


I have mixed feelings.

As a Nigerian I understand why they are coming, not in agreement but I get it.

As an American I say F this BS. You just can't appear at the border in the thousands and claim asylum. Some of them passed through many countries, so why not ask for asylum there? Isn't asylum just a means to get to a safe harbor?

It's messy and will get messier and I am just glad that I don't have a job that will require me to have to make some of these hard decisions that will affect families.

Frankly I can't wait to bounce out of here.