pazienza:


Nigeria has never been a non Igbo thing. Igbos were involved in Nigeria from the very beginning.

The SS have no interest in your referendum. Are you that tyrannical to want to force it on them. You don't represent them, and have no right to call for referendum for them, when they have no interest for such.

Why is this hard for you to grasp?

You are not making any sense. 80% of what you call South/SOUTH were also part of Biafra from the start. Are we also to deny that a significant part of the South/South is made up of Igbos/Igboids and Igbo speaking people? And when you say that they are not interested in referendum, do you also speak for them? How can you say that people are being forced into something when crux of the matter is the democratic instrument of a referendum for everyone to decide where they want to be? Go to YouTube, you will see Ibibios carrying Biafran flags asking for Biafra, same goes for Ikwerre, Ogonis and others.

Pekele007:

Was anyone holding you with chains before Do you know we have Igbo speaking communities in this same South south


Asari Dokubo said he is a bonafide Biafran, was he forced.


I'm Igbo and I don't totally support the idea of Biafra at least for now.

One rich corrupt former Niger delta militant support Biafra does not mean Niger delta people want it too

Buhariislifeles:


Shut up Kanu and Biafra are bigger than Atiku. No Referendum, No election

Speak for yourself amd your family.Anamvra is voting.

Let IPOB redraw the Biafran map and make it all Igbo speaking nation. I'm sure some of the tribes in the so called ss will wish to join for the fear of fulani and hijab. The insult is getting too much.igbos and igboland are big enough to be a country even bigger and more populated than many countries in the world. Let's concentrate on igbo only country and make sure that no inch of igboland is ceded to any one be it niger delta or Nigeria. You cannot be shouting south south can never join biafra that biafra is for the igbos, at the same time you want igbos in ss to join niger delta or whatever.

Lol SS will disappoint you, stick to your SE/Biafra

Nnamdi kanu is a terrorist and a criminal

Ipob remain proscribed in Nigeria

Rubbish.

Pekele007:

Philip Effiong Who was Ojukwus vice is from where? London?


The old biafra map contained all this places you mentioned.

The fact is that nobody can force anyone to join Biafra.

Why do you guys keep talking about Philip Effiong?
Ever since he died, which other Akwa Ibom man has anything to do with Biafra?
Obama from Kenya became president of America, and that didn't mean everyone from Kenya is an America. Whether Effiong was a President of biafra or not, it doesn't mean we Akwa Ibom people are part of Biafra.
Take note of this: whatever Kanu told ipob/Biafrans concerning next year election will only take effect in the 5 States that makes up Igbo land.

gidgiddy:



You are not making any sense. 80% of what you call South/SOUTH were also part of Biafra from the start. Are we also to deny that a significant part of the South/South is made up of Igbos/Igboids and Igbo speaking people? And when you say that they are not interested in referendum, do you also speak for them? How can you say that people are being forced into something when crux of the matter is the democratic instrument of a referendum for everyone to decide where they want to be? Go to YouTube, you will see Ibibios carrying Biafran flags asking for Biafra, same goes for Ikwerre, Ogonis and others.

100% of what you call Biafra were also part of Nigeria from the start.
Those Igbo speaking groups in SS don't like you. The Ogba, Ikwerre, Etche, Ekpeye, they hate your Igbo guts, they rejected your Igbo tag. They denounced being called Igbo, they insist they are in no way related to Igbo, they have official stories of being descendants of Bini princes and Kings? Have you visited those places before? I doubt you have, if you do, you will know that an Ikwerre man is Naturally Igbophobic, he calls you Ele Isoma, and in a condescending manner, he doesn't recognize any sense of kinship with Ndiigbo, you can go listen to Ogbakor Ikwerre official opinion, it's Igbophobic.
The Ogba dont sell land to Igbos, that's how much they hate you. They claim to be from Bini too.
The Ekpeye are same. Likewise Etche. If you are planning to add them to your map, the least you can do is visit these places and see how much the people resent you, but you wouldn't, you stay in the comfort of your rooms and keep on drawing useless Maps, embarrassing Ndiigbo, are you not ashamed of yourselves already?

Which Ibibios are carrying Biafra flags? One in a billion. Are there not Igbos carrying Nigerian flags? Yet we know they are inconsequential minority. How do we know this, we did a sit at home for Biafra and all SE cities complied. Did Uyo comply? Nope. Uyo, Ikot Ekpene, Eket went about their business. They don't relate to your Biafra, 1 in a million of them supporting your Biafra cannot represent them, I'm sure you know this.

They don't want your referendum, restrict it to Igboland, the message is clear, they are not Biafrans. You don't see Catalonians trying to force the people of Basque to be involved in their own referendum?

Move on already.

toofit007:
that is why he said that referendum will be conducted throughout the whole of old eastern region. So you are entitled to your opinion so when the time come you can vote for Nigeria while I voted for Biafra... If yes for Nigeria is more than no for Biafra we stay, it is very simple.

please who will conduct refelendum? is it Nigeria govt?israel or kanu ?

To add to the debate on this thread:

I am an Urhobo man from the South South and it is laughable that Nnamdi Kanu arrogates to himself, the position of our spokesman. Who is he to declare what we do or who we are in the South South?

I do acknowledge that we have pockets of indigenous Igbos in the South-South, especially in Delta North, as well as neglible parts of Rivers and Cross River State where the people wholly agree that they are Igbo. However, these Igbo populations are not enough for anyone to lump the fate of the South South with the South East.

The irony of the situation is that, asides the limited Igbo areas of the South South, other Niger Deltans look at the Igbo in exactly the same light as they do the Hausa and Yorubas (in the light of majority oppression & imposition). The message that the Igbos keep sending online and elsewhere consolidates the strong distrust that many South Southerners have for them.

Let us all learn to face our struggles without dragging other groups into them. Every group has the right to dictate its future but never try to impose your goals on others. No one made Igbos the Noah of Southern Nigeria!

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pazienza:


How can Igbo not be part of Nigeria, When the first president of Nigeria was Igbo, by the name Nnamdi Azikiwe?
I hope you can now see how your logic is flawed. You can't tell a people what they want to be identified by.

Seriously, are you Igbos incapable of rational and objective reasoning or what?

What's wrong with you guys. Why are you lots hel bent on bringing Shame, embarssment and disgrace to Ndiigbo?

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Who created nigeria? Luggard

Who suggested the name Biafra? An Ijaw man

awgumayor:
Let IPOB redraw the Biafran map and make it all Igbo speaking nation. I'm sure some of the tribes in the so called ss will wish to join for the fear of fulani and hijab. The insult is getting too much.igbos and igboland are big enough to be a country even bigger and more populated than many countries in the world. Let's concentrate on igbo only country and make sure that no inch of igboland is ceded to any one be it niger delta or Nigeria. You cannot be shouting south south can never join biafra that biafra is for the igbos, at the same time you want igbos in ss to join niger delta or whatever.

Biafra is the 5 south east states, and there is nothing Nnamdi Kanu or u can do about it. No inch of south south will by claimed by the south east in the name of a few igbos leaving there

pazienza:


100% of what you call Biafra were also part of Nigeria from the start.
Those Igbo speaking groups in SS don't like you. The Ogba, Ikwerre, Etche, Ekpeye, they hate your Igbo guts, they rejected your Igbo tag. They denounced being called Igbo, they insist they are in no way related to Igbo, they have official stories of being descendants of Bini princes and Kings? Have you visited those places before? I doubt you have, if you do, you will know that an Ikwerre man is Naturally Igbophobic, he calls you Ele Isoma, and in a condescending manner, he doesn't recognize any sense of kinship with Ndiigbo, you can go listen to Ogbakor Ikwerre official opinion, it's Igbophobic.
The Ogba dont sell land to Igbos, that's how much they hate you. They claim to be from Bini too.
The Ekpeye are same. Likewise Etche. If you are planning to add them to your map, the least you can do is visit these places and see how much the people resent you, but you wouldn't, you stay in the comfort of your rooms and keep on drawing useless Maps, embarrassing Ndiigbo, are you not ashamed of yourselves already?

Which Ibibios are carrying Biafra flags? One in a billion. Are there not Igbos carrying Nigerian flags? Yet we know they are inconsequential minority. How do we know this, we did a sit at home for Biafra and all SE cities complied. Did Uyo comply? Nope. Uyo, Ikot Ekpene, Eket went about their business. They don't relate to your Biafra, 1 in a million of them supporting your Biafra cannot represent them, I'm sure you know this.

They don't want your referendum, restrict it to Igboland, the message is clear, they are not Biafrans. You don't see Catalonians trying to force the people of Basque to be involved in their own referendum?

Move on already.

Who started what from the start, by what percentage, is not the main issue here. Self determination is all about going into a union with other people then deciding at a later date that you want to exit the union. This is constitutional right.

The issue here is not wether Etche or Ogba or Ikwerre love or hate Igbos. That is immaterial since Biafra is not a "Igbo project". We are already in a Nigeria where Igbo/Yoruba/Hausa have no special love for each other. The issue is who wants to be independent of the failed state called Nigeria. An Ijaw man can hate Igbos all he likes but if given the choice of exiting Nigeria with Igbos and staying back in Nigeria where 80% of his oil wealth is in the hands of Northerners, what would he choose? Biafra is all about having common interests. Ijawland can never be independent without Igbos and Igbos have a better chance at independence if Ijaws and the rest of the SS are on board. At the end of the day, everyone will still have the chance to decide what they want via referendum.

KANUISALIVE:
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Who created nigeria? Luggard

Who suggested the name Biafra? An Ijaw man

Biafra is a Portuguese word. There was a bight of Biafra named so by the Portuguese.

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pazienza:


100% of what you call Biafra were also part of Nigeria from the start.
Those Igbo speaking groups in SS don't like you. The Ogba, Ikwerre, Etche, Ekpeye, they hate your Igbo guts, they rejected your Igbo tag. They denounced being called Igbo, they insist they are in no way related to Igbo, they have official stories of being descendants of Bini princes and Kings? Have you visited those places before? I doubt you have, if you do, you will know that an Ikwerre man is Naturally Igbophobic, he calls you Ele Isoma, and in a condescending manner, he doesn't recognize any sense of kinship with Ndiigbo, you can go listen to Ogbakor Ikwerre official opinion, it's Igbophobic.
The Ogba dont sell land to Igbos, that's how much they hate you. They claim to be from Bini too.
The Ekpeye are same. Likewise Etche. If you are planning to add them to your map, the least you can do is visit these places and see how much the people resent you, but you wouldn't, you stay in the comfort of your rooms and keep on drawing useless Maps, embarrassing Ndiigbo, are you not ashamed of yourselves already?

Which Ibibios are carrying Biafra flags? One in a billion. Are there not Igbos carrying Nigerian flags? Yet we know they are inconsequential minority. How do we know this, we did a sit at home for Biafra and all SE cities complied. Did Uyo comply? Nope. Uyo, Ikot Ekpene, Eket went about their business. They don't relate to your Biafra, 1 in a million of them supporting your Biafra cannot represent them, I'm sure you know this.

They don't want your referendum, restrict it to Igboland, the message is clear, they are not Biafrans. You don't see Catalonians trying to force the people of Basque to be involved in their own referendum?

Move on already.

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Rubbish, a british man named Nigeria and an Ijaw man suggested the name Biafra

victorvezx:

Biafra is a Portuguese word. There was a bight of Biafra named so by the Portuguese.

Get me correct and don't be in a rush.

A british man after having sex with his LovePeddler was drunk gave the name nigeria

A council of elder asked for a name for there dear nation and an Ijaw man suggested the name Biafra, which was coined out of the Bight of Biafra

Use your head

gidgiddy:


Who started what from the start, by what percentage, is not the main issue here. Self determination is all about going into a union with other people then deciding at a later date that you want to exit the union. This is constitutional right.

The issue here is not wether Etche or Ogba or Ikwerre love or hate Igbos. That is immaterial since Biafra is not a "Igbo project". We are already in a Nigeria where Igbo/Yoruba/Hausa have no special love for each other. The issue is who wants to be independent of the failed state called Nigeria. An Ijaw man can hate Igbos all he likes but if given the choice of exiting Nigeria with Igbos and staying back in Nigeria where 80% of his oil wealth is in the hands of Northerners, what would he choose? Biafra is all about having common interests. Ijawland can never be independent without Igbos and Igbos have a better chance at independence if Ijaws and the rest of the SS are on board. At the end of the day, everyone will still have the chance to decide what they want via referendum.

The bone of contention here is that you have no right to call for referendum for other groups who share not in your struggles and cause. How hard is this for you to understand?
You can't call for a referendum for another group. It's not done anywhere. Doing so is an act of provocation.

Whether you like it or not, Biafra is an Igbo struggle. That's how the rest of the world see it, that's how the majority of the minorities see it now. Accept, make peace with the reality, and work with the reality, only then will you be stronger. Choose and continue to live in fantasy, and soon, Ndiigbo will ban your IPOB too.

KANUISALIVE:
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Rubbish, a british man named Nigeria and an Ijaw man suggested the name Biafra

So? Nigeria independence was led by an Igboman.

An Ijaw man named Boro fought for Nigeria against Biafra and helped Nigeria blockade Biafra. He had help from many of his Ijaw people too.
Why is this aspect of the Biafra-Ijaw history not important to you?

pazienza:


So? Nigeria independence was led by an Igboman.

An Ijaw man named Boro fought for Nigeria against Biafra and helped Nigeria blockade Biafra. He had help from many of his Ijaw people too.
Why is this aspect of the Biafra-Ijaw history not important to you?

The igboman who led the movement did that for his selfish interest but unfortunately for the Ijawman who fought for nigeria, he was killed by the same nigeria he fought for. So probably he had a selfish agenda hence his death

KANUISALIVE:


The igboman who led the movement did that for his selfish interest but unfortunately for the Ijawman who fought for nigeria, he was killed by the same nigeria he fought for. So probably he had a selfish agenda hence his death

Well, ask Ibibios and they will tell you that Effiong supported Biafra for his own selfish interests. Go to Akwaibom, they have no infrastructure named after Effiong, they don't consider him their hero.

Ask Ijaws, they will tell you that Opigo was with Biafra out of his own selfish interests. They don't celebrate Opigo, few of them even know him.
But they all celebrate Boro who fought against Biafra for Nigeria. They celebrate Adaka Boro day everyday.

Rivers State governor, Nyeso Wike recently named the Rivers state liberation stadium, after Gowon. Let it sink in. It was named after Gowon, the same Gowon that brought death to Igboland.

Since you Igbos are incapable of using your brains to think. Sensible Igbos will start doing the thinking for you guys, from now onwards. Because let's face it. The madman isn't embarrassed, it's the brothers and relatives that are embarrassed.

Restrict your referendum stance to Igboland and be more rational about your Modus operandi.

pazienza:


Well, ask Ibibios and they will tell you that Effiong supported Biafra for his own selfish interests. Go to Akwaibom, they have no infrastructure named after Effiong, they don't consider him their hero.

Ask Ijaws, they will tell you that Opigo was with Biafra out of his own selfish interests. They don't celebrate Opigo, few of them even know him.
But they all celebrate Boro who fought against Biafra for Nigeria. They celebrate Adaka Boro day everyday.

Rivers State governor, Nyeso Wike recently named the Rivers state liberation stadium, after Gowon. Let it sink in. It was named after Gowon, the same Gowon that brought death to Igboland.

Since you Igbos are incapable of using your brains to think. Sensible Igbos will start doing the thinking for you guys, from now onwards. Because let's face it. The madman isn't embarrassed, it's the brothers and relatives that are embarrassed.

Restrict your referendum stance to Igboland and be more rational about your Modus operandi.

Oga no referendum no election in biafraland

Who knows you might have collect 3k from some of those politicians

pazienza:


The bone of contention here is that you have no right to call for referendum for other groups who share not in your struggles and cause. How hard is this for you to understand?
You can't call for a referendum for another group. It's not done anywhere. Doing so is an act of provocation.

Whether you like it or not, Biafra is an Igbo struggle. That's how the rest of the world see it, that's how the majority of the minorities see it now. Accept, make peace with the reality, and work with the reality, only then will you be stronger. Choose and continue to live in fantasy, and soon, Ndiigbo will ban your IPOB too.

Let me try simplify this for you. When Herbert Macaulay, Zik and Eyo Ita kick started the independence of Nigeria from Britain, in the kate 30's, what right did Zik have to be asking for independence for Yorubas, Hausas, Ijaws etc? What right did Macaulay have, as a Yoruba man, to ask for the independence of Beroms, Kanuris and Ogonis?

Going by your logic, Zik should only have fought of Igbo independence , Macaulay should have only fought for Yoruba independence and Eyo Ita should have only fought for Calabar independence. But these people knew that uniting to fight for Nigerian independence gave them a better chance.

Independence is not always based on one ethnic group, it can be multi-ethnic. IPOB'S OWN struggle is multi-ethnic. I was listening to radio Biafra 2 days ago and it was broadcasted in every language from Ogoni to Ibibio to Uhrobo. I didn't even know what they were saying but I could see that it was in support of Biafra.

[gidgiddy

Let me try simplify this for you. When Herbert Macaulay, Zik and Eyo Ita kick started the independence of Nigeria from Britain, in the kate 30's, what right did Zik have to be asking for independence for Yorubas, Hausas, Ijaws etc? What right did Macaulay have, as a Yoruba man, to ask for the independence of Beroms, Kanuris and Ogonis?

Exactly my point. When Nnamdi Kanu go about asking for referendum for Igbophobic groups in SS, what right does he have to do so? Did they send him to ask for referendum for them? Even after these groups had come out officially to castigate and berate NK for asking for referendum on their behalf, why is NK and IPOB still doing this? Don't you see this as provocative?

Going by your logic, Zik should only have fought of Igbo independence , Macaulay should have only fought for Yoruba independence and Eyo Ita should have only fought for Calabar independence. But these people knew that uniting to fight for Nigerian independence gave them a better chance.

They all wanted independence from Nigeria and they formed union to do so. Zik didn't go on his own to start seeking for independence for everyone. Zik was acting based on the happenings in Aba(Igboland) and Eyo on Ibibio people, who had shown solidarity to this Independence cause by the Aba women and Ibibio women riots against colonial taxes.
They were acting according to the yearnings of their people.

Now, narrow this home. Are Ibibio, Ijaw, Urhobo, etc people protesting for Biafra and referendum against Nigeria in their homelands?
Nope!

Independence is not always based on one ethnic group, it can be multi-ethnic. IPOB'S OWN struggle is multi-ethnic. I was listening to radio Biafra 2 days ago and it was broadcasted in every language from Ogoni to Ibibio to Uhrobo. I didn't even know what they were saying but I could see that it was in support of Biafra.

Independence is based on what a group of people want. Few Ibibios , Ogoni calling in to support Biafra means nothing.
What matters is what the majority of their people back home are saying.
Do the majority of SS people back home support your Biafra and call for referendum on their behalf? Nope. How hard is it for you to visit their homelands to find out? Are you that shallow to sit in your room and make judgements about a people based on random phone callers to RB of Ibibio, Ogoni, etc origins.
Didn't you conduct sit at home recently? Did you bother to check if Ogonis in Bori complied to it? How about Ibibios In Uyo, Annangs In Ikot Ekpene?

If you are sincere and not being self deceiving. You will know that those places didn't comply. And there in lie your answer to what the majority of those people there think about your Biafra and call to referendum.

You Igbos are embarrassing Ndiigbo, you are by your narrow thinking, giving a bad impression about the thinking capacity of an average Igbo man. We wouldn't allow it anylonger. Expect opposition from Igboists from now onwards, until you change your ways.

Olatunji1929:
please who will conduct refelendum? is it Nigeria govt?israel or kanu ?

wait till then, it seems you are a kid because you reason like one. When elders are talking, you have to keep quiet and listen.

pazienza:


You can imagine

we south south can never be biafra.

gidgiddy:



You are not making any sense. 80% of what you call South/SOUTH were also part of Biafra from the start. Are we also to deny that a significant part of the South/South is made up of Igbos/Igboids and Igbo speaking people? And when you say that they are not interested in referendum, do you also speak for them? How can you say that people are being forced into something when crux of the matter is the democratic instrument of a referendum for everyone to decide where they want to be? Go to YouTube, you will see Ibibios carrying Biafran flags asking for Biafra, same goes for Ikwerre, Ogonis and others.

is it difficult to understand, you can not conduct lefelendum for area where they are not ready to go,
You can only conduct lefelendum for area where people are agitating for lefelendum.

buhariguy:
is it difficult to understand, you can not conduct lefelendum for area where they are not ready to go,
You can only conduct lefelendum for area where people are agitating for lefelendum.

That guy is too dull. Very typical of an Ipob tout

dlondonbadboy:
I'm coming and I am bringing hell with me...

Ohamadike!!

so you came out finally from ban.
Are you atikulating or for no lefelendum no erection.

pazienza:


Well, ask Ibibios and they will tell you that Effiong supported Biafra for his own selfish interests. Go to Akwaibom, they have no infrastructure named after Effiong, they don't consider him their hero.

Ask Ijaws, they will tell you that Opigo was with Biafra out of his own selfish interests. They don't celebrate Opigo, few of them even know him.
But they all celebrate Boro who fought against Biafra for Nigeria. They celebrate Adaka Boro day everyday.

Rivers State governor, Nyeso Wike recently named the Rivers state liberation stadium, after Gowon. Let it sink in. It was named after Gowon, the same Gowon that brought death to Igboland.

Since you Igbos are incapable of using your brains to think. Sensible Igbos will start doing the thinking for you guys, from now onwards. Because let's face it. The madman isn't embarrassed, it's the brothers and relatives that are embarrassed.

Restrict your referendum stance to Igboland and be more rational about your Modus operandi.

Oga u finish talk for this thread abeg...
Your mama born u well

gidgiddy:



Let me try simplify this for you. When Herbert Macaulay, Zik and Eyo Ita kick started the independence of Nigeria from Britain, in the kate 30's, what right did Zik have to be asking for independence for Yorubas, Hausas, Ijaws etc? What right did Macaulay have, as a Yoruba man, to ask for the independence of Beroms, Kanuris and Ogonis?

Going by your logic, Zik should only have fought of Igbo independence , Macaulay should have only fought for Yoruba independence and Eyo Ita should have only fought for Calabar independence. But these people knew that uniting to fight for Nigerian independence gave them a better chance.

Independence is not always based on one ethnic group, it can be multi-ethnic . IPOB'S OWN struggle is multi-ethnic . I was listening to radio Biafra 2 days ago and it was broadcasted in every language from Ogoni to Ibibio to Uhrobo. I didn't even know what they were saying but I could see that it was in support of Biafra.

Shut up and cry!
Multi-ethnic when the other ethnic groups are INTERESTED what's your problem sef? Ehn

pazienza:


Well, ask Ibibios and they will tell you that Effiong supported Biafra for his own selfish interests. Go to Akwaibom, they have no infrastructure named after Effiong, they don't consider him their hero.

Ask Ijaws, they will tell you that Opigo was with Biafra out of his own selfish interests. They don't celebrate Opigo, few of them even know him.
But they all celebrate Boro who fought against Biafra for Nigeria. They celebrate Adaka Boro day everyday.

Rivers State governor, Nyeso Wike recently named the Rivers state liberation stadium, after Gowon. Let it sink in. It was named after Gowon, the same Gowon that brought death to Igboland.

Since you Igbos are incapable of using your brains to think. Sensible Igbos will start doing the thinking for you guys, from now onwards. Because let's face it. The madman isn't embarrassed, it's the brothers and relatives that are embarrassed.

Restrict your referendum stance to Igboland and be more rational about your Modus operandi.

I have been reading all your comment since. it is best you use your time for something else than try to convince people who have been brainwashed. Leave them to their own devices bro.

There is a proverb that says a child who refuse to listen at hom will be taught a bitter lesson outside.