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Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by tuniski: 3:16pm On Nov 26, 2018
PHILipu1:

If we had allowed PDP to continued in 2015,things could have be worse than this.

Take Venezuela as case study.
Things couldn't have been anything near this failure called buhari/apc govt. Venezuela is a Socialist state suffering the ills of socialism. By the way, socialism like Venezuela is what this Buhari Govt want to actually make nigeria.
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by PHILipu1(m): 4:05pm On Nov 26, 2018
tuniski:

Things couldn't have been anything near this failure called buhari/apc govt. Venezuela is a Socialist state suffering the ills of socialism. By the way, socialism like Venezuela is what this Buhari Govt want to actually make nigeria.
If PDP looting had continue with Crude oil as low as $34 per barrel,me and you would have be refuges in some Africa countries by now and you know that.
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by tuniski: 4:37pm On Nov 26, 2018
PHILipu1:

If PDP looting had continue with Crude oil as low as $34 per barrel,me and you would have be refuges in some Africa countries by now and you know that.
Very shallow intellectualism. I have always. Known that people with poor grasp of finance and economic fundamentals are the sai baba chanters!

Oil was $12 under OBJ and fx reserve 3bn$ yet, nigeria witnessed prosperity.


Even if buhari is to handle USA, they will enter recession. He is that poor!
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by writeprof(m): 4:38pm On Nov 26, 2018
Calers:
Katsina votes will swallow south east votes
Who are the voters there? Almajiris, Pry & secondary school children.
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by mfm04622: 6:02pm On Nov 26, 2018
tuniski:

I don't bet on election. It is not a bragging right even but a matter of governance and how it affects our humanity.

So many supporting Buhari just want to say I said so; he won! It doesn't matter to them or perhaps they feel the impact of poor leadership/governance!

I asked for a bet because you said you are sure Atiku will win North East! I am sure he won't.
I support Buhari because believe he is the better candidate! Simple.
I have voted for a candidate that had only 2 votes in the polling unit! Only the agent and I voted for the candidate in that election! Only Obasanjo (2nd term) and Buhari (2015) have won when I voted for them in national elections. So I don't support candidate because of any other reason apart from my belief they are the better option
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by mfm04622: 6:10pm On Nov 26, 2018
tuniski:

Very shallow intellectualism. I have always. Known that people with poor grasp of finance and economic fundamentals are the sai baba chanters!

Oil was $12 under OBJ and fx reserve 3bn$ yet, nigeria witnessed prosperity.


Even if buhari is to handle USA, they will enter recession. He is that poor!

You either have poor memory or you were too young to know what was happening during Obasanjo's time!
Do you remember "zero allocation"? That was when local governments go to Abuja and they were told all money due to them have been deducted to pay teachers' salary! You call that prosperity? Lol!!!

We witnessed prosperity under OBJ when oil price went up! Simple.
As long as Nigeria depends on oil, we will go into recession when oil price do down! Fact! In fact, not only Nigeria. All countries that depends on oil for funding their budgets usually go into recession when oil price is low! Go and check how many went into recession the last time we went. There is no magic there! The solution is to save for rainy days and expand options to fund the budget. This govt is doing both! Our tax base has expabded, collected tax is going up. The journey is rough now. The important thing is we have started
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by PHILipu1(m): 6:27pm On Nov 26, 2018
tuniski:

Very shallow intellectualism. I have always. Known that people with poor grasp of finance and economic fundamentals are the sai baba chanters!

Oil was $12 under OBJ and fx reserve 3bn$ yet, nigeria witnessed prosperity.


Even if buhari is to handle USA, they will enter recession. He is that poor!
And what was the exchange rate of dollar in OBJ era?
Are you a kid?
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by Legend007: 6:59pm On Nov 26, 2018
madridsta007:


Like I said, I analyse voting patterns. And historical voting records and not media rhetorics. The SW did not vote for Obasanjo their son in 1999 and for years later, the same apathy was repeated in 2003 when Obasanjo came for a second term. Opposition to Obj third term agenda was quite rife in the SW too else it would have sailed through.

These are simple facts. Of course having Osinbajo as VP would help, I’m not saying it wouldn’t; but would it give a 60-70% to the APC in the region? Historical antecedents does not point to that. Any voting percentage under 59% is a split vote hence my prediction. South West voters are the most sophisticated in Nigeria; for them, it is issues-based. And I think PDP and others understand this.

Have a great day.

Bro please go back and check 2003 election results.

SW don't desert their own.

In 1999 the election was btw 2 southwesterners, so SW choosing Falae over OBJ was just a preference.

In 2003, OBJ won SW massively and PDP/OBJ even took over all of the SW states except Lagos.

So dont get it twisted. SW will not leave Osinbajo in the ticket and support Obi, who once insulted SW and called AD Party Awolowo and amala party.

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Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by tuniski: 7:08pm On Nov 26, 2018
mfm04622:


You either have poor memory or you were too young to know what was happening during Obasanjo's time!
Do you remember "zero allocation"? That was when local governments go to Abuja and they were told all money due to them have been deducted to pay teachers' salary! You call that prosperity? Lol!!!

We witnessed prosperity under OBJ when oil price went up! Simple.
As long as Nigeria depends on oil, we will go into recession when oil price do down! Fact! In fact, not only Nigeria. All countries that depends on oil for funding their budgets usually go into recession when oil price is low! Go and check how many went into recession the last time we went. There is no magic there! The solution is to save for rainy days and expand options to fund the budget. This govt is doing both! Our tax base has expabded, collected tax is going up. The journey is rough now. The important thing is we have started
You can't revise history. Nigeria's prosperity is beyond payment of salaries to govt workers! Under OBJ teachers/lecturers salaries was reviewed upwards. From the beggarly rate under the military!

By all standard was better under OBJ and under Pdp as a whole than under this rudderless buhari!
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by tuniski: 7:09pm On Nov 26, 2018
PHILipu1:

And what was the exchange rate of dollar in OBJ era?
Are you a kid?
You are Surely sounding like one! The failure of buhari is beyond oil price fluctuation. The Price has been Favorable To him since he came in.

The exhange rate what? You guys are just empty Nigeria was better managed under Pdp as a capitalist leaning economy than this socialist leaning one under buhari/apc.
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by PHILipu1(m): 8:05pm On Nov 26, 2018
tuniski:

You are Surely sounding like one! The failure of buhari is beyond oil price fluctuation. The Price has been Favorable To him since he came in.

The exhange rate what? You guys are just empty Nigeria was better managed under Pdp as a capitalist leaning economy than this socialist leaning one under buhari/apc.
Lol.
We are not fools,because GEJ had crude oil to sell as high as $140 at a time made people like you believed that we were living a good life and the truth was that it was a fake life and the bubble was surely going to bust and it was just unfortunate that it burst during Buhari era and we thank God he has manage it well.

Buhari would have done times ten of what PDP did in 16 years if he can get the price od crude at that rate.

Even with the little we are making,he has been able to complete all PDP abandon projects.

We understand that hate will never make you guys to admit this.

Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by ozo13(m): 8:19pm On Nov 26, 2018
socialmediaman:


SW does not vote because Osinbajo is on the ballot (they didn’t vote for Obasanjo), they Vote based on Tinubu influence and other leaders, but PDP has a very strong footing so the votes will be split like 55/45 or 60/40 especially with the economic hardship. SE and SS will likely vote massively for Atiku because of the poor performance of Buhari and also due to his divisive and utterances and other factors, not just because of Obi on the ticket.

NC should go in favor of Atiku due to the herdsmen crisis though APC will battle for votes. The only region Buhari has is the NE but remember he won’t have a clean sweep as before due to his poor performance, if Atiku presses harder and gets people like Kwankwaso fully on board.

People see Buhari as an enigma forgetting he’s the same person who lost 3 elections before poor performance pushed PDP out of the presidency, same thing that will likely push Buhari out in 2019
forget all this performance u r talking about that will make ss se not to vote buhari.that region has always hated buhari even before he won d làst election. U believe atiku has a chance against buhari in northeast .I jus dey laf.Atiku can only defeat buhari in his home state .they MAY split taraba n gombe.forget bauchi borno yobe n kaño atleast for now
North central my own region .they will split the vote.
Northwest where I HV bn in the last 3yrs o.I don't think Atiku got any chance here.he may jus gather few votes in Kaduna may be.
Finally, to me the Major determinant of who will win the election will be the northeast and southwest votes.
Why cos se+ss lock down for atiku where as nw lock down for buhari.
The north central likely 50/50.
Anything can still happen in northeast sha
Southwest emmmm I can't say for now.but since APC governors control all the 6states and also the tinubu factor. APC may likely wanna use federal might there.
Herdsmen in north central is an age long thing and it didnt jus start in this administration.its only in Benue I know that will affect APC.
Niger state likely 50/50 cos of Babangida factor which will favor Atiku.I worked in one local government Màriga for jus a month that was in February this year and I was shuttling between the place and the state capital minna every week before I left for kebbi state again.
Kogi my own state emmmm likely 50/50.
Abuja likely 50/50.

Plateau emmm likely around 50/50
Kwara state where i school and spent like 8yrs. saraki is going to fight hard but the recent happenings there APC is likely going to win Big there.
My own calculations sha.
Weldon sir
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by socialmediaman: 8:42pm On Nov 26, 2018
ozo13:
forget all this performance u r talking about that will make ss se not to vote buhari.that region has always hated buhari even before he won d làst election. U believe atiku has a chance against buhari in northeast .I jus dey laf.Atiku can only defeat buhari in his home state .they MAY split taraba n gombe.forget bauchi borno yobe n kaño atleast for now
North central my own region .they will split the vote.
Northwest where I HV bn in the last 3yrs o.I don't think Atiku got any chance here.he may jus gather few votes in Kaduna may be.
Finally, to me the Major determinant of who will win the election will be the northeast and southwest votes.
Why cos se+ss lock down for atiku where as nw lock down for buhari.
The north central likely 50/50.
Anything can still happen in northeast sha
Southwest emmmm I can't say for now.but since APC governors control all the 6states and also the tinubu factor. APC may likely wanna use federal might there.
Herdsmen in north central is an age long thing and it didnt jus start in this administration.its only in Benue I know that will affect APC.
Niger state likely 50/50 cos of Babangida factor which will favor Atiku.I worked in one local government Màriga for jus a month that was in February this year and I was shuttling between the place and the state capital minna every week before I left for kebbi state again.
Kogi my own state emmmm likely 50/50.
Abuja likely 50/50.

Plateau emmm likely around 50/50
Kwara state where i school and spent like 8yrs. saraki is going to fight hard but the recent happenings there APC is likely going to win Big there.
My own calculations sha.
Weldon sir

I think your analysis sounds a bit convincing to some extent. In my opinion, SW will split, we don’t know to what extent, but judging by The economic hardship, it will not be a clean sweep for anyone, votes will be split but I think both Buhari and Atiku May win marginally in some SW states. Atiku May slightly trail behind overall

NW will be a lockdown for Buhari, Atiku should only hustle to score 25% in some states.

SE/SS will be a lockdown for Atiku. Buhari will be lucky to get 20% of votes in most states except Edo.

NE/NC is the battleground in my opinion. If they decide to vote according to region, then Buhari is in trouble because his strongholds are in this region. Atiku May win marginally if he campaigns hard in the region. NC states will be split but Atiku should win because PDP is strong in this region, in addition to the herdsmen crisis which may have passed but people may not have forgotten.

Overall, I think Atiku is the man to beat here. Let’s say Buhari gets 1.5million votes in Kano with Atiku getting up to 500,000 (based on 40% voter turnout), this will be easily cancelled with the margin of votes Atiku will use to win in Rivers or Delta.

At this time, it’s hard to predict, but hope Atiku does a great job in sending his message across the NE/NC regions
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by mfm04622: 9:23pm On Nov 26, 2018
tuniski:

You can't revise history. Nigeria's prosperity is beyond payment of salaries to govt workers! Under OBJ teachers/lecturers salaries was reviewed upwards. From the beggarly rate under the military!

By all standard was better under OBJ and under Pdp as a whole than under this rudderless buhari!

An assignment for you!.

Go and check the date the salary increment was announced, then check the crude price for that month and come back.
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by danot1030: 9:32pm On Nov 26, 2018
socialmediaman:


How do you know Atiku is a scam when we haven’t tried him? When I campaigned for Buhari in 2015, I resolved that I’ll vote him out in 2019 if he took our votes for granted and performed poorly like his predecessor GEJ, now he has performed far worse than GEJ.

I am not giving Atiku a pass until we try him, but we must resolve to vote him out if he performed below expectation, that’s the only way democracy can thrive in Nigeria and our leaders can be made accountable

Bros i can't give my vote to someone that records of corruption trails all his history and especially when he's now surrounded and be promoted by thieves.

If you are saying we should try someone else apart from Buhari i will agree with you but why are you not giving people like Duke, Ezekwesilieze and Hakim a consideration, is it because they are not in a popular party.
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by socialmediaman: 10:52pm On Nov 26, 2018
danot1030:


Bros i can't give my vote to someone that records of corruption trails all his history and especially when he's now surrounded and be promoted by thieves.

If you are saying we should try someone else apart from Buhari i will agree with you but why are you not giving people like Duke, Ezekwesilieze and Hakim a consideration, is it because they are not in a popular party.

The people you mentioned cannot win the election, a vote for any of them is a vote to allow Buhari continue for another 4 years. One cannot win an election from a non-major party in Nigeria. Sowore could’ve started with governship election, that’s an easier territory to conquer and build his popularity. Nobody knows them on the streets of abakaliki or kafanchan or zungeru.

When it comes to Atiku being corrupt, Obasanjo was corrupt too, GEJ was corrupt too. Tell me, who wasn’t corrupt? But they all performed far better than Buhari and yet we’re voted out.

It would be so disappointing of us to reward poor performance with re-election just because they put fear in us that Atiku will loot the treasury. Instead, let us be vigilant and participate actively in politics to make sure he doesn’t, and vote him out if he does
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by tuniski: 2:30am On Nov 27, 2018
mfm04622:


An assignment for you!.

Go and check the date the salary increment was announced, then check the crude price for that month and come back.
Crude Price this crude price that. Very Shallow stuff!
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by tuniski: 2:41am On Nov 27, 2018
PHILipu1:

Lol.
We are not fools,because GEJ had crude oil to sell as high as $140 at a time made people like you believed that we were living a good life and the truth was that it was a fake life and the bubble was surely going to bust and it was just unfortunate that it burst during Buhari era and we thank God he has manage it well.

Buhari would have done times ten of what PDP did in 16 years if he can get the price od crude at that rate.

Even with the little we are making,he has been able to complete all PDP abandon projects.

We understand that hate will never make you guys to admit this.

Buhari can't do anything cos he is empty!
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by PHILipu1(m): 1:41pm On Nov 27, 2018
tuniski:


Buhari can't do anything cos he is empty!
But better than your Otueke hero with full brain
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by tuniski: 1:52pm On Nov 27, 2018
PHILipu1:

But better than your Otueke hero with full brain
Face the front like someone with imagination for the future not one stuck in the past!
Re: Buhari Vs Atiku: North-east Governors State Position Ahead Of 2019 Election by PHILipu1(m): 3:09pm On Nov 27, 2018
tuniski:

Face the front like someone with imagination for the future not one stuck in the past!
No future without the present and the past.

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