Pusyiter:
The question is, Do the Northerners consider him to be from the North?
They do not see him like that.

bender79:
You have said nothing but affirm my position dunce!!!!!

Xander85:


Stay there and be getting a strong bone'r over road, while your country is fast disappearing into the abyss!

Governance for some of you starts and ends with 'what he brought to my village'....no one has a pan-Nigerian outlook towards governance at the centre! Latter now, you'd be deceptively screaming 'one Nigeria' and look at me quizzically, wanting to know why i'm not joining you in your madness!

Xander85:


Hateful m'oron....you should have qualified your statement better, and not generalised like it's every northerner that reasons like you schmucks! Are you including the christian middle-belt in your madness as well?

hisexcellency34:
Since Atiku Abubakar became the presidential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party PDP, many Northerners are not really excited about him. The euphoria is only in the South, especially the South East, South West and South South?

Can Atiku really divide Buhari's vote in the North?

nwanyionitsha:
You are not the only fulani from Mubi.
You have just one vote.

Xander85:


Stay there and be getting a strong bone'r over road, while your country is fast disappearing into the abyss!

Governance for some of you starts and ends with 'what he brought to my village'....no one has a pan-Nigerian outlook towards governance at the centre! Latter now, you'd be deceptively screaming 'one Nigeria' and look at me quizzically, wanting to know why i'm not joining you in your madness!

GarriKoro:
Onitsha boy you know nothing about northern Nigeria, stick to onithsha market threads

Wiseandtrue:

When there is nothing else to offer, go the ethnic division way

Oshigun:


My guy, the slide into recession now bedevilling Nigeria is something that was unavoidable because of PDP misrule and the 2015 crash of oil price from over $100 per barrel to around $25 per barrel in months after PMB became President. Today it is about $56.00 per barrel. If you don't fear man try to fear God because he won't bless you for trying to decieve others.

PMB is the best choice for now to get us beyond this unavoidable economic downturn . We are earning far less than we did under GEJ yet more is being achieved because we have a frugal and highly responsible manager in charge of our income. Even Donald Duke confessed that no President, however well-intentioned, can succeed under PDP's corrupt and profligate model of governance.

Go and vote your Atiku. We will return PMB to power, gradually crawl out of the crippling economic dowturn PDP caused and create a more robust and diversified economy that wont be at the mercy of corruption and on its knees everytime oil price crashes. Always remember that PDP had 16 years to address our woes yet you guys cannot even bear with the APC for 4 years and want us back to PDP Egypt.

Pusyiter:
The question is, Do the Northerners consider him to be from the North?
They do not see him like that.

FiftyFifty:
Good question. As someone from the North and from Atiku's state I think I can say something. Atiku is only an option if he's contesting with someone from the SE. Atiku can't defeat even the likes of Osinbajo in the North and this isn't hard to understand. Atiku's name is synonymous to corruption; North benefited nothing from his VP; his statement that Allah doesn't answer common man's prayer is fresh in our memory; so also the recent North and mud houses comment; he's generally seen as someone lacking in morality; his romance with Igbos too is a minus to him, his choice of Obi in particular; his desperation, remember he was in PDP, ACN, DPN, APC & now back to PDP again; and he's seen as someone who can't be relied upon. These are some of the reasons.
I'm from Mubi but I can't vote for Atiku when Buhari is in the race. Buhari is winning Adamawa entirely even Atiku knows this. We are comfortable having Yoruba as VP or President but certainly not an Igbo. We are just leaving with Igbos for now but we don't trust them. The event of January 15th is fresh in our memories. All the crowds following Atiku is a rented one. Remove Atiku from "his" money, he's nobody. 2019 election to an average Northerner is an easy ride for Buhari.
Let me stop here.

FiftyFifty:
Good question. As someone from the North and from Atiku's state I think I can say something. Atiku is only an option if he's contesting with someone from the SE. Atiku can't defeat even the likes of Osinbajo in the North and this isn't hard to understand. Atiku's name is synonymous to corruption; North benefited nothing from his VP; his statement that Allah doesn't answer common man's prayer is fresh in our memory; so also the recent North and mud houses comment; he's generally seen as someone lacking in morality; his romance with Igbos too is a minus to him, his choice of Obi in particular; his desperation, remember he was in PDP, ACN, DPN, APC & now back to PDP again; and he's seen as someone who can't be relied upon. These are some of the reasons.
I'm from Mubi but I can't vote for Atiku when Buhari is in the race. Buhari is winning Adamawa entirely even Atiku knows this. We are comfortable having Yoruba as VP or President but certainly not an Igbo. We are just leaving with Igbos for now but we don't trust them. The event of January 15th is fresh in our memories. All the crowds following Atiku is a rented one. Remove Atiku from "his" money, he's nobody. 2019 election to an average Northerner is an easy ride for Buhari.
Let me stop here.

FiftyFifty:


Bro calm down. Tell me what has Atiku brought to Nigeria?

Wiseandtrue:

So all the crowds that have being gathering to meet him in the North are from the South ABI

APC and their media propaganda

Fear fear! They can't go into a free and fair elections

Why are they ripping JIMI Agbaje's posters off in Lagos

When ICC will be coming for that fake late President Mohammed Buhari for his atrocities and I pray they take Tinubu along!

I can understand you, you are paid to do your job so quantinue

FiftyFifty:
Good question. As someone from the North and from Atiku's state I think I can say something. Atiku is only an option if he's contesting with someone from the SE. Atiku can't defeat even the likes of Osinbajo in the North and this isn't hard to understand. Atiku's name is synonymous to corruption; North benefited nothing from his VP; his statement that Allah doesn't answer common man's prayer is fresh in our memory; so also the recent North and mud houses comment; he's generally seen as someone lacking in morality; his romance with Igbos too is a minus to him, his choice of Obi in particular; his desperation, remember he was in PDP, ACN, DPN, APC & now back to PDP again; and he's seen as someone who can't be relied upon. These are some of the reasons.
I'm from Mubi but I can't vote for Atiku when Buhari is in the race. Buhari is winning Adamawa entirely even Atiku knows this. We are comfortable having Yoruba as VP or President but certainly not an Igbo. We are just leaving with Igbos for now but we don't trust them. The event of January 15th is fresh in our memories. All the crowds following Atiku is a rented one. Remove Atiku from "his" money, he's nobody. 2019 election to an average Northerner is an easy ride for Buhari.
Let me stop here.

Xander85:


Stay there and be getting a strong bone'r over road, while your country is fast disappearing into the abyss!

Governance for some of you starts and ends with 'what he brought to my village'....no one has a pan-Nigerian outlook towards governance at the centre! Latter now, you'd be deceptively screaming 'one Nigeria' and look at me quizzically, wanting to know why i'm not joining you in your madness!

trillville:



Yes, you are right. The 2016 recession was caused by Jonathan's negligence. Nigeria seems to be heading for another recession by next year and this one will squarely be on Buhari. Global demand for crude oil is diminishing as the whole world's economy slows. This spells doom for Nigeria as Buhari has wasted the last 4 years without making any meaningful change. I believe he has finally realised trouble is on the horizon that is why he is asking the governors for help.


On the matter of this thread. The core Muslim north will always vote for the more religious candidate. This is always a certainty. No election in Nigeria has been won solely based on the core northern vote. you can split Nigeria into 3 political zones.

1. The core north (north-east and north-west): consist of Muslim northerner.
2. The old eastern block (south-east and south-south): consists of Christians. Will only vote for a Christian or moderate Muslim.
3. The middle-belt and south-west: consist of all northern minority groups across all northern states and southwestern states. mixed religiously. will vote based on religious lines but usually tips the scale towards the more popular candidate.

This brief analysis implies that the core northern votes are usually countered by the old eastern block votes. Although the core north has a greater population size, the middle belt and the south-west typically hold the keys to getting elected.

In my opinion, the South-West will shock Buhari and this is Atiku's Joker.

Prompto:
Atiku agenda is Igbo agenda n also Biafra agenda.
The Igbo, their fathers n forefather have been failing at this since 1960 and will surely fail till the end of time so therefore

Atiku agenda = failure agenda
Final answer FAILURE.

trillville:


Buhari has done well in trying to tackle recession, remember the best way to tackle recession is for the Federal government to release stimulus packages, hold up the currency and pay for subsidies,
This is extremely false logic. Who told you this or where did you read this? The IMF advised Buhari to raise taxes, float the naira and invest in education and healthcare. This is the very same advice Bill Gates gave. But did Buhari listen. No!

America's economy and currency are different from Nigeria's. The US cannot devalue their currency to gain production advantages because the USD serves as a reserve currency. If America were to devalue its currency, lots of countries will cry foul. Nigeria is not in this complex position.

Nigeria's economic problems stem from 2 issues. Poor taxation on the part of the government and lack of productivity on the part of the citizenry.

Both issues are tied to our over dependence on crude oil revenues. What any serious government would do is to reduce the size of the current civil service and invest heavily in education (primary and secondary schools). By switching its spending from civil servants who produce nothing to building schools and employing lots of teachers, many poorer Nigerians will be able to earn a livelihood. This is what Buhari failed to understand and what El-Rufai kept stressing but buhari's dull cabal refused to understand.

No serious country leaves basic education to parents and private individuals. Both capitalist and socialist nations invest heavily in basic education. China's former One child policy was tied to this as their government is fully responsible for educating children.


but did PDP leave any money for this in the treasury? wasn't PDP already borrowing to pay salaries in the later years of GEJ's government, and what's worse even the borrowed funds were also looted.


Yes PDP messed up by relying totally on revenues from crude and also stealing the borrowed funds. No government has indebted Nigerians as this present government, please correct me if I am wrong.

Buhari and his cabal's only hope to revive Nigeria's economy rested on the recovery of oil prices. What shocks the hell out of me is that in the 1980’s, oil prices fell as a result of innovation in the industry (drilling of offshore rigs) and this affected Buhari in his first administration. oil prices only recovered momentarily during the early 90's gulf war, and prices remained low until the early 2000’s. That is a 20 to 30 year period. When Buhari chose to contest in 2015, intelligent Nigerians assumed he was aware of hydraulic drilling and the anticipated fall in prices for another possible 20 year period. But his first action was to tell NNPC to search for OIL in the north.


It took the US 3 years to get out recession, and trillions of Dollars was released from the US government, you now expect the same feat from Buhari? With which money if I may ask, from oil? At 25$/barrel at less than 300,000 bpd?


Every recession is different and the solutions to the recessions are different. Economics is a social science because it deals with human behavior towards policies implemented by the government. If all recessions had the same solution then economics would be a science. e.g. The boiling point of water is also 100 degrees centigrade, what goes up must come down due to gravity.


The majority blame the hardship we are going through now on Buhari, something PDP has succeeded in doing.

The majority are unfortunately wrong. However, if Nigeria falls into another recession, whether Buhari or Atiku or any other candidate is president, the full blame for the next recession is on Buhari and his Cabal for failing to take the necessary steps to protect the future of this country.


An example of different solutions to recessions. In the 2000 and 2008 recessions in the united states. Interest rates were reduced to stimulate bank lending. In Nigeria however, reducing interest rates would lead to a fall in demand for treasury bills which will lead to a fall in our foreign reserves as investors who bring in dollars to purchase treasury bills would not be interested in lower yields.

FiftyFifty:
Good question. As someone from the North and from Atiku's state I think I can say something. Atiku is only an option if he's contesting with someone from the SE. Atiku can't defeat even the likes of Osinbajo in the North and this isn't hard to understand. Atiku's name is synonymous to corruption; North benefited nothing from his VP; his statement that Allah doesn't answer common man's prayer is fresh in our memory; so also the recent North and mud houses comment; he's generally seen as someone lacking in morality; his romance with Igbos too is a minus to him, his choice of Obi in particular; his desperation, remember he was in PDP, ACN, DPN, APC & now back to PDP again; and he's seen as someone who can't be relied upon. These are some of the reasons.
I'm from Mubi but I can't vote for Atiku when Buhari is in the race. Buhari is winning Adamawa entirely even Atiku knows this. We are comfortable having Yoruba as VP or President but certainly not an Igbo. We are just leaving with Igbos for now but we don't trust them. The event of January 15th is fresh in our memories. All the crowds following Atiku is a rented one. Remove Atiku from "his" money, he's nobody. 2019 election to an average Northerner is an easy ride for Buhari.
Let me stop here.

pryme:


Buhari has done well in trying to tackle recession, remember the best way to tackle recession is for the Federal government to release stimulus packages, hold up the currency and pay for subsidies, but did PDP leave any money for this in the treasury? wasn't PDP already borrowing to pay salaries in the later years of GEJ's government, and what's worse even the borrowed funds were also looted.

It took the US 3 years to get out recession, and trillions of Dollars was released from the US government, you now expect the same feat from Buhari? With which money if I may ask, from oil? At 25$/barrel at less than 300,000 bpd?

The majority blame the hardship we are going through now on Buhari, something PDP has succeeded in doing.

gbolah1:


Very sound argument and analysis, from your own observation, what did you think is the way forward and which advice did you think you can give this goverment?
Do you think changing goverment is the best solution or allow the current ocupant to correct there mistake and put more pressure on them to do the right thing.
I need your unbiased response please as you may not know that so many high ranking goverment official are in this forum and they read people views and they might as well take the your advice and suggetion.
Awaiting your own suggetion

Xander85:


Stay there and be getting a strong bone'r over road, while your country is fast disappearing into the abyss!

Governance for some of you starts and ends with 'what he brought to my village'....no one has a pan-Nigerian outlook towards governance at the centre! Latter now, you'd be deceptively screaming 'one Nigeria' and look at me quizzically, wanting to know why i'm not joining you in your madness!

bless1015:
you are a Yoruba man shut up n be to accept ur identity.

FiftyFifty:


I'm Fulani from Mubi. Atiku couldn't even provide a good road for us as VP, Buhari is doing just that and someone think we can let him impose Atiku on us. Haba.

FiftyFifty:


Kai kajimin mahaukaci. Shiyasa ake cewa Nyamiri sai wayo ba hankali. Allah nuna mana February zaka sha mamaki. Wawa.