hermesprogidy:


Do pray tell, when did Obama say this? and are you saying no jobs were created under 8years of Obama?

On June 1st 2016


President Obama hit presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump for not detailing the ways in which he plans to accomplish certain goals.

During a PBS town hall that aired Wednesday, Obama referenced Trump's promise to bring back jobs to the United States when talking about manufacturing.

"Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There's no answer to it," Obama said.

"He just says, 'Well, I'm going to negotiate a better deal.' Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn't have an answer."



You've been supporting Obama and his punishing/yelling Hillary without following what they say.

I shall feed you more. Hillary recently said all Blacks look the same. Isn't that racism?

Mklanceee:

Yoruba Muslim are confused people. they only became Democrats by chance. they have no choice since Trump is cracking down on illegal migrant and Muslim terrorist countries

I don die. But that is the truth.

Mklanceee:

he was only focus on blackmailing African leaders into his devilish agenda. Trump is the best president for Africa because he leave us alone to solve our problems in our own way. Obama promise us peace be he end up turning the world into a war zone and a heaven for terrorist

Instead of bringing strategies to get something good get done in Africa, he was busy with his Agenda. Well he's made it difficult for African Americans to win Elections. Because they voted him in and he messed up!

Temple1288:


Instead of bringing strategies to get something good get done in Africa, he was busy with his Agenda. Well he's made it difficult for African Americans to win Elections. Because they voted him in and he messed up!

look at what he did to the once booming economy of Lybia. he aided terrorist ,hiding behind human rights . he turned Yemen, Syria, Somalia and Iraq into battle ground because of his quest to influence how the world think. thank God you can only do two terms of not Obama would taken us to another world war

dancewith:
Clearly most do not understand what the US mid term elections mean when they claim the republicans had won the Senate. Yes they did but consider these factors

Only 33 seats of the Senate's 100 seats are up for the mid term elections . Meaning the republicans won 18 of those and the democrats 15. Also note that most of the 33 seats are in the republicans major strong holds

The entire 435 seats of The house are up for elections meaning the entire country voted for this and the democrats won convincingly by a majority of 24 seats.

This shows that if the entire Senate seats were up for elections there would be a strong likelihood that the democrats would have won that too

As for those saying trump is a good strategist or the best leader American ever had, it is well documented that this man is a demagogue, divisive and racist and everything real American abhors

Shut up. Bloody abortionist idiot

Temple1288:


On June 1st 2016


President Obama hit presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump for not detailing the ways in which he plans to accomplish certain goals.

During a PBS town hall that aired Wednesday, Obama referenced Trump's promise to bring back jobs to the United States when talking about manufacturing.

"Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There's no answer to it," Obama said.

"He just says, 'Well, I'm going to negotiate a better deal.' Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn't have an answer."



You've been supporting Obama and his punishing/yelling Hillary without following what they say.

I shall feed you more. Hillary recently said all Blacks look the same. Isn't that racism?

You just quoted some sound bytes and didn't answer the question. Why are you talking about Hillary? Democrats have realised their mistake, she was toxic from day one Bernie Sanders should have run their presidential race.

Mklanceee:

look at what he did to the once booming economy of Lybia. he aided terrorist ,hiding behind human rights . he turned Yemen, Syria, Somalia and Iraq into battle ground because of his quest to influence how the world think. thank God you can only do two terms of not Obama would taken us to another world war

Lol. So Obama started the war in Iraq, Somalia and Yemen? You are kidding right?

hermesprogidy:

Lol. So Obama started the war in Iraq, Somalia and Yemen? You are kidding right?

in his campaign he said he is going to limit American involvement in foreign wars but he took to wars to another level. I never remember saying he started them but he made them worse

Temple1288:

He inherited the same economy Trump inherited.

You can't compare Trump's economic policies with that of Obama. Even Pres. Trump's worst critic (CNN) got marveled the way the Businessman is shaping the economy. A friend who's a Trump hater just called up in 3 jobs he applied for. He's now choosing which to accept. These are high paying jobs and of course he's calling the man a real economic man.

Listen up man. The country is divided and Trump's getting popular everyday unlike what CNN puts out there..

Lol! Obama inherited an economy under recession go and read your history books. I was there live. The only thing about Obama was he never did any lasting thing for Africa and black people...

hermesprogidy:

You just quoted some sound bytes and didn't answer the question. Why are you talking about Hillary? Democrats have realised their mistake, she was toxic from day one Bernie Sanders should have run their presidential race.

Hillary is bad news

Mklanceee:

in his campaign he said he is going to limit American involvement in foreign wars but he took to wars to another level. I never remember saying he started them but he made them worse

How specifically did he make these wars worse? I remember troop withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan started under him. He also refused to send American ground forces to Syria despite intense pressure from the Pentagon. Truth is his refusal to send troops to Syria whilst Russia had a military presence there is one reason his foreign policy was seen as weak by some.
During Trump's campaign, he tweeted that America had no business in Syria because there were bad people on both sides. What did he do when he resumed office? He bombed Syrian military installations because of unproven accusations that Assad had used chemical weapons on civilians.
You need to realise that America trades in war, it's big business for military contractors and weapon manufacturers. These people are powerful and heavy donors to presidents during their campaigns. Do you think there is no corruption in America?
Back to the question, how did Obama make the wars in Iraq and Syria worse?

chuckjonesbaba:


Lol! Obama inherited an economy under recession go and read your history books. I was there live. The only thing about Obama was he never did any lasting thing for Africa and black people...

On point! Reason why a lot of Africans do not like Obama. He is particularly infamous to Nigerians because he refused to sell weapons to the Nigerian army under the administration of Goodluck Jonathan in its fight to suppress Book Haram.
Nigerians are not fans of Obama. Lol...

hermesprogidy:

On point! Reason why a lot of Africans do not like Obama. He is particularly infamous to Nigerians because he refused to sell weapons to the Nigerian army under the administration of Goodluck Jonathan in its fight to suppress Book Haram.
Nigerians are not fans of Obama. Lol...

Back then I was wondering if there was something wrong with him.

chuckjonesbaba:

Back then I was wondering if there was something wrong with him.

Can't blame him. He was between a rock and a hard place. If he goes too pro black, whites will say he's racist. If he's pro white, blacks will say he's a sell out. Don't forget that some blacks did not consider him black because of his mixed heritage.
But after all said and done, Obama is a good person. Unlike the chump currently occupying that position.

dancewith:
Clearly most do not understand what the US mid term elections mean when they claim the republicans had won the Senate. Yes they did but consider these factors

Only 33 seats of the Senate's 100 seats are up for the mid term elections . Meaning the republicans won 18 of those and the democrats 15. Also note that most of the 33 seats are in the republicans major strong holds

The entire 435 seats of The house are up for elections meaning the entire country voted for this and the democrats won convincingly by a majority of 24 seats.

This shows that if the entire Senate seats were up for elections there would be a strong likelihood that the democrats would have won that too

As for those saying trump is a good strategist or the best leader American ever had, it is well documented that this man is a demagogue, divisive and racist and everything real American abhors

Real Americans?!

Obama lost both the House and Senate. So real Americans hated him as well?

hermesprogidy:

On point! Reason why a lot of Africans do not like Obama. He is particularly infamous to Nigerians because he refused to sell weapons to the Nigerian army under the administration of Goodluck Jonathan in its fight to suppress Book Haram.
Nigerians are not fans of Obama. Lol...

Nigerians?! I don't think so. Northerners and people in the Western part of Nigeria hate Trump

hermesprogidy:

How specifically did he make these wars worse? I remember troop withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan started under him. He also refused to send American ground forces to Syria despite intense pressure from the Pentagon. Truth is his refusal to send troops to Syria whilst Russia had a military presence there is one reason his foreign policy was seen as weak by some.
During Trump's campaign, he tweeted that America had no business in Syria because there were bad people on both sides. What did he do when he resumed office? He bombed Syrian military installations because of unproven accusations that Assad had used chemical weapons on civilians.
You need to realise that America trades in war, it's big business for military contractors and weapon manufacturers. These people are powerful and heavy donors to presidents during their campaigns. Do you think there is no corruption in America?
Back to the question, how did Obama make the wars in Iraq and Syria worse?

In Libya his legacy is there for everyone to see how he turned his own continent to a theatre of tears. Obama failed!

hermesprogidy:


Another hogwash from Trump and FoxNews. The claims to the economy by Republicans is like reaping where you did not sow. Economic recovery started 94 months ago under the Obama administration. Kudos to the Republicans, they maintained it.
But it's all a bubble because tax cuts to corporations is driving up budget deficits. The whole thing may soon collapse like a pack of cards and usher in a recession.
Lastly, if you believe for one second that poor, impoverished immigrants making their way from Latin America to the US are a threat, then you need to read less tweets from Trump and read the real news.

Interesting points. You may want to check out what history has to say about tax cuts in the US. From my own checks, tax cuts by JFK-Johnson, Reagan, and Bush seemed to have increased in government revenue from tax receipts.

Note: The liberal media would say that in some of these cases, the deficit increased. True, but disingenuous. The deficit is essentially what was spent minus revenue collected. This implies that if your revenue increased, but your spending increased by a higher rate than that of your revenue, then your deficit will increase. So it's perfectly reasonable to have tax cuts lead to increases tax revenues, and yet the deficit increases because of reckless spending. The problem wouldnt be the tax cuts because they actually did improve revenue. The problem would be the spending choices. Sort of like people who get promotions that come with increased salaries, but end up with more debt because of spending choices that outpaced the increased revenue.

In summary, in assessing the efficacy of tax cuts, the question one should ask is whether it increases or decreases actual revenue from tax receipts based on historical empirical data. The deficit has more to do with the spending choices than the tax cuts.

So here goes my question to you:
Have the Trump tax cuts increased or decreased government revenue from tax receipts? What does the data say?

Temple1288:


In Libya his legacy is there for everyone to see how he turned his own continent to a theatre of tears. Obama failed!

Here lies my resentment for Obama. Lybia was destabilized, allowing mercenaries, militia groups and their advanced weapons to travel to other militia hotbeds in the continent. Some of these advanced weapons ended up with Boko haram and other terrorist groups in Africa. This is a scenario the military think tanks in the US government definitely had envisaged. Yet in the midst of this, the Obama government blocked Nigeria's many efforts to secure weapons for the fight against boko haram. The claim was human rights violations by the Nigerian army makes Nigeria ineligible for procurement of weapons having US parts.

In 2016 however, Same Obama's administration agreed to sell US weapons to Nigeria. What changed about the human rights violations? The only noticeable change was leadership change from Jonathan to Buhari.

It turns out that Obama's campaign strategist, Axlerod, had his firm involved in the Buhari campaign. As the opposition, what better way to make the incumbents in a campaign battle appear to be entirely ineffectual at providing security than ensuring they do not have the weapons to provide security? The more I examine these things, the more it seems to me that Obama's position on weapons sales to Nigeria under Jonathan was to allow his crony, Axlerod, run a successful campaign for the opposition. Perhaps all our suffering and misfortune in the hands of boko haram was nothing more than a business opportunity for them.

GiantParrot:


Interesting points. You may want to check out what history has to say about tax cuts in the US. From my own checks, tax cuts by JFK-Johnson, Reagan, and Bush seemed to have increased in government revenue from tax receipts.

Note: The liberal media would say that in some of these cases, the deficit increased. True, but disingenuous. The deficit is essentially what was spent minus revenue collected. This implies that if your revenue increased, but your spending increased by a higher rate than that of your revenue, then your deficit will increase. So it's perfectly reasonable to have tax cuts lead to increases tax revenues, and yet the deficit increases because of reckless spending. The problem wouldnt be the tax cuts because they actually did improve revenue. The problem would be the spending choices. Sort of like people who get promotions that come with increased salaries, but end up with more debt because of spending choices that outpaced the increased revenue.

In summary, in assessing the efficacy of tax cuts, the question one should ask is whether it increases or decreases actual revenue from tax receipts based on historical empirical data. The deficit has more to do with the spending choices than the tax cuts.

So here goes my question to you:
Have the Trump tax cuts increased or decreased government revenue from tax receipts? What does the data say?

The data as at June 2018 says current tax receipts has reduced. Yes tax receipts for production and imports increased due to the ongoing trade wars, and tax receipts for personal income sort of stagnated, but tax receipts for corporations reduced dramatically. This is the cohort that makes the most money!
You can look up the data on the US Bureau of Economic Analysis. I had to add this so you don't think it's information from CNN.

Temple1288:


In Libya his legacy is there for everyone to see how he turned his own continent to a theatre of tears. Obama failed!

Yes, I agree, the Libyan invasion was rather unfortunate, and a stain on Obama's record, but that situation was beyond Obama. Remember, the West had been looking for an excuse to deal with Ghadaffi and the Arab Spring provided the perfect excuse don't forget it was the UN that aided the Libyan resistance. UK, France etc participated in maintaining the no fly zone in Libya.
Assad would have gone the same way, but he was smart enough to get Russia on his side. Am not saying Obama is a saint. But you have to agree that there are more Americans that love him than those who hate him.

And err... Africa was a theatre of tears long before Obama came into the scene.

GiantParrot:


Here lies my resentment for Obama. Lybia was destabilized, allowing mercenaries, militia groups and their advanced weapons to travel to other militia hotbeds in the continent. Some of these advanced weapons ended up with Boko haram and other terrorist groups in Africa. This is a scenario the military think tanks in the US government definitely had envisaged. Yet in the midst of this, the Obama government blocked Nigeria's many efforts to secure weapons for the fight against boko haram. The claim was human rights violations by the Nigerian army makes Nigeria ineligible for procurement of weapons having US parts.

In 2016 however, Same Obama's administration agreed to sell US weapons to Nigeria. What changed about the human rights violations? The only noticeable change was leadership change from Jonathan to Buhari.

It turns out that Obama's campaign strategist, Axlerod, had his firm involved in the Buhari campaign. As the opposition, what better way to make the incumbents in a campaign battle appear to be entirely ineffectual at providing security than ensuring they do not have the weapons to provide security? The more I examine these things, the more it seems to me that Obama's position on weapons sales to Nigeria under Jonathan was to allow his crony, Axlerod, run a successful campaign for the opposition. Perhaps all our suffering and misfortune in the hands of boko haram was nothing more than a business opportunity for them.

Tragedy is a ladder.

Temple1288:


Nigerians?! I don't think so. Northerners and people in the Western part of Nigeria hate Trump

Do you like Trump?

dancewith:
Clearly most do not understand what the US mid term elections mean when they claim the republicans had won the Senate. Yes they did but consider these factors

Only 33 seats of the Senate's 100 seats are up for the mid term elections . Meaning the republicans won 18 of those and the democrats 15. Also note that most of the 33 seats are in the republicans major strong holds

The entire 435 seats of The house are up for elections meaning the entire country voted for this and the democrats won convincingly by a majority of 24 seats.

This shows that if the entire Senate seats were up for elections there would be a strong likelihood that the democrats would have won that too

As for those saying trump is a good strategist or the best leader American ever had, it is well documented that this man is a demagogue, divisive and racist and everything real American abhors

Califonia is mostly illegal state. About 30% of dem seats came from there. So shut the fck.

hermesprogidy:

Do you like Trump?

Yes, I do like Trump.

hermesprogidy:

Why did Democrats win the popularity vote?

Who gives a Bleep about popularity vote?

Mklanceee:

I don't know how a Nigerian could open his mouth and begin to advise Trump and Americans. I don't know how long it will take us to get to the level

I wonder 3rd World country that cannot even give their citizens light.

hermesprogidy:

Yes, I agree, the Libyan invasion was rather unfortunate, and a stain on Obama's record, but that situation was beyond Obama. Remember, the West had been looking for an excuse to deal with Ghadaffi and the Arab Spring provided the perfect excuse don't forget it was the UN that aided the Libyan resistance. UK, France etc participated in maintaining the no fly zone in Libya.
Assad would have gone the same way, but he was smart enough to get Russia on his side. Am not saying Obama is a saint. But you have to agree that there are more Americans that love him than those who hate him.

And err... Africa was a theatre of tears long before Obama came into the scene.

Do you remember how there was great joy filled around Africa when Obama was declared President of the USA? What positive can Barack Obama be remembered for?

As Africans how did we benefit from his Presidency? He impacted less in the lives of Americans. To be sincere, I never hated Obama until I noticed how disastrous his administration was.......

Temple1288:


Do you remember how there was great joy filled around Africa when Obama was declared President of the USA? What positive can Barack Obama be remembered for?

As Africans how did we benefit from his Presidency? He impacted less in the lives of Americans. To be sincere, I never hated Obama until I noticed how disastrous his administration was.......

If nothing, he increased funding for HIV relief through PEPFAR. This is an initiative started during the Bush era. Trump meanwhile is gradually killing this initiative. In my opinion, I think he was put off by the blatant corruption of Jonathan's administration.
So, what exactly were your expectations from Obama, as regards Africa?

hermesprogidy:

The data as at June 2018 says current tax receipts has reduced.

This is correct, at least based on information from the federal reserve for Q2 2018
https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2018/06/movement-of-the-federal-tax-receipt-front/

Will this trend continue? Time will tell. You did answer my question though. Although I'm sure we both understand the pitfalls of making long term projections based on information from only two quarters. Could we revisit this when the annual tax information for 2018 is released?

Yes tax receipts for production and imports increased due to the ongoing trade wars, and tax receipts for personal income sort of stagnate...

Why do you attribute tax receipts for production solely to trade wars? Some would say more money in the hands of people would cause them to spend more, thereby increasing demand. And more money in the hands of companies implies they have more funds to invest in the production that will meet the increased demand. Hence the increased production generated increased excise tax revenues.

but tax receipts for corporations reduced dramatically. This is the cohort that makes the most money!

As seen in the first link I posted, it is true that tax receipts from corporations reduced dramatically, 35% in fact. However, tax receipt from corporations typically account for about 10% of total tax receipts.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/policy-basics-where-do-federal-tax-revenues-come-from

Why are you trying to insinuate that the sharp drop in corporations' tax receipts is a big factor in the overall 5% drop in total tax revenue?

Anyway, it's possible that this time, tax cuts may not lead to increased tax revenue. Data from two quarters are insufficient to make any strong conclusion. Let's keep our fingers crossed and revisit this when more data becomes available.

blueAgent:



Who gives a Bleep about popularity vote?

Popularity vote is the true reflection of democracy. American democracy is fundamentally flawed.

hermesprogidy:


Tragedy is a ladder.

Aha! The mainstream media tries to tells us that it is boorish, indecent folks like Trump that take advantage of such "opportunities" tragedy presents. Perhaps we should be more wary of those slimy characters in dapper suits who use sophisticated, flowery language to charm and distract us from the inner darkness that inspire them to seek advantage in tragedy.