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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by KanwuliaExtra: 11:55pm On Nov 27, 2018
kernel001:


Sure! Don't strain your emotions strongly for the wrong cause.

Gatttit!

Biafra is a wrong cause.
There is so much more to be achieved.
We have to work on ourselves and mindsets first. cry

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by princfred(m): 11:56pm On Nov 27, 2018
citizenY:



People deserve a pride of place but not if they want to be placed on the right hand side of the Creator because, from the look of things, only His position will satisfy them.
What other right position has been given that has not satisfied them?

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by princfred(m): 11:57pm On Nov 27, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:


Gatttit!

Biafra is a wrong cause.
There is so much more to be achieved.
We have to work on ourselves and mindsets first. cry
Go work on BH and FH first.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by kernel001: 11:58pm On Nov 27, 2018
citizenY:



People deserve a pride of place but not if they want to be placed on the right hand side of the Creator because, from the look of things, only His position will satisfy them.

Every man has a right to dream, some fantasies are reality today. Let every man aspire according to his strength.

If you believe you can make it, you're right. If you equally believe you can't, you're also right, because it depends on you.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by kernel001: 12:06am On Nov 28, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:


Gatttit!

Biafra is a wrong cause.
There is so much more to be achieved.
We have to work on ourselves and mindsets first. cry


Says who?... You aren't Igbo, and even if you are, majority takes it.

If you were during the Nigerian/Biafra war, you will look down on China, because Nigeria was three times richer. You will assume Nigeria to be better than South Africa, considering the fact that it gained independent gar earlier, right? Determination is a key factor in economic growth.

What do you want to achieve with Nigeria, please tell us any area Nigeria have improved since after 1960, just one.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by KanwuliaExtra: 12:08am On Nov 28, 2018
princfred:
Go work on BH and FH first.

Oh please!
Are those Nigerians? undecided
Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by KanwuliaExtra: 12:17am On Nov 28, 2018
kernel001:



Says who?... You aren't Igbo, and even if you are, majority takes it.

If you were during the Nigerian/Biafra war, you will look down on China, because Nigeria was three times richer. You will assume Nigeria to be better than South Africa, considering the fact that it gained independent gar earlier, right? Determination is a key factor in economic growth.

What do you want to achieve with Nigeria, please tell us any area Nigeria have improved since after 1960, just one.


Is it the fault of the concept of “Nigeria” or the citizens within?

A Nigerian is a Nigerian you know?
Every ethnic group share the same CURSE of greed and lack of the most basic fundamental, ethical compass that will endure successful propagation of the human race.

How will splitting Nigeria cure GENETIC CORRUPTION? undecided

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by kernel001: 12:33am On Nov 28, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:



Is it the fault of the concept of “Nigeria” or the citizens within?

A Nigerian is a Nigerian you know?
Every ethnic group share the same CURSE of greed and lack of the most basic fundamental, ethical compass that will endure successful propagation of the human race.

How will splitting Nigeria cute GENETIC CORRUPTION? undecided

Now you're talk. The biggest problem of Nigeria is inequality and nurturing mediocrity.

If you give Nigerians job, 70% will never sell there votes, will stay off vices. How do tell a hungry man to maintain decorum?

First, if Nigeria is runned like a typical nation, where states fend for themselves, forcing only creative individuals to vye for state Governors.

If the states are independent, jobs will be created. Same with Power.

Decentralize power(NEPA), allow private investors, who will generate and distribute. The government, will simply have a fair share from what is generated, as well as regulate them.

More ports, they are quite cheap, besides we have water ways. But Nigeria think that if they allow PH port to start working, that Igbo's can use it against them.

Promote merits, not Federal character.

If you think Igbos don't have what it takes to survive outside the enclave called Nigeria, I give you 10 years, it will be like the case of South Africa that Nigeria helped in gaining independence, today, Nigeria thrill behide South Africa in almost all positive developmental indices.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by KanwuliaExtra: 12:51am On Nov 28, 2018
kernel001:


Now you're talk. The biggest problem of Nigeria is inequality and nurturing mediocrity.

If you give Nigerians job, 70% will never sell there votes, will stay off vices. How do tell a hungry man to maintain decorum?

First, if Nigeria is runned like a typical nation, where states fend for themselves, forcing only creative individuals to vye for state Governors.

If the states are independent, jobs will be created. Same with Power.

Decentralize power(NEPA), allow private investors, who will generate and distribute. The government, will simply have a fair share from what is generated, as well as regulate them.

More ports, they are quite cheap, besides we have water ways. But Nigeria think that if they allow PH port to start working, that Igbo's can use it against them.

Promote merits, not Federal character.

If you think Igbos don't have what it takes to survive outside the enclave called Nigeria, I give you 10 years, it will be like the case of South Africa that Nigeria helped in gaining independence, today, Nigeria thrill behide South Africa in almost all positive developmental indices.



All these can’t be done without effective rule of law.
Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by kernel001: 12:56am On Nov 28, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:



Is it the fault of the concept of “Nigeria” or the citizens within?

A Nigerian is a Nigerian you know?
Every ethnic group share the same CURSE of greed and lack of the most basic fundamental, ethical compass that will endure successful propagation of the human race.

How will splitting Nigeria cute GENETIC CORRUPTION? undecided

In fact... I wish to give you details regarding what keeps me positive regarding Biafra.

1. Igbos for the past 14 years have topped all parallel exams in Nigeria, except one year in NECO.
2. Igbos helps their brothers. The system of (Booyi), have enabled Igbos to train their brothers in various businesses, making them the highest entrepreneurs in Nigeria.
3. They've done well in terms of Sports.
4. Innovations give it to Aba
5. Entertainment.

With all these you think they don't have what it takes to rule Africa? In fact, Apart from Southern Nigeria in all positive indices, where is the North?

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by kernel001: 12:57am On Nov 28, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:


All these can’t be done without effective rule of law.


Nigeria isn't ready for anything positive. Not even the rule of law.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by KanwuliaExtra: 1:01am On Nov 28, 2018
kernel001:



Nigeria isn't ready for anything positive. Not even the rule of law.

Biafra will? undecided
Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by oyin44: 1:06am On Nov 28, 2018
princfred:
How does Nigeria need Biafrans to survive? If that's the case why not give them a place of pride in the country. Does Biafra want to secede with all of South South? Are they not asking for there to be a referendum to truly know those who want to join them?
l didn't want to reply you before..but l would let you know the truth why Nigeria can't secede..The North are the majority people in Nigeria...the north is land locked..the wealth of the nation emanated from the south..if the south seceded. the north will suffer most... the North would never like giving the reins of power to the south cause the fears of secession ..especially the south east ..No matter what kanu and his henchmen try to do to secede Nigeria ..it will not be possible..the British are friends to the North before independent and after independent ..my friend try to understand.is not possible the result would be grave and hopeless not salvation and hope.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by kernel001: 1:45am On Nov 28, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:


Biafra will? undecided

The undying love and the passion that accompanys Biafra, speaks louder than voice.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by kernel001: 1:53am On Nov 28, 2018
oyin44:
l didn't want to reply you before..but l would let you know the truth why Nigeria can't secede..The North are the majority people in Nigeria...the north is land locked..the wealth of the nation emanated from the south..if the south seceded. the north will suffer most... the North would never like giving the reins of power to the south cause the fears of secession ..especially the south east ..No matter what kanu and his henchmen try to do to secede Nigeria ..it will not be possible..the British are friends to the North before independent and after independent ..my friend try to understand.is not possible the result would be grave and hopeless not salvation and hope.

Oyin! Britain isn't same as then. They've left Europe, Russia is hungry for new alleys.

The North can't never enjoy the support they had from all other ethnicity during the war, they've betrayed that. From Southern Kaduna to Shias. To middle belt , down South South.

Any conventional war, Boko Haram will over run Nigeria.

Nigeria is too poor to fight a war now. We literally borrow to eat, and you want to borrow to fund war? You can't be hungry while Nigeria is fighting.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by KanwuliaExtra: 1:56am On Nov 28, 2018
kernel001:


The undying love and the passion that accompanys Biafra, speaks louder than voice.

The worst form of deception is “self-deception”!
Desperation and love are not the same.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by princfred(m): 6:55am On Nov 28, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:


Oh please!
Are those Nigerians? undecided
No, they are from Cameroon decieve yourself.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by princfred(m): 7:02am On Nov 28, 2018
oyin44:
l didn't want to reply you before..but l would let you know the truth why Nigeria can't secede..The North are the majority people in Nigeria...the north is land locked..the wealth of the nation emanated from the south..if the south seceded. the north will suffer most... the North would never like giving the reins of power to the south cause the fears of secession ..especially the south east ..No matter what kanu and his henchmen try to do to secede Nigeria ..it will not be possible..the British are friends to the North before independent and after independent ..my friend try to understand.is not possible the result would be grave and hopeless not salvation and hope.
So that's a good reason to ruin the nation with evil nepotic leadership by the north? If they rule well and give everyone especially east justice,and stop the massacres from MB, SS, SE,SW and even North no one will want to leave such a good country for another. With FH, BH and nepotism in government appointments, quest for succession will continue. Or are they supposed to be enjoying and applauding the Islamic evil killings in the land?

As for Brits using foolish blacks to seek to oppress others, their time will come.
Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by kernel001: 1:13pm On Nov 28, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:


The worst form of deception is “self-deception”!
Desperation and love are not the same.


Anybody who told you to be yourself simply couldn't have given you worse advice, because some 18 century phones are smarter than some lots.

If a man isn't uncomfortable in pains, and wants a change, and you call him desperate after 60 years of daily retrogression, you may need medical help.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by Nobody: 1:44pm On Nov 28, 2018
kernel001:
Why are Nigerians more passionate about IPOB and Biafra related issues, instead of showing same level of energy and commitment to Nigerian plight?
I've watched my fellow Nigerians closely, they invest more energy plotting against IPOB and Biafra, instead of proffering solutions to issues mitigating the growth of the nation.

It's naturally expected to see citizens of any country to show ardent concern to their country first. Book Haram is ravaging the nation, killing over a 118 soldiers, people are loosing their jobs, no power ...Yet, the citizens are busy antagonising IPOB, who are tired of the status quo and need a change. Is it that Nigerians love the pain of joblessness, no power, insurgency and economic hardship?

Does it occur to many of us that by 2040, oil will sell less than $30 because, all European nations,USA and China will stop the use fossil cars? How do we generate revenue? Does it bother you?
We pay $30 per barrel to the Company that thrills oil from deep waters.

Defending Nigerian retrogression is like defending the devil. Countries like Mauritius, Cyrus, Brazil and Singapore got there independent around same time. And if you say population is the problem, what do you make of China,Brazil and USA?

I'm ashamed of you. Proffer solution(s) to the difficulties facing Nigeria, stop investing energy on others problem.
People love the failure called Nigger-Area too much grin

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by kernel001: 1:55pm On Nov 28, 2018
immhotep:

People love the failure called Nigger-Area too much grin

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Thanks man.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by IbrahimDamola: 2:16pm On Nov 28, 2018
We yoruba christians also wants seperation of nigeria but we yorubas only discuss oduduwa republic inside hotel rooms, in hush tones. Make Abooki no come suyalize us.

We fear pass anything, we no wan die yet Ibo population still plenty pass yoruba own despite their human loss in the 60s.

Na only God fit save our yoruba race from hypocrisy and cowardice.

cheesy

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by KanwuliaExtra: 4:42pm On Nov 28, 2018
kernel001:



Anybody who told you to be yourself simply couldn't have given you worse advice, because some 18 century phones are smarter than some lots.

If a man isn't uncomfortable in pains, and wants a change, and you call him desperate after 60 years of daily retrogression, you may need medical help.



Like the same socio-economic chains do not entangle ALL NIGERIANS? undecided

Because presidency must come from the EAST?
The greatest oppression the Igbos can suffer is from THE IGBOS. The constant whining is not getting anyone anywhere.

Forget Nigeria, Biafra is a state of mind, not a promised land.

Liberation should start from within the Igboland.
That is the true Biafra. kiss

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by kernel001: 4:55pm On Nov 28, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:


Like the same socio-economic chains do not entangle ALL NIGERIANS? undecided

Because presidency must come from the EAST?
The greatest oppression the Igbos can suffer is from THE IGBOS. The constant whining is not getting anyone anywhere.

Forget Nigeria, Biafra is a state of mind, not a promised land.

Liberation should start from within the Igboland.
That is the true Biafra. kiss

They've excelled in various fronts, ranging from commerce, education, sports, entertainment and innovations, what else will they long for, if not equal opportunity and some level of fairness.

They've made it a culture to help in training their fellow Igbos in various businesses without any legal agreement.

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by gidgiddy: 4:58pm On Nov 28, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:


Like the same socio-economic chains do not entangle ALL NIGERIANS? undecided

Because presidency must come from the EAST?
The greatest oppression the Igbos can suffer is from THE IGBOS. The constant whining is not getting anyone anywhere.

Forget Nigeria, Biafra is a state of mind, not a promised land.

Liberation should start from within the Igboland.
That is the true Biafra. kiss

How come Nigerians like fully understand the right of Nigeria to gets its independence from Britain? Nigerians even celebrate this every 1st October

But if an Igbo man talks about getting his independence from Nigeria as Biafra, the same Nigerian who celebrates his on freedom every 1st October will start saying:


"Biafra is a state of mind, not a promised land"



"Liberation should start from within the Igboland"


It is deciet to celebrate your liberation while denying others their right to be liberated

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by KanwuliaExtra: 3:24am On Nov 29, 2018
gidgiddy:


How come Nigerians like fully understand the right of Nigeria to gets its independence from Britain? Nigerians even celebrate this every 1st October

But if an Igbo man talks about getting his independence from Nigeria as Biafra, the same Nigerian who celebrates his on freedom every 1st October will start saying:


"Biafra is a state of mind, not a promised land"



"Liberation should start from within the Igboland"


It is deciet to celebrate your liberation while denying others their right to be liberated

I don’t think it is a fair analogy with Nigeria and Britain. Igbos are not oppressed in Nigeria.
Even within the IGBOS, there is no unity.
A Biafran nation in the hands of a few diaagreeing warlords will be catastrophic to everyone.

We have to find a way to make it work and restructuring Nigeria is the best route so far.

I do not support a BIAFRAN nation for the mere fact that IGBOS are no different from other Nigerians.

A Biafran nation will not work because there is no unity in Igboland just like all over Nigeria.

I hope the future generation of Igbos will forget this Biafra of a concept. It is not in the best interest of Igbos or Nigerians.
Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by KanwuliaExtra: 3:25am On Nov 29, 2018
kernel001:


They've excelled in various fronts, ranging from commerce, education, sports, entertainment and innovations, what else will they long for, if not equal opportunity and some level of fairness.

They've made it a culture to help in training their fellow Igbos in various businesses without any legal agreement.

You must be kidding right? shocked
I have seen instances where the Anambra man will look down on the Imo man as less sophisticated or “a Jew man”. The further you go into the East, you will find disharmony based on cultural differences.

Every part of Nigeria is excelling in its own right.
The Igbos are not superior to any other ethnic group in Nigeria. Each is unique with desirable and not so desirable qualities. That is the beauty of Nigeria.
Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by JoannaSedley(f): 5:59am On Nov 29, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:


You must be kidding right? shocked
I have seen instances where the Anambra man will look down on the Imo man as less sophisticated or “a Jew man”. The further you go into the East, you will find disharmony based on cultural differences.

Every part of Nigeria is excelling in its own right.
The Igbos are not superior to any other ethnic group in Nigeria. Each is unique with desirable and not so desirable qualities. That is the beauty of Nigeria.
What I see here is fear. Fear to make a move. The we die here attitude of most Nigerians that has never yielded anything positive.
There is disunity everywhere in the world ....UK internal strife between the Scots, Welsh etc. In the US, some States like Texas are angling for independence.
Give Biafra referendum and put it to rest once and for all. Ignoring it is postponing the inevitable because the quest for it will never go away.

NB: you have been out of this hellhole for long to make that second paragraph. Every part is not excelling and there is no right anywhere. Come back home and taste the excellency of every tribe, not what the media is churning out like some ruminant animals.

And Biafrans want to view the "beauty" of Nigeria from afar. That's not too much to ask. Is it?

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Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by orisa37: 6:12am On Nov 29, 2018
Because Biafra is unnecessary stumbling block to Miyetti Allah Fulani Herdsmen Takeover Southern Nigeria. Ihiajirika was a casuality signal to gej's defeat.
Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by orisa37: 7:06am On Nov 29, 2018
Biafra is a longer Route. Let us have Full Autonomy for our 36 States for security, resources and electioneering control and limit FG's responsibilities first, Nigeria will be The Cynosure of International eyes.
Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by MONIKERREVEALER: 8:46am On Nov 29, 2018
oyin44:
All what you have written above..is not enough to secede Nigeria..first... can biafra seceded without the south south..certainly,no,the north and SW didn't believe in secession..why..self interests..we need each other to survival.self interests and those that had faith in the continuity of oneness and united Nigeria.

"we need each other to survival"

mr man, what exactly does the south south need the south west for?

keep deceiving yourself.
Re: Why Are Nigerians More Passionate about Biafra Than Nigeria? by gidgiddy: 8:50am On Nov 29, 2018
KanwuliaExtra:


I don’t think it is a fair analogy with Nigeria and Britain. Igbos are not oppressed in Nigeria.
Even within the IGBOS, there is no unity.
A Biafran nation in the hands of a few diaagreeing warlords will be catastrophic to everyone.

We have to find a way to make it work and restructuring Nigeria is the best route so far.

I do not support a BIAFRAN nation for the mere fact that IGBOS are no different from other Nigerians.

A Biafran nation will not work because there is no unity in Igboland just like all over Nigeria.

I hope the future generation of Igbos will forget this Biafra of a concept. It is not in the best interest of Igbos or Nigerians.

You are looking at this the wrong way. Did the British oppress Nigerians? Maybe they did in the begining when they came to conquer every one but by and large, they did not. So why did Nigeria seek its independence from Britain if Britain wasn't oppressing them?

Scotland isn't being oppressed by Britain, in fact, Scotland is doing very well by being part of Britain, the 5th richest country in world.

So why did Scotland seek a referendum in 2014 where they voted on wether to leave or stay in Britain?

There is something called "self determination". It means controlling your land, your resources and your destiny. No matter how well a person is doing, if that person is under the control of another, they are not free.

Wether Igbos are oppressed or not is not the issue here, Scotland and Catalonia are not oppressed but they want to be on their own

Wether Igbos are united or not does not come into it, if people should be united and loving to each other before they get independence then there should be no Nigeria for we are not united either.

Gambia is not up to the population of the city of Enugu but it is an independent country but the future of over 40 million Igbos is being decided in a strange land called 'Abuja'.

I want Igbo land to a free and independent country, I want my future to be decided In Enugu, Aba, Igweocha or Abakiliki.

You better forget restructuring. People like you have been talking about restructuring for 50 years now, if you come back in another 50 years, they will still be talking about the same restructuring. The core North are totally against restructuring and they control 40% of the National Assembly, which is the only arm of government that can restructure Nigeria.

Even if things in Biafra are as bad as Nigeria, knowing that we Igbos are now our own masters is an unbeatable feeling.

As a true son of Igbo land, the greatest thing I can wish for my people is freedom and independence , with or without the other tribes that border Igbo land. This constant fighting with Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani over who gets what, when, how and why cannot be forever just because Lord Lugard brought us together in 1914

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