wizsultan:

wat do u expect from a player that hasnt touchd ball in 3months?
Dont u get it? this guy isn't fit

~Sauron~:

The final is 50-50. . . . . .
Either of the them can win it. It won't be a disgrace if Holland loses to Spain and vice versa.
They are the 2 best teams in the world cup playing offensive football.

Torres could be shyte for Spain but he's better than any German striker in the last 2 decades.

Germany hardly had the ball. . . . . .I dunno how you still believe Muller woulda changed your fortunes tonight.
He played well when Germany bossed possession in the previous matches. He woulda been a pedestrian tonight like his team-mates.
How many chances did y'all cop on the night? I can only remember Kroos firing at close range from a cross - apart from that you're struggling.

Ronaldo has shyte stats for Portugal but he's the most dangerous forward player in the world.
Messi hasn't scored for Argentina in the last 12 games or so. He's better than all the German players in the last half century.

Some players are NOT cut to perform for National Teams but they are worth more than the Mullers, Kloses, and Bastians of this world.

dayokanu:

Ronaldo Lima hardly touched the ball in 2 years before he came to score 8 goals in japan Korea, [b]Klose was benched permanently [/b]at Bayern yet he has 4 goals

Torres is dud, No wonder he was benched. How can you play in front of the most creative midfield in the world and have 23 goals in over 70 games? Comepare to Villa or even Morientes who played for striker for a poorer Spanish midfield

wizsultan:

Ronaldo Lima hardly touched the ball in 2 years
and did he back to score those goals straight from injury?
my guy, bn injured is different from bn benched!!!

wizsultan:

GBAM!!!
u sabi footie well well,
bunch of terrible analyst are in here

wizsultan:

Ronaldo Lima hardly touched the ball in 2 years

wizsultan:

and did he come back to score those goals straight from injury?
my guy, bn injured is different from bn benched!!!

Aloy+Emeka:

dayokanu:

Torres 2 world cups --- goals

Muller 1 world cup 4 goals

Stats dont lie. I wont even mention Kloses record one goal behind Ronaldo Lima

Tell me any striker for a top country who has less than 25 goals in over 70 appearances, he has been playing fr Spain for 7 years 2 yrs more than Villa and yet he cant match even Morientes record.

Was he injured for those 7 years he has been wearning number 9 for Spain?

medjai:

dayo, torres has scored in the world cup. Infact, he scored Spains first goal in germany 2006

Was Oleg Salenko better than Maradona in 1994?
Was Salenko better than Dennis Bergkamp in the same tourney?

Any retard with a purple patch can come to the world cup and score goals - it has nothing to do with their true value.
The real worth is in the domestic leagues in Europe - where one cannot hide cos it runs for full 9 mths, not a competition of one month.

Klose that cannot start games for a useless club like Bayern Munich but has scored plenty goals in this tourney - does that make him better than Cristiano Ronaldo?

Torres is better than any German striker in the last 20 yrs.
That is ALL i know. Whether he has 1 goal in 200 games does not mean shyte.

Was Messi injured when he played 12 consecutive games for Argentina without scoring?
Is Muller better than Messi?

dayokanu:

Ronaldo came back from a 2 yr injury break, He wasnt fully fit and was overweight, yet he scored 8 goals, Robben just recovered less than 2 weeks ago from hamstring and has 2 goals in 2 starts

dayokanu:

Torres 2 world cups --- goals

Muller 1 world cup 4 goals

Stats dont lie. I wont even mention Kloses record one goal behind Ronaldo Lima

Tell me any striker for a top country who has less than 25 goals in over 70 appearances, he has been playing fr Spain for 7 years 2 yrs more than Villa and yet he cant match even Morientes record.

Was he injured for those 7 years he has been wearning number 9 for Spain?

dayokanu:

Get some perspective Maradona was a midfielder Salenko was a striker, Soon you would ask if Salenko was better than Peter Rufai. Maradonas job is not to score while the only job of Fernando Torres is to score goals.

Two attempts at a world cup fro torres, tell us his record, If I play as a striker for Spain in front of Xavi, Fabregas, Iniesta and Alonzo, I would score at least 3 goals

Klose was highest goal scorer in a world cup, Highest goal scorer in a league, tell us about Torres he couldnt even top scorers chart in an ordinary Confederations cup or was he injured then too?

Villa outscored him in Euro 2008, COnfed 2009, Mundial 2010. They play for the same team so whats Torres excuse for the horrible stats.

Tell me one single regular striker for a top footballing nation that has such dismal record.

Was Messi top striker for Argentina, Did messi have Iniesta, Xavi and Fabregas supplying him with passes? Torres was top striker for Spain the most creative force in the world

dayokanu:



Was Messi top striker for Argentina, Did messi have Iniesta, Xavi and Fabregas supplying him with passes? Torres was top striker for Spain the most creative force in the world

your stats are right and true,
but one thing u should understand is that most times a team style of play as a whole, influences some certain players,

watch football and forget stat,
take spain 4 example, due to their present style of play, spanish strikers must b very patient b4 they can get the ball,the build up is real slow, and thats the reason they dont score more than two goals most times, (aw many times do u see villa wit d ball, and aw many times has he scored as a lone striker in this tornament)

henry complained in his first 3 months bout their cautious style of play unlike the direct  style played in premiership,

wat dd klose, poldi achieve in their clubs?
messi couldnt even get a goal too but assists,
rooney was terribl but in club, he is clinical
c. ronaldo nko?

a team's style is a great influence oga mi, watch football rather than stat!!!

y do u think german players esp strikers dont do well 4 their clubs,
any sensibl striker wil fit into the german's counter attack style

Wesley Sneijder's performance in this tourney has rendered your argument useless. . . . . . .
Maradona was a supporting striker in 94. . . . .He wasn't a midfielder. Go and watch the tournament again.

How many goals has Leo Messi scored for Argentina in the last 2 world cup tournaments. . . . .
Is Muller better than Messi? Answer that question.

Bundesliga is a shyte league. If Klose scores 200 goals in Germany, it's worth only 20 goals in the Premiership.
I don't need stats to know Torres shytes on Miroslav Klose's whole lineage in football. El Nino is that good.

though he has himself suggested that the tally would not be as high in a more defensively astute league.

“In England the keepers usually come out too soon and try to go one on one with you," he revealed.

“The central defenders are usually big, strong, aggressive lads. I guess it is probably because of these characteristics that the majority think they can solve problems by getting tough with me.

“But the truth is most of them lack defensive positioning as a result of their reliance on strength and aggression and leave so much space for you to take advantage of.”

http://www.goal.com/en/news/8/main/2008/06/05/723987/torres-premiership-defenders-are-dodgy

Kaka
Messi
Ronaldo
Rooney(until the last WCQ).

dayokanu:

Maradona was a support striker in 1994? Sharon I take God beg you dont embarras yourself.
What was Batistuta, Balbo and Cannigia

Messi plays behind 2 strikers Higuain and Tevez, Who does Torres play behind? His shadow and his scent.

Torres himself confessed that he looks good in the EPL because defenders and goalies are senseless

Kaka is a striker? what are Ronaldo, Adriano, Luis Fabiano who play in front of him

Messi a stiker? then whats Tevez and Higuain?

Rooney the only striker in that list has 25 goals in 64 games while Torres- 24 goals in 80 appearances.

Maradona was a support striker in 94.
He was never a central midfielder. . . . .Go and watch your tapes again.

Sneijder plays in the same position - how come Sneijder has 5 goals to his name and Messi has none?

Rubbish talks. . . . .

Kaka won the UCL golden boot in 2007 playing in the same position.
He had Inzaghi in front of him.

Argentina played 4-3-3 mostly which makes Messi a striker.
Your fantasy league shoulda told you that.

It's the same thang. . . . . . .
The last time Messi scored a goal in a competitive game for Argentina was March 2009.
Yet, the same Messi scored close to 50 goals in Barcelona playing in the wide position.

frankcimc:

After all the predict Spain finally carry the day, Go Spain, Go Puyol, Go great team with winning spirit.

Don't let them go for too long.

As they'll get knocked out by Netherlands on sunday.