mekaboy:
[s]So here is the game, say that power will return to the SW, get igbos, SS, North central to vote against buhari.

Then Atiku does his job in the North, then Tinubu adds the SW votes.
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Buhari is back to daura.

quickberry:
Dumb analysis

PointB:
The Op is unto something there.
Actually it makes sense for Tinubu for Tinubu to support Atiku, and work for his victory.

It's just Buhari's first term and from every indication he and his inner caucus hardly don't respect or regard Tinubu. Apart from perhaps Osibanjo's nomination, what exactly was Tinubu (and Osibanjo) able to influence in this administration? If he couldn't influence much in Buhari's first term, what guarantee does he have he will be able to do so in the second term.

Against Buhari, Osibanjo and other party big-wigs' will, Tinubu refused to endorse or support Ambode to continue as Lagos State. He carefully selected his own man. This is indicative of a man not hedging his bets.

Beside, a history of business relationship between Tinubu and Atiku is already established. Knowing Tinubu's penchant to work for financial gain, a betting man would put his money in Tinubu codedly working for Atiku.

Whatever Buhari's camp promised Tinubu is the past wasn't kept; any promised made him in future will likely meet same fate.

I reckon that Tinubu's main challenge now will be how to pull this off without it been so obvious. All eyes are on him, and documents are being dusted to use in keeping him in check. Either way, his power is being whithered.

I wouldn't want to be in his shoes now.

shukuokukobambi:


I admire the power of your imagination. Who knows, you could be right.

Now can you apply this same power to the possibility that Nyesom Wike could be working for Buhari's reelection? Considering the fact that he was openly against Atiku infact more antagonistic than some APC people

PointB:


I'm not sure Atiku has broken any promised made to Wike. Me think though that Wike probably loaths Buhari more that he does Atiku. Atiku is a 'reasonable' man. Same cannot be said for Buhari.

What I expect Wike to do is to extract as much concession from Atiku as possible. Atiku could make those concession and maybe or not keep them. Personally, I don't know if Atiku is they type that breaks his promises.

This would only be established during his first term.

PointB:
The Op is unto something there.
Actually it makes sense for Tinubu to support Atiku, and work for his victory.

It's just Buhari's first term and from every indication he and his inner caucus hardly respect or regard Tinubu. Apart from perhaps Osibanjo's nomination, what exactly was Tinubu (and Osibanjo) able to influence in this administration? If he couldn't influence much in Buhari's first term, what guarantee does he have he will be able to do so in the second term.

Against Buhari, Osibanjo and other party big-wigs' will, Tinubu refused to endorse or support Ambode to continue as Lagos State. He carefully selected his own man. This is indicative of a man not hedging his bets.

Beside, a history of business relationship between Tinubu and Atiku is already established. Knowing Tinubu's penchant to work for financial gain, a betting man would put his money in Tinubu codedly working for Atiku.

Whatever Buhari's camp promised Tinubu is the past wasn't kept; any promised made him in future will likely meet same fate.

I reckon that Tinubu's main challenge now will be how to pull this off without it been so obvious. All eyes are on him, and documents are being dusted to use in keeping him in check. Either way, his power is being whithered.

I wouldn't want to be in his shoes now.

shukuokukobambi:


Well, Wike didn't hide his disdain for Atiku before the primaries. He didn't hide his annoyance that Atiku was planning to beseige the delegates by buying up hotel spaces in PH. He didn't hide the fact that Atiku's restructuring mantra was all a ruse. All these he said openly on a TV interview and well reported by newspapers.

Politicians are nothing without self interest and Ekweremadu's experience has shown that promissory notes are useless with Atiku so whats stopping Wike from playing both sides? After all, it's all about interest

shukuokukobambi:


Well, Wike didn't hide his disdain for Atiku before the primaries. He didn't hide his annoyance that Atiku was planning to beseige the delegates by buying up hotel spaces in PH. He didn't hide the fact that Atiku's restructuring mantra was all a ruse. All these he said openly on a TV interview and well reported by newspapers.

Politicians are nothing without self interest and Ekweremadu's experience has shown that promissory notes are useless with Atiku so whats stopping Wike from playing both sides? After all, it's all about interest

PointB:


Wike is a politician, he will negotiate. Provided there is no history of failed promises between them.

mekaboy:


He was against those that left taking over. But he fought the party to ensure that the primaries took place in rivers to boost the economy. He will still work with Atiku .

PointB:
The Op is unto something there.
Actually it makes sense for Tinubu to support Atiku, and work for his victory.

It's just Buhari's first term and from every indication he and his inner caucus hardly respect or regard Tinubu. Apart from perhaps Osibanjo's nomination, what exactly was Tinubu (and Osibanjo) able to influence in this administration? If he couldn't influence much in Buhari's first term, what guarantee does he have he will be able to do so in the second term.

Against Buhari, Osibanjo and other party big-wigs' will, Tinubu refused to endorse or support Ambode to continue as Lagos State. He carefully selected his own man. This is indicative of a man not hedging his bets.

Beside, a history of business relationship between Tinubu and Atiku is already established. Knowing Tinubu's penchant to work for financial gain, a betting man would put his money in Tinubu codedly working for Atiku.

Whatever Buhari's camp promised Tinubu is the past wasn't kept; any promised made him in future will likely meet same fate.

I reckon that Tinubu's main challenge now will be how to pull this off without it been so obvious. All eyes are on him, and documents are being dusted to use in keeping him in check. Either way, his power is being whithered.

I wouldn't want to be in his shoes now.

shukuokukobambi:


So you think it's because of the economy that Wike aggressively attacked Atiku in a well publicised interview? If he was against those that left, then why support Tambuwal, a speaker who decamped and seriously weakened PDP? You also think it's national interest that made Ekweremadu become a sulking baby since Peter Obi was announced?

He truly might work with Atiku but what will stop him working with Buhari?

mekaboy:


Anything is possible. But I know Wike is loyal to patience jonathan, and won't let them down. Unless Jonathan works for buhari too. It's because of amechis disrespect that wike is at war with him.

shukuokukobambi:


And you think he won't negotiate with Buhari too?

PointB:


Does Buhari appear to you like a 'reasonable' man?

shukuokukobambi:


Really? You've negotiated with him before to know that? As 'unreasonable' as Abacha was, do I need to enumerate and name the political leaders from every tribe who were pushing life presidency for him?

PointB:


Good luck negotiating with Buhari, and believing in his promises.

shukuokukobambi:


Did you read all the 'nice' things OBJ said about Atiku in his book? Particularly those that have to do with fidelity?

Ekweremadu just discovered how 'valuable' Atiku's promises are

PointB:


Did you remember to take a pinch of salt when going through Obj's submissions?

shukuokukobambi:


Oh really? What about his open letter to Buhari? Or even all he's said about Buhari? Would I need a pinch or a bag of salt?

PointB:


O yes you should. Obj is surely not an epitome of credibility. Or...?

shukuokukobambi:


And you think he won't negotiate with Buhari too?