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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by JobmanNwapdp: 1:02pm On Aug 28, 2018
If you never believed that what goes around comes around, then, you must have a rethink, Few years ago it was Dr Jonathan and PDP led administration even the so called legal practitioners who suddenly turned to politicians against PDP and Jonathan like Femi Falana, Festus Keyamo, Wole Soyinka and host of them.......hmmmmm....today reverse is the case, every mouth is shout and the witch hunting is going unbated, Jonathan offered us freedom, we used against him,......today Buhari is unlishing hell on earth against Nigerians and no one is talking....ohhhh you guys are complaining now because flaunting of laws and orders, disobidience of rule of law and sliencing of every mouth that dare speak is effecting you, dont worry the troubles must continue untill we come to our senses to vote them out.


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By Innocent Anaba, Dapo Akinrefon, Ikechukwu Nnochiri, Levinus Nwabughiogu, Dirisu Yakubu & Henry Ojelu

•Lawyers, Afenifere, PDP, others knock Buhari, say rule of law foundation for national interest; Senators react

LAGOS — Senior lawyers and notable political actors, yesterday, took umbrage at President Muhammadu Buhari’s elevation of national interest above the rule of law, with several of them lamenting that the country was headed the path of dictatorship.



President Buhari, however, found support from the chairman of the Presidential Advisory Committee Against Corruption, Professor Itse Sagay, SAN, who said he would even extend Buhari’s assertions beyond national security to even putting the fight against corruption above the rule of law.

Buhari had in an address presented at the opening ceremony of the 2018 Annual General Conference of the Nigerian Bar Association, NBA, in Abuja on Sunday, insisted that individual rights of alleged offenders would not be spared when national security and public interest were threatened.

“Rule of Law must be subject to the supremacy of the nation’s security and national interest”.

“Our apex court has had cause to adopt a position on this issue in this regard and it is now a matter of judicial recognition that where national security and public interest are threatened or there is a likelihood of their being threatened, the individual rights of those allegedly responsible must take second place, in favour of the greater good of society,’’ the President had said.

Outcry over  President’s  position

His claim was repudiated by senior lawyers across the country, political actors and the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP.

Lawyers, who kicked against the President’s statement include Professor Ernest Ojukwu, SAN, Chief Mike Ozekhome, SAN, Abeny Mohammed, SAN, Mr Solomon Bob, a lawyer and Governor Nyesom Wike’s aide, Dr. Kayode Ajulo, Mr. Ugochukwu Ezekiel, Mr Joseph Otteh, Executive Director, Access to Justice, Mr Monday Ubani, out-going second Vice President of NBA, and Mr Gbenga Ojo, Senior Law Lecturer, Lagos State University, LASU.

In his reaction, Prof. Ernest Ojukwu, SAN, said:  “It is unfortunate that our President made that speech. I think there is a fundamental problem which we need to address on that issue.

“If our President says that rule of law must be subject to national interest, then it is an ominous sign that our democracy has failed. The civil society needs to rise to reverse that speech whether it is in substance, form or reality, otherwise we will be in trouble.

” Rule of law is  father of  national interest  — lawyers

Chief Mike Ozekhome, SAN, said:  “He (President Buhari) is dead wrong. The rule of law predominates over national interest. Without the rule of law, there can be no nation-state. Without a nation-state, there can be no national interest. The rule of law is the father of national interest.

“As proposed by Professor A.V. Dicey, it  means equality before the law by all persons, observance of all laws by persons and authorities and, of course, obedience to court orders made by competent courts of law.

“Once a court of law has made an order for the release of a citizen on bail, the president, government and all authorities must obey the order of the court. It is not for the government to pick and choose which order to obey and which not to obey in the so-called name of “national interest.

“This is because in arriving at a decision to release an individual on bail, the court must have first heard the facts and argument of the case of both the government and the citizen.

“It is tantamount to executive lawlessness and governmental capriciousness and whimsicality to sit on appeal over a court decision to determine what amounts to national interest. Such a stance is a clear descent into anarchy and chaos.”

Similarly, Abeny Mohammed, SAN, said:  “What is national interest that rule of law must be sacrificed for? Rather, it is in the national interest of any government to obey and subject Nigeria to the rule of law. Where there is the rule of law, every interest, including that of the nation is safeguarded. A country without the rule of law is a lawless jungle.

“I don’t know who wrote that speech; it is the first time in our jurisprudence that I will hear a President complaining that the rule of law must give way for national interest. The first national interest of a country is to subject itself to the rule of law.

“That implies not doing things to suit the whims and caprices of anyone. That stops any leader from doing what he likes as he is doing today in Nigeria, unless he wants to take Nigeria back to 1984 when he was military head of state, when his words were law.”

Solomon Bob also said in his reaction:  “President Buhari, seeking to double down on lawlessness, has demanded that the rule of law be subject to national interest.  What is national interest? It’s an indeterminate term which is open to capricious abuse as we’ve seen in the last three years.

“That the President chose the occasion of the opening of the Bar Conference in Abuja to make such a comment says a lot about the abysmal depth to which the Bar has sunk and the contempt with which it is held. Lawyers who sat through that inanity without a whimper of objection need to take another look at themselves. Of what benefit is a cowardly Bar?”

National interest  is coded in  constitution,  which is law

Another lawyer, Dr. Kayode Ajulo, said:  “The ultimate national interest is codified in the Constitution. Fundamental human rights are hinged on the rule of law and if the rule of law is now to play second fiddle, then there is a potential to trample on these rights protected by our constitution.

“The President’s statement is ultra vires our constitution and every tenet of his claim as the President of our federation and, therefore, the statement has no legs to stand on. No serious citizen would take him seriously on it.”

In the same vein, Mr. Joseph Otteh said:  “What the President is saying is possible during national emergency. During such periods, certain propositions about the rule of law and human rights can be overridden in the interest of national security. Say for instance, the nation is at war and soldiers need to use a particular property that belongs to somebody.

“But even then, there would have been legislation that provides for that kind of exception. So even in war situations, the rule of law can still prevail, even if some rights are denied individuals for strategic reasons.”

“But not in peacetime, not when a country is not facing a national emergency or crisis. It is unattainable completely to say that you want to sideline the rule of law to what some people in power refer to as national security.

“In Nigeria right now, you can’t speak of any emergency that requires the President to distract from the rule of law. National security cannot be equated with government’s preference to be unaccountable to the constitution.

“They are not the same thing. A government that merely wants to ride roughshod over other branches of government, a government that wants to be arrogant to the constitution cannot say it is doing so in the interest of national security. That is not in the interest of national security.

“I defer in theory that there are some occasions where national security might press very hard on the rule of law. But where I disagree with the President is the attempt to equate Nigeria’s current situation with those kind of emergencies. We don’t have those kind of emergencies.”

Mr. Monday Ubani, said in his reaction:  “We as lawyers, don’t have a problem with national interest overriding rule of law at some point. That is possible in certain circumstances which should be determined by the court.

“But if the President is making reference to the Dasuki matter or any other matter where there had been an express order of the court, where the court has even considered national interest and other issues presented by the prosecutor and still insisted that the liberty of the defendant cannot be curtailed because there is a constitutional provision which protects the fundamental human right of every citizen, if a person is accused of a crime, our laws still presume the person innocent. It is only the court that presumes a person guilty.

“When a person has not been pronounced guilty, the state does not have any right to override the ruling of a court which has granted bail to that person.

“The issue of national security and the rule of law in the address of Mr. President must be put in proper context. There are certainly instances where a court can curtail the liberty of an individual, especially when there is a conflict of national security.

“But it is only the court that can do this and no other person. Moreover, it will be for a season and not indefinitely. This is in contrast with Dasuki’s case where the government has held him permanently incarcerated, despite several court pronouncements.

Danger ahead

“If we continue to allow this in a democracy, it is very dangerous. It is a red signal that the executive can arrest any person and tell the whole world that the person is being detained because of national security.

“The government can even use that against political opponents. That is the danger with such postulation. This is why the judiciary is there to independently examine such matter and decide whether national security should supersede the right of that individual.

“It is wrong for the executive to hide under the excuse of national security to detain an individual. The President has spoken to us (lawyers), but we don’t want him to have the impression that we have accepted his message. We are certainly not convinced with what he has said.

” Mr. Gbenga Ojo, Senior Law Lecturer, LASU, said: “If the President is talking about national security, it must be in the context of the law. Everything must be according to the law, including state or national security. If we allow what the President is postulating, then there is danger because that will give the President power to detain anyone under the guise of state security.

“Dasuki’s case is a classic example. The government is already abusing the privilege which it does not even have. The president’s idea is simply nebulous.”


Speaking on the issue, Ebun-Olu Adegboruwa, in a statement said:  “To postulate that national security should override the rule of law consideration may unwittingly portray one as harbouring dictatorial intentions, for preferring national security as a priority for governance.

“It is a dangerous proposition as we approach 2019. Taken to its proper interpretation, it may be taken to be an advance notice to the people of Nigeria, to brace up for likely threats to their rights and liberties, in the coming days.

“Whereas we all support the President in the fight against corruption and terrorism, it is still necessary to allow the rule of law to have the pride of place in all spheres of governance.

“It was under national security for instance that I was kept in custody from November 2007 till July 2008, without trial at all.”

I support Buhari — Sagay

The president, however, found support in Sagay, who said he would prefer rule of justice for Nigerians.

Sagay said: “I agree with him absolutely. I will even go further because people are saying that he is referring to the case of the former NSA, Col. Sambo Dasuki (retd) and Ibrahim El-Zakzaky, my own goes beyond all that.

‘’My own extends to robbers and looters and criminals in the society, who jump at human rights and the rule of law, forgetting that there should be rule of justice.   When you loot and subvert the economy of the country, and millions of Nigerians are suffering, then the interest of the country should override any rule of law that you claim.

‘’You should not be secure in the arms of the law when millions of your countrymen are going down because of your depredation and sabotaging our economy. So, I even extend it to corruption and not just those two, I agree absolutely with him. What I am saying is that rule of justice for Nigerians is superior to rule law for individuals.”

We’ll rally  Nigerians to  protect  democracy  — PDP

Reacting in a statement by its spokesman, Kola Ologbondiyan, the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, vowed to deploy every legitimate instrument to protect the nation’s democracy, stressing that every semblance of military dictatorship would be weeded out.

“It is instructive to note that contrary to claims by Mr. President, there is no pronouncement by the Supreme Court that subjugates the constitutional rule of law and rights of citizens to the whims, caprices and dictatorial impulses of any President.

“The PDP expresses readiness to rally Nigerians to reject every attempt by President Buhari and the All Progressives Congress (APC) to introduce the long-forgotten trappings of military dictatorship into our democratic rule, which Nigerians laboured for many years to attain,’’ the statement read in part.

The party further expressed readiness to make President Buhari account for what it called criminal abuse of human rights allegedly perpetrated under his stewardship in the past three years.

The statement continued: “Our national interest is thoroughly embedded, protected, expressed and enforced only under the rule of law as provided by our constitution and there is no how Nigerians can allow an individual to superimpose or override the constitution with his personal whims and impulses; a pattern that is characteristic of known dictators all over the world, as expressed in the obnoxious Executive Order 6, designed to justify a complete clampdown of political opponents ahead of 2019 general elections.

“President Buhari should therefore be made to answer for the litany of human rights violations in Nigeria, including documented disobedience to court orders, destruction of property, restriction of free speech, press, official corruption and lack of accountability as detailed in report by various international bodies, including Transparency International (TI), Amnesty International (AI) and US Department of State.

Turaki faults  Buhari

PDP presidential aspirant, Barrister Tanimu Turaki, also faulted the President.

Turaki, who is a Senior Advocate of Nigeria, argued that the position of the President was illegal on the strength of the fact that it is inconsistent with the provisions of the constitution which is the supreme law of the land.

Turaki, who reacted on the sidelines of a visit to the Edo State chapter of the party, said  there was danger in the position of President Buhari because his government and his party, the APC, may have a sinister motive of clamping down on the opposition under the guise of national security as the country heads to the 2019 general elections.

He lamented that the president is attempting to interpret the law illegally just as he said that he and the APC had been equating national interest with either personal interest or the interest of their party.

We’re under  full-blown  dictatorship —Afenifere

Faulting the President’s remarks, the pan-Yoruba socio-political organisation, Afenifere, said the statement showed Nigeria was under full-blown dictatorship.

Afenifere’s National Publicity Secretary, Mr. Yinka Odumakin, said: “It is clear that by that statement, the President has abrogated the rule of law in Nigeria and it signals a descent into full-blown dictatorship under a civilian dispensation.

“To make such proclamation and give the impression that the rule of law is subject to the interpretation of the President, it means that we have a democracy that is lifeless. Once you remove rule of law out of a democracy; it means that democracy is lifeless. So, clearly, our worst fears have come to play.

“We are less than six months to the general election and the President has not assented to the Electoral Act and Section 2 (1) of the ECOWAS Protocol states that no member country can change its Electoral laws six months to election.

“To the President, the law is the rule of tongue in Nigeria and once we have this type of system in a democracy, we are under full-blown dictatorship.”

Govt has lost the  argument  — Osuntokun

On his part, a chieftain for the Coalition for Nigeria Movement (CNM), Akin Osuntokun, said: “Well the fact that he chose the gathering of the NBA to issue the declaration is itself significant and symbolic. This is what happens when the government of the day has lost the argument.

“He has thrown a challenge at the Nigerian public, so it is up to the people to reclaim the fundamental notion of democracy that power belongs to the people. It seems it is also a case of a leopard who is inherently unable to change its spots. Good enough, there is an opportunity coming soon for the Nigerian electorate to liberate itself.”

It’s autocracy  — Abaribe

Also reacting, Chairman, South East Senate Caucus, Senator Enyinnaya Abaribe, faulted the President’s remarks. Senator Abaribe who represents Abia South senatorial district, said the rule of law was the grundnorm of any democratic society. He submitted that any act of governance that runs at variance with the rule of law presupposes autocracy.

“Rule of law is the grundnorm of any democratic society. Elevating any other thing above it means moving away from democracy to autocracy,’’ he said.


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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by ebenholer(m): 1:08pm On Aug 28, 2018
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What Buhari is saying is that there must be a time when you have to put off democratic approach in governance and then put on autocracy; exactly what u can see him doing by disobeying court order and intimidating both the judiciary and legislature. What a failed leadership.

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by ebenholer(m): 1:14pm On Aug 28, 2018
Hear SAN Sagay's statement:President Buhari, however, found support from the chairman of the Presidential Advisory Committee Against Corruption, Professor Itse Sagay, SAN, who said he would even extend Buhari’s assertions beyond national security to even putting the fight against corruption above the rule of law. With what I heard from Sagay it means the Nigeria Constitution is corruption and will only need the service of EFCC. This nation really needs to be delivered from the evil leadership.

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by athorello(m): 1:35pm On Aug 28, 2018
Jeezuzpick:


But when the courts make their rulings the executive can ignore then, right? Because that's what this is all about o.

Are you insinuating that the law supports corruption and should be set aside to properly "fight" corruption?

Make your point already!

If you follow my logic and the context of rule of law arguments, you should know that what we're talking about pertains more to individual rights.
Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by Jerrypolo(m): 1:39pm On Aug 28, 2018
Afamed:

The supreme Court in the case of Asari Dokubo and Uwazurike vs FG/ Obasanjo in 1999 gave the verdict. " When ever the Security of a nation is threatened the rule of law is suspended. it's not Buhari that made that pronouncement. It's the supreme Court that gave the Judgement. Goggle remains your friend.


Do not interpret a law you do not understand. There was no such judgement.

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by Jgovt(m): 1:41pm On Aug 28, 2018
With this,political science,Law and Isd is useless in Nigeria
Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by Bimpe29: 2:02pm On Aug 28, 2018
It will be surely disastarous to have Buhari as President beyond May 29, 2019.

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by Eagleword14(f): 2:21pm On Aug 28, 2018
Hmmm....this is no longer democracy

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by maasoap(m): 2:48pm On Aug 28, 2018
crimeboss:


If u want real change tell ur lifeless president to restructure the country, enough of ur failed excuses.

The same way you told your Otuoke shoeless fisherman to restructure Nigeria when he was there for 5 years and you still wanted him to get additional 4 years.
Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by CSTR1005: 2:54pm On Aug 28, 2018
PVision2020:
Even in advance democracy, the national security supersedes the rule of law.
Under which rule of law was Osama Bin Laden Murdered?
CIA published names of assumed terrorists and place bounty on their head to get them dead or alive without referring to any rule of law.

Under which rule of law were Guatanamo (and several others) inmates incarcerated?
Obama campaigned that he was going to close down Guatanamo bay but was treated with the reality by the service chiefs when he assumed office.

Under which rule of law did Mossad (Israeli secret forces) and CIA etc carry out several extrajudicial killings? Killing nuclear scientist, assumed terrorists, political leaders etc.
Under which rule of law did Western nations use in causing unrest and usurping powers in other nations?

Not every issue of national import can be discuss in the court room and that's why every nation have their CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.
There are still 20th century informations that are still classified in the US.

It takes more than being a Mr Nice Guy to rule a nation.
I know it'll be very hard to draw the middle line between supremacy of the national interest and dictatorship, that's the reason why we need to elect a president with good antecedents that we can trust with several clandestine decision.
There is a reason why Guantanamo is not on US soil.
There is a reason why Guantanamo is not for US citizens.

It contravenes the constitution protecting the right of Americans.

If you trust buhari enough to surrender your freedom to him, kindly make exceptions for millions of us that have zero trust in him or his motives.

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by freeze001(f): 2:55pm On Aug 28, 2018
Afamed:

The supreme Court in the case of Asari Dokubo and Uwazurike vs FG/ Obasanjo in 1999 gave the verdict. " When ever the Security of a nation is threatened the rule of law is suspended. it's not Buhari that made that pronouncement. It's the supreme Court that gave the Judgement. Goggle remains your friend.

This case was decided on its merit based on the peculiar facts of the case and it was a bail application for which the court stated certain grounds upon which the fundamental right to liberty of a person may be breached. It is not for blanket application and it is not for the Executive to just decide what threatens/overrides public or national interest. Every alleged threat to National security or interest must be subject to the judiciary whose decision is binding on all persons in Nigeria. Te court stands as a neutral arbiter between the Executive and a defendant and decides what weight to attach to every circumstance/evidence presented before it! That is the rule of law which must not be jettisoned because the president and his appointees are too lazy and unprincipled to do their jobs within the ambit of the law. Otherwise why will the Executive through its security agencies happily obey an order of court to remand a person in prison but become reluctant and even out-rightly disobey same court when the order is for the release of a person whether unconditionally or on bail? Is it not obvious that some personal unwholesome interest is being disguised as 'national interest'?

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by prof12(m): 3:17pm On Aug 28, 2018
Afamed:

The supreme Court in the case of Asari Dokubo and Uwazurike vs FG/ Obasanjo in 1999 gave the verdict. " When ever the Security of a nation is threatened the rule of law is suspended. it's not Buhari that made that pronouncement. It's the supreme Court that gave the Judgement. Goggle remains your friend.

Tanx bro
Majority of those that queue behind people who react recklessly are staunch illiterates and or ignorant of the basics and circumstances.

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by PVision2020(m): 3:26pm On Aug 28, 2018
CSTR1005:

There is a reason why Guantanamo is not on US soil.
There is a reason why Guantanamo is not for US citizens.

It contravenes the constitution protecting the right of Americans.

If you trust buhari enough to surrender your freedom to him, kindly make exceptions for millions of us that have zero trust in him or his motives.
So the rule of law only applies to US citizens on US soil? lol. Haven't you heard that everyone is equal before the law ( the fundamental tenet of the rule of law) or it's only US citizens that enjoys fundamental Human Rights and who tells you that their are no US terrorist in Guantanamo? Do you even know that Osama Bin Laden was a US citizen?
Why not provide answers to the other questions?
come up with more weighty arguments, and stop this petty/bias argument

Whether you support Buhari, Atiku or even yourself for president, the fact remain that the National Security will always be superior to the rule of law.
Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by Minjim: 3:31pm On Aug 28, 2018
our constitution is riddled with lacunas and some corrupt lawyers have capitalized on that . Ordinarily, Rule of Law should be builded on National Interest, we cant talk of Rule of Law without reconciling it with what is in the best interest of the Nation.
Those lawyers are just protecting the interest of the corrupt elites

What we need is urgent constitutional Review

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by franudi: 3:47pm On Aug 28, 2018
Afonjas,have you seen what you have caused?
Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by Yankee101: 4:51pm On Aug 28, 2018
After una NBA shamelessly hailed Sai baba to his face. Hide your faces in shame abeg

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by ItsMeAboki(m): 4:54pm On Aug 28, 2018
ngadaAwo:
it's all about eye service

for the fact that the president visited them you don't expect the learned gentlemen to boo him like touts

nobody is happy for Buhari
only criminal jobless zombies do

kiss the truth

Go to Amelika, ask under what doctrine did the government locked Al Qaeda prisoners in Guantanamo Bay - without charging let alone taking them to court, for now over 20 yrs; incidentally for fighting against the US army for invasion of their own countries.

My friend, when it comes to national security there is no such thing as personal or individual right because the over all collective interest of the majority overrides that of an individual - this is what applies the world over; kiss the truth.

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by tete7000(m): 4:59pm On Aug 28, 2018
When Buhari lose election in 2019,.he will hinge on the contents of this speech to cling to power. Nigerians go see wheeenn.

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Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by Afamed: 6:29pm On Aug 28, 2018
Jerrypolo:



Do not interpret a law you do not understand. There was no such judgement.
Safe the argument. Goggle Supreme court verdict. Asari Dokubo/ Uwazurike vs FG/ Obasanjo 1999. Don't be a lazy youth. I didn't make the Judgement neither did Buhari was the president during this period. The Supreme court made the verdict.

Cc:Jerrypolo
Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by Afamed: 6:36pm On Aug 28, 2018
ItsMeAboki:


Go to Amelika, ask under what doctrine did the government locked Al Qaeda prisoners in Guantanamo Bay - without charging let alone taking them to court, for now over 20 yrs; incidentally for fighting against the US army for invasion of their own countries.

My friend, when it comes to national security there is no such thing as personal or individual right because the over all collective interest of the majority overrides that of an individual - this is what applies the world over; kiss the truth.
Ignore them. Most of them are still in their elementary classes.There are many in Guantanamo Bay over 30years without trial.
Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by ItsMeAboki(m): 7:09pm On Aug 28, 2018
Afamed:

Ignore them. Most of them are still in their elementary classes.There are many in Guantanamo Bay over 30years without trial.

No wonder.
Re: Lawyers, Others Blast Buhari On Rule Of Law Remarks by Bowwow11(m): 8:09pm On Aug 28, 2018
please someone should summarize it for me I can't go through all these projects written in the form of rule of law

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