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| Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by Exceldan: 9:43pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings regarding his or her religious orientation. But judging by the actions of most Islamic nations all around the world, one thing ive seen to be common to them all is terrorism, bloodthirstiness, extremism. But funny enough other religions like budhism, Hinduism etc are not like that. So what conviction do we have that it is not a glorified terrorist practice in the guise of religion of peace? 2 Likes |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by OMNIVIRUS(m): 10:47pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
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| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by Gloriawinning: 11:00pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
I'm a Christian but Islam is truly a religion of Peace, they live peacefully amongst themselves and religion is a way of life. To answer your question, Muslim nations are that way because of how they are genetically created, when their lineage was born the bible described Ishmeal as being a tough problematic child. The generations of Ishmael till now are tough people it is good in some way but the uncivilised ones are quick to anger . Islam religion has nothing to do with terrorism, it's the individual . Muslims are better people than Pentecostals because we lack discipline. I.e in my church there are people who will judge you, look down on you, pride, gossips & greed. On the other hand Muslims will share there last resources with you and they love the Lord (Allah) more than anything. So let's respect each other's religion & not think we are better. I am a proud follower of Christ still, and I have my strong convictions. (Jesus is Lord!!) |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by Exceldan: 5:22am On Oct 22, 2018 |
I bet you will flee for your life when you hear the sudden shouting of allah huakbar by even a child in any where people are gathered but do you feel thesame at the mentioning of any other name? |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by Exceldan: 5:29am On Oct 22, 2018 |
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| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by malvisguy212: 10:33am On Oct 22, 2018 |
Gloriawinning:I don't think you are a Christian, or maby you don't understand the question, let me rephrase it again. CAN MUSLIMS LIVE IN PEACE WITH PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH THEIR BELIEVE? what is Islam understanding of Peace ? you get peace only when you accept the teaching in the Qur'an. 1 Like |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by enilove(m): 11:26am On Oct 22, 2018 |
Gloriawinning: Do you really know the meaning of the word "peace " ? Where you have like 95% Christians , you can call Jesus a fake prophet or even curse him in the church openly , no christian will kill you for it . But can you call Muhammad a fake prophet in the midst of Muslims without being slaughtered ? You can burn the Bible openly among the Christians and no one would touch you , but can you burn the Quran without being killed on the spot ? That is how to know a religion that seeks peace , pursues peace and live peaceful lives with their neighbours . The Boko haram and the killings perpetrated by the Fulani herdsmen are enough proofs for you to know that Islam is FAR and very FAR from being called a religion of peace. Even their quean hadith teach violence and hatred . |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by tartar9(m): 5:21pm On Oct 22, 2018 |
 Listed are only events that solely occurred on command of church authorities or were committed in the name of Christianity. (List incomplete) Ancient Pagans As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed. Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain. Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis. Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyer." [DA468] Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. [DA468] Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469] According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all Christian teachings..." In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights. In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities. [DA466] The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415. [DO19-25] Mission Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30] Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany. [WW223] Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235] 15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights of the Order. Victims unknown. [DO30] 16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops "pacified and civilized" Ireland, where only Gaelic "wild Irish", "unreasonable beasts lived without any knowledge of God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle, women, children and every other thing." One of the more successful soldiers, a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that "the heddes of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were killed in the daie, should be cutte off from their bodies... and should bee laied on the ground by eche side of the waie", which effort to civilize the Irish indeed caused "greate terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of their dedde fathers, brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde". Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage. [SH99, 225] Crusades (1095-1291) First Crusade: 1095 on command of pope Urban II. [WW11-41] Semlin/Hungary 6/24/96 thousands slain. Wieselburg/Hungary 6/12/96 thousands. [WW23] 9/9/96-9/26/96 Nikaia, Xerigordon (then turkish), thousands respectively. [WW25-27] Until Jan 1098 a total of 40 capital cities and 200 castles conquered (number of slain unknown) [WW30] after 6/3/98 Antiochia (then turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000 slain. 6/28/98 100,000 Turks (incl. women & children) killed. [WW32-35] Here the Christians "did no other harm to the women found in [the enemy's] tents—save that they ran their lances through their bellies," according to Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres. [EC60] Marra (Maraat an-numan) 12/11/98 thousands killed. Because of the subsequent famine "the already stinking corpses of the enemies were eaten by the Christians" said chronicler Albert Aquensis. [WW36] Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (jewish, muslim, men, women, children). [WW37-40] (In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes", and after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour's tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude"  The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished." [TG79] Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer in all of palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition". One million victims of the first crusade alone. [WW41] Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ". [WW45] Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian. [WW141-148] Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably 20 million victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas alone). [WW224] Note: All figures according to contemporary (Christian) chroniclers. Heretics Already in 385 C.E. the first Christians, the Spanish Priscillianus and six followers, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany [DO26] Manichaean heresy: a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice birth control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics) was exterminated in huge campaigns all over the Roman empire between 372 C.E. and 444 C.E. Numerous thousands of victims. [NC] Albigensians: the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians. [DO29] The Albigensians...viewed themselves as good Christians, but would not accept roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control. [NC] Begin of violence: on command of pope Innocent III (greatest single pre-nazi mass murderer) in 1209. Bezirs (today France) 7/22/1209 destroyed, all the inhabitants were slaughtered. Victims (including Catholics refusing to turn over their heretic neighbours and friends) 20,000-70,000. [WW179-181] Carcassonne 8/15/1209, thousands slain. Other cities followed. [WW181] subsequent 20 years of war until nearly all Cathars (probably half the population of the Languedoc, today southern France) were exterminated. [WW183] After the war ended (1229) the Inquisition was founded 1232 to search and destroy surviving/hiding heretics. Last Cathars burned at the stake 1324. [WW183] Estimated one million victims (cathar heresy alone), [WW183] Other heresies: Waldensians, Paulikians, Runcarians, Josephites, and many others. Most of these sects exterminated, (I believe some Waldensians live today, yet they had to endure 600 years of persecution) I estimate at least hundred thousand victims (including the Spanish inquisition but excluding victims in the New World). Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada alone allegedly responsible for 10,220 burnings. [DO28] John Huss, a critic of papal infallibility and indulgences, was burned at the stake in 1415. [LI475-522] University professor B.Hubmaier burned at the stake 1538 in Vienna. [DO59] Giordano Bruno, Dominican monk, after having been incarcerated for seven years, was burned at the stake for heresy on the Campo dei Fiori (Rome) on 2/17/1600. Witches from the beginning of Christianity to 1484 probably more than several thousand. in the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars several hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or hanged. [WV] incomplete list of documented cases: The Burning of Witches - A Chronicle of the Burning Times Religious Wars 15th century: Crusades against Hussites, thousands slain. [DO30] 1538 pope Paul III declared Crusade against apostate England and all English as slaves of Church (fortunately had not power to go into action). [DO31] 1568 Spanish Inquisition Tribunal ordered extermination of 3 million rebels in (then Spanish) Netherlands. Thousands were actually slain. [DO31] 1572 In France about 20,000 Huguenots were killed on command of pope Pius V. Until 17th century 200,000 flee. [DO31] 17th century: Catholics slay Gaspard de Coligny, a Protestant leader. After murdering him, the Catholic mob mutilated his body, "cutting off his head, his hands, and his genitals... and then dumped him into the river [...but] then, deciding that it was not worthy of being food for the fish, they hauled it out again [... and] dragged what was left ... to the gallows of Montfaulcon, 'to be meat and carrion for maggots and crows'." [SH191] 17th century: Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/Germany: roughly 30,000 Protestants were slain. "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded," reported poet Friedrich Schiller, "and infants still sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers." [SH19 17th century 30 years' war (Catholic vs. Protestant): at least 40% of population decimated, mostly in Germany. [DO31-32] 1 Like 2 Shares |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by enilove(m): 5:27pm On Oct 22, 2018 |
tartar9: Tartar means a "baby " in Igbo language . That is , your moniker is actually affecting you. 1 Like |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by mujahid777(m): 5:31pm On Oct 22, 2018 |
20th Century Church Atrocities Catholic extermination camps Surpisingly few know that Nazi extermination camps in World War II were by no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years 1942-1943 also in Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by Catholic Ustasha under their dictator Ante Paveli, a practising Catholic and regular visitor to the then pope. There were even concentration camps exclusively for children! In these camps - the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a Franciscan friar - orthodox-Christian serbians (and a substantial number of Jews) were murdered. Like the Nazis the Catholic Ustasha burned their victims in kilns, alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first). But most of the victims were simply stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi "Sicherheitsdient der SS", watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV] Catholic terror in Vietnam In 1954 Vietnamese freedom fighters - the Viet Minh - had finally defeated the French colonial government in North Vietnam, which by then had been supported by U.S. funds amounting to more than $2 billion. Although the victorious assured religious freedom to all (most non-buddhist Vietnamese were Catholics), due to huge anticommunist propaganda campaigns many Catholics fled to the South. With the help of Catholic lobbies in Washington and Cardinal Spellman, the Vatican's spokesman in U.S. politics, who later on would call the U.S. forces in Vietnam "Soldiers of Christ", a scheme was concocted to prevent democratic elections which could have brought the communist Viet Minh to power in the South as well, and the fanatic Catholic Ngo Dinh Diem was made president of South Vietnam. [MW16ff] Diem saw to it that U.S. aid, food, technical and general assistance was given to Catholics alone, Buddhist individuals and villages were ignored or had to pay for the food aids which were given to Catholics for free. The only religious denomination to be supported was Roman Catholicism. The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read: "Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp." Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and monks were imprisoned in "detention camps." Out of protest dozens of buddhist teachers - male and female - and monks poured gasoline over themselves and burned themselves. (Note that Buddhists burned themselves: in comparison Christians tend to burn others). Meanwhile some of the prison camps, which in the meantime were filled with Protestant and even Catholic protesters as well, had turned into no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps. [MW76-89]. To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of American GI's lost their life.... Rwanda Massacres In 1994 in the small african country of Rwanda in just a few months several hundred thousand civilians were butchered, apparently a conflict of the Hutu and Tutsi ethnic groups. For quite some time I heard only rumours about Catholic clergy actively involved in the 1994 Rwanda massacres. Odd denials of involvement were printed in Catholic church journals, before even anybody had openly accused members of the church. Then, 10/10/96, in the newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany - a station not at all critical to Christianity - the following was stated: "Anglican as well as Catholic priests and nuns are suspect of having actively participated in murders. Especially the conduct of a certain Catholic priest has been occupying the public mind in Rwanda's capital Kigali for months. He was minister of the church of the Holy Family and allegedly murdered Tutsis in the most brutal manner. He is reported to have accompanied marauding Hutu militia with a gun in his cowl. In fact there has been a bloody slaughter of Tutsis seeking shelter in his parish. Even two years after the massacres many Catholics refuse to set foot on the threshold of their church, because to them the participation of a certain part of the clergy in the slaughter is well established. There is almost no church in Rwanda that has not seen refugees - women, children, old - being brutally butchered facing the crucifix. According to eyewitnesses clergymen gave away hiding Tutsis and turned them over to the machetes of the Hutu militia. In connection with these events again and again two Benedictine nuns are mentioned, both of whom have fled into a Belgian monastery in the meantime to avoid prosecution. According to survivors one of them called the Hutu killers and led them to several thousand people who had sought shelter in her monastery. By force the doomed were driven out of the churchyard and were murdered in the presence of the nun right in front of the gate. The other one is also reported to have directly cooperated with the murderers of the Hutu militia. In her case again witnesses report that she watched the slaughtering of people in cold blood and without showing response. She is even accused of having procured some petrol used by the killers to set on fire and burn their victims alive..." [S2] As can be seen from these events, to Christianity the Dark Ages never come to an end... 2 Likes |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by plainbibletruth: 6:26pm On Oct 22, 2018 |
Tartar9 and mujahid777: There are simple questions for you - 'Is there anywhere the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, advocated VIOLENCE against others because of their faith? On the other hand are there places where the Koran and the hadiths, called for violence against others simply because they believed in a different God? Justifying Islam's negatives because you think others do the same should tell you that Islam has not risen above primitive tendencies. So, if Islam is not better than other religions, and there are many things to show that it is terrorism in disguise, why should any sensible person choose it? 2 Likes |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by Exceldan: 9:49pm On Oct 22, 2018 |
Maybe it depends on their definition of peace. If not study the koran thoroughly and you will see that even the founder of islam is not a moral or upright person worthy of emulating his lifestyle 1 Like |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by budaatum: 11:00pm On Oct 22, 2018 |
malvisguy212:Not all Muslims are terrorists, just as not all pastors are crooks. If you come to the Orolu Kingdom, or go to lots of other places, you'd see millions of Muslims living in peace with Christians, Pagans, atheist and mad people. There's even lots of families that have mixtures of them in the same house. I have cousins, five girls, 3 of them are burqa wearers and two are Redeemers. They grew up in the same bedroom without blowing up anyone. Like in everything, there's bad apples. 1 Like |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by tartar9(m): 5:31pm On Oct 23, 2018 |
plainbibletruth:We(I) stated no inferences did we? Don't argue with us but rather with the moronic Op.He's the one saying xtianity is terrorism. |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by plainbibletruth: 6:30pm On Oct 23, 2018 |
tartar9:Let’s compare few words of Mohamed, Allah and Koran with that of Jesus. A: “Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do”, (Luke: 23:34 “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out,” (Koran: 2.191) B: “If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also” (Matthew: 5.39) “I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers;” (Koran:8.12) “For he who insults you (Muhammad) will be cut off” (Koran: 108.3). C: “Love your enemies and pray those who persecute you” (Matthew: 5.44) “If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost’ (Koran: 3.85) “And know that whatever ye take as spoils of war, lo! a fifth thereof is for Allah, and for the messenger and for the kinsman (who hath need)” (Koran: 8.41) “How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them” (Koran: 7.4) It is clear from the above who stood for peace and who did not. It is clear who expressed MERCY through and through and who did not. Moslem apologists rather than face the issues usually will resort to DEFLECTION. Instead of taking the issues raised they will bring up other extraneous matters in order to muddle up things. However, to the discerning the TRUE PICTURE can be easily seen and the right decisions made. 1 Like |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by Exceldan: 6:31am On Oct 24, 2018 |
budaatum: But o religion has created and harbored more terrorists as islam. Sorry i think there is a word called Islamophobia has any other religion been attached with phobia? |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by Exceldan: 6:31am On Oct 24, 2018 |
budaatum: But o religion has created and harbored more terrorists as islam. Sorry i think there is a word called Islamophobia has any other religion been attached with phobia? [quote][/quote] |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by Exceldan: 6:33am On Oct 24, 2018 |
budaatum: But no religion has created and harbored more terrorists as islam. Sorry i think there is a word called Islamophobia has any other religion been attached with phobia? [quote][/quote] |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by budaatum: 11:02am On Oct 24, 2018 |
I wonder if you shouldn't be comparing the Quran with the Bible itself, let's see if the God's themself were terrorists! plainbibletruth: |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by CAPSLOCKED: 11:27am On Oct 24, 2018 |
plainbibletruth: YOU'RE WELCOME.  2 Likes 1 Share
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| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by budaatum: 11:36am On Oct 24, 2018 |
Exceldan:Yes, actually. Both Judaism and Christianity have terrorised people, it's just that personal bias in the West does not allow one to admit it. Go to the West Bank and witness modern day Judaic terrorism. They had an election, voted for Hamas, and have been on lockdown since. If Muslims did that to people we cared about, we would be screaming our heads off. Also go look at what Saudi Arabia is doing in Yemen for comparison though. Of course the West dare not say anything because, as Trump recently said after they dismembered Khashoggi, "Our arms industry!" "Our jobs!" Bloody hypocrites! In Myanmar, Muslims, have been killed, raped and tortured, their homes, shops and mosques burned down, and 700,000 Muslim Rohingyas have been forced to flee across the border to Bangladesh, a Muslim country. They are predominantly Buddhists in Myanmar. Their leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, won a Nobel Peace Prize in 91, yet today, she is the leader of Myanmar, terrorising her people! Then there's Bush's war against terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya, to name a few. Those wars should be against the leaders of those countries, and not against the common people on the street, but what Bush and co did was the equivalent of dropping bombs on the citizens of Nigeria for the atrocities brought about by our leaders! Are the citizens not victims of their bad leaders too? And would we not call Bush and co, terrorists if they dropped bombs on us? But we don't, since we could hardly be calling those we share a religions n with, terrorists! Most people have bought into the phobias that you mention, but if they could just be rational and use their brains, they would understand that they are simply being manipulated into irrational fear. The truth is that Muslims in our own Northern Nigeria, for instance, are the most terrorised and oppressed citizens in our nation, but many have been programmed to believe those poor oppressed citizens are the oppressors, and the aboki selling stuff right outside your gate is willing to blow you up! Trust me, if that were true, he would have done it by now. If fact, I don't believe you even believe he is a terrorist, or what the heck are you doing eating that suya you bought in Sabo just yesterday!? |
| Re: Is There Any Fact To Prove Islam Is Not Terrorism In Disguise by plainbibletruth: 12:42pm On Nov 03, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED: Simple a-b-c explanation for you here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJmd3KrGeYE |
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