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God Is Not In Control Of This World by noblejames: 8:04am On Dec 16, 2018
The Overt Notion:
Control: Going through the caption above, to many it insinuates insult on the side of God. It will not sound palatable in their ear; they will see it as something that tingle the ear. Somehow, people who tow this line of thought shouldn’t be blamed. This is because this thought has been the overview notion generally in acceptance. So it sounds unwise if someone can come up with a caption like this.

The reason is that in their subconscious being they have known God to be the owner of this world. Therefore, they shouldn’t see the reason for anyone to suggest otherwise when it comes to who controls the world. The fact is that the notion that God controls things in this world is overtly at home in people’s heart. In everything and situation that comes up the response is always “God Is In Control.” Merely looking at the situation of things in this world, one cannot help but ask, if God is really in control?
The word control is an English word and it means to regulate or govern, or better still a regulator or a governor. Therefore, when we say God Is In Control we are insinuating that He regulates or governs the world. Somehow, it shows that whatever that happens on the face of the earth is under His auspices.

This notion has opened an opportunity for people to ascribe wrong identity to God. And as a result many blame God for many things that have gone wrong in their life. A proper scriptural understanding of this topic can help us to resolve these wrong tags and blame on God.

The Hegemony Of Man:

Let’s see what God said in the book of Genesis:
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”

Genesis 1:26

The watch word in the verse above is this statement “and let them have dominion”. To have dominion simply means to have control over an enclave or thing. This indicates that the one that has the dominion dictate the pace of things or events. He or she call the shots and says what goes on. It is also an indication that every other thing is subject to him or her. So the person in question is the ruler of the enclave and every commands proceeds from him or her.
This shows that he or she has the final say and whatever he or she says stands and no one can alter it. Interestingly, God said and let them have dominion, He didn’t say let us have dominion over the earth. Therefore, man has a delegated authority to command affairs of the earth. Man is the regent of God on the earth. It implies that the earth knows no other God except man. So man is in control.

Control Demystifying The Declarations:

In order to demystify the claim of this topic, let’s see again what happen here in Genesis 2:8.

“And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.”

Here again, God formed the man and put him in the garden. Question: why did God put the man in the garden? The answer is in Genesis 2:15.

“And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.”

In quotation above, God reveals that it is the responsibility of the man to (1) dress the garden (2) and to keep it. The implication of this is that the total well-being of the garden lies in the hand of man not God. That is to say that, how wonderful, beautiful, clean and how depleted, rough and disfigured the garden appears will be the making of the man. Therefore, man takes control of what happens in the garden. Notice that the garden is the environment that the man lives and here God has given him the control.
It is clear that from Genesis 1:26, man is in charge of all the entities on the earth. And in Genesis 2:15, man has been given the authority to control his environment. So far, the implication of this is that God cannot control other entities for man. And He cannot as well controls man’s environment for him.

Controls In The Hand Of Man:

Let’s see again another thing God handed over to man to control.

“And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”

Genesis 2:16-17

The above quotations entail the level of freedom man has received. It shows it is total freedom over what he can consume. Man has the freedom to eat whatever he likes. So he’s in control of what he wants to eat, nobody tells him to eat this or that. He has the right to eat anything and any fruit. Be it the fruit of knowledge of good and evil or the fruit of life. Please stay on this contextually because the subject is not about the consequence of eating but the freedom to eat.

The freedom here is the control power given to man over what to eat and what not to eat. Another thing that God gave man power to control is death. Again look at the quotations above you can see that man has the power to die or not to die. It is stated clearly here that “for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” Man has the control or willpower as well to take the fruit of life and eat. Therefore, it is the responsibility of man to control his life. God cannot control man’s life for him.

To continue reading....

Source: https://www.talkingchristianityng.com/2018/12/12/control/

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Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by Trustme2(m): 8:06am On Dec 16, 2018
Ok. You can be in control. Control the moon the sun and the Stars for a start. Mumu post
Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by noblejames: 8:09am On Dec 16, 2018
Trustme2:
Ok. You can be in control. Control the moon the sun and the Stars for a start. Mumu post
This post shows that you cannot be trusted. It means you speak before you think...
Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by Bruno3000(m): 8:49am On Dec 16, 2018
ok o. let man or d devil start by preventing the sun from showing up or stop the earth's rotation.
op be careful.
Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by Fash20: 10:04am On Dec 16, 2018
Space booked
Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by Malocity(m): 10:16am On Dec 16, 2018
noblejames:

The Overt Notion:
Control: Going through the caption above, to many it insinuates insult on the side of God. It will not sound palatable in their ear; they will see it as something that tingle the ear. Somehow, people who tow this line of thought shouldn’t be blamed. This is because this thought has been the overview notion generally in acceptance. So it sounds unwise if someone can come up with a caption like this.

The reason is that in their subconscious being they have known God to be the owner of this world. Therefore, they shouldn’t see the reason for anyone to suggest otherwise when it comes to who controls the world. The fact is that the notion that God controls things in this world is overtly at home in people’s heart. In everything and situation that comes up the response is always “God Is In Control.” Merely looking at the situation of things in this world, one cannot help but ask, if God is really in control?
The word control is an English word and it means to regulate or govern, or better still a regulator or a governor. Therefore, when we say God Is In Control we are insinuating that He regulates or governs the world. Somehow, it shows that whatever that happens on the face of the earth is under His auspices.

This notion has opened an opportunity for people to ascribe wrong identity to God. And as a result many blame God for many things that have gone wrong in their life. A proper scriptural understanding of this topic can help us to resolve these wrong tags and blame on God.

The Hegemony Of Man:

Let’s see what God said in the book of Genesis:
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”

Genesis 1:26

The watch word in the verse above is this statement “and let them have dominion”. To have dominion simply means to have control over an enclave or thing. This indicates that the one that has the dominion dictate the pace of things or events. He or she call the shots and says what goes on. It is also an indication that every other thing is subject to him or her. So the person in question is the ruler of the enclave and every commands proceeds from him or her.
This shows that he or she has the final say and whatever he or she says stands and no one can alter it. Interestingly, God said and let them have dominion, He didn’t say let us have dominion over the earth. Therefore, man has a delegated authority to command affairs of the earth. Man is the regent of God on the earth. It implies that the earth knows no other God except man. So man is in control.

Control Demystifying The Declarations:

In order to demystify the claim of this topic, let’s see again what happen here in Genesis 2:8.

“And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.”

Here again, God formed the man and put him in the garden. Question: why did God put the man in the garden? The answer is in Genesis 2:15.

“And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.”

In quotation above, God reveals that it is the responsibility of the man to (1) dress the garden (2) and to keep it. The implication of this is that the total well-being of the garden lies in the hand of man not God. That is to say that, how wonderful, beautiful, clean and how depleted, rough and disfigured the garden appears will be the making of the man. Therefore, man takes control of what happens in the garden. Notice that the garden is the environment that the man lives and here God has given him the control.
It is clear that from Genesis 1:26, man is in charge of all the entities on the earth. And in Genesis 2:15, man has been given the authority to control his environment. So far, the implication of this is that God cannot control other entities for man. And He cannot as well controls man’s environment for him.

Controls In The Hand Of Man:

Let’s see again another thing God handed over to man to control.

“And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”

Genesis 2:16-17

The above quotations entail the level of freedom man has received. It shows it is total freedom over what he can consume. Man has the freedom to eat whatever he likes. So he’s in control of what he wants to eat, nobody tells him to eat this or that. He has the right to eat anything and any fruit. Be it the fruit of knowledge of good and evil or the fruit of life. Please stay on this contextually because the subject is not about the consequence of eating but the freedom to eat.

The freedom here is the control power given to man over what to eat and what not to eat. Another thing that God gave man power to control is death. Again look at the quotations above you can see that man has the power to die or not to die. It is stated clearly here that “for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” Man has the control or willpower as well to take the fruit of life and eat. Therefore, it is the responsibility of man to control his life. God cannot control man’s life for him.

To continue reading....

Source: https://www.talkingchristianityng.com/2018/12/12/control/

I UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING SAID HERE
You see the problem Christians have is that we see the Bible as a religious book. Hence already dogma and we don't dig deep to understand what God says and have said.

Actually, man was created to dominate earth as stated clearly by God himself and man was to work hand in hand with God in order to fulfill this task.

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Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by noblejames: 12:00pm On Dec 16, 2018
Bruno3000:
ok o. let man or d devil start by preventing the sun from showing up or stop the earth's rotation.
op be careful.
myopic reasoning be contextual and have understanding... The world here is the system of things... open your mind and learn
Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by Nobody: 5:42pm On Dec 16, 2018
If God is in control of this world, then why is it that 99% of earth's inhabitants don't care about what HE says and they're still walking about freely?
Ordinary human who can't see beyond his nose will not tolerate disobedience or rebellion, so i strongly agree with you that someone else is behind the scene that's controlling the minds of billions on the earth. 1John 5:19

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Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by Bruno3000(m): 9:02pm On Dec 16, 2018
noblejames:
myopic reasoning be contextual and have understanding... The world here is the system of things... open your mind and learn
if men were really in control why then do they sell their souls to d devil for fame, money n power? do you even know the secret place of the Most High and His modus operandi?
Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by noblejames: 10:56pm On Dec 16, 2018
Bruno3000:
if men were really in control why then do they sell their souls to d devil for fame, money n power? do you even know the secret place of the Most High and His modus operandi?
Another myopic reasoning on display. So as intelligent as you are you think that God is in control of this imperfect world. The system of this world is very tacky and cannot be a product of God's wisdom. Think again, God is also in control of this inept government (both past and present) in Nigeria... Please give me a break! We are in a world that is run by man and God has no hand in anything happening here period!
Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by noblejames: 11:04pm On Dec 16, 2018
Bruno3000:

if men were really in control why then do they sell their souls to d devil for fame, money n power? do you even know the secret place of the Most High and His modus operandi? This is statement is an oxymoron. Well, in order to help you, they sell their souls because they have control of their souls. God does not control the souls of men, unless you have submitted your soul to Him. That's why those who believe in God preach the gospel. Question: Why is it that God doesnt force people to believe in Him? If actually He is in control..
Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by Bruno3000(m): 11:28am On Dec 17, 2018
noblejames:
Another myopic reasoning on display. So as intelligent as you are you think that God is in control of this imperfect world. The system of this world is very tacky and cannot be a product of God's wisdom. Think again, God is also in control of this inept government (both past and present) in Nigeria... Please give me a break! We are in a world that is run by man and God has no hand in anything happening here period!
It's ur reasoning that is rather myopic. God does not, has not and will never forcefully exert His influence on man and this world. He's given man the FREEWILL to either follow Him and live forever(happiness and prosperity, devoid of misery) or be on their own and die(imperfections, corruption, poverty,greed, misery etc). When Adam was still in Eden and in fellowship with his maker did he lack anything? God TOOK CARE of his quality of living - total bliss, but that quality of life was taken away the moment he decided to pitch his tent with the devil.You may not understand all these if ur not deeply rooted in the things of the spirit. Am sure u know it is the spirit realm that control d physical world.
Again, how do u expect a spiritually dead world not to experience all the imperfections and ineptitudes?


Go back to fellowshipping with Ur maker and the whole world will be Eden, for man cannot create Eden without the maker of Eden. That's God being in overall control Mr.

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Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by Primesky(m): 2:04pm On Dec 17, 2018
This is totally false!. Jesus declared that Satan has been judged!.

Jesus also said all power in heaven and on earth has been given to Him.

The devil only seems to be in charge because we (Christians) are not exercising our authority which Jesus gave us, fully.
Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by Nobody: 2:31pm On Dec 17, 2018
Bruno3000:
It's ur reasoning that is rather myopic. God does not, has not and will never forcefully exert His influence on man and this world. He's given man the FREEWILL to either follow Him and live forever(happiness and prosperity, devoid of misery) or be on their own and die(imperfections, corruption, poverty,greed, misery etc). When Adam was still in Eden and in fellowship with his maker did he lack anything? God TOOK CARE of his quality of living - total bliss, but that quality of life was taken away the moment he decided to pitch his tent with the devil.You may not understand all these if ur not deeply rooted in the things of the spirit. Am sure u know it is the spirit realm that control d physical world.
Again, how do u expect a spiritually dead world not to experience all the imperfections and ineptitudes?


Go back to fellowshipping with Ur maker and the whole world will be Eden, for man cannot create Eden without the maker of Eden. That's God being in overall control Mr.
100% correct!
Whoever the majority are doing his will,that's exactly the one in control! John 14:30 compare to 1John 5:19

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Re: God Is Not In Control Of This World by noblejames: 11:56am On Dec 18, 2018
Bruno3000:
It's ur reasoning that is rather myopic. God does not, has not and will never forcefully exert His influence on man and this world. He's given man the FREEWILL to either follow Him and live forever(happiness and prosperity, devoid of misery) or be on their own and die(imperfections, corruption, poverty,greed, misery etc). When Adam was still in Eden and in fellowship with his maker did he lack anything? God TOOK CARE of his quality of living - total bliss, but that quality of life was taken away the moment he decided to pitch his tent with the devil.You may not understand all these if ur not deeply rooted in the things of the spirit. Am sure u know it is the spirit realm that control d physical world.
Again, how do u expect a spiritually dead world not to experience all the imperfections and ineptitudes?


Go back to fellowshipping with Ur maker and the whole world will be Eden, for man cannot create Eden without the maker of Eden. That's God being in overall control Mr.
Please mind the bold words from you. You keep on shooting yourself on your legs. Now, what is the argument? The point is that God is not in control of this world and you have just agreed with it. As far as I'm concerned this tacky system is not of God and does not demonstrate the wisdom of God. However, let me correct this notion that has been there for ages and it is a wrong notion as stated by you "Am sure u know it is the spirit realm that control d physical world". Please read Matthew 18:18 and interpret it yourself. Also, I urge you to read the whole write up even from the main website it will help to create a better understanding in your mind. I wish you the best of today!

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