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Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:17am On Jan 01, 2019
LegitHustler:


Take a look at the Photo i attached to a comment which you called a trash and understand

I told that ur organogram won't work for us....

Is a trash....am not a lunatics to believe that.

My town has its history but not that u diagram..we ain't part of it.
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:18am On Jan 01, 2019
WHY EDO PEOPLE ARE UNIQUE IN NIGERIA

THE SOLILOQUIES OF THE ELDERSTATESMAN
By Elder Ojealaro Friday

Yesterday,one of my Igbo friends liked our page- CONSCIOUS MOVEMENT FOR EDO UNITED KINGDOM’S REBIRTH. I decided to thank him when he informed me that he liked the page. But do you know what he asked me thereafter? He said, ” WHY DO YOU EDOS THINK YOU ARE UNIQUE IN NIGERIA?” My answer to him formed the substance of this soliloquy. I also got the caption of the treatise from his query.
ELDERSTATESMAN ANSWERED;

(1) WHEN THE COLONIALIST GUILEFULLY INVADED NIGERIA;

**History recorded that it was only Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi of
Benin,Nana of Itsekiri and Jaja of Opobo( All of Edo ancestry) that
resisted colonialism. Note that,Oba Ovonramwen was in prison
when Nigeria was almagamated in 1914 by Lugard. He was not a
party to the forced document of merger. He died shortly after in
Calabar.
**The Hausas,Fulanis,Yorubas,Igbos and other ethnic groups in Nigeria
were annexed to the British empire without so much as raising their
now vociferous orifices. They were captured by the white man like
you would a snail or a pathologically shy armadillo( Ekhun). As my
People would say in pidgin,” Dem pick dem from ground”

EDOunique
(2) WHICH OF THE OLD KINGDOMS WAS STILL STANDING WHEN THE BRITISH ENTERED THE NIGER AREA( PRESENT DAY NIGERIA)?

** None in Igboland as they never had any.
** None in Yoruba Land as Nupe has laid waste to the often overhyped
Oyo Kingdom
** None in Hausaland as Fulanis from Futa-Jalon and Niger led by
the trickster-Usman Dan Fodio had already sacked all the Habe
city-states
BUT,
** The Greatest of all Indigenous Nigeria Kingdoms- the Benin Empire
was still flourishing and resplendent in her majestic aura and glory. It
is a kingdom that is not new to the whiteman’s ways. In fact,the
Benin Empire had a diplomatic mission and embassy in Portugal(
another European power). The secondary language of the Benin
people then was Portuguese.

(3) WHO SOLD THEIR KINSMEN AS SLAVES TO EUROPEANS?

** The Igbos did via Arochuku slave dealers.
** The Yorubas did. It was why the Yoruba civil war lasted decades.
Bishop Ajayi Crowder and the Kutis family were victims. Note that
Wole Soyinka is a Kuti via Eniola Kuti his mother. Herbert Macaulay
is a grandchild of Ajayi Crowder the slave who became a Bishop.
80% Caribbean countries are made up of Yoruba whose kinsmen
sold into slavery.
** The Hausa-Fulani did. It has been their way of life since the Trans-
Sahara slave trade.The almajiris system till date gives an insight into
their penchant for inhumanity to their kinsmen.
BUT,
The Edo people never DID. In the old empire,the worst that can happen to a criminal is punishment commensurate to his crime. He can be made a domestic servants instead of a slave to foreigners.

(4) WHO FIRST MADE MADE CONTACT WITH THE WHITEMAN

** Not the Yorubas
** Not the Ibos
** Definitely not the Hausa-Fulanis
BUT,
Clearly the Edos. It was During the reign of the Philosopher-King Esigie that Roy De Squierra the Portuguese visited benin in the 15th century and facilitated the establishment of Diplomatic relationship between Portugal and the Great Kingdom of Benin. Edo people can speak Portuguese fluently after that. After the advent of the British colonialism and the almagamation of 1914,Edo people who could speak Portugal very well started learning a new ” Oyinbo” language-English. Those who are not so Educated decided to mix Portuguese with the new English language and thus,the Edo people gave Nigeria their unofficial but most effective lingua-Franca,the “pidgin” English. The pidgin is not incorrect grammar as some people have come to believe. It is an admixture of Edo,Portuguese and English languages distill from the lingua laboratory of the Edo people. e.g the pidgin sentence, ” DASH ME” is made up of Portuguese word “dash” meaning,”give it to me free of charge” and the English pronoun “me”.
So you see. Na Edo people give Nigeria pidgin.

(5) NIGERIA DARES NOT IGNORE US:

Of course,they can’t. When they tried it during the first republic,the country boiled and it was not with their clear eyes they hurriedly carved out Midwest( Bendel) for us.
** Awolowo had to ally with Enahoro an Edo man to succeed.
** Babagida had to ally with Aikhomo an Edo man to succeed
** Abacha refused to acknowledge Edo properly and ended badly
** Abdulsalami learnt his lesson and allied with Akhigbe an Edo
man to succeed.
** The defunct SDP the party who won a presidential Election did
it through Anenih an Edo man as their Chairman.
** The then opposition party NRC,which had most governors in the country
performed the feat via Tom Ikimi an Edo man as the Chairman.
** Anenih the same Edo man was the brain behind the 16 year elect-
oral success of the PDP
** APC now have a President because an Edo man Oyegun is their
Chairman.
**Most importantly, Nigeria got their Independence through the motion
moved by Enahoro an Edo man who precipitated other events that
Evicted the WHITEMAN.

(6) MOST ROYAL DIGNITY.

** How do the Yorubas feel when they see their foremost paramount
Ruler,the Alafin of Oyo posing for photographs with his Solomonic
harem of young wives in front of the Buckingham Palace in
London? He is even at war with his skin. He is bleaching it red.
** How do the Hausa-Fulani feel,when their foremost Ruler,the Sultan
goes to Abuja most times to curry favours. One of the sultan died
in a plane crash during one of those trips.
** Do you know that a former chairman of Igbo traditional council
died in a hotel in Abuja when he went there to see late Abacha?
BUT,

The Oba of Benin;

* Cannever leave his domain frivolously to another.
*Can never go and receive a President or any other VIP at the Airport.
They have to come to his palace to pay homage or submit a petition
* Cannot be deposed by a president or governor.
I wanted to go on and on but my Igbo friend suddenly shouted:
” Prince, e don do. I gree. You people are very unique indeed! “
I am proud to be an Edo man! Aren’t you?
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:19am On Jan 01, 2019
Donmedra:
you speak with us with English I'm sure you've English name and you celebrate English Christmas and worshiped English God!

Are you English or Igbo?

Just don't mind him...

The fact is that anioma is edo...
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by EasternActivist: 11:19am On Jan 01, 2019
Osagyefo98:


I don't twist history but I keep it the way it should.

You do same and stop shifting them across the niger .


lol... another accusation...

tell me when i did so at the bolded.

besides am only telling you to go to any anioma person and tell him he is bini or has his origin from bini...

come back and share your experience if you are alive.

lol. nigga is scared nobody is identifying with bini the deserted and cursed empire grin
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:20am On Jan 01, 2019
EasternActivist:

yes i speak Engish, yet then,
i also speak Igbo my origin cheesy
that's because English people didn't spend much of their time in Nigeria.

Imagine hundreds of years anioma people had been interacting with igbos, they copied each other culture, language,etc

That doesn't mean they are igbi
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by LegitHustler: 11:21am On Jan 01, 2019
Osagyefo98:


I told that ur organogram won't work for us....

Is a trash....am not a lunatics to believe that.

My town has its history but not that u diagram..we ain't part of it.

Lol, just to show you how we share ancestry hence the diagram.
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:22am On Jan 01, 2019
EasternActivist:



lol... another accusation...

tell me when i did so at the bolded.

besides am only telling you to go to any anioma person and tell him he is bini or has his origin from bini...

come back and share your experience if you are alive.

lol. nigga is scared nobody is identifying with bini the deserted and cursed empire grin



Sire, I have convincingly done that many times...and nothing happened.

If u cool down and explain someone's history to them...it will never result to confl.
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by EasternActivist: 11:22am On Jan 01, 2019
Osagyefo98:


Just don't mind him...

The fact is that anioma is edo...

why are you rewriting their history.

has any anioma person approached you to say so?

are you now their spokesperson?

Go to their facebook page and see their history and who dey are, come back here and tell us what you observe.

and if you see anybody mention the word bini, i will give up
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:23am On Jan 01, 2019
I just love how this thread is devoid of insults and tribal bashing.

Let's keep it civil.

The topic will be updated tomorrow and it will grace the front page
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by EasternActivist: 11:24am On Jan 01, 2019
Osagyefo98:



Sire, I have convincingly done that many times...and nothing happened.

If u cool down and explain someone's history to them ...it will never result to confl.

you're a joker

attache by force... cheesy

bini is lost and should be forgotten bro

anioma is anioma nothing like bini ancestry or origin.

kiss the truth
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:25am On Jan 01, 2019
LegitHustler:


Lol, just to show you how we share ancestry hence the diagram.

OK fine u can share with them but in the history of my own people is not so....

Our history is straight and forward....we don't attach unnecessary ancestry to score cheap points.


Maybe it works for ur people but it doesn't work for us.
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:26am On Jan 01, 2019
EasternActivist:


you're a joker

attache by force... cheesy

bini is lost and should be forgotten bro

anioma is anioma nothing like bini ancestry or origin.

kiss the truth
how is Bini lost?

Anioma is just part of a larger nation
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by EasternActivist: 11:26am On Jan 01, 2019
Donmedra:
that's because English people didn't spend much of their time in Nigeria.

Imagine hundreds of years anioma people had been interacting with igbos, they copied each other culture, language,etc

That doesn't mean they are igbi

so if you claim they are bini...

why are they not speaking bini but ika language which is full fetched igboid.

answer me
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:27am On Jan 01, 2019
Osagyefo98:


OK fine u can share with them but in the history of my own people is not so....

Our history is straight and forward....we don't attach unnecessary ancestry to score cheap points.


Maybe it works for ur people but it doesn't work for us.
these people from east are jokers.

They can't even claim ikwerre now they are claiming anioma
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:28am On Jan 01, 2019
EasternActivist:


why are you rewriting their history.

has any anioma person approached you to say so?

are you now their spokesperson?

Go to their facebook page and see their history and who dey are, come back here and tell us what you observe.

and if you see anybody mention the word bini, i will give up

Consistently these guys have said they are not igbos...and has traced themselves to benin.

What do we gain pursuing a case that has been laid to rest.
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:28am On Jan 01, 2019
EasternActivist:


so if you claim they are bini...

why are they not speaking bini but ika language which is full fetched igboid.

answer me
there language are mixture of Edo and Igbo not pure Igbo.

Like I said earlier, interaction with Igbo made them share each other culture
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by EasternActivist: 11:28am On Jan 01, 2019
Donmedra:
how is Bini lost?

Anioma is just part of a larger nation

are you normal?

larger nation that can't fit into a state?
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by cheruv: 11:29am On Jan 01, 2019
ImperialYoruba:
You can try your bullshyte with East, you turn to West we will demolish you, from Benin all way to Agbor and reveal your true history to Ibo.
Your speech reminds me of the partition of Poland btwn 1772-1795.. should the Igbo sit with the Yoruba and partition Edo realm
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:29am On Jan 01, 2019
EasternActivist:


you're a joker

attache by force... cheesy

bini is lost and should be forgotten bro

anioma is anioma nothing like bini ancestry or origin.

kiss the truth

Anyway an not edo whether na bini.
So if u insult them, let them take their insult is non of my business...

Am only standing on the truth...without twisting it.
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by LegitHustler: 11:30am On Jan 01, 2019
[s]
Donmedra:

WHY EDO PEOPLE ARE UNIQUE IN NIGERIA

THE SOLILOQUIES OF THE ELDERSTATESMAN
By Elder Ojealaro Friday

Yesterday,one of my Igbo friends liked our page- CONSCIOUS MOVEMENT FOR EDO UNITED KINGDOM’S REBIRTH. I decided to thank him when he informed me that he liked the page. But do you know what he asked me thereafter? He said, ” WHY DO YOU EDOS THINK YOU ARE UNIQUE IN NIGERIA?” My answer to him formed the substance of this soliloquy. I also got the caption of the treatise from his query.
ELDERSTATESMAN ANSWERED;

(1) WHEN THE COLONIALIST GUILEFULLY INVADED NIGERIA;

**History recorded that it was only Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi of
Benin,Nana of Itsekiri and Jaja of Opobo( All of Edo ancestry) that
resisted colonialism. Note that,Oba Ovonramwen was in prison
when Nigeria was almagamated in 1914 by Lugard. He was not a
party to the forced document of merger. He died shortly after in
Calabar.
**The Hausas,Fulanis,Yorubas,Igbos and other ethnic groups in Nigeria
were annexed to the British empire without so much as raising their
now vociferous orifices. They were captured by the white man like
you would a snail or a pathologically shy armadillo( Ekhun). As my
People would say in pidgin,” Dem pick dem from ground”

EDOunique
(2) WHICH OF THE OLD KINGDOMS WAS STILL STANDING WHEN THE BRITISH ENTERED THE NIGER AREA( PRESENT DAY NIGERIA)?

** None in Igboland as they never had any.
** None in Yoruba Land as Nupe has laid waste to the often overhyped
Oyo Kingdom
** None in Hausaland as Fulanis from Futa-Jalon and Niger led by
the trickster-Usman Dan Fodio had already sacked all the Habe
city-states
BUT,
** The Greatest of all Indigenous Nigeria Kingdoms- the Benin Empire
was still flourishing and resplendent in her majestic aura and glory. It
is a kingdom that is not new to the whiteman’s ways. In fact,the
Benin Empire had a diplomatic mission and embassy in Portugal(
another European power). The secondary language of the Benin
people then was Portuguese.

(3) WHO SOLD THEIR KINSMEN AS SLAVES TO EUROPEANS?

** The Igbos did via Arochuku slave dealers.
** The Yorubas did. It was why the Yoruba civil war lasted decades.
Bishop Ajayi Crowder and the Kutis family were victims. Note that
Wole Soyinka is a Kuti via Eniola Kuti his mother. Herbert Macaulay
is a grandchild of Ajayi Crowder the slave who became a Bishop.
80% Caribbean countries are made up of Yoruba whose kinsmen
sold into slavery.
** The Hausa-Fulani did. It has been their way of life since the Trans-
Sahara slave trade.The almajiris system till date gives an insight into
their penchant for inhumanity to their kinsmen.
BUT,
The Edo people never DID. In the old empire,the worst that can happen to a criminal is punishment commensurate to his crime. He can be made a domestic servants instead of a slave to foreigners.

(4) WHO FIRST MADE MADE CONTACT WITH THE WHITEMAN

** Not the Yorubas
** Not the Ibos
** Definitely not the Hausa-Fulanis
BUT,
Clearly the Edos. It was During the reign of the Philosopher-King Esigie that Roy De Squierra the Portuguese visited benin in the 15th century and facilitated the establishment of Diplomatic relationship between Portugal and the Great Kingdom of Benin. Edo people can speak Portuguese fluently after that. After the advent of the British colonialism and the almagamation of 1914,Edo people who could speak Portugal very well started learning a new ” Oyinbo” language-English. Those who are not so Educated decided to mix Portuguese with the new English language and thus,the Edo people gave Nigeria their unofficial but most effective lingua-Franca,the “pidgin” English. The pidgin is not incorrect grammar as some people have come to believe. It is an admixture of Edo,Portuguese and English languages distill from the lingua laboratory of the Edo people. e.g the pidgin sentence, ” DASH ME” is made up of Portuguese word “dash” meaning,”give it to me free of charge” and the English pronoun “me”.
So you see. Na Edo people give Nigeria pidgin.

(5) NIGERIA DARES NOT IGNORE US:

Of course,they can’t. When they tried it during the first republic,the country boiled and it was not with their clear eyes they hurriedly carved out Midwest( Bendel) for us.
** Awolowo had to ally with Enahoro an Edo man to succeed.
** Babagida had to ally with Aikhomo an Edo man to succeed
** Abacha refused to acknowledge Edo properly and ended badly
** Abdulsalami learnt his lesson and allied with Akhigbe an Edo
man to succeed.
** The defunct SDP the party who won a presidential Election did
it through Anenih an Edo man as their Chairman.
** The then opposition party NRC,which had most governors in the country
performed the feat via Tom Ikimi an Edo man as the Chairman.
** Anenih the same Edo man was the brain behind the 16 year elect-
oral success of the PDP
** APC now have a President because an Edo man Oyegun is their
Chairman.
**Most importantly, Nigeria got their Independence through the motion
moved by Enahoro an Edo man who precipitated other events that
Evicted the WHITEMAN.

(6) MOST ROYAL DIGNITY.

** How do the Yorubas feel when they see their foremost paramount
Ruler,the Alafin of Oyo posing for photographs with his Solomonic
harem of young wives in front of the Buckingham Palace in
London? He is even at war with his skin. He is bleaching it red.
** How do the Hausa-Fulani feel,when their foremost Ruler,the Sultan
goes to Abuja most times to curry favours. One of the sultan died
in a plane crash during one of those trips.
** Do you know that a former chairman of Igbo traditional council
died in a hotel in Abuja when he went there to see late Abacha?
BUT,

The Oba of Benin;

* Cannever leave his domain frivolously to another.
*Can never go and receive a President or any other VIP at the Airport.
They have to come to his palace to pay homage or submit a petition
* Cannot be deposed by a president or governor.
I wanted to go on and on but my Igbo friend suddenly shouted:
” Prince, e don do. I gree. You people are very unique indeed! “
I am proud to be an Edo man! Aren’t you?


[/s]

Enough lie on this post. Ever heard about Nri Kingdom Why say igbos never had one
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by EasternActivist: 11:31am On Jan 01, 2019
Donmedra:
there language are mixture of Edo and Igbo not pure Igbo.

Like I said earlier, interaction with Igbo made them share each other culture

for you their language is mixture just like ashawo can be found in igbo language as a borrowed word from edo.

now tell me any anioma dialectal word that is pure edo but has no meaning in Igbo?

answer me and i will forever remain quiet
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:31am On Jan 01, 2019
EasternActivist:


are you normal?

larger nation that can't fit into a state?

chai what's wrong with you people?

Bini
Urhobo
Anioma
Isoko
Esan
Afemai
Etc have the same ancestry, that make them a race.

I don't want to mention ikwerre seff
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:32am On Jan 01, 2019
LegitHustler:
[s][/s]

Enough lie on this post. Ever heard about Nri Kingdom Why say igbos never had one
okay what's anioma part in this nri kingdom?
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by LegitHustler: 11:33am On Jan 01, 2019
Donmedra:
there language are mixture of Edo and Igbo not pure Igbo.

Like I said earlier, interaction with Igbo made them share each other culture

Which one is pure Igbo again I'm form Ezike oba and when i speak igbo language person from Anambra will find it hard to understand. Igbo bu Igbo no matter how complex it is. Anioma igbo may even be understood than Abakaliki igbo
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:33am On Jan 01, 2019
Donmedra:
these people from east are jokers.

They can't even claim ikwerre now they are claiming anioma

Let me gently ignore this....
I told earlier that from asaba to agbor is edo...

If u cross Niger to claim migration I will have problem with u...

Anybody saying anioma is not edo should build a sky scrapper or flyover that will connect them from their state to anioma.....

As far as we are concerned anioma is edo.

Pls be guided m
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by EasternActivist: 11:33am On Jan 01, 2019
LegitHustler:
[s][/s]

Enough lie on this post. Ever heard about Nri Kingdom Why say igbos never had one

not just that, Arochukwu dynasty.

they just put up to the limit of their knowledge.

they don't know that Igbos are among successful ethnic group that has strong history.

not with the ones filled with fables of fallen angels grin

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Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:35am On Jan 01, 2019
EasternActivist:


for you their language is mixture just like ashawo can be found in igbo language as a borrowed word from edo.

now tell me any anioma dialectal word that is pure edo but has no meaning in Igbo?

answer me and i will forever remain quiet
ashawo,olosho are Yoruba words

What's the meaning of idemudia, obayangbon in Igbo language?
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by LegitHustler: 11:35am On Jan 01, 2019
Donmedra:
okay what's anioma part in this nri kingdom?

Hope you won't call this trash like Osagefo

Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:37am On Jan 01, 2019
LegitHustler:


Hope you won't call this trash like Osagefo
jokers, oya,relocate back to Egypt Na because that land and it's environ are Edo
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by LegitHustler: 11:38am On Jan 01, 2019
Osagyefo98:


Let me gently ignore this....
I told earlier that from asaba to agbor is edo...

If u cross Niger to claim migration I will have problem with u...

Anybody saying anioma is not edo should build a sky scrapper or flyover that will connect them from their state to anioma.....

As far as we are concerned anioma is edo.

Pls be guided m

So river niger was the boundary lol. Just like saying the other part of 3rd mainland bridge is not part of Lagos shocked
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by Nobody: 11:38am On Jan 01, 2019
LegitHustler:


Which one is pure Igbo again I'm form Ezike oba and when i speak igbo language person from Anambra will find it hard to understand. Igbo bu Igbo no matter how complex it is. Anioma igbo may even be understood than Abakaliki igbo


But when I speak u will understand but I won't


This is cheating oooooooo
Re: Great Benin descendants thread by EasternActivist: 11:38am On Jan 01, 2019
Donmedra:
ashawo,olosho are Yoruba words

What's the meaning of idemudia, obayangbon in Igbo language?

i ask again, are you normal?

i said give me a word of anioma dialect that has edo meaning without an igbo trace and you're giving me this edo names.

Idemudia is an Edo name often given to a Baby Boy which means thanks

Obayangbon is common with the Benin tribe in Nigeria which translates to "Oba has been given the right to govern the universe." in English.

am still waiting for a correct reply

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