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Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 7:56pm On Nov 09, 2018
Here are somethings God could have preserved in pristine condition to prove the Bible is true.

1. The tree of good and evil.
2. The garden of Eden.
3. The sword used to protect the garden of Eden.
4. The ark Noah built.
5. The tower of Babel.
6. The sites of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
7. The storage devices Joseph used for preserving food for 7 years.
8. The stone tablets God carved and wrote on.
9. The ark of testament.
10. The manna God rained from heaven.
11. The writing on the wall Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin.

None of these things are anywhere to be seen so instead we get so many unsubstantiated tales. These are things that would have been able to be scientifically tested and provided a good basis for accepting the tales of the bible. Here we are empty handed and asked to believe these incredible tales of God's power.

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Onlinealaba(m): 7:58pm On Nov 09, 2018
If God preserved all these it doesn't change the fact that you atheist will still dispute it,

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Sincinnati: 8:11pm On Nov 09, 2018
Onlinealaba:
If God preserved all these it doesn't change the fact that you atheist will still dispute it,
My friend, God should have tried and see.

I personally will serve him in truth and in spirit if he arrests me the way the Bible said he did to Paul.

You don’t expect us in this technology age to believe things we didn’t witness, I believe we need those miracles of old much now than those cave men who saw a stick turn into a snake.

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 8:19pm On Nov 09, 2018
Onlinealaba:
If God preserved all these it doesn't change the fact that you atheist will still dispute it,

Yes we would have tested it and be certain they are what the are said to be. Even you Christian believers would have been happy to show evidence for your God. Now however there is no proof of any of these things.

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Illuminatus(m): 8:45pm On Nov 09, 2018
My own personal list:

1. God giving a detailed explanation of why and how he created the universe. Using a human as an emissary won’t cut it, he has to deliver this message himself.

2. Jesus proving that he is the son of God. We won’t take his word for it. A DNA test might do, though.

3. God should impregnate someone else whilst we watch - for academic purpose, of course. This has to be a controlled experiment so no bethronement or sending angels to do his dirty work.

4. He explains whilst he says he’s one thing but does the opposite - like say that he loves everyone but asks one people to wipe out another tribe.

5. Explain his obsession with sex and why it’s so important to him that women be inferior.

6. Prove that he didn’t plagiarize the creation stories.

Okay, pause. I think we have gotten off on the wrong foot. The Bible is the problem, not God. Asking God to prove himself is like asking Okonkwo from Things Fall Apart to prove himself.

What we need is proof that the Bible is what it says it is - which the contrary has been proven.

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Heartbender: 9:11pm On Nov 09, 2018
Abeg shift joor. You're a drop in a drop in a deluge and you think you can dictate for God?Taaah! Meshonu! Tueh!
LordReed:
Here are somethings God could have preserved in pristine condition to prove the Bible is true.

1. The tree of good and evil.
2. The garden of Eden.
3. The sword used to protect the garden of Eden.
4. The ark Noah built.
5. The tower of Babel.
6. The sites of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
7. The storage devices Joseph used for preserving food for 7 years.
8. The stone tablets God carved and wrote on.
9. The ark of testament.
10. The manna God rained from heaven.
11. The writing on the wall Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin.

None of these things are anywhere to be seen so instead we get so many unsubstantiated tales. These are things that would have been able to be scientifically tested and provided a good basis for accepting the tales of the bible. Here we are empty handed and asked to believe these incredible tales of God's power.

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Onlinealaba(m): 9:21pm On Nov 09, 2018
God still shows himself to those who seek him diligently, and there are many proof that validates the bible and existence of God, we can't question God ways cos his way are higher than ours. peace

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 1:22am On Nov 10, 2018
Heartbender:
Abeg shift joor. You're a drop in a drop in a deluge and you think you can dictate for God?Taaah! Meshonu! Tueh!

Hehehe, why does god hide behind the trousers of your pastors? He could have done very simple things with all his power instead of relying on people like you to defend him. LoL.

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by felixomor: 2:02am On Nov 10, 2018
Another tantrum-laden rant from an expired child that was forced to go to church while growing up, now claiming atheist.

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Heartbender: 9:36am On Nov 10, 2018
Yet you call on him in every trifle you make..sense ibagha
LordReed:


Hehehe, why does god hide behind the trousers of your pastors? He could have done very simple things with all his power instead of relying on people like you to defend him. LoL.

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by rame18(f): 10:22am On Nov 10, 2018
Sincinnati:
My friend, God should have tried and see.

I personally will serve him in truth and in spirit if he arrests me the way the Bible said he did to Paul.

You don’t expect us in this technology age to believe things we didn’t witness, I believe we need those miracles of old much now than those cave men who saw a stick turn into a snake.





OK o! ask and you shall receive is what the Bible says. let the deliverance of this person be like that of Paul of tarsus and may he also preach your word on an exalted altar. Mark yeah this day.
Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 10:36am On Nov 10, 2018
Heartbender:
Yet you call on him in every trifle you make..sense ibagha

More like call out the fantasy you call the bible. Your own sense na banga. LMFAO!

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 10:45am On Nov 10, 2018
felixomor:
Another tantrum-laden rant from an expired child that was forced to go to church while growing up, now claiming atheist.


LoL wtf is expired child? Another of the fantasies you believe in?
Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Heartbender: 10:52am On Nov 10, 2018
Better that than eternal oblivion
LordReed:


More like call out the fantasy you call the bible. Your own sense na banga. LMFAO!
Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 11:11am On Nov 10, 2018
Onlinealaba:
God still shows himself to those who seek him diligently, and there are many proof that validates the bible and existence of God, we can't question God ways cos his way are higher than ours. peace

What is this proof? Can it be tested?
Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 11:16am On Nov 10, 2018
Heartbender:
Better that than eternal oblivion

What eternal oblivion? You've met anyone in this eternal oblivion? You've seen this eternal oblivion? Can we observe this eternal oblivion?

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by felixomor: 12:00pm On Nov 10, 2018
LordReed:


LoL wtf is expired child? Another of the fantasies you believe in?
Get a mirror

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Ihedinobi3: 12:11pm On Nov 10, 2018
Perhaps. But God did preserve creation, your conscience and the reality of physical death and none of those things convince you despite their ubiquity in the Bible. Why would any of these other subjective proofs you desire make any difference that these aren't making?

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 12:57pm On Nov 10, 2018
felixomor:

Get a mirror

Hehehe, with all your divine connection that's the best you're got? LMFAO!
Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by felixomor: 1:04pm On Nov 10, 2018
LordReed:


Hehehe, with all your divine connection that's the best you're got? LMFAO!
Thats all you need

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 1:04pm On Nov 10, 2018
Ihedinobi3:
Perhaps. But God did preserve creation, your conscience and the reality of physical death and none of those things convince you despite their ubiquity in the Bible. Why would any of these other subjective proofs you desire make any difference that these aren't making?

Because in testing nature we do not see any sign of god. If there was a tree of good and evil to observe or test it will be very much different. Besides a well preserved 4000year old hand built sea vessel of the proportions the ark was supposed to have would be a testament to great power yes?
Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 1:07pm On Nov 10, 2018
felixomor:

Thats all you need

LoL you mean your fantasy couldn't produce a really convincing evidence. Don't worry I understand. LMFAO!

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Ihedinobi3: 1:16pm On Nov 10, 2018
LordReed:


Because in testing nature we do not see any sign of god. If there was a tree of good and evil to observe or test it will be very much different. Besides a well preserved 4000year old hand built sea vessel of the proportions the ark was supposed to have would be a testament to great power yes?
Honest atheists that I have encountered even here on Nairaland have admitted straight out that their problem is not evidence, that rather they don't like God and don't want to submit to Him. I expect you to get there soon although I hope you turn around before you do.

Creation itself is very vivid testimony to great power and there is no honest way to explain it than God. The same is true of the human conscience that has prevented the human race from destroying itself and of physical death which no human being has ever managed to escape.

Anyone can claim to see no evidence even when surrounded by it in preponderance. So, I don't believe that there is any problem of evidence at all.

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by felixomor: 1:31pm On Nov 10, 2018
LordReed:


LoL you mean your fantasy couldn't produce a really convincing evidence. Don't worry I understand. LMFAO!
Another tantrum.
Sorry eh

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by xproducer: 1:32pm On Nov 10, 2018
LordReed:
Here are somethings God could have preserved in pristine condition to prove the Bible is true.

1. The tree of good and evil.
2. The garden of Eden.
3. The sword used to protect the garden of Eden.
4. The ark Noah built.
5. The tower of Babel.
6. The sites of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
7. The storage devices Joseph used for preserving food for 7 years.
8. The stone tablets God carved and wrote on.
9. The ark of testament.
10. The manna God rained from heaven.
11. The writing on the wall Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin.

None of these things are anywhere to be seen so instead we get so many unsubstantiated tales. These are things that would have been able to be scientifically tested and provided a good basis for accepting the tales of the bible. Here we are empty handed and asked to believe these incredible tales of God's power.
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OP... you are thinking as men think.

For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts." = Isaiah 55:8-9

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened." - Romans 1:18-21
Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 2:12pm On Nov 10, 2018
Ihedinobi3:

Honest atheists that I have encountered even here on Nairaland have admitted straight out that their problem is not evidence, that rather they don't like God and don't want to submit to Him. I expect you to get there soon although I hope you turn around before you do.

Creation itself is very vivid testimony to great power and there is no honest way to explain it than God. The same is true of the human conscience that has prevented the human race from destroying itself and of physical death which no human being has ever managed to escape.

Anyone can claim to see no evidence even when surrounded by it in preponderance. So, I don't believe that there is any problem of evidence at all.

Asserting that god created trees is not evidence. I can similarly assert that trees are dragon poop.

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 2:14pm On Nov 10, 2018
felixomor:

Another tantrum.
Sorry eh

Hehehehe don't worry I understand how stumped you are that you can't not produce the evidence for your fantasy. LMFAO!

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 2:17pm On Nov 10, 2018
xproducer:

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OP... you are thinking as men think.

For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts." = Isaiah 55:8-9

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened." - Romans 1:18-21

The words you quote were written by men. The very tablet that was claimed to have to been written by god is conveniently destroyed. The same god could not prevent his own handwriting from being destroyed, how very convenient.

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Ihedinobi3: 3:15pm On Nov 10, 2018
LordReed:


Asserting that god created trees is not evidence. I can similarly assert that trees are dragon poop.
And what prevents you from saying this about the other "proofs" you demand?

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Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Deckline(m): 3:16pm On Nov 10, 2018
FOR WE LIVE BY FAITH NOT BY SIGHT.
Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by LordReed(m): 3:24pm On Nov 10, 2018
Ihedinobi3:

And what prevents you from saying this about the other "proofs" you demand?

Because I feel generous enough to consider that if they were true then some exertion of godly powers could have provided incontrovertible proof of the tales. But alas we find no evidence what so ever about any of the tall tales.
Re: Things God Could Have Preserved To Prove The Truth Of The Bible by Ihedinobi3: 3:44pm On Nov 10, 2018
LordReed:


Because I feel generous enough to consider that if they were true then some exertion of godly powers could have provided incontrovertible proof of the tales. But alas we find no evidence what so ever about any of the tall tales.
If you don't feel "generous" enough to consider that Creation is the work of God, I see no reason to believe that you would be any more "generous" with any other proofs. I mean, when God Himself says that the proofs He will give to men of His existence and His Personality are these things I mentioned and you reject them and demand instead proofs that you are full aware that He didn't offer, all I can say is that you are trying to legitimize your atheism.

And why would you need to do that if it is so obvious that God doesn't exist and the Bible is a fairy tale? I can only wonder.

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