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Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Kriptune: 1:06pm On Jan 19, 2019
The Catholic Church

uuzba:
I know of only one church which does not care about who is rich or poor.
Everybody sits on thesame bench. Everybody is given thesame spritual instructions. They don't beg you for Tithe. You can attend in slippers or Gucci shoes. The door is always open. The ushers will never drag you to any seat. If you like sit at the front, if you like sit at the back.
The pastor is not worhipped. He only wears one cloth. He doesn't have house in any village and no personal property. You attend the Church to worship God. If you like pay attention, if you like be browsing your phone. The pastor will only let you know, that exactly what you reap on earth here is what you will sow. If you have spiritual problems, go and see him. He is only a vessle of God. He does not collect money for anything and at any time, the Bishop can remove him from that church and send to another church without any notice. Church is not his property. It is God's property.
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Adeesther56(f): 1:16pm On Jan 19, 2019
Celebrities are trying
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by incogni2o: 1:26pm On Jan 19, 2019
kingemzy5:
Go to deeper life they will treat you as mere gate man.. I swear

Lol, Dont mind him.

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Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by incogni2o: 1:27pm On Jan 19, 2019
kingemzy5:
Go to deeper life they will treat you as mere gate man.. I swear

Lol, Dont mind Him jawe

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Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jan 19, 2019
miketayo:


U r contradicting yourself, u said extra years.. from the day u were born God knows when u r going to die whether u pray or not.. praying doesn't mean u LL live a 100 years neither does it mean u LL live 10 years..
I agree God answers prayer at d right time though.
you ain't understanding my point bro. undecided
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 1:56pm On Jan 19, 2019
nho4:


That is like a needle in a haystack...there are exceptions to unique and specific situations throughout life. You can't use that to misjudge and generalise other aspects.
You too can't use your own point to generalize. God bless......
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 1:57pm On Jan 19, 2019
Adeesther56:
Celebrities should not even go to church because they are torn in the human flesh...I remembered the last olamide baddo adedeji came to my church mfm prayer city camp..he re-enforced or directed the rape incident that happened to me ...he was instructing a guy that came to my church camp to Bleep me through coercion in public I.e inside our church camp I.e inside our church auditorium he didn't even respect God that the auditorium is meant for prayer not sex...olamide baddo adedeji is just a disgrace to humanhood...who even knows if he is a cult member because they way he coerced this boy that raped Me it seems him and the boy or him is inside a cult group..I was charmed I couldn't talk or do anything I was just looking like a log of wood throughout this rape incident.. I still feel sad about it anytime I rembered this rape incident.... Thanks for reading...

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Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 2:08pm On Jan 19, 2019
Ozkar:
you only hate him cos he spoke against transactional sex. He said he thinks it demeans the person selling their body (usually women). He doesn't hate the people but the action.

Why does that irritate you?

Are you into transactional sex?

Are you a pedophile ?

Its funny how you avoided that in my write up.

How can you say you hate transactional sex when you attack the sellers and leave the buyers out?

If there are no buyers, there won't be sellers.

If you had digested the whole contents of my comment, you would have realised I was pointing to falz hypocrisy. He needs church more than the pastor that called him out.
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Ozkar: 2:46pm On Jan 19, 2019
koyyes:


Are you a pedophile ?

Its funny how you avoided that in my write up.

How can you say you hate transactional sex when you attack the sellers and leave the buyers out?

If there are no buyers, there won't be sellers.

If you had digested the whole contents of my comment, you would have realised I was pointing to falz hypocrisy. He needs church more than the pastor that called him out.
weak rebuttal. The lady he snapped with is an adult. The pedophilia claim is stupid.

There are buyers because there is a buyable commodity. There has to be an existing product/service before there is any demand for it, and then supply. Stop making your body available for sale/hire. It demeans you.

...and yes, there can be people trying to sell without seeing a buyer first. That's why there is something called MARKETING. That's why many sex sellers wear skimpy clothing and stay where people can see them or post raunchy pics on whatever social platform they are marketing on.

Also he never said he hates the sellers. He hates the transaction, he hates that the human body is reduced to a commodity that is bought and sold.

How does 'I detest transactional sex' translate to 'I hate people who sell sex'?

Sometimes you people argue like you are mentally challenged.

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Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Noblefreeman(m): 2:48pm On Jan 19, 2019
omooba969:

Jehovah witness right? grin
yes
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 3:01pm On Jan 19, 2019
Ozkar:
the lady he snapped with is an adult. The pedophilia claim is stupid.

There are buyers because there is a buyable commodity. There has to be an existing product/service before there is any demand for it, and then supply. Stop making your body available for sale/hire. It demeans you.

Also he never said he hates the sellers. He hates the transaction, he hates that the human body is reduced to a commodity that is bought and sold.

How does 'I detest transactional sex' translate to 'I hate people who sell sex'?

Sometimes you people argue like you are mentally challenged.

You typed this shiit and you felt you sounded smart.
His explanation of his dislike for transactional sex was because of a part of his lyrics that was criticized where he dissed the females who follow alhaji s . Why did he not criticize the Alhaji himself ?

You see people like you will talk trash about something but go ahead and promote it. Who do you think you are fooling?

As regards the pedophilia issh, of course he will use an adult for a pose. But the context of it is disgusting. If you had a brain that processes well, you would have known that.

Then again, you could just be a closet pedophile trying to sugar coat it.

Use your brain for once. Its not that hard.
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 3:09pm On Jan 19, 2019
Ozkar:
weak rebuttal. The lady he snapped with is an adult. The pedophilia claim is stupid.

There are buyers because there is a buyable commodity. There has to be an existing product/service before there is any demand for it, and then supply. Stop making your body available for sale/hire. It demeans you.

...and yes, there can be people trying to sell without seeing a buyer first. That's why there is something called MARKETING. That's why many sex sellers wear skimpy clothing and stay where people can see them or post raunchy pics on whatever social platform they are marketing on.

Also he never said he hates the sellers. He hates the transaction, he hates that the human body is reduced to a commodity that is bought and sold.

How does 'I detest transactional sex' translate to 'I hate people who sell sex'?

Sometimes you people argue like you are mentally challenged.

You edit contents shows that you and falz talk from both sides of your mouth. The question now is whether the both of you are mentally challenged or have bipolar disorder.

Go and watch his music videos and see if all his vixens are well clothed. The same skimpy wears you see on the streets are what you will see.

And when they ask you and falz why you watch and promote such respectively, you will open your mouth and say 'sex sells'.

It is not the same falz that is using these girls, so that people like you can buy his music?

My friend go and sit down.
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Achorise: 3:21pm On Jan 19, 2019
Lies,will they recorganize you every Sunday?
No!!
They just gave honor to whom it is due.
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Ozkar: 3:25pm On Jan 19, 2019
koyyes:


You typed this shiit and you felt you sounded smart.
His explanation of his dislike for transactional sex was because of a part of his lyrics that was criticized where he dissed the females who follow alhaji s . Why did he not criticize the Alhaji himself ?

You see people like you will talk trash about something but go ahead and promote it. Who do you think you are fooling?

As regards the pedophilia issh, of course he will use an adult for a pose. But the context of it is disgusting. If you had a brain that processes well, you would have known that.

Then again, you could just be a closet pedophile trying to sugar coat it.

Use your brain for once. Its not that hard.

did you watch the Talk video? Be honest.

He attacks people who wouldn't pay workers' salary. The man in the video (likely a politician) would rather give money to sycophants (the guys hailing him) and chase ladies (the lady corper who walks past swinging her hips). That's right before shifting focus on ladies who would rather sell sex than look for more dignified work.

For someone who likes to factor in contexts, I wonder how you missed that. You'd rather ignore everything and hold on to transactional sex because the shoe pinches.

Falz has never come out to say he is a saint or the law. He only thinks there are things that should change. They are his opinion and he is entitled to express them in his music.

I can bet you haven't listened to his album. In it he criticizes child abuse and child marriage, and even government-inspired hardship that make people resort to selling their bodies.

He also included spoken word at the end where he admits that we all have a part to play and that he isn't perfect (he also has a speck in his eyes).

Be realistic, no one respects anyone they can pay and f**k anyhow they like.
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Ozkar: 3:30pm On Jan 19, 2019
koyyes:


You edit contents shows that you and falz talk from both sides of your mouth. The question now is whether the both of you are mentally challenged or have bipolar disorder.

Go and watch his music videos and see if all his vixens are well clothed. The same skimpy wears you see on the streets are what you will see.

And when they ask you and falz why you watch and promote such respectively, you will open your mouth and say 'sex sells'.

It is not the same falz that is using these girls, so that people like you can buy his music?

My friend go and sit down.
lol. I'd ignore the nonsense about talking from both sides of the mouth because a post is edited to add more points.

What's your point exactly? That Falz should stop talking about societal issues?

What exactly is making your soul bittter? Talk to me.
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 3:43pm On Jan 19, 2019
Ozkar:
did you watch the Talk video? Be honest.

He attacks people who wouldn't pay workers' salary. The man in the video (likely a politician) would rather give money to sycophants (the guys hailing him) and chase ladies (the lady corper who walks past swinging her hips). That's right before shifting focus on ladies who would rather sell sex than look for more dignified work.

For someone who likes to factor in contexts, I wonder how you missed that. You'd rather ignore everything and hold on to transactional sex because the shoe pinches.

Falz has never come out to say he is a saint or the law. He only thinks there are things that should change. They are his opinion and he is entitled to express them in his music.

I can bet you haven't listened to his album. In it he criticizes child abuse and child marriage, and even government-inspired hardship that make people resort to selling their bodies.

He also included spoken word at the end where he admits that we all have a part to play and that he isn't perfect (he also has a speck in his eyes).

Be realistic, no one respects anyone they can pay and f**k anyhow they like.

Again, you miss the point and this is the problem with Nigerians. People like you will nag about a problem that you are probably part of but chose to play dumb about it.

Now, I ask again as regard to transactional sex that falz mentioned he hates with his own mouth. Why did he not criticize the males who promote it?

Because he knows he is among them. That is why pervs like you will buy his joke of a music and self-service over it.

You will use your own data and download porn and self-service over it.

Then you come hear and play saint about transactional sex and you think it doesn't demean you too.

Falz can talk about all the shiit that happens in the society, but he is part of the problem so excuse me will all that bull Shiit.
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 3:49pm On Jan 19, 2019
Ozkar:
lol. I'd ignore the nonsense about talking from both sides of the mouth because a post is edited to add more points.

What's your point exactly? That Falz should stop talking about societal issues?

What exactly is making your soul bittter? Talk to me.

You and falz should head to church.

Falz obviously could not practice law so this is his back up. If given the opportunity, he'll sell the whole of Nigeria.

He should shut up.
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by castro316: 3:54pm On Jan 19, 2019
FruitCakes:
God is not a babalawo you know? Get to know him and your life will be smooth

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Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by FruitCakes(f): 4:13pm On Jan 19, 2019
castro316:

God is not a babalawo you know? Get to know him and your life will be smooth
On the contrary i've known him, and I know him
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Ozkar: 4:14pm On Jan 19, 2019
koyyes:


Again, you miss the point and this is the problem with Nigerians. People like you will nag about a problem that you are probably part of but chose to play dumb about it.

Now, I ask again as regard to transactional sex that falz mentioned he hates with his own mouth. Why did he not criticize the males who promote it?

Because he knows he is among them. That is why pervs like you will buy his joke of a music and self-service over it.

You will use your own data and download porn and self-service over it.

Then you come hear and play saint about transactional sex and you think it doesn't demean you too.

Falz can talk about all the shiit that happens in the society, but he is part of the problem so excuse me will all that bull Shiit.


let's say you are a wild-life enthusiast, and you hate that animals are being poached into extinction for body parts.

Now there are clearly two sets of persons responsible -
1) Poachers who kill these animals and sell body parts
2) Buyers who pay for these parts and encourage poaching.

If you were tasked with stopping poaching which of these would you rather focus on doing?

a) prevent people from killing these animals for sale.
b) prevent people from buying the body parts.
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Ozkar: 4:19pm On Jan 19, 2019
koyyes:


You and falz should head to church.

Falz obviously could not practice law so this is his back up. If given the opportunity, he'll sell the whole of Nigeria.

He should shut up.
ok
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by generationz(f): 4:27pm On Jan 19, 2019
snowxandria:
grin thank you falz cheesy all these useless scammers named pastors don't deserve your money shocked they will all rut in hell soon angry dead pastors walking

We have 3 verified Nigerian ads for sale
bitterness isn't good for business
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Adeesther56(f): 4:44pm On Jan 19, 2019
Nvm
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 4:47pm On Jan 19, 2019
Ozkar:
let's say you are a wild-life enthusiast, and you hate that animals are being poached into extinction for body parts.

Now there are clearly two sets of persons responsible -
1) Poacher who kill these animals and sell body parts
2) Buyers who pay for these parts and encourage poaching.

If you were tasked with stopping poaching which of these would you rather focus on doing?

a) prevent people from killing these animals and for sale.
b) prevent people from buying the body parts.

Some models who were approached to be the face of a campaign against animal cruelty were later found wearing fur ( real not fake).

There is very little a wild life enthusiast can do. Especially if the individual is not a vegetarian and wears fur.

But let's assume he/she doesn't. He/she still can not do it alone. Neither can the focus be on one side.
Even if you shame or threaten, if the buyer is ready to pay more secretly, poaching will still continue.

Again, a wild life enthusiast cannot stop poaching alone. The legal system has to be involved. But if the legal system has been compromised because a lot of individuals in it are buyers or do it as a lucrative business, don't you feel making a song about it and insulting just the poachers is stupid? How will that stop poaching?
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by itsmeurLady(f): 5:01pm On Jan 19, 2019
Come to Christ embassy lekki the pastor no go even send you, you will be refreshed spiritually...celebs worship there and they are treated like everyone else ET patoranking, mercy Johnson, Churchill and some others
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Ozkar: 6:10pm On Jan 19, 2019
koyyes:


Some models who were approached to be the face of a campaign against animal cruelty were later found wearing fur ( real not fake).

There is very little a wild life enthusiast can do. Especially if the individual is not a vegetarian and wears fur.

But let's assume he/she doesn't. He/she still can not do it alone. Neither can the focus be on one side.
Even if you shame or threaten, if the buyer is ready to pay more secretly, poaching will still continue.

Again, a wild life enthusiast cannot stop poaching alone. The legal system has to be involved. But if the legal system has been compromised because a lot of individuals in it are buyers or do it as a lucrative business, don't you feel making a song about it and insulting just the poachers is stupid? How will that stop poaching?
kenya recently tried to pass into law, the death penalty for poachers. Not sure if they have yet.

By your logic, they shouldn't criminalize poaching if they eat meat (hypocrisy). Also they shouldn't penalize poachers/traffickers any less than rich customers who buy the end products. So they should just chill and let it happen.

Also, selling counterfeit goods is criminal in many countries (like the US), but not buying it. Have any idea why that is, when buyers encourage it?

By your logic, if they aren't punishing those buying, they shouldn't criminalize the sale of counterfeit goods.

There's no supply chain in which buyers are held as accountable as sellers. None, whatsoever.

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Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by bluefilm: 6:22pm On Jan 19, 2019
I don't like going to church because I find almost everything done in the catholic mass on Sundays as extremely boring, most especially because of the monotony.
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 6:36pm On Jan 19, 2019
Ozkar:
kenya recently tried to pass into law, the death penalty for poachers. Not sure if they have yet.

By your logic, they shouldn't criminalize poaching if they eat meat (hypocrisy). Also they shouldn't penalize poachers/traffickers any less than rich customers who buy the end products. So they should just chill and let it happen.

Also, selling counterfeit goods is criminal in many countries (like the US), but not buying it. Have any idea why that is, when buyers encourage it?

By your logic, if they aren't punishing those buying, they shouldn't criminalize the sale of counterfeit goods.

There's no supply chain in which buyers are held as accountable as sellers. None, whatsoever.

You are missing the point.

The curb should be executed from both ends.

For example, in a sane society where bribery is illegal, both the giver and the receiver are offenders.

The same should be applied here.

You don't just arrest prostitutes on the streets and think you are going to eradicate it.
How about the pimps?
How about those who find more 'sophisticated' ways of organizing their rings under the umbrella of business men and politicians?
How about these very business men and politicians?

I don't think you've thought deeply about this.

Nigerians=politicians= prostitution

You can not tackle one without dealing with the rest.

This is not a sane society.
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Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Ozkar: 7:13pm On Jan 19, 2019
koyyes:


You are missing the point.

The curb should be executed from both ends.

For example, in a sane society where bribery is illegal, both the giver and the receiver are offenders.

The same should be applied here.

You don't just arrest prostitutes on the streets and think you are going to eradicate it.
How about the pimps?
How about those who find more 'sophisticated' ways of organizing their rings under the umbrella of business men and politicians?
How about these very business men and politicians?

I don't think you've thought deeply about this.

Nigerians=politicians= prostitution

You can not tackle one without dealing with the rest.

This is not a sane society.
any reason why should bribery be applied here and not sale of counterfeit goods?

Pimps are part of the supply, and so are the business men and politicians organizing sophisticated rings. Nigerian laws criminalize all those already, including operation of brothels and child prostitution. Reason being that they involve some sort of exploitation (which is dehumanizing).

People buy stuff only because it is something that can be bought. If you start selling humans today as slaves, there would always be people who would buy.

I get where you are coming from. Demand encourages supply, however sellers are held more accountable than buyers are, anywhere.

If there is only one copy of a product, and I'm the seller, if you refuse to buy, others would come to buy and it can still be sold. But if I refuse to sell, it doesn't get sold. We all have just one body, and we ultimately have the final say as to whether our bodies would be commodities to be sold for another's pleasure.

I just mentioned the sale of counterfeit goods and how the US treat sellers different from buyers. I guess that makes them an insane society. No?
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 7:32pm On Jan 19, 2019
dokyOloye:
nwayo nwayo bro
nwanne hapu.madu afugo ife n'uwa
Re: Why I Stopped Going To Church – Falz Explains by Nobody: 7:38pm On Jan 19, 2019
Ozkar:
any reason why should bribery be applied here and not sale of counterfeit goods?

Pimps are part of the supply, and so are the business men and politicians organizing sophisticated rings. Nigerian laws criminalize all those already, including operation of brothels and child prostitution. Reason being that they involve some sort of exploitation (which is dehumanizing).

People buy stuff only because it is something that can be bought. If you start selling humans today as slaves, there would always be people who would buy.

I get where you are coming from. Demand encourages supply, however sellers are held more accountable than buyers are, anywhere.

If there is only one copy of a product, and I'm the seller, if you refuse to buy, others would come to buy and it can still be sold. But if I refuse to sell, it doesn't get sold. We all have just one body, and we ultimately have the final say as to whether our bodies would be commodities to be sold for another's pleasure.

I just mentioned the sale of counterfeit goods and how the US treat sellers different from buyers. I guess that makes them an insane society. No?

Counterfeit goods are not sold with a tag on them saying 'Counterfeit goods'. If they did, nobody will buy. The law against sellers of counterfeit goods are made to protect buyers. So you cannot compare this to sex trade.

Sophisticated prostitution rings do not require brothels. People are smarter. That was why I said you cannot stop prostitution by just arresting prostitutes on the streets or just any prostitute because you will definitely see him/her out and at it again.

May I remind you that people who engage in this trade are protected because they are linked to businessmen and politicians who patronize them and have so called officers of the law at their beck and call.

In a country where the law works, if a businessman or a politician is found guilty of being linked to a prostitution ring or was found engaging in transactional sex, he/she will be arrested and that gives the sex traders no protection. So they have to look for something else to do.

In Nigeria, that does not happen. If it did, we will not be having this argument.

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