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|Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 10:59am On Feb 06, 2019|
A lot of people think socialism is the solution to the world's problem in capitalist economies. While I might not be able to argue with die hard socialists just as I can't argue with a creationist, I would just list the dangers of socialism and why it is terrible.
1) IT NORMALISES ENVY : naturally, human beings are envious of those (especially their mates) that are more successful and instead of curbing the envy of the poor towards the rich, it gives room for the envious to take from the successful and share amongst themselves with impunity.
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 11:07am On Feb 06, 2019|
2) IT RATIONALIZES THEFT : the arm robber in a socialist economy would forcefully collect what you own all in the name of the state owning everything and wealth being equally distributed. The arm robber has good reasons or shall I say excuses to take from you and may even abuse the privilege to leaving you with nothing.
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 11:21am On Feb 06, 2019|
3) IT IDEALIZES STATE POWER : Well, that is socialism. Given that human beings are corrupt, giving a set of people absolute power without checks leads to totalitarianism, corruption, negligence of the people and abuse of human rights by the authorities with impunity.
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 11:29am On Feb 06, 2019|
4) IT PENALISES ACCOMPLISHMENT : in a capitalist economy, when you work hard to get $2m, the money is yours, you get to keep it and no one is entitled to your money. In a socialist state, what you earn belongs to the state and would be equally distributed to others, that's if the government is transparent in it's socialism otherwise they would pocket it and neglect the people and there is nothing anyone can do since the government has absolute power. Is it justified for you to work and have your salary distributed equally to others?
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 11:36am On Feb 06, 2019|
5) IT REWARDS INDOLENCE : Well, those who don't work shouldn't earn, right? Not in a socialist state. Wealth will be equally distributed whether you work or not. So just be lazy and do nothing, money will still be given to you.
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 11:44am On Feb 06, 2019|
6) IT PREACHES OBEDIENCE TO THE STATE : Well, the state is in charge, they control everything and therefore you have to submit to the state. Do what the state what's, even surrendering your freedom, so things would be okay. Remember what I said about giving absolute power, without checks, to a few set of people?
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 11:55am On Feb 06, 2019|
7) IT ENCOURAGES DEPENDANCE ON THE STATE BY TREATING CITIZENS AS CHILDREN : When people are entitled to get free stuffs and free stuffs are given to them, they become heavily dependent on the source of their free stuffs. Naturally, many would drop their handiwork and profession since they get free stuffs and are entitled to free stuffs. Just like children don't work because they depend on their parents, they won't work because the state would provide their basic needs.
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by sutsef134: 11:56am On Feb 06, 2019|
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 12:11pm On Feb 06, 2019|
8] ABUSE AND IMMORALITY FOR THE SAKE OF THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE : Since socialism is supposedly proposed as the solution to world problems in a capitalist state and is meant to serve the needs of the people, socialist leaders may get involved in immoral acts like the purge, human rights abuse etc. all in the name of working for the good of the people. There is nothing anyone can do since absolute power, without checks, is given to the state. Besides, you wouldn't want to upset the state because you depend on them and wouldn't want to be at the receiving end of their any immoral act of theirs.
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Asshurbanipal: 12:43pm On Feb 06, 2019|
All these are manifesting in SW
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 12:50pm On Feb 06, 2019|
9) ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, POVERTY, OPPRESSION AND STARVATION :
*) Who would want to be a doctor? Why go through the stress of medical school and specialising in any field of medicine when you can just sit down at home and get equally paid? With this, the medical field will eventually collapse in a socialist state and hospitals would be nothing to write home about. Even if the socialists leaders are transparent enough to fund hospitals, no one would be willing to be a doctor. Why would many want to go through the stress of teaching, going to school, getting a masters or PhD when they can just sit down at home and get free stuffs. With this, the educational system will collapse. In fact no one would want to work except do the basic necessary things to survive.
*) Since people would stop working since they are getting free stuffs, who is going to generate money? What happens when everyone runs out on other people's money? You get poverty and starvation. The state might not even care since they own everything and are well to do so they may ignore the people's need and there's nothing the people can do about that. Even if they wanted to provide, who is willing to work? The lazy government or the lazy people? Even if the government forced people, will they risk a rebellion or will they get what they want given that the people have no skills?
*) As I have explained, the state has absolute power without checks and they are everyone's hope of survival hence the room to abuse human rights and oppression of the people with impunity.
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 1:04pm On Feb 06, 2019|
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Asshurbanipal: 1:37pm On Feb 06, 2019|
This is 100% description of yorubaland.
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Ziggylady(f): 1:46pm On Feb 06, 2019|
Big time..Very lazy folks who do not want to work and earn a living wage.
They prefer 30k N-Pwer 9am-2pm teaching job were they can waste their potentials and lives even after graduating from Universities or 10k trader-moni scam for doing nothing.
When attendant poverty hits them,they go into yahoo scams or internet begging.
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by junnyjake(m): 2:26pm On Feb 06, 2019|
I've always maintained that socialism typifies communism in so many ways.
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 2:31pm On Feb 06, 2019|
junnyjake:Lol. True. Socialism eventually becomes communism.
"the goal of socialism is communism."
- Vladimir Lenin
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by abduljabbar4(m): 3:19pm On Feb 06, 2019|
Communism can never be actualised in reality and i am against it however, i would pick socialism over capitalism
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|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 4:27pm On Feb 06, 2019|
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 10:05pm On Feb 10, 2019|
Martinez39:No it does not, "NORMALISES ENVY" !
Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
In such a society, there will be no "poor" or at least, not so poor to be that envious because they know they have not done or had their forebears do what the rich had done to make them so rich.
Besides, the rich are not stupid! We demand the protection of the state, or hasta lavista poor people!
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 10:13pm On Feb 10, 2019|
Martinez39:It is not in a socialist society "that anyone could forcefully collect what you own all in the name of the state owning everything"! That happens in a thieves society or somewhere like that.
In a socialist society, the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned or regulated by the community as a whole so you would not allow any one to steal it if you can and would most definitely not steal it from yourselves!
Nor is wealth equally distributed in a socialist society! Some fly first class while some will walk!
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 10:15pm On Feb 10, 2019|
Martinez39:Socialism does not "give a set of people absolute power without checks"! You should be a part of the community exercising you own power to look after your own interest!
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 10:19pm On Feb 10, 2019|
budaatum:The nature of man's envy to have everyone below or on the same level as he is. One of motives behind socialism is the envy that the poor have towards the rich. Man's envy wants equality or superiority and alas socialism provides that equality. No one is rich, no one is poor.
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 10:19pm On Feb 10, 2019|
Martinez39:In a socialist society, "you" do not, all by yourself, work hard! Your arrow may be the arrow that struck the buffalo down dead, but "we" worked together to kill it, so why do you want to keep all the meat to yourself?
Share, dude. Unless you killed the buffalo and want to eat all by yourself!
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 10:22pm On Feb 10, 2019|
budaatum:The "state"(a group of leaders) is in charge of the means of the means of production even though everything is owned by the people and they would all receive equal share.
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by GenSpecifics: 10:23pm On Feb 10, 2019|
Communism is a Jewish invention by the Jewish rat Karl Marx, advanced by the Jewish mob headed by Trotsky, Lenin and co for the sole purpose of ushering global one world govt headed by the Jewish antichrist.
Communism is pure evil.
It never worked in the past and has continue to fail.
For further reference see Venezuela
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 10:25pm On Feb 10, 2019|
budaatum:Lol. In a socialist society, they would be those who contributed more or were vital to achieving a particular aim, why shouldn't they get more? Why should they get equal pay as others?
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 10:25pm On Feb 10, 2019|
Martinez39:"The nature of man's envy", what is that? Are you suggesting that because we are social no one knows their level? Be envious then, or a man if you want, and come and tell me you are superior or equal, and want to be on the same level.
Mr Man, the rich person is rich. How can a person who lacks take it off them?
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 10:28pm On Feb 10, 2019|
Martinez39:More what? You are a farmer in a socialist society, small land you plant and tend. Do you get the same as professors in universities get! Should you get what professors in universities get?
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 10:32pm On Feb 10, 2019|
Martinez39:They don't get equal pay! Some people live in the mansions in the cities that were built before we went socialist. And some still live far away in their villages where electric poles don't stand.
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by GenSpecifics: 10:32pm On Feb 10, 2019|
Have you seen the Democrats New Green Deal drafted by the batshit insane communist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?
Communism calls for big paternalistic central govts at the expense of personal freedom and growth.
Read up on the Holdomor genocide, Mao's man-made famine, Russian famine that was deliberately instigated by the Jewish Komrades that headed and ran the Soviet Communist party and while you are at it go and read how one crazy communist in Vietnam murdered well over 3 million of his citizens in his "green revolution".
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by budaatum: 10:35pm On Feb 10, 2019|
GenSpecifics:Socialism is not the same thing as communism.
|Re: Dangers Of Socialism. by Martinez39(m): 10:41pm On Feb 10, 2019|
budaatum:lol. I don't know how to respond to this. Read my post and read what you wrote. Nevertheless, even their previous cash would be distributed equally.
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