Prior to the start of the Roman catholic church, we have the new testament church where church leaders regard themselves as fellow brothers with all believers

After Constantine's new faith and subsequently the birth of the roman catholic church,members of the new testament church were persecuted especially the Ana baptist members in Switzerland and a new order of church was formed

Martin Luther in 1517 protested the spiritual slavery the church had subjected the people and emphasised that "the just shall live by faith." Luther was excommunicated from the Roman Catholic church and every other churches that came out of this are classified protestant Churches or protestsants.

Rome claimed the protestants are wrong and in fact believed they do not have the complete bible.

Rome believes the Pope is infallible.

They believe the general overseer is the high priest just as Rome believes the Pope is the high priest in principle.

After Constantine's new faith and subsequently the birth of the roman catholic church,members of the new testament church were persecuted especially the Ana baptist members in Switzerland and a new order of church was formed

"This article describes the Anabaptists of 16th-century Europe" That was the one of the 16th century a remnant of the new testament church.

It is clear that you are not an historian let alone bible history otherwise you would know that universal church is different from the church in Rome. Sorry mate if wikipedia is your main source of history you are lost!

Sorry mate if wikipedia is your main source of history you are lost!

John of Leiden (Dutch: Jan van Leiden, Jan Beukelsz or Jan Beukelszoon; aka John Bockold or John Bockelson) (1509? – January 22, 1536), was an Anabaptist leader from the Dutch city of Leiden.


Raised in poverty, young John became a charismatic leader who was widely revered by his followers. According to his own testimony, he went to the German city of Münster, arriving in 1533, because he had heard there were inspired preachers there. He sent for Jan Matthys, who had baptized him, to come. After his arrival Matthys – recognized as a prophet – became the principal leader in the city. Following a failed military attempt on Easter Sunday 1534, in which Matthys died, John of Leiden became King of Münster until its fall in June of 1535. The conventional view is that he set up in Münster a polygamous theocracy, best known for a law John passed stating that any unmarried woman must accept the first or any requests for a husband, with the result that men competed to acquire the most wives. Some sources report that John himself took sixteen wives, and that he publicly beheaded one of his wives after she rebelled against his authority. Karl Kautsky however, in his Communism in Central Europe at the Time of the Reformation, notes that this picture of Anabaptist Münster is based almost entirely on accounts written by the Anabaptists' enemies, who sought to justify their bloody reconquest of the city. Kautsky's reading of the sources emphasizes the Anabaptists' emphasis on social equality, political democracy, and communal living during the time of John's nominal rule.

The Münster Rebellion was an attempt by radical Anabaptists to establish a communal theocracy in the German city of Münster. The city became an Anabaptist center from 1534 to 1535, and fell under Anabaptist rule for 18 months


After the Peasants' War (1524/25), a second and more determined attempt to establish a theocracy was made at Münster, in Westphalia (1532–1535). Here the group had gained considerable influence, through the adhesion of Bernhard Rothmann, the Lutheran pastor, and several prominent citizens; and the leaders, Jan Matthys (also spelled Matthijs, Mathijsz, Matthyssen, Mathyszoon), a baker of Haarlem, and Jan Bockelson or Beukelszoon, a tailor of Leiden, had little difficulty in obtaining possession of the town and deposing the magistrates. Matthys was a follower of Melchior Hoffman, who, after Hoffman's imprisonment at Strasbourg, obtained a considerable following in the Low Countries, including Bockelson. Bockelson and Gerard Boekbinder had visited Münster, and returned with a report that Bernhard Rothmann was there teaching doctrines similar to their own. Matthys identified Münster as the "New Jerusalem", and on January 5, 1534, a number of his disciples entered the city and introduced adult baptism. Rothmann apparently accepted "rebaptism" that day, and well over 1000 adults were soon baptized. Vigorous preparations were made, not only to hold what had been gained, but to proceed from Münster toward the conquest of the world. The town was being besieged by Franz von Waldeck, its expelled bishop. In April 1534 on Easter Sunday, Matthys, who had prophesied God's judgment to come on the wicked on that day, made a sally with only thirty followers, believing that he was a second Gideon, and was cut off with his entire band. He was killed, his head severed and placed on a pole for all in the city to see, and his genitals nailed to the city gate. Bockelson, better known in history as John of Leiden, was subsequently installed as king.
Claiming to be the successor of David, he claimed royal honours and absolute power in the new "Zion". He justified his actions by the authority of visions from heaven, as others have done in similar circumstances. He legalized polygamy, and himself took sixteen wives. (John is said to have beheaded one wife himself in the marketplace; this act might have been falsely attributed to him after his death.) Community of goods was also established. After obstinate resistance the town was taken by the besiegers on June 24, 1535, and in January 1536 Bockelson and some of his more prominent followers, after being tortured, were executed in the marketplace. Their dead bodies were exhibited in cages, which hung from the steeple of St. Lambert's Church; the cages still hang there, though the bones were removed later.

It is clear that you are not an historian let alone bible history otherwise you would know that universal church is different from the church in Rome

do not want to push for history lessons. May be Chukwudi44 would need to know that the word "catholic" means universal.

catholic church ( universal church not RCC) was controlled by the church council in Jerusalem. All these time Rome was predominantly a pagan community and Christianity ( true Christianity) was not popular. In fact many believers were martyred.

GoldCircle:

interesting thread! meanwhile, @acidosis, Is the word 'Bible" in the bible?? How do you explain this??

Food for thought I guess!

Kx:

The only difference i can think of is
The pope flies AirItalia while most G.O's flies private jets.

Native_Cap:



Christianity is still evolving, and there will be different forms and interpretations, of Christianity in the next 1000 years. Which brings us to the question, what is Man, who was Christ, why are we here, what is Christianity, or is Christianity (or any religion infact) an excuse for Mans self-indulgence and subject to the every whim of Mans unpredictable nature?