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Re: Homosexuality by NPComplete: 7:47pm On Jan 26, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
No dey "whine" yourself. Animals can also do unnatural things.
What do you make of people who claim to have been cured?

I don't know about this cure thing. Anyone can stop a habit at any time. I wouldn't consider it a cure. That's why there isn't a cure for being an alcoholic or a drug addict. You can only be considered sober.

Also it is hard to really know if someone is cured of homosexuality. Does it mean they don't crave such sexual acts again? Or does it mean they just restrain themselves more? If a man can be cured of being gay then a man should also be able to be cured of any sexual desires entirely? So are u saying I can be cured of my predilection for moderately massive and perky female behinds?

Another reason why it is hard to know if someone is really cured of homosexuality is that anyone who makes such claim of being cured probably has an incentive to proclaim it. The person might do so under societal or religious pressure to assuage their guilt or gain more acceptance with a group. So if the guy is still gay, he has a lot of reason to hide it and just play along. This is the same like all those guys that claim to have been healed of one sickness or another in churches but hide themselves later when symptoms of the sickness persists.

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Re: Homosexuality by Atewo400(m): 7:55pm On Jan 26, 2019
raptex:
Lol. Where in the bible is this written?
I laugh oo
can u now see that they are just confusing themselves with their contradicting book called bible
Re: Homosexuality by LordReed(m): 8:16pm On Jan 26, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
No dey "whine" yourself. Animals can also do unnatural things.
What do you make of people who claim to have been cured?

LoL! Na you dey whine yourself. Animals learnt homosexuality from who to make it unnatural?

I have not seen such claims, you have any?

Meanwhile here is something interesting to read https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jun/10/i-was-19-gay-and-ready-to-be-cured-by-conversion-therapy
Re: Homosexuality by obinna58(m): 8:21pm On Jan 26, 2019
Homosexuality should be legalized worldwide, the future is here grin
Your God doesn't exist
Your religious beliefs are bullshit
Your religious rules are bullshit
Heaven doesn't exist so do hell or Satan/devil/demon
Leave people to enjoy their life to the fullest
Tolerate others for the benefit of humanity

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Re: Homosexuality by bloodofthelamb(m): 8:30pm On Jan 26, 2019
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What do y'all think about same sex relationships and homosexuality?

Do you think it should be legalized in Nigeria?( Please give reasons why it should or shouldn't be)
Re: Homosexuality by Nobody: 8:47pm On Jan 26, 2019
obinna58:
Homosexuality should be legalized worldwide, the future is here grin
Your God doesn't exist
Your religious beliefs are bullshit
Your religious rules are bullshit
Heaven doesn't exist so do hell or Satan/devil/demon
Leave people to enjoy their life to the fullest
Tolerate others for the benefit of humanity






2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;



2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

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Re: Homosexuality by Nobody: 8:50pm On Jan 26, 2019
Humanity has no future

2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

1 John 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

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Re: Homosexuality by LordReed(m): 8:55pm On Jan 26, 2019
solite3:


2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;



2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

Rubbish prophecy. All of these things were happening right in Jesus' and Paul's backyard so how is it prophecy when you tell of the things that are already happening?

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Re: Homosexuality by princy80(m): 9:03pm On Jan 26, 2019
Nwaikuku2:
This is what you all should understand about this gay of a thing; God create Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. From the begining Satan has been working tiredlessly to destroy what God created because man has supremacy over him. Gay practice is one of the strategies satan deviced to extint man out of earth. The main reasons his plan poses a success is because man is ignorant of power given to him by God (lk 10:19) therefore satan with the help of demons uses it as an advantage over mankind because he(satan) control the flesh. SATAN DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIAL SIT IN HELL AND WILL NEVER APPRICATE ANYONE WHO SUCCUMB TO HIS PLANS. instead more suffering await u.

Lol... I was expecting someone to bring God into this matter... grin

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Re: Homosexuality by princy80(m): 9:05pm On Jan 26, 2019
solite3:


2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;



2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

What is the meaning of this nonsense you just typed? Homosexuality has been in existence for ages even before Jesus so end time started since then abi??

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Re: Homosexuality by Nobody: 9:06pm On Jan 26, 2019
LordReed:


Rubbish prophecy. All of these things were happening right in Jesus' and Paul's backyard so how is it prophecy when you tell of the things that are already happening?
the last days didn't start today only that things will go worse as the day of christ keeps approaching.


2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

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Re: Homosexuality by princy80(m): 9:09pm On Jan 26, 2019
Nwaikuku2:
From the comment you quoted it will clear to note that it happens in animals when opposite sex is not found inbetween them. Are u telling me that you've the same mentality as animals. Human being are higher animal with the ability to distinguish btw good and evil, female and male etc, tell me if you've seen a cock or he-goat in gay sex. One thing you should know is, nobody is born gay, it's just maybe an early abuse by same sex or probably a situation whereby opposite sex is absent at early stage of growth. Satanic demons uses as an avenue to attack the victim, posing gay as something attractive!

People are fucking born gay! There is nothing satanic about that.

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Re: Homosexuality by princy80(m): 9:10pm On Jan 26, 2019
solite3:
the last days didn't start today only that things will go worse as the day of christ keeps approaching.


2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

Oga last days... When did the last days start?

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Re: Homosexuality by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:12pm On Jan 26, 2019
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MissRaine69
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Hakeem12
Budaatum
PaulAris
johnydon22
Seun
Lordreed
HellVictorinho
What do y'all think about same sex relationships and homosexuality?

Do you think it should be legalized in Nigeria?( Please give reasons why it should or shouldn't be)

Romans 1:28 And since they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them up to a reprobate mind to do those things which are not convenient.

This is the root of it all. A man who has not God in his knowledge will end up doing things which are not ideal. A mind filled with the knowledge of the Father will not develop canal desire for his fellow gender. I am in no way condemning homosexuals. Like Jesus said, "he who is without sin let him be the first to cast a stone of condemnation." It God's grace and goodness that leads us into righteousness.

If you are gay, I just want you to know that God loves you and is not condemning you. He wants you to draw near to him so that you will be transformed from glory to glory. You cannot be near God and have strange desires.

There is a popular and true saying that goes like this, "he who walk with the wise, will be wise and he that walk with the foolish will be foolish." When you stay near to God you will think His thought and talk His talk. His desires will natural become your desire.

A heart and mind far from God is a heart and mind that is reprobate. Thou will keep him in perfect peace whose heart and mind(thoughts) is stayed on thee.

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Re: Homosexuality by adelee777: 9:13pm On Jan 26, 2019
LordReed:


When you can find a group of humans who willingly want to be eaten we can talk about it.

So the animals that are cannibalised upon do it willingly? I thought we were talking about it existing long animals, so it must be allowed among humans?
Re: Homosexuality by johnydon22(m): 9:17pm On Jan 26, 2019
hahn:
I think everyone has a right to love whoever or whatever they want to love and they shouldn't be embarrassed or disgraced for it

Since it's illegal in Nigeria doesn't this according to you mean it's wrong.

I.e: Remember you think moral right or wrong is hinged on legality grin

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Re: Homosexuality by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:24pm On Jan 26, 2019
princy80:


People are fucking born gay! There is nothing satanic about that.

People are born gay, liars, deceitful, etc, because they were born into this world without God.
Re: Homosexuality by LordReed(m): 9:28pm On Jan 26, 2019
adelee777:


So the animals that are cannibalised upon do it willingly? I thought we were talking about it existing long animals, so it must be allowed among humans?

Homosexuality activity is consented so you contrast it with unconsented activity and ask for unconsented activity to be legalised, does that sound reasonable to you? I even made your proposal more reasonable but apparently even you can see how absurd the proposition sounds.

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Re: Homosexuality by princy80(m): 9:29pm On Jan 26, 2019
bloodofthelamb:


People are born gay, liars, deceitful, etc, because they were born into this world without God.


What about your religious leaders who go about lying and deceiving people? You have a very very very very extraordinarily myopic view of life. I have seen irreligious people who are more honest and humane than religious people, so they were born with God abi?
Re: Homosexuality by princy80(m): 9:30pm On Jan 26, 2019
LordReed:


Homosexuality activity is consented so you contrast it with unconsented activity and ask for unconsented activity to be legalised, does that sound reasonable to you? I even made your proposal more reasonable but apparently even you can see how absurd the proposition sounds.

He obviously forgot to think grin

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Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 9:31pm On Jan 26, 2019
adelee777:


Cannibalism occurs in nature, too. Well, let us legalise it so we could start eating one another. Don't you agree?
Cannibalism does not create harmony in the society, one is simply hurting a fellow human, it should not legalized!
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 9:32pm On Jan 26, 2019
NPComplete:


I don't know about this cure thing. Anyone can stop a habit at any time. I wouldn't consider it a cure. That's why there isn't a cure for being an alcoholic or a drug addict. You can only be considered sober.
Is homosexuality a habit? If it's your position then I have no qualms with that. Habits can be unlearned.

Also it is hard to really know if someone is cured of homosexuality. Does it mean they don't crave such sexual acts again? Or does it mean they just restrain themselves more? If a man can be cured of being gay then a man should also be able to be cured of any sexual desires entirely? So are u saying I can be cured of my predilection for moderately massive and perky female behinds?
If we can take their word for it when they say they are attracted to people of their gender, should we not also agree when they say they have been cured? Your desires for those behinds serve a purpose ultimately --the continuation of our kind. What purpose does homosexual attraction serve?

Another reason why it is hard to know if someone is really cured of homosexuality is that anyone who makes such claim of being cured probably has an incentive to proclaim it. The person might do so under societal or religious pressure to assuage their guilt or gain more acceptance with a group. So if the guy is still gay, he has a lot of reason to hide it and just play along. This is the same like all those guys that claim to have been healed of one sickness or another in churches but hide themselves later when symptoms of the sickness persists.
If it is only one person who has been genuinely cured, then it's enough to say that homosexuality is abnormal.
Re: Homosexuality by Ranchhoddas: 9:37pm On Jan 26, 2019
LordReed:


LoL! Na you dey whine yourself. Animals learnt homosexuality from who to make it unnatural?

I have not seen such claims, you have any?

Meanwhile here is something interesting to read https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jun/10/i-was-19-gay-and-ready-to-be-cured-by-conversion-therapy
https://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/sexuality/leaving-homosexuality/de-sexualizing-the-deeper-needs-of-homosexuality

See my comments above.
Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 9:40pm On Jan 26, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
You know people who like to have their sensibilities offended by unnatural behavior?


Stories abound of people who have been cured of homosexuality. What do you make of those? Do you simply ignore them.
Do you have scientific evidence as to the naturalness of homosexual behavior?
We don't even certainly know what cause sexual orientation, you're jumping to this question.

There are also stories of those that have been cured of heterosexual and living happily has homosexual, what do you say about that?
Re: Homosexuality by LordReed(m): 9:40pm On Jan 26, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
Is homosexuality a habit? If it's your position then I have no qualms with that. Habits can be unlearned.

If we can take their word for it when they say they are attracted to people of their gender, should we not also agree when they say they have been cured? Your desires for those behinds serve a purpose ultimately --the continuation of our kind. What purpose does homosexual attraction serve?

If it is only one person who has been genuinely cured, then it's enough to say that homosexuality is abnormal.

Its a predisposition to like a particular thing. Can you honestly say you've never looked at a guy and said yep this guy looks good, I understand why ladies are all over him?

Where is this genuinely cured homosexual, I am still waiting for a good read.
Re: Homosexuality by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:41pm On Jan 26, 2019
princy80:


What about your religious leaders who go about lying and deceiving people? You have a very very very very extraordinarily myopic view of life. I have seen irreligious people who are more honest and humane than religious people, so they were born with God abi?

Friend being born of God has absolutely nothing to do with religion. One can be religious and not be born again, or born of God. Jesus said about the religious leaders of his days on earth, "this people honour me with their lips but their heart(the inner man) is far from me, teaching for doctrine the tradition of men."

Not everybody that is putting on suit and tie is actually born of God.
Re: Homosexuality by princy80(m): 9:43pm On Jan 26, 2019
bloodofthelamb:


Friend being born of God has absolutely nothing to do with religion. One can be religious and not be born again, or born of God. Jesus said about the religious leaders of his days on earth, "this people honour me with their lips but their heart(the inner man) is far from me, teaching for doctrine the tradition of men."

Not everybody that is putting on suit and tie is actually born of God.

Please, school me. What do you mean by "God"? And what does it mean to be born of It/him/her?
Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 9:46pm On Jan 26, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
Is homosexuality a habit? If it's your position then I have no qualms with that. Habits can be unlearned.

If we can take their word for it when they say they are attracted to people of their gender, should we not also agree when they say they have been cured? Your desires for those behinds serve a purpose ultimately --the continuation of our kind. What purpose does homosexual attraction serve?

If it is only one person who has been genuinely cured, then it's enough to say that homosexuality is abnormal.
Why does homosexual keep existing in Saudi Arabia despite you can marry very early, have multiple wives and a very harsh punishment against same sex which is killing? Why is it still existing there?
Re: Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 9:53pm On Jan 26, 2019
LordReed:


Its a predisposition to like a particular thing. Can you honestly say you've never looked at a guy and said yep this guy looks good, I understand why ladies are all over him?

Where is this genuinely cured homosexual, I am still waiting for a good read.
How do they even know they are cured, lol.
Re: Homosexuality by LordReed(m): 9:58pm On Jan 26, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
https://www.focusonthefamily.com/socialissues/sexuality/leaving-homosexuality/de-sexualizing-the-deeper-needs-of-homosexuality

See my comments above.

This is how Alan describes the "healing" in another article:

What is the healing that we can expect?

If it is unrealistic to assume that we will attain the purity of sexuality just described, then what is a reasonable expectation for healing from same-sex attraction (SSA)? Some years ago I wrote this definition for healing from homosexuality: Healing from homosexuality occurs when an adult, whose primary or exclusive sexual and/or romantic attractions have been towards persons of the same sex, experiences a significant decrease in same-sex attractions and an increase in opposite-sex attractions to the extent that a heterosexual life that is emotionally, sexually and psychologically fulfilling is made possible. Accompanying these erotic and emotional changes is a change in self-perception in which the individual no longer identifies him or herself as homosexual.
https://www.virtueonline.org/anyone-ever-totally-healed-alan-medinger

Even this your guy knows it never goes away so what does it mean to say they are cured?
Re: Homosexuality by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:59pm On Jan 26, 2019
princy80:


Please, school me. What do you mean by "God"? And what does it mean to be born of It/him/her?

God is a Spirit who began all things. Being "born of God" is being led by the "Spirit of God." But you can't be led by the Spirit of truth and righteousness, if your heart(thoughts) are far from Him.

Guard your heart with all deligence for out it flows the issues of life. Allow God to transformed you by changing the way you think through his truths.

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Re: Homosexuality by LordReed(m): 10:02pm On Jan 26, 2019
tintingz:
How do they even know they are cured, lol.

They aren't. They seem to find ways to decrease the incidence of the homosexual acting on their feelings, the sexual attraction for the same sex never goes away it seems so there really is no "cure".

I even find the idea of a cure funny, it's like someone trying to convince me that I need to be cured of liking chocolate flavoured icecream. LMFAO!

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