bk/babe99:

lol. Ure amazing!

Kobojunkie:

I think you should re-read the same article.

Kobojunkie:

Would you also believe a Northerner(I have nothing against them) telling you that the only reason there have been more Northern Presidents in Nigeria is simply because the Northerners are the best politicians in the country, and therefore good leaders?

Kobojunkie:

Yes, the said agreement is no where in the Nigerian constitution, and it is not in the PDP Constitution either. However, that does not mean it does not exist at all.

Kobojunkie:


Also I am curious, are you saying we ought to take Obasanjo's word on this to mean no such agreement exists ?

Kobojunkie:

but if you spend more time digesting Nigerian politics, you will likely learn that it is almost common place for politicians to go back on agreements, even oral agreements when it is in their(selfish) favour to do so

Kobojunkie:

but if you spend more time digesting Nigerian politics, you will likely learn that it is almost common place for politicians to go back on agreements, even oral agreements when it is in their(selfish) favour to do so, and they rouse the people by playing VICTIMS, and in the end get their way only for the people to continue to suffer at the end. That I believe is likely what is happening today.

FL Gators:

ROTFL

I only indulged you today because I  was bored.

bk/babe99:

   
Nah, but should we take the words of the[b] illiterates [/b] that ran your country into the ground in the first place?


Spend more time digesting Nigerian Politics??!?! Man, gimme a break. Who got time for that shiyyt?! Dude, Nigeria is not the only place politicians go back on their words its the world over, thats why they are politicians, and thats why its called politics. Without guns and coups the Northerners cant fare well in Nigerian politics; theyre (according to me) too st.u.pi.d/violent to be sleek; same problem the Ibos have! What I see here is this; Mr Obasanjo intended to cripple the North politically, and he has dealt them a master stroke with back-handed biyytch slaps to boot. Let them go to school and get educated, and learn to co-habitate instead of[b] killing[/b] and cheating all the time and they'll be good in the future. But until then, they can go suck on fat ones!

metal-gong:

Even if the Northern part of Nigerians are less educated, you illiterate Latino bastar.d[b] does not[/b] have the moral obligation to spew such hypocritical
nonsense. . . . . As I had told you before, you Latinos are the most illiterate, dumb and whorish set of vagabonds.

bk/babe99:

Lol.hahahahha.Professor MENTAL-gong! lol. One day I'm gonna keel ova from reading the Scud-missles u call posts! Re-read your post, look at how many grammatical errors u had in less than 3 sentences? Are u Northern Nigerian by chance, cus theres no way an Ibo man's english can be this bad!lol. Then again I might be wrong cus I've seen Eziachi, Dede1, and basketmouth's writings ,and, God. . . . .

Kobojunkie:

hhm . . . mayb you should focus on the issue instead !

Kobojunkie:

You did not answer the question. If you feel you did, please repost the exact line where you provide me these answers.

By the way, I did not make any CLAIMS, I simply based my argument on my thoughts on the issue after considering patterns I have observed over years on this. This I made clear about 3 or 4 posts ago.

onye_ngbu:

Are you telling me that you no longer know why party primaries are conducted?

Lets say you dont.
Primaries are meant to produce party flag bearers and thats why PDP should stop any candidate who is not from the region the ticket is zoned to.

Agreement is for rotational government which begins from the primaries.

What are you driving at sef.

onye_ngbu:

Yea, I agree, though u tend to push people to go off the line atimes.
This is what I wrote after you asked why they should be stopped from being in the primaries.
if there is any other question you are referring to or you feel my answer doesnt make sense to you, I'd like to hear it.

onye_ngbu:

And yes! It is all [b]claims [/b]you were making because you do not have anything to support "your thoughts on the issue after considering patterns you have observed over years on this" .
I was quoting you there.

dayokanu:

While this rotation agreement was on, Rimi and Gemade contested when it was supposed to be the turn of the South

dayokanu:

My point is that if there was an effective agreement, why allow people from the "wrong" side of the country to contest.
What would happen to the rotation if Rimi had won the primary? So of Rimi can contest during a Southern turn, then Goodluck too should be allowed to contest

metal-gong:

No amount of distortions would WILL/ CAN change the fact that you are an illiterate Latino prostit.ute toeing the same line with your adulterous mother.Your only connection to Nigerian affairs is because your adulterous mother's latest JOHN is a Nigerian whom you call your STEP FATHER.  . . Shame!!!

Imagine, a Latino dummy who has never been able to construct a complete sentence on this forum proof reading my posts. Wonders (COMMA) they say(COMMA) shall never end!!

saintchux:

Am not a politician. Why because most of them can not be trusted.

1. In 1999, PDP had a gentle man agreement that south should produce the president. Why should south produce the president: Because MKO Abiola from south won 1983 election and was annual by IBB, so to compensate the south, North is now generous to allow a southerner to taste the presidency. Funny abi.
2. In 2003 PDP said that the gentle man arrangement still exist, but some northerners contest for primaries in the PDP, they were allowed to buy form. PDP did not sanction them.
3. In 2007 PDP said presidency now goes to the north, some southerners bought form, and contested the primaries. yaruda a northern won. PDP did not sanction the southerners nothing happened, business as usual.
4. Now toward 2011, Yaruda died, the table turn around. The president is now from the south. The north do not want the president to contest the primaries. WHY because he is from the south.

That is why I do not like politics. If nobody was bared from at least contesting the primaries. Why are people worried and running temperature if GEJ want to contest. This is primaries oo, not general election.

I am not an admire of Tony Anineh because of his role in June 12, but for once I have seen him say the truth, may be because it may favour him, but it is the truth. He agreed that there is such agreement but it is not sacrosanct. It is not observed.

saintchux:

Am not a politician. Why because most of them can not be trusted.

1. In 1999, PDP had a gentle man agreement that south should produce the president. Why should south produce the president: Because MKO Abiola from south won 1983 election and was annual by IBB, so to compensate the south, North is now generous to allow a southerner to taste the presidency. Funny abi.
2. In 2003 PDP said that the gentle man arrangement still exist, but some northerners contest for primaries in the PDP, they were allowed to buy form. PDP did not sanction them.
3. In 2007 PDP said presidency now goes to the north, some southerners bought form, and contested the primaries. yaruda a northern won. PDP did not sanction the southerners nothing happened, business as usual.
4. Now toward 2011, Yaruda died, the table turn around. The president is now from the south. The north do not want the president to contest the primaries. WHY because he is from the south.

That is why I do not like politics. If nobody was bared from at least contesting the primaries. Why are people worried and running temperature if GEJ want to contest. This is primaries oo, not general election.

I am not an admire of Tony Anineh because of his role in June 12, but for once I have seen him say the truth, may be because it may favour him, but it is the truth. He agreed that there is such agreement but it is not sacrosanct. It is not observed.

rhymz:

That is exactly where lies the moral dilemma, both the 2003 and 2007 primaries did not respect the "gentlema's agreement" in principle and in practice, however, the outcome usually does. Whether the primaries were just gimmicks to hoodwink the public into believing that the PDP had internal democracy is a question we would leave to the party management who did not deem it fit to fine those who almost wanted to flaw the agreement. But it can't be denied that the agreement exists and somewhat have been the basis they have used to choose who their flag bearer is. GEJ coming out to act like the agreement did not exist and was not the basis Yaradua( who never was interested in becoming president)and him( never stood a chance with the more ambitious Odili who didn't want to play second fiddle) were selected would be tantamount to saying, "hey northern fellas, this is what you get from entering into an agreement with a southerner, a stab in the back".

Kobojunkie:

That still does not answer the question. I have made sure to ask you direct questions on this and I would appreciate you provide answers at this point to some at least.
Exactly!!! Same thing with you. You also have NO supporting evidence for claims you have made so far either. Again, I am sure I was clear on this when I gave you a list earlier on things to consider here.
a) we are speaking of a Party which we are both not members of

b) we are speaking of an issue we are likely never to get detailed inside information on since these "agreements" are not documented anywhere but exist as an understanding between party members


I don't know why you are so BOTHERED by it though since it does not need to apply to you as a person since you are not a member of this party.

@9ijaprince

Ekwueme contested with Obasanjo because he's from the south too.

Kenyata:

@9ijaprince

Ekwueme contested with Obasanjo because he's from the south too.