Hardebaryor:
Somebody is really abnormal on this thread. Everybody don turn to kufar. May Allah help you oo

Aqeedah is what makes a Muslim a Muslim.


No way we would talk about aqeedah that we won't talk about kufru wa iman

Abuheekmat:



Aqeedah is what makes a Muslim a Muslim.


No way we would talk about aqeedah that we won't talk about kufru wa iman

We are still waiting for two names of Muslims on this forum

Abuheekmat:



Everyone else is a Muslim except una kufar.. You and your brothers av mentioned

PM us the certificate pls.

Now mention how many of your family members both extended and nuclear are worthy of the certificate!

Abuheekmat:



So plenty.. Wallohi..

You are a kafir
Abdelkabir is a kafir
Emipree and albaqir and his shite brothers are kufar
Ladauna is a kafir
And their Sufi brothers

..
Other than that..

One of the worst things that a Muslim can do, is call his fellow
Muslim a disbeliever/Kafir.

The majority of people call each other Kafirs just because
someone does not believe in what they are following or their
group or there interpretation of an issue. So this is really
about rejecting group mentalities not about rejecting Islam
but so many of us reject what one group says and then call
them Kafirs. This ignorance has to stop, it really does I am so
tired of this backward mentality. The most shocking thing
about this fact is that almost everyone is doing this!
Irrespective of the group that they belong to, they are all doing it!

Reading the following prophetic narration should be enough to
make you stop and think before you move your mouths next
time:

Ibn Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the
Messenger of Allah (May Allah bestow peace and blessings
upon him) said, “If a man addresses his brother as, ‘O’
Disbeliever,’ it returns to one of them; either it is as he said or it
returns to him.” (Agreed upon – in both Bukhari 10/427 and
Muslim 60)


Do you really want to take the chance of calling someone a
disbeliever and this curse returning to you? Do you really want
to take that chance? Are you really that sure of yourself? The
curse of disbelief returns to the one who said it; if that person
he labelled as a disbeliever was not worthy of that name.
There are so many people who have not studied Islamic belief but find it totally acceptable to call someone a disbeliever.
How can you when you have not studied Islamic belief? How
can you be certain what is in people’s hearts? Don’t we
remember what happened to Usama ibn Zaid (may Allah be
pleased with them) when he killed a man who testified to
Islam but this individual after testifing kept coming back to
fight the Muslims? The Prophet (may Allah bestow peace and blessings upon him) kept asking Usama if he looked into his heart? Usama was so upset that he almost wished that he
had not accepted Islam. This is how severe this problem is.

Abu Dhar (may Allah be pleased with him) said that he heard
the Messenger of God (may Allah bestow peace and blessings
upon him) say, “Whoever addresses a man as a disbeliever or
calls him the enemy of God, and he is not, then it returns to
him.” (Agreed upon Bukhari 10/377 Muslim 61)

Is this not enough for you to stop this nonsense? Are we
following the Sunna of the Prophet (may Allah bestow peace
and blessing upon him) or are we making up our own? As it
seems that people have abandoned this Sunna a long, long
time ago. I have yet to find a hadith that the Prophet (may
Allah bestow peace and blessings be upon him) addressed
anyone as a disbeliever but we find this word as easy to use
as breathing.

WHAT PEOPLE THINK IS DISBELIEF BUT IT IS NOT

This is a sad list because what most people think is disbelief
is not actual disbelief because it might be a major sin.


- Rejection of a group methodology. It might not be a sin, it
might be sin.

-Dress, hats, ties etc. There are many incorrect Fatwas that
state wearing a particular type of dress is belief. This is also
incorrect. It might be a major sin for Muslim to look like a
priest but not disbelief.

- Transmitting a statement of disbelief is not disbelief. When
warning or explaining to someone.

- Seeing a fortune teller or horoscopes is a major sin not
disbelief. The hadith is a warning because it is singular.

- Despairing of the mercy of Allah (the Exalted) is a major sin
but not kufr.

- Rejecting rare hadith. This is complicated, because it is only disbelief if it mass transmitted. Otherwise it could be a sin but not kufr to reject rare hadith when it opposes other stronger hadith.

- There are things that are in books of fiqh and so forth, that
the writer may deem as kufr but it is not kufr but major sin. He said it was kufr to stop people from doing it. So just becausesomeone said doing 'X' is kufr, in a book, does not mean that is how it actually is.


OUTWARDLY MUSLIM?

Ibn Daqiq Al-'Id said in commentary of the forty hadith of
Imam Nawawi, "Al-Khattabi mentioned this, stating, “There are people who are outwardly Muslim but secretly disbelievers; we accept their outward Islam.’ This is the opinion of most of the scholars."


We do not pry about peoples faith. If they say that there are
Muslim that is sufficient. The only exception is when there is a genuine reason to trust that.

abdulazeez1002:

One of the worst things that a Muslim can do, is call his fellow
Muslim a disbeliever/Kafir.

The majority of people call each other Kafirs just because
someone does not believe in what they are following or their
group or there interpretation of an issue. So this is really
about rejecting group mentalities not about rejecting Islam
but so many of us reject what one group says and then call
them Kafirs. This ignorance has to stop, it really does I am so
tired of this backward mentality. The most shocking thing
about this fact is that almost everyone is doing this!
Irrespective of the group that they belong to, they are all doing it!

Reading the following prophetic narration should be enough to
make you stop and think before you move your mouths next
time:

Ibn Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the
Messenger of Allah (May Allah bestow peace and blessings
upon him) said, “If a man addresses his brother as, ‘O’
Disbeliever,’ it returns to one of them; either it is as he said or it
returns to him.” (Agreed upon – in both Bukhari 10/427 and
Muslim 60)


Do you really want to take the chance of calling someone a
disbeliever and this curse returning to you? Do you really want
to take that chance? Are you really that sure of yourself? The
curse of disbelief returns to the one who said it; if that person
he labelled as a disbeliever was not worthy of that name.
There are so many people who have not studied Islamic belief but find it totally acceptable to call someone a disbeliever.
How can you when you have not studied Islamic belief? How
can you be certain what is in people’s hearts? Don’t we
remember what happened to Usama ibn Zaid (may Allah be
pleased with them) when he killed a man who testified to
Islam but this individual after testifing kept coming back to
fight the Muslims? The Prophet (may Allah bestow peace and blessings upon him) kept asking Usama if he looked into his heart? Usama was so upset that he almost wished that he
had not accepted Islam. This is how severe this problem is.

Abu Dhar (may Allah be pleased with him) said that he heard
the Messenger of God (may Allah bestow peace and blessings
upon him) say, “Whoever addresses a man as a disbeliever or
calls him the enemy of God, and he is not, then it returns to
him.” (Agreed upon Bukhari 10/377 Muslim 61)

Is this not enough for you to stop this nonsense? Are we
following the Sunna of the Prophet (may Allah bestow peace
and blessing upon him) or are we making up our own? As it
seems that people have abandoned this Sunna a long, long
time ago. I have yet to find a hadith that the Prophet (may
Allah bestow peace and blessings be upon him) addressed
anyone as a disbeliever but we find this word as easy to use
as breathing.

WHAT PEOPLE THINK IS DISBELIEF BUT IT IS NOT

This is a sad list because what most people think is disbelief
is not actual disbelief because it might be a major sin.


- Rejection of a group methodology. It might not be a sin, it
might be sin.

-Dress, hats, ties etc. There are many incorrect Fatwas that
state wearing a particular type of dress is belief. This is also
incorrect. It might be a major sin for Muslim to look like a
priest but not disbelief.

- Transmitting a statement of disbelief is not disbelief. When
warning or explaining to someone.

- Seeing a fortune teller or horoscopes is a major sin not
disbelief. The hadith is a warning because it is singular.

- Despairing of the mercy of Allah (the Exalted) is a major sin
but not kufr.

- Rejecting rare hadith. This is complicated, because it is only disbelief if it mass transmitted. Otherwise it could be a sin but not kufr to reject rare hadith when it opposes other stronger hadith.

- There are things that are in books of fiqh and so forth, that
the writer may deem as kufr but it is not kufr but major sin. He said it was kufr to stop people from doing it. So just becausesomeone said doing 'X' is kufr, in a book, does not mean that is how it actually is.


OUTWARDLY MUSLIM?

Ibn Daqiq Al-'Id said in commentary of the forty hadith of
Imam Nawawi, "Al-Khattabi mentioned this, stating, “There are people who are outwardly Muslim but secretly disbelievers; we accept their outward Islam.’ This is the opinion of most of the scholars."


We do not pry about peoples faith. If they say that there are
Muslim that is sufficient. The only exception is when there is a genuine reason to trust that.

Who is this one. . This is the 2nd time you will display your ignorance about deen... But this time ,I won't ignore you. .

..
Tell me ..is khawarij Muslim or kufar ?
Then explain why?
Then explain the difference between sects claiming islam and khawarij

Abuheekmat:



Who is this one. . This is the 2nd time you will display your ignorance about deen... But this time ,I won't ignore you. .

..
Tell me ..is khawarij Muslim or kufar ?
Then explain why?
Then explain the difference between sects claiming islam and khawarij

As I said before, get off your butt online and start searching for knowledge but let me answer your question.


The Khawaarij are followers of whims and desires
and innovation who have deviated from the path of
Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah, but we do not
describe them as disbelievers because of their
innovation, unlike others who follow whims and
desires.

An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
The view of ash-Shaafa‘i and the majority of his
fellow scholars is that the Khawaarij are not to be
described as disbelievers; this also applies to the
Qadariyyah and the majority of the Mu‘tazilah and
other groups that follow whims and desires.

End quote from Sharh Muslim, 7/160

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have
mercy on him) said:

The Khawaarij who deviated, whom the Prophet
(blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) enjoined
us to fight, and whom Ameer al-Mu’mineen ‘Ali
(may Allah be pleased with him), one of the Rightly-
Guided Caliphs fought, and whom the leading
scholars of Islam among the Sahaabah, Taabi‘een
and those who came after them were unanimously
agreed upon fighting, were not described as
disbelievers by ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib, Sa‘d ibn Abi
Waqqaas and others among the Sahaabah; rather
they regarded them as Muslims even though they
fought them, and ‘Ali did not fight them until they
shed blood unlawfully and raided the property of
the Muslims; then he fought them in order to ward
off their wrongdoing and aggression, not because
they were disbelievers. Hence he did not take their
womenfolk captive and he did not seize their wealth
as booty.
End quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa, 3/282

Ibn ‘Aabideen (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
Even though you may find that some scholars, within
the context of debating with the Mu‘tazilah and
other groups, use the word kufr (disbelief) when
refuting their arguments, what they meant is that
their (the Mu‘tazilah’s) arguments would inevitably
constitute disbelief, without implying that they
themselves were disbelievers, because what may be
concluded from a view is not necessarily to be
attributed to the one who holds that view.
Moreover, they think that they have shar‘i evidence
to support their view, even though they are wrong
and are falling into error.
End quote from Haashiyat Ibn ‘Aabideen, 3/46


Shaykh ‘Abd ar-Rahmaan ibn Saalih al-Mahmoud
(may Allah preserve him) was asked: Are the
Khawaarij kaafirs (disbelievers)?

He replied:

The scholars differed as to whether they are
disbelievers, but the correct view is that they are not
to be regarded as disbelievers. ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib
(may Allah be pleased with him) was asked about
them: Are they disbelievers? He said: They fled
from disbelief, but they fell into the innovation of
labelling others as disbelievers; we will not fall into
the innovation of labelling others as disbelievers
and thus label them as such. This is the correct
view, in sha Allah, even though their innovations
may be described as innovations that constitute
kufr.


Among their innovations are the following:

- They think that failing to do something obligatory
constitutes disbelief.
- They think that committing a major sin constitutes
disbelief.
- They believe in fighting those Muslims who
disagree with them.

And Allah knows best.

abdulazeez1002:


As I said before, get off your butt online and start searching for knowledge but let me answer your question.


The Khawaarij are followers of whims and desires
and innovation who have deviated from the path of
Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah, but we do not
describe them as disbelievers because of their
innovation, unlike others who follow whims and
desires.

An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
The view of ash-Shaafa‘i and the majority of his
fellow scholars is that the Khawaarij are not to be
described as disbelievers; this also applies to the
Qadariyyah and the majority of the Mu‘tazilah and
other groups that follow whims and desires.

End quote from Sharh Muslim, 7/160

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have
mercy on him) said:

The Khawaarij who deviated, whom the Prophet
(blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) enjoined
us to fight, and whom Ameer al-Mu’mineen ‘Ali
(may Allah be pleased with him), one of the Rightly-
Guided Caliphs fought, and whom the leading
scholars of Islam among the Sahaabah, Taabi‘een
and those who came after them were unanimously
agreed upon fighting, were not described as
disbelievers by ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib, Sa‘d ibn Abi
Waqqaas and others among the Sahaabah; rather
they regarded them as Muslims even though they
fought them, and ‘Ali did not fight them until they
shed blood unlawfully and raided the property of
the Muslims; then he fought them in order to ward
off their wrongdoing and aggression, not because
they were disbelievers. Hence he did not take their
womenfolk captive and he did not seize their wealth
as booty.
End quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa, 3/282

Ibn ‘Aabideen (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
Even though you may find that some scholars, within
the context of debating with the Mu‘tazilah and
other groups, use the word kufr (disbelief) when
refuting their arguments, what they meant is that
their (the Mu‘tazilah’s) arguments would inevitably
constitute disbelief, without implying that they
themselves were disbelievers, because what may be
concluded from a view is not necessarily to be
attributed to the one who holds that view.
Moreover, they think that they have shar‘i evidence
to support their view, even though they are wrong
and are falling into error.
End quote from Haashiyat Ibn ‘Aabideen, 3/46


Shaykh ‘Abd ar-Rahmaan ibn Saalih al-Mahmoud
(may Allah preserve him) was asked: Are the
Khawaarij kaafirs (disbelievers)?

He replied:

The scholars differed as to whether they are
disbelievers, but the correct view is that they are not
to be regarded as disbelievers. ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib
(may Allah be pleased with him) was asked about
them: Are they disbelievers? He said: They fled
from disbelief, but they fell into the innovation of
labelling others as disbelievers; we will not fall into
the innovation of labelling others as disbelievers
and thus label them as such. This is the correct
view, in sha Allah, even though their innovations
may be described as innovations that constitute
kufr.


Among their innovations are the following:

- They think that failing to do something obligatory
constitutes disbelief.
- They think that committing a major sin constitutes
disbelief.
- They believe in fighting those Muslims who
disagree with them.

And Allah knows best.

Failed question...

Question 2..
Can one make takfeer of a Muslim that falls into kufru after shurrot is complete on the person?

Abuheekmat:



Failed question...

Question 2..
Can one make takfeer of a Muslim that falls into kufru after shurrot is complete on the person?

others will not tell you the truth but I will.
Your brain is full of fufu.


Can you read at all?
You called a Muslim kafir, I corrected you. You called kawaarij kufar, I still corrected you. And now you are asking another unrelated question from your dumb head. Who are you to dictate who is kafir and who is not.

As I said before, get off your butt online and start searching for knowledge. And stop displaying your illiteracy.

abdulazeez1002:

others will not tell you the truth but I will.
Your brain is full of fufu.


Can you read at all?
You called a Muslim kafir, I corrected you. You called kawaarij kufar, I still corrected you. And now you are asking another unrelated question from your dumb head. Who are you to dictate who is kafir and who is not.

As I said before, get off your butt online and start searching for knowledge. And stop displaying your illiteracy.

Laughing...

You failed question 1.

Kindly answer question 2.
Can we call a Muslim that reject iman a kafir..

abdulazeez1002:

others will not tell you the truth but I will.
Your brain is full of fufu.


Can you read at all?
You called a Muslim kafir, I corrected you. You called kawaarij kufar, I still corrected you. And now you are asking another unrelated question from your dumb head. Who are you to dictate who is kafir and who is not.

As I said before, get off your butt online and start searching for knowledge. And stop displaying your illiteracy.

Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَاحِدِ، حَدَّثَنَا الشَّيْبَانِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا يُسَيْرُ بْنُ عَمْرٍو، قَالَ قُلْتُ لِسَهْلِ بْنِ حُنَيْفٍ هَلْ سَمِعْتَ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ فِي الْخَوَارِجِ شَيْئًا قَالَ سَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ ـ وَأَهْوَى بِيَدِهِ قِبَلَ الْعِرَاقِ ـ ‏

‏ يَخْرُجُ مِنْهُ قَوْمٌ يَقْرَءُونَ الْقُرْآنَ لاَ يُجَاوِزُ تَرَاقِيَهُمْ، يَمْرُقُونَ مِنَ الإِسْلاَمِ مُرُوقَ السَّهْمِ مِنَ الرَّمِيَّةِ ‏"

‏‏‏

Narrated Yusair bin `Amr:

I asked Sahl bin Hunaif, "Did you hear the Prophet (ﷺ) saying anything about Al-Khawarij?" He said, "I heard him saying while pointing his hand towards Iraq. "There will appear in it (1:e, Iraq) some people who will recite the Qur'an but it will not go beyond their throats, and they will go out from (leave) Islam as an arrow darts through the game's body.' "



Sahih al-Bukhari 6934
In-book : Book 88, Hadith 16
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 9, Book 84, Hadith 68  (deprecated)



EXPLAIN THIS HADITH #MR SCHOLAR QUOTER

Abuheekmat:



Laughing...

You failed question 1.

Kindly answer question 2.
Can we call a Muslim that reject iman a kafir..

Dear illiterate
How does that your question relate to what I typed above. I won't stop advising you, get off your butt online and searching Islamic knowledge. You are religiously not sound and very dumb at the same time. I pity you

abdulazeez1002:

Dear illiterate
How does that your question relate to what I typed above. I won't stop advising you, get off your butt online and searching Islamic knowledge. You are religiously not sound and very dumb at the same time. I pity you

Laughing...


Do you know my sheik ..


Sheik Muhammad Ali Jabata..


Who's your alfa.. Je ka gbo

Abuheekmat:



Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَاحِدِ، حَدَّثَنَا الشَّيْبَانِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا يُسَيْرُ بْنُ عَمْرٍو، قَالَ قُلْتُ لِسَهْلِ بْنِ حُنَيْفٍ هَلْ سَمِعْتَ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ فِي الْخَوَارِجِ شَيْئًا قَالَ سَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ ـ وَأَهْوَى بِيَدِهِ قِبَلَ الْعِرَاقِ ـ ‏

‏ يَخْرُجُ مِنْهُ قَوْمٌ يَقْرَءُونَ الْقُرْآنَ لاَ يُجَاوِزُ تَرَاقِيَهُمْ، يَمْرُقُونَ مِنَ الإِسْلاَمِ مُرُوقَ السَّهْمِ مِنَ الرَّمِيَّةِ ‏"

‏‏‏

Narrated Yusair bin `Amr:

I asked Sahl bin Hunaif, "Did you hear the Prophet (ﷺ) saying anything about Al-Khawarij?" He said, "I heard him saying while pointing his hand towards Iraq. "There will appear in it (1:e, Iraq) some people who will recite the Qur'an but it will not go beyond their throats, and they will go out from (leave) Islam as an arrow darts through the game's body.' "



Sahih al-Bukhari 6934
In-book : Book 88, Hadith 16
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 9, Book 84, Hadith 68  (deprecated)



EXPLAIN THIS HADITH #MR SCHOLAR QUOTER

Can't you read at all??

Try to read what I posted earlier but this time slowly


But let me help you summarize it. kawarij are not kufar, it's just their innovations that constitute kufr.

abdulazeez1002:

Can't you read at all??

Try to read what I posted earlier but this time slowly


But let me help you summarize it. kawarij are not kufar, it's just their innovations that constitute kufr.

Laughing out loud... Who will come laugh with me o.
Kikikikikikikikiiki..

They are not kufar but their bidha is kufru..


Laughing..

Abuheekmat:


Laughing...

Do you know my sheik ..

Sheik Muhammad Ali Jabata..

Who's your alfa.. Je ka gbo

Who cares about Sheikh??

abdulazeez1002:

Can't you read at all??

Try to read what I posted earlier but this time slowly


But let me help you summarize it. kawarij are not kufar, it's just their innovations that constitute kufr.

Hadith



حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو كُرَيْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعٌ، عَنِ الرَّبِيعِ بْنِ صَبِيحٍ، وَحَمَّادِ بْنِ سَلَمَةَ، عَنْ أَبِي غَالِبٍ، قَالَ رَأَى أَبُو أُمَامَةَ رُءُوسًا مَنْصُوبَةً عَلَى دَرَجِ مَسْجِدِ دِمَشْقَ فَقَالَ أَبُو أُمَامَةَ ‏‏ كِلاَبُ النَّارِ شَرُّ قَتْلَى تَحْتَ أَدِيمِ السَّمَاءِ خَيْرُ قَتْلَى مَنْ قَتَلُوهُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ ثُمَّ قَرَأَ ‏:‏ ‏(‏ يَوْمَ تَبْيَضُّ وُجُوهٌ وَتَسْوَدُّ وُجُوهٌ ‏)‏ إِلَى آخِرِ الآيَةِ قُلْتُ لأَبِي أُمَامَةَ أَنْتَ سَمِعْتَهُ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ لَوْ لَمْ أَسْمَعْهُ إِلاَّ مَرَّةً أَوْ مَرَّتَيْنِ أَوْ ثَلاَثًا أَوْ أَرْبَعًا حَتَّى عَدَّ سَبْعًا مَا حَدَّثْتُكُمُوهُ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ وَأَبُو غَالِبٍ يُقَالُ اسْمُهُ حَزَوَّرُ وَأَبُو أُمَامَةَ الْبَاهِلِيُّ اسْمُهُ صُدَىُّ بْنُ عَجْلاَنَ وَهُوَ سَيِّدُ بَاهِلَةَ ‏.‏"



Narrated Abu Ghalib:

"Abu Umamah saw heads (of the Khawarij) hanging on the streets of Damascus. He said: 'The dogs of the Fire and the worst dead people under the canopy of the heavens. The best dead men are those whom these have killed.' He then recited: On the Day when some faces will become white and some faces will become black... (3:106) until the end of the Ayah. I said to Abu Umamah: 'Did you hear it from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ)?' He said: 'If I had not heard it but one time, or two times, or three times, or four times - until he reached seven - I would not have narrated it to you.'"

Hasan (Darussalam)

English : Vol. 5, Book 44, Hadith 3000
Arabic : Book 47, Hadith 3270

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Explain this too o..
Laughing

abdulazeez1002:

Who cares about Sheikh??

Who do you learn from ooooooo

Abuheekmat:

Who will come laugh at my illiteracy
They are not kufar but their bidha constitute kufru..

Laughing..

CONSTITUTE You illiterate.

abdulazeez1002:


CONSTITUTE You illiterate.

Hadith



حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ، أَنْبَأَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَمْرٍو، عَنْ أَبِي سَلَمَةَ، قَالَ قُلْتُ لأَبِي سَعِيدٍ الْخُدْرِيِّ هَلْ سَمِعْتَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ يَذْكُرُ فِي الْحَرُورِيَّةِ شَيْئًا فَقَالَ سَمِعْتُهُ يَذْكُرُ قَوْمًا يَتَعَبَّدُونَ ‏‏ يَحْقِرُ أَحَدُكُمْ صَلاَتَهُ مَعَ صَلاَتِهِمْ وَصَوْمَهُ مَعَ صَوْمِهِمْ يَمْرُقُونَ مِنَ الدِّينِ كَمَا يَمْرُقُ السَّهْمُ مِنَ الرَّمِيَّةِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ أَخَذَ سَهْمَهُ فَنَظَرَ فِي نَصْلِهِ فَلَمْ يَرَ شَيْئًا فَنَظَرَ فِي رِصَافِهِ فَلَمْ يَرَ شَيْئًا فَنَظَرَ فِي قِدْحِهِ فَلَمْ يَرَ شَيْئًا فَنَظَرَ فِي الْقُذَذِ فَتَمَارَى هَلْ يَرَى شَيْئًا أَمْ لاَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏"



It was narrated that Abu Salamah said:

"I said to Abu Sa'eed Khudri: 'Did you hear the Messenger of Allah mention anything about the Haruriyyah (a sect of Khawarij)?' He said: 'I heard him mention a people who would appear to be devoted worshippers: "Such that anyone of you would regard his own prayer and fasting as insignificant when compared to theirs. But they will pass through Islam like an arrow passing through its target, then he (the archer) picks up his arrow and looks at its iron head but does not see anything, then he looks at the shaft and does not see anything, then he looks at the band: that which is wrapped around the iron head where it is connected to the shaft, then he looks at the feather and is not sure whether he sees anything or not."

Sahih (Darussalam)

English : Vol. 1, Book 1, Hadith 169
Arabic : Book 1, Hadith 174

Keep refuting rosul with mistakes of scholars.


Olodo oshi ..

Laughing

Abuheekmat:



Hadith



حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو كُرَيْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعٌ، عَنِ الرَّبِيعِ بْنِ صَبِيحٍ، وَحَمَّادِ بْنِ سَلَمَةَ، عَنْ أَبِي غَالِبٍ، قَالَ رَأَى أَبُو أُمَامَةَ رُءُوسًا مَنْصُوبَةً عَلَى دَرَجِ مَسْجِدِ دِمَشْقَ فَقَالَ أَبُو أُمَامَةَ ‏‏ كِلاَبُ النَّارِ شَرُّ قَتْلَى تَحْتَ أَدِيمِ السَّمَاءِ خَيْرُ قَتْلَى مَنْ قَتَلُوهُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ ثُمَّ قَرَأَ ‏:‏ ‏(‏ يَوْمَ تَبْيَضُّ وُجُوهٌ وَتَسْوَدُّ وُجُوهٌ ‏)‏ إِلَى آخِرِ الآيَةِ قُلْتُ لأَبِي أُمَامَةَ أَنْتَ سَمِعْتَهُ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ لَوْ لَمْ أَسْمَعْهُ إِلاَّ مَرَّةً أَوْ مَرَّتَيْنِ أَوْ ثَلاَثًا أَوْ أَرْبَعًا حَتَّى عَدَّ سَبْعًا مَا حَدَّثْتُكُمُوهُ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ وَأَبُو غَالِبٍ يُقَالُ اسْمُهُ حَزَوَّرُ وَأَبُو أُمَامَةَ الْبَاهِلِيُّ اسْمُهُ صُدَىُّ بْنُ عَجْلاَنَ وَهُوَ سَيِّدُ بَاهِلَةَ ‏.‏"



Narrated Abu Ghalib:

"Abu Umamah saw heads (of the Khawarij) hanging on the streets of Damascus. He said: 'The dogs of the Fire and the worst dead people under the canopy of the heavens. The best dead men are those whom these have killed.' He then recited: On the Day when some faces will become white and some faces will become black... (3:106) until the end of the Ayah. I said to Abu Umamah: 'Did you hear it from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ)?' He said: 'If I had not heard it but one time, or two times, or three times, or four times - until he reached seven - I would not have narrated it to you.'"

Hasan (Darussalam)

English : Vol. 5, Book 44, Hadith 3000
Arabic : Book 47, Hadith 3270

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Explain this too o..
Laughing

You illiterate. try to read and understand


Ibn ‘Aabideen (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
Even though you may find that some scholars, within
the context of debating with the Mu‘tazilah and
other groups, use the word kufr (disbelief) when
refuting their arguments, what they meant is that
their (the Mu‘tazilah’s) arguments would inevitably
constitute disbelief, without implying that they
themselves were disbelievers, because what may be
concluded from a view is not necessarily to be
attributed to the one who holds that view.
Moreover, they think that they have shar‘i evidence
to support their view, even though they are wrong
and are falling into error.

End quote from Haashiyat Ibn ‘Aabideen, 3/46

Shaykh ‘Abd ar-Rahmaan ibn Saalih al-Mahmoud
(may Allah preserve him) was asked: Are the
Khawaarij kaafirs (disbelievers)?
He replied

The scholars differed as to whether they are
disbelievers, but the correct view is that they are not
to be regarded as disbelievers. ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib
(may Allah be pleased with him) was asked about
them: Are they disbelievers? He said: They fled
from disbelief, but they fell into the innovation of
labelling others as disbelievers; we will not fall into
the innovation of labelling others as disbelievers
and thus label them as such. This is the correct
view, in sha Allah, even though their innovations
may be described as innovations that constitute
kufr.

abdulazeez1002:


CONSTITUTE You illiterate.

Explain with dalil from rousl or sahabah NOT ALFA why khawarij are Muslims o..

Laughing .

As worst as kufar alaro, sarumi ,ejigbo, amubieya and others .. They even know khawarij are kufar..


You are too far from knowledge o..


Laughing

abdulazeez1002:

You illiterate. try to read and understand


Ibn ‘Aabideen (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
Even though you may find that some scholars, within
the context of debating with the Mu‘tazilah and
other groups, use the word kufr (disbelief) when
refuting their arguments, what they meant is that
their (the Mu‘tazilah’s) arguments would inevitably
constitute disbelief, without implying that they
themselves were disbelievers, because what may be
concluded from a view is not necessarily to be
attributed to the one who holds that view.
Moreover, they think that they have shar‘i evidence
to support their view, even though they are wrong
and are falling into error.

End quote from Haashiyat Ibn ‘Aabideen, 3/46

Shaykh ‘Abd ar-Rahmaan ibn Saalih al-Mahmoud
(may Allah preserve him) was asked: Are the
Khawaarij kaafirs (disbelievers)?
He replied

The scholars differed as to whether they are
disbelievers, but the correct view is that they are not
to be regarded as disbelievers. ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib
(may Allah be pleased with him) was asked about
them: Are they disbelievers? He said: They fled
from disbelief, but they fell into the innovation of
labelling others as disbelievers; we will not fall into
the innovation of labelling others as disbelievers
and thus label them as such. This is the correct
view, in sha Allah, even though their innovations
may be described as innovations that constitute
kufr.

Copy and paste master. ..

Laughing. .


Its scholars that Allah sent to u abi ..

Oponu ..

You see hadith where rosul call khawarij kufar, told sahabahs to kill them, you saw hadith where sahabahs kill them, call them dog of fire, said the worst slain on earth is khawarij and best slain is those who khawarij killed .


And you rejected it all because of oro alfa




Agbako ni e fa

Abuheekmat:




Explain with dalil from rousl or sahabah NOT ALFA why khawarij are Muslims o..

Laughing .

As worst as kufar alaro, sarumi ,ejigbo, amubieya and others .. They even know khawarij are kufar..


You are too far from knowledge o..


Laughing

Dear illiterate.
You haven't brought any proof that kawarij are kufar.
But I have brought you proof why they are not.


You are so dumb

abdulazeez1002:

Dear illiterate.
You haven't brought any proof that kawarij are kufar.
But I have brought you proof why they are not.


You are so dumb

I gave you 3 hadith..

And it's not proof ?

Abuheekmat:



Copy and paste master. ..

Laughing. .


Its scholars that Allah sent to u abi ..

Oponu ..

You see hadith where rosul call khawarij kufar, told sahabahs to kill them, you saw hadith where sahabahs kill them, call them dog of fire, said the worst slain on earth is khawarij and best slain is those who khawarij killed .


And you rejected it all because of oro alfa




Agbako ni e fa

What brought copy and paste. Illiteracy at its peak.


You call Ibn ‘Aabideen (may Allah have mercy on him) and
Shaykh ‘Abd ar-Rahmaan ibn Saalih al-Mahmoud
(may Allah preserve him) Liers.

You are a bastard

Abuheekmat:


I gave you 3 hadith..
And it's not proof ?

Where do you even get the moxie from to type hokum??
You've laid bare your ignorance here many a time.
You are a bastard

abdulazeez1002:



Where do you even get the moxie from to type hokum??

You've laid bare your ignorance here many a time.

You are a bastard

Emi mi omo ale..

Because i give you words of rosul and sahabahs on khawarij..


Kontinue

Abuheekmat:




Explain with dalil from rousl or sahabah NOT ALFA why khawarij are Muslims o..

Laughing .

As worst as kufar alaro, sarumi ,ejigbo, amubieya and others .. They even know khawarij are kufar..


You are too far from knowledge o..


Laughing

An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
The view of ash-Shaafa‘i and the majority of his
fellow scholars is that the Khawaarij are not to be
described as disbelievers; this also applies to the
Qadariyyah and the majority of the Mu‘tazilah and
other groups that follow whims and desires.

End quote from Sharh Muslim, 7/160

abdulazeez1002:



An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
The view of ash-Shaafa‘i and the majority of his
fellow scholars is that the Khawaarij are not to be
described as disbelievers; this also applies to the
Qadariyyah and the majority of the Mu‘tazilah and
other groups that follow whims and desires.

Taqleed lo ma ba igbese aye e je .

You are using salafs mistakes to refute hadith rosul..


Kontinue..

Abuheekmat:


Emi mi omo ale..


Kontinue

Stop speaking your damn language you illiterate

Abuheekmat:




Taqleed lo ma ba igbese aye e je .

You are using salafs mistakes to refute hadith rosul..


Kontinue..

Save me from you? Like what the f**k. You're so dumb. You sit in your thatch mud with your dumb head saying what is correct

abdulazeez1002:


Stop speaking your damn language you illiterate

Laughing. .

You are too far from knowledge.
The little you know , you do it with taqleed..


..
Do you even know why rosul call khawarij kufar?