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Re: An Argument That God Does Not Exist. by oaroloye(m): 8:44pm On Feb 12
Golden6:
Now , they believe their obeying God .. they believe their children will die obeying God , and hence get whatever afterlife the Muslim believes to exists for "Allah's children"..
It's so easy to hate terrorists now our days isn't it...

. MATTHEW 5:38-48.

38. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'AN EYE FOR AN EYE,
AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH:'


39. "But I Say unto you,

'THAT YE RESIST NOT EVIL:
BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL SMITE THEE
ON THY RIGHT CHEEK,
TURN TO HIM THE OTHER ALSO.'


40. "And if any man
will sue thee at the Law,
and take away thy coat,
let him have thy cloak also.
41. "And whosoever shall
compel thee to go a mile,
go with him twain.
42. "Give to him that asketh thee,
and from him that would borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR,
AND HATE THINE ENEMY.'


44. "But I Say unto you,

'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES,
BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU,
DO GOOD TO THEM THAT HATE YOU,
AND PRAY FOR THEM
WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU,
AND PERSECUTE YOU;'


45. “That ye may be
The Children of your Father
Which is in Heaven:
for He maketh His Sun
to rise on the Evil
and on the Good,
and sendeth Rain
on the Just and on the Unjust.
46. "For if ye love them which love you,
what Reward have ye?
do not even the Publicans the same?
47. "And if ye salute your Brethren only,
what do ye more than Others?
do not even the Publicans so?
48. "Be ye therefore Perfect,
even as your Father
Which is in Heaven
is Perfect."

IT IS EASY FOR A WICKED PERSON LIKE YOURSELF, WHO NEVER LOVED LORD YESHUA, NOR FEARED GOD.

Lord Yeshua’s Disciples HATE NO ENEMY.

As for ISLAM being a "peaceful Religion," there are experts who show proof that it is not- here's one:

CRAIG WINN- author of "TEA WITH TERRORISTS."

He quotes ISLAM'S own Sources- The QUR'AN and THE HADITH/

Golden6:
If you read the post , and read the book , drunk with blood ..
Or if you have even read your Bible at all..
You will have read , the people , and cities,God "Gave" to the isrealites in the Bible...
"Kill All Women , Children, And Animals" ..Not once , not twice was this commanded by God , to the isrealites , in the Bible
I'll get the book again, and list the number of cities God Eroded totally..
From your belief.. because they where sinners and so he didn't love them
Well, let me tell you.. that is exactly, what most terrorists believe.. that their God, ordered them, to kill those who are not Muslims , because they are Sinners..
.. but for some reason , it's okay to hate Boko Haram , but believe the isrealites are God's people..
WHAT CAN ONE SAY TO SUCH STUPIDITY AND IDIOCY AS YOURS’?

THE CANAANITES were WORSHIPPERS of the Beings that FEED OFF OF SINNERS.

They were PERPETUATING THE CIRCUMSTANCES that forced GOD to DESTROY the whole Human Race, except for OUR EIGHT ANCESTORS who survived The Great Flood.

THEY ALL KNEW THAT YAHWEH GOD WAS THE CREATOR- YET THEY FOUGHT HIM, AND HIS PEOPLE, ANYWAY!

DAMN STRAIGHT God Commanded their summary executions!

They and their ANIMALS were riddled with VENEREAL DISEASES, from SEX WITH ANIMALS.

There was no reason to keep any of them alive.

What- should they have left these people alive, to come and attack them again?

ISLAMIC TERRORISTS ARE NOT COMPARABLE TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL.

There is ZERO EVIDENCE that ALLAH was GOD: THE CREATOR- he was just an IDENTITY-THIEF.

He could do NONE of His Works, but TALK.

For Muslims to entrust their ETERNAL DESTINY to HIM is the height of foolishness.

The Religions of the CANAANITES were SUPERIOR to ISLAM in POWER: their gods could actually DO THINGS. ALLAH cannot do ANYTHING ANY MORE- after having inspired MUHAMMAD.

That is called, in The Bible, a “FAMILIAR SPIRIT.”

Golden6:
Ohh,I didn't get the definition because the Bible is too long .. like I said , and I wouldn't spend my time reading it..
.. after all , even those who have read it , still have different ideas of who Their God is..[/qulote]

INSTEAD OF FINDING OUT GOD’S REASONS FOR DOING THINGS, YOU JUST PRESUME HE WAS STUPID- TO IMPRESS YOUR FRIENDS AND SPONSORS.

When you later find out that you have to GIVE ACCOUNT for every proud and arrogant word you uttered, you will find that they really didn’t care about you, but were feeding you to their Master, the whole time.
[quote author=Golden6 post=75567326]Well , I just said I got a Christian psychologist , who referred me to her church..
So she's evil for studying psychology ... I mean, how can she be a person who believes there is no God , nor soul ,nor spiritual powers , yet still be a born again..
May you , be even more messed up than I will be.
I mean.. I thought I specifically wrote to not insult ..
Well , obviously , you didn't intend preaching .. you actually took time to analyze this though..
ARE YOU REALLY SO STUPID AS NOT TO KNOW HOW OYINBO EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANITY WORKS?

“PSYCHOLOGY” is a PSEUDOSCIENCE that classifies FULL-GOSPEL PENTECOSTAL CHRISTIANITY as a MENTAL DISEASE. That is what BILLY GRAHAM believed in, and after deceiving people for like sixty
years, then came out to say that he “NO LONGER BELIEVED THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN!”

That is what Lord Yeshua meant, when he said that the FOOLISH MAN, who heard his Saying, but didn’t implement them, would CAVE IN under PRESSURE.

Lord Yeshua NEVER said that he was the ONLY Way to HEAVEN.

Going to Heaven is NOT beneficial to those who do not BELONG there.

Lord Yeshua Taught that, too.

THE PSYCHOLOGISTS HAVE TO STATE THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE BIBLICAL PROPHETS WERE MYTHICAL EXAGGERATIONS AND DELUDED.

Otherwise, they will not get LICENCED.

Golden6:
And now I am through.. but my only conclusion is that
You're a believer , who believes
God Does not know Everything
God cannot do Everything
God Does not love everyone .
Please... Do other Believer's also agree with him ?? ... Or her .

How can what other Believers, who do not believe The Bible matter to you, who have never read past GENESIS, and IGNORE Scriptures graciously presented to you?
Re: An Argument That God Does Not Exist. by Akin1212(m): 1:45am On Feb 13
TheRevivalist:


Before you talk, read carefully and understand well!!

I don't need to make myself happy by seeing the news and media stories about our "activities" . if you read well "mr know it all" you'll see I said "news and media" which entails a body of event happenings and informations in data and not "POPULATION" that you changed it to.

you know He isn't real right? So why wake up, pick up your phone and start cracking your head to make up epistles just so to prove something you "know" doesn't exist, doesn't exist do you need to create discussion and seek people's views and opinions from arguments before you are satisfied that God isn't real? for God sake, there are many profitable things you could do with your life. wait how come you are even able to gather all these things you call "facts" about who you said doesn't exist? You really know Him ooo or better still have "His" time.

atheist are the smallest in population worldwide and have little or no impact they are adding to the world. "religious" countries and people are by far more progressive.

you people criticize big churches and rich ministers about not helping their members asif they are the ones you voted to power, ignorant of the various empowerment platforms the Churches individually created for her members, and how will you know? When you don't even attend any? So don't argue.

atheists are just a group of confused people suffering from one emotional trauma caused by their family foundational problems that they couldnt solve and are now transferring the aggressions to believers. all atheists have dark pasts behind the atheism. you guys commit most of the suicide world wide and are the most unsettled because you are always angry at everything and everyone for not being like you.
but still it doesn't give u the right to corrupt or criticize other people's views. weren't you thought in school to always respect it? I guess I should expect nothing less from a misguided sheep.

those who say that there is no God, are DYING.
accept Him now and be saved!!! Jesus Christ is Waiting to forgive and accept you regardless of your sinful state.
better still go and do something meaningful with your life to show the world you are better or maybe solve her problems to prove your selves instead of hiding behind so called "epistles".

feel free to look for what you can quote from all I've said so far to use to continue pushing your pointless discussion.

I pray you see HIS LIGHT while it's still around you.

Trash, you type baloney thinking you make sense?

How does talking about gods means gods exist? Do you think at all? I talk about all the gods, so which of them exists? Then I suppose talking about Spiderman or Santa also mean they exist. Use your head to think, it's not by typing long posts and quoting the bible.
Re: An Argument That God Does Not Exist. by Golden6(m): 7:30am On Feb 13
" I lost interest in you from this point" , but still decided to write three lengthy replies .. K


"- will be a fool not to read further than Genesis--" ..K



"To write off Abraham as mere alternative or otherwise unimportant is cheating Abraham and therefore incurring the curse of God.."


I did not mention Abraham in my reply.. I simply asked you to be clearer about your point on circumcision , which I still don't get


".. Only Born Again's shall have God's Services ".. K


"THAT IS WHY YOU SHOULD GET YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF GOD FROM THE SCRIPTURES, AND NOT FROM CHURCHES."

.. Aren't pastor's supposed to be inspired/directed by God.
Isn't it God who speaks through them.. unless they are fakes..

Bringing up something I said before "I wonder if there is anyone truly Christlike".

Even Some Pastor's are not.. if somebody can fake being born again, up to being a pastor.. that's just another reason to believe that people may not be as Christlike as they seem..


"I NEVER WRITE THESE SCRIPTURES FOR PEOPLE TO READ- YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THE SCRIPTURES BEFORE EVER COMING TO THE INTERNET- ".. no one asked you to ... Make whatever point u want to make from the scripture.. I've read the 22 verses u just gave on Abraham. AND I DON'T GET WHAT POINT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE


"THE PURPOSE OF THE BIBLE IS TO ENABLE US TO LEARN HOW TO THINK MATURELY".. K

So unless you read the Bible , you aren't mature.. 5+ Billion people aren't mature, because you say so.. K

.. It's Hilarious you think of yourself as mature.It couldn't be more obvious that you lack Home Training ( Respect)




*HOW CAN GOD POSSIBLY LOVE A MAN WHO MURDERED HIS PEOPLE FOR BASE MATERIAL GAIN AS MUCH AS SOMEONE WHO DID HIS WILL THE WHOLE TIME, AND SAVED LIVES?"

 .. I wrote That everyone does what is best for themselves..
I would really try to write something to send this view of mine effectively ..

(I believe , that armed robber , did what he did , because it was the best decision available to him.. God should know that as well, so how can he hate someone for making the best decision available to him)

I know, even I would come after myself for claiming murder was the best decision available to a person.. it's not morally sound.. Yet , that's my belief..




"YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY STUPID TO KNOW THAT GOD CURSED, TORTURED, AND KILLED PEOPLE- AND THEN WONDER WHETHER THAT MEANT HE LOVED THEM OR HATED THEM!"

K .. God Hates sinners.. why does he now send his Children to go "save" them by doing evangelism..


"ONLY AN INSANE FOOL DOES NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOVE AND HATE!"
.. K


 "IF YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO READ THE BIBLE BEYOND THE BOOK OF GENESIS, AND NOT EVEN BELIEVE WHAT YOU READ IN THAT ONE BOOK, HOW CAN YOU BE SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND FURTHER EXPLANATIONS?"
... K




I never said being angry is wrong.. I meant acting on the impulse of anger is unwise



"YOU ARE STILL FOOLISH TO BE COMPARING YOURSELF WITH OTHER SINNERS, WHEN YOU HAVE FAILED TO KEEP THE ONLY COMMANDMENT THAT MATTERS!".. K


"GOD ONLY LOVES THOSE WHO LOVE HIS SON AND BELIEVE THAT HE CAME OUT FROM GOD."
From that God doesn't love those who practise Judaism ( isrealites ) .. Really??




My psychiatrist girlfriend
She was a psychologist , and is as old as my mother..


That statement of yours indicates your lack of Wisdom.



"IF GOD SENT ME TO THE BOKO HARAM, IT WOULD ONLY BE TO END THEM"

Lol.. i said if God sent you to go preach to them "save them" , you diverted to God sends you to kill them.. .. wtf

I don't think you evangelise .. you seem to have this belief that Unbeleivers are worthless and hopeless and only deserve death..



"GOD HAS NO REASON TO SEND SOMEONE TO KILL THE BOKO HARAM OR OTHERWISE RENDER THEIR ORGANIZATION DEFUNCT, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT VIOLATING ANY COMMANDMENTS OF GOD".
... Firstly I never mentioned killing Boko Haram , if God wanted to do that he should be able to do it on his own


Next , "They are not violating any commandments of God"
.. really.. how about " thou shall not kill".. ??

So you're claiming all the soldiers who spend their lives fighting to keep you safe are sinners ..? As they are trying to render Boko Haram extinct ??
To think those men are dying trying to protect you..




Asides, medicine and the armed forces .. I also don't get how anyone can be a believer yet practise those professions ..


Medicine , is it that you don't believe in your God's ability to heal.. or you believe he needs your help him to heal.. I believe Jesus never held a scalpel now did he... He simply touched , or prayed .. but you believe you can treat someone.. the only treatment they should need is a prayer..




And now the army ,

If they where born again , how exactly can going to kill people be justified..

" They are simply protecting Believer's by any means necessary". Because God can't do that by himself ??..

They need to sin?? ..


Moreover , why protect the saved , ..by sending the unsaved to hell ( well , you said hell doesn't exist , so


Why protect the saved ,by destroying the souls of the unsaved"...


If the saved die , they go to heaven , so death shouldn't be something to be afraid of / to be unwanted by a believer.



.. I actually respect and Appreciate both professions immensely.. I just done see how they can be "Christlike"




"ALL THOSE SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS KILLED BY THE BOKO HARAM WERE IN VIOLATION OF THIS COMMANDMENT OF GOD.
..
They were trying to create a Kingdom for their Church Organizations, not THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. That is why God didn’t Save them: they had REJECTED Salvation."


I guess you mean Christians who decided to evangelise to Boko , but lost their lives in the process violated God's Commandment ,?? .. Alright



Job didn't love his children.. he didn't teach them to be decout for themselves ..
Wow ...a man Good enough for God , is a man who doesn't love his children enough.. really?




"SEE HOW FOOLISH YOU ARE?

You have, by your own admission, NEVER READ THOSE VERSES IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE- notice that your PSYCHIATRIST MOMMA never counselled you to READ THE WHOLE BIBLE.

Yet you think that she is a “BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN!”

See how GULLIBLE you have been!"

It's like you didn't get me..
I walked into a psychologists office , looking for counselling ,
At the end of That day , she invited me to her church ,
I never went there again.


So I don't really understand all these your fantasies bayii..
PSYCHIATRIST MOMMA..
I wonder what sort of a holy mind yours is, Brother Oaroloye , that it independently developed such an immoral idea..
You're Clearly Mature ..



"WHERE WAS IT WRITTEN THAT IT WAS GOD’S DUTY TO PROTECT JOB’S CHILDREN?"
..lol.. so if you have kids , you do not expect God to protect them .. k


"WHEN YOU DIE WITHOUT KNOWING HOW TO NAVIGATE THE AFTERLIFE, YOU ARE THE VICTIM OF ANY PREDATOR THAT COMES ALONG."
.. didn't you say before that their souls simply cease to exist Ni??




"I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAINED HOW ABUBAKAR SHEKAU AND HIS CRONIES ARE PERFECTLY WITHIN THEIR DIVINE RIGHTS, AND ARE DOING NOTHING THAT MERITS CAPITAL DAMNATION."

.. wow.. I was simply trying to explain the concept of greater good too you.. I am not justifying the morality , or lack thereof , of the Boko Haram sect.

But just to be clear , it appears you are trying to justify them.. or I misunderstand you??




"I CONTINUALLY TELL YOU SINNERS THAT YOU ARE FOOLS, BECAUSE YOU ARE SO STUPID THAT YOU WILL OTHERWISE CONTINUE TO THINK THAT YOU ARE WISE."
.. K




"They FALSE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES will BEG and WHEEDLE people to come join their Churches, because they really don’t care about THEM- they just want their MONEY and ADULATION for their FLATTERING LIES."

Exactly.. even Entire churches , pastor's and members alike , can be Unsaved , by another Believer's standpoint .. so who is actually Christlike ..

If "someone that is Christlike" differs from church to church..



"THAT SHOWS HOW VERY STUPID AND IGNORANT YOU ARE BECAUSE THE SO-CALLED TERRORISTS ARE THE TRUE PRACTICIONERS OF ISLAM, AND FOLLOWERS OF THE QUR’AN."
..Have you read the Qur'an??
.. If yes , Go and read it again..



"It is the peaceful Muslims who are the heretics and cowards of their Religion"
... So you would rather all Muslims are violent murderers who kill everyone that doesn't accept their belief ??.. because you sound annoyed / insultive towards the peaceful Muslims



"LOVE YOUR ENEMIES,
BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU,
DO GOOD TO THEM THAT HATE YOU,
AND PRAY FOR THEM
WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU,
AND PERSECUTE YOU;"

But for some reason , God Hates Sinners .. K



"IT IS EASY FOR A WICKED PERSON LIKE YOURSELF, WHO NEVER LOVED LORD YESHUA, NOR FEARED GOD.

Lord Yeshua’s Disciples HATE NO ENEMY.

As for ISLAM being a "peaceful Religion," there are experts who show proof that it is not- here's one:

CRAIG WINN- author of "TEA WITH TERRORISTS.""


It's appalling , you willingly accept "experts" views on all other religions , but they unmistakably turn to "fools" when they have opinions that contradict your religion



.. read the book drunk with blood .. or read your Bible ..Read the amount of people God killed , and Why ..
But for some reason , he is Good..



"WHAT CAN ONE SAY TO SUCH STUPIDITY AND IDIOCY AS YOURS’?"

..like you didn't hear me from my first post..
Firstly try to tell me your point from the Bible verses you're quoting.. feel free to quote but let me get the point you are trying to make.

And second , try to be less insultive.. it is only demeaning any respect for yourself.




The cannanites .. Was it them only you saw
Lol


The Amalekites , even unborn generations
The LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek
from generation to generation. Exodus 17:16
Thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under
heaven; thou shalt not forget it. Deuteronomy 25:19


The midianites
Moses
"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every
woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women
children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive
for yourselves."



I'm just going to list them as they are much.. read the book .. or your Bible

Giants, the amorites , the people of Jericho , the people of ai . , 60 cities , amaziah , Syria , 20 more cities( unnamed) , the Anakim , the perrizites , moabites , ammonites , Philistines, every male in Edom , half a million isrealite soldiers , a million Ethiopians , and many more..

Numbered Killings in the Bible -
2.4 million..


Estimated total 4.6 million ( excluding 20million estimated alive during Noah's ark)


You justify all these Killings , and call the executer / approver of them "Good" .. Okay then




"INSTEAD OF FINDING OUT GOD’S REASONS FOR DOING THINGS, YOU JUST PRESUME HE WAS STUPID- TO IMPRESS YOUR FRIENDS AND SPONSORS.".. K




"How can what other Believers, who do not believe The Bible matter to you, who have never read past GENESIS, and IGNORE Scriptures graciously presented to you?"


If you as well believe There are other Believer's who do not believe in God the right way,.. what have you done to point them in the right direction.. you simply ignore...
Moreover .. you , could most likely , be the one headed in the wrong direction..
Re: An Argument That God Does Not Exist. by Golden6(m): 5:53pm On Feb 16
oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!

Why make up silly theories about God, and then reject God, when He does not measure up to them?



GOD CANNOT DO "ANYTHING."

God cannot lie, nor contradict Himself.

. MATTHEW 12:22-37.

22. Then was brought unto him
one possessed with a Devil,
blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that the blind and dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people were amazed,
and said,

"Is not this the Son of David?"

24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said,

"THIS FELLOW DOTH NOT
CAST OUT DEVILS,
BUT BY BEELZEBUB
THE PRINCE OF THE DEVILS."


25. And Jesus knew their thoughts,
and said unto them,

"Every kingdom divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan cast out Satan,
he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?"
27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils,
by whom do your children cast them out?
therefore they shall be your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils by the Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one enter into
a Strong Man's House, and spoil his Goods,
except he first bind the Strong Man?
and then he will spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me is against me;
and he that gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I Say unto you,

'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'


32. "And whosoever speaketh a word
against the Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known by his fruit.
34. "O generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being evil, speak good things?
for out of the abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A good man out of
the good treasure of the heart
bringeth forth good things:
and an evil man out of the evil treasure
bringeth forth evil things.
36. "But I Say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'


37. "For by thy words thou shalt be justified,
and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."


GOD CANNOT FIGHT AGAINST HIS OWN OPERATIONS.

GOD DOES NOT KNOW EVERYTHING.

. GENESIS 18:20.

20. And The LORD Said,

"Because the Cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great,
and because their Sin is very grievous;
21. "I will go down now, and see whether they have done
altogether according to the Cry of it,
which is come unto Me; and if not, I will know."

GOD OPERATES ABOVE THE EARTH UNIVERSE LEVEL, ON SEVEN LEVELS OF WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING.

Therefore, He cannot observe Foolishness and Stupidity on Earth, unless He is prepared to immediately judge whatever He looks at.

He cannot be party to Evil.

Therefore, He does not want to know everything.

GOD DOES NOT LOVE EVERYONE EQUALLY.

What sort of stupid idea would that be?

. GENESIS 17:1-14.

AND when Abram was ninety years old and nine,
The LORD appeared unto Abram,
and Said unto him,

"I am The Almighty God;
walk before Me,
and be thou perfect.
2. "And I will make My Covenant
between Me and thee,
and will multiply thee exceedingly."

3. And Abram fell on his face:
and God Talked with him,
Saying,

4. "As for Me,
behold, My Covenant is with thee,
and thou shalt be
a father of many nations.
5. "Neither shall thy name
any more be called 'Abram,'
but thy name shall be 'Abraham;'
for a father of many nations
have I made thee.
6. "And I will make thee exceeding fruitful,
and I will make nations of thee,
and kings shall come out of thee.
7. "And I will establish My Covenant
between Me and thee
and thy seed after thee in their generations
for an Everlasting Covenant,
to be a God unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee.
8. "And I will give unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee,
the land wherein thou art a stranger,
all the land of Canaan,
for an Everlasting Possession;
and I will be their God.”

9. And God said unto Abraham,

" Thou shalt keep My Covenant therefore,
thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
10. "This is My Covenant,
which ye shall keep,
between Me and you and thy seed after thee;

'EVERY MAN CHILD AMONG YOU
SHALL BE CIRCUMCISED.'


11. "And ye shall circumcise
the flesh of your foreskin;
and it shall be a Token of The Covenant
betwixt Me and you.
12. "And he that is eight days old
shall be circumcised among you
every man child in your generations,
he that is born in the house,
or bought with money of any stranger,
which is not of thy seed.
13. "He that is born in thy house,
and he that is bought with thy money,
must needs be circumcised:
and My Covenant shall be in your flesh
for an Everlasting Covenant.
14. "And the uncircumcised man child
whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised,
that soul shall be cut off from his people;
he hath broken My Covenant."

. DEUTERONOMY 28:1-20.

AND it shall come to pass,
if thou shalt hearken diligently
unto The Voice of The LORD thy God,
to observe and to do
all His Commandments
Which I Command thee this day,
that the LORD thy God
will set thee on high
above all nations of the Earth.
2. And all these Blessings
shall come on thee,
and overtake thee,
if thou shalt hearken unto
The Voice of The LORD thy God.
3. Blessed shalt thou be in the city,
and blessed shalt thou be in the field.
4. Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body,
and the fruit of thy ground,
and the fruit of thy cattle,
the increase of thy kine,
and the flocks of thy sheep.
5. Blessed shall be thy basket
and thy store.
6. Blessed shalt thou be
when thou comest in,
and blessed shalt thou be
when thou goest out.
7. The LORD shall cause thine Enemies
that rise up against thee
to be smitten before thy face:
they shall come out
against thee one way,
and flee before thee seven ways.
8. The LORD shall
Command the Blessing
upon thee in thy storehouses,
and in all that thou settest
thine hand unto;
and He shall Bless the
in the land which
The LORD thy God giveth thee.
9. The LORD shall establish thee
an Holy people unto Himself,
as he hath sworn unto thee,
if thou shalt keep
The Commandments of
The LORD thy God,
and walk in His Ways.
10. And all people of the Earth
shall see that thou art
called by The Name of the LORD;
and they shall be afraid of thee.
11. And The LORD shall make thee
plenteous in goods,
in the fruit of thy body,
and in the fruit of thy cattle,
and in the fruit of thy ground,
in the land which The LORD sware
unto thy fathers to give thee.
12. The LORD shall open unto thee
His Good Treasure,
the Heaven to give the rain
unto thy land in his season,
and to Bless all the Work of thine hand:
and thou shalt lend unto many nations,
and thou shalt not borrow.
13. And The LORD shall
make thee the head,
and not the tail;
and thou shalt be above only,
and thou shalt not be beneath;
if that thou hearken unto
The Commandments of The LORD thy God,
Which I Command thee this day,
to observe and to do them:
14. And thou shalt not go aside
from any of the Words
Which I Command thee this Day,
to the right hand,
or to the left,
to go after other gods
to serve them.

15. But it shall come to pass,
if thou wilt not hearken unto
The Voice of The LORD thy God,
to observe to do
all His Commandments
and His Statutes
Which I Command thee this Day;
That all these Curses
shall come upon thee,
and overtake thee:

16. Cursed shalt thou be in the city,
and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
17. Cursed shall be thy basket
and thy store.
18. Cursed shall be
the fruit of thy body,
and the fruit of thy land,
the increase of thy kine,
and the flocks of thy sheep.
19. Cursed shalt thou be
when thou comest in,
and cursed shalt thou be
when thou goest out.

20. The LORD shall send upon thee
cursing, vexation, and rebuke,
in all that thou settest thine hand unto
for to do,
until thou be destroyed,
and until thou perish quickly;
because of the wickedness of thy doings,
whereby thou hast forsaken Me.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WORKING TO SUPPORT GOD'S INTERESTS, AND PEOPLE WORKING IN OPPOSITION TO GOD'S INTERESTS, AGAINST HIS WILL- AND YOU THINK THAT GOD LOVES THEM EQUALLY?

Something must be wrong with that your brain!

Does your gumption not function?



. MATTHEW 13:1-23.

THE same day
went Jesus out of the house,
and sat by the sea side.
2. And great multitudes were
gathered together unto him,
so that he went into a ship, and sat;
and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
3. And he Spake many things
unto them in Parables,
Saying,

"Behold, a Sower went forth to sow;
4. "And when he sowed,
some seeds fell by the way side,
and the fowls came
and devoured them up:
5. "Some fell upon stony places,
where they had not much earth:
and forthwith they sprung up,
because they had no deepness of earth:
6. "And when the Sun was up,
they were scorched;
and because they had no root,
they withered away.
7. "And some fell among thorns;
and the thorns sprung up,
and choked them:
8. "But other fell into good ground,
and brought forth fruit,
some an hundredfold,
some sixtyfold,
some thirtyfold.
9. "Who hath ears to hear,
let him hear."

10. And the Disciples came,
and said unto him,

"Why Speakest thou unto them in Parables?"

11. He answered and Said unto them,

"Because it is given unto you to know
The Mysteries of The Kingdom of Heaven,
but to them it is not given.
12. "For whosoever hath,
to him shall be given,
and he shall have more abundance:
but whosoever hath not,
from him shall be taken away
even that he hath.
13. "Therefore Speak I to them in Parables:
because they seeing see not;
and hearing they hear not,
neither do they understand.
14. "And in them is fulfilled
the Prophecy of Esaias,
which saith,

'BY HEARING YE SHALL HEAR,
AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND;
AND SEEING YE SHALL SEE,
AND SHALL NOT PERCEIVE:
15. 'FOR THIS PEOPLE'S HEART
IS WAXED GROSS,
AND THEIR EARS
ARE DULL OF HEARING,
AND THEIR EYES
THEY HAVE CLOSED;
LEST AT ANY TIME
THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES
AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND
WITH THEIR HEART,
AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED,
AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.'


16. "But Blessed are your eyes,
for they see:
and your ears,
for they hear.
17. "For verily I Say unto you,

'THAT MANY PROPHETS
AND RIGHTEOUS MEN
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.'


18. "Hear ye therefore
The Parable of the Sower.

19. 'WHEN ANY ONE HEARETH
THE WORD OF THE KINGDOM,
AND UNDERSTANDETH IT NOT,
THEN COMETH THE WICKED ONE,
AND CATCHETH AWAY THAT
WHICH WAS SOWN IN HIS HEART.
THIS IS HE WHICH RECEIVED SEED
BY THE WAY SIDE.


20. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED THE SEED
INTO STONY PLACES,
THE SAME IS HE
THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND ANON WITH JOY
RECEIVETH IT;
21. 'YET HATH HE NOT ROOT IN HIMSELF,
BUT DURETH FOR A WHILE:
FOR WHEN TRIBULATION OR PERSECUTION
ARISETH BECAUSE OF THE WORD,
BY AND BY HE IS OFFENDED.


22. 'HE ALSO THAT RECEIVED SEED
AMONG THE THORNS
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD;
AND THE CARE OF THIS WORLD,
AND THE DECEITFULNESS OF RICHES,
CHOKE THE WORD,
AND HE BECOMETH UNFRUITFUL.


23. 'BUT HE THAT RECEIVED SEED
INTO THE GOOD GROUND
IS HE THAT HEARETH THE WORD,
AND UNDERSTANDETH IT;
WHICH ALSO BEARETH FRUIT,
AND BRINGETH FORTH,
SOME AN HUNDREDFOLD,
SOME SIXTY,
SOME THIRTY.' "


God cannot know who will receive The Gospel and who won't because He cannot know what stupid people will do, unless He interferes in their lives.

He knows what people should do- but they usually won't.



This is an example of the "stupidity" I was talking about.

How could you be SAVED, when you didn't BELIEVE THE GOSPEL?

You are an ON-THE-ROCK.

You do not UNDERSTAND anything.

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD, THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT (IS) WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL
(IS) UNDERSTANDING.' "


. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding have all they
that do (His Commandments):
His Praise endureth for ever.

. MARK 1:14-15.

14. Now after that John
was put in prison,
Jesus came into Galilee,
preaching The Gospel
of The Kingdom of God,
15. And Saying,

"The time is fulfilled,
and The Kingdom of God is at hand:
repent ye,
and believe The Gospel."

HOW CAN YOU BE SAVED, WHEN YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR GOD, NOR REMORSE FOR YOUR SINFULNESS?



THIS AMOUNT OF SILLINESS IS UNBELIEVABLE!

Are you DRUNK?

. MATTHEW 12:35.

35. "A good man out of
the good treasure of the heart
bringeth forth good things:
and an evil man out of the evil treasure
bringeth forth evil things.

GOD GAVE YOU A SIMPLE INSTRUCTION: REPENT, AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL- BEING SUCH A WICKED SOUL, YOU DECIDED NOT TO OBEY GOD.

Nobody else made that decision for you: YOU, AND ONLY YOU, DECIDED THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE SAVED.

Then you COMPOUNDED your DAMNATION with BLASPHEMY, Ssaying that GOD CHOSE for you to REJECT His Mercy!

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any soul sin through ignorance,
then he shall bring a she goat of the first year
for a sin offering.
28. "And the Priest shall make an Atonement
for the soul that sinneth ignorantly,
when he sinneth by ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him.
29. "Ye shall have One Law for him
that sinneth through ignorance,
both for him that is born among The Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them.
30. "But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously,
whether he be born in the Land, or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth the LORD;
and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
31. "Because he hath Despised The Word of The LORD,
and hath Broken His Commandment,
that soul shall utterly be cut off;
his iniquity shall be upon him."

THE PROMISES OF SALVATION ONLY APPLY TO THOSE WHO SIN UNKNOWINGLY!

There are NO PROMISES obliging God to FORGIVE anyone who SINS KNOWINGLY.



IT DOES NOT GET ANY MORE STUPID THAT THAT!

WHO TOLD YOU that God LOVES EVERYONE?

What EVIDENCE did they SHOW YOU, that PROVED to you that "GOD LOVES EVERYONE?"

. JOHN 14:21-27.

21. "He that hath my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."

22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot,

"Lord, how is it that thou
wilt manifest thyself unto us,
and not unto the World?"

23. Jesus answered and Said unto him,

"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and The Word which ye hear is not mine,
but The Father's which sent me.
25. "These things have I Spoken unto you,
being yet present with you.
26. "But the Comforter,
Which is The Holy Ghost,
Whom the Father will send in my Name,
He shall Teach you All Things,
and bring All Things to your remembrance,
whatsoever I have Said unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart be troubled,
neither let it be afraid."

TO LOVE SOMEONE IS TO GO OUT-OF-YOUR-WAY TO MAKE THEM HAPPY.

To LOVE someone means TO DO WHATEVER THEY SAY, AND GIVE THEM WHATEVER THEY NEED.

Where have you seen GOD do that for SINNERS?







John 3 : 16
16
KJV: FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD (Did it say Believer's?), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
NIV: FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.






1 Timothy 2 : 4
KJV:WTho WILL HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

NIV: WHO WANTS ALL PEOPLE TO BE SAVED and to come to a knowledge of the truth.



2 Peter 3 : 9
KJV:The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH, BUT that ALL should COME TO REPENTANCE.

NIV:The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, NOT WANTING ANYONE TO PERISH, BUT EVERYONE to COME TO REPENTANCE.





Yet you proudly Argue God Does not "love" everyone, Go Read Your Bible Again.






John 6 :44

KJV: NO MAN CAN COME TO ME, EXCEPT THE FATHER which hath sent me DRAW HIM: and I will raise him up at the last day.

NIV:“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.



John 6 :65

KJV:And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

NIV:He went on to say, “This is why I told you that NO ONE CAN COME TO ME UNLESS THE FATHER has ENABLED THEM.”




Yet you say God Doesn't chose who gets to be "saved" . Read Your Bible Again.
Re: An Argument That God Does Not Exist. by Johilo(m): 6:13pm On Feb 17
Akin1212:


So before the book of John was written less than 2000 years ago, there was no empathy? You are truly deceived. Empathy is not a command, it's common sense and it has been practised well before the Bible was written.

Your neighbor at least we can prove, but who is God? Wake up abeg.
according to the holy bible, God is a spirit and dos who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth..... God is a supernatural being and he came from nowhere..
Re: An Argument That God Does Not Exist. by Johilo(m): 6:17pm On Feb 17
Akin1212:


The bible covers nothing but your fantasies. It didn't even tell us how to cure ordinary malaria cheesy grin grin
may God have mercy on you...
Re: An Argument That God Does Not Exist. by Akin1212(m): 6:22pm On Feb 17
Johilo:
according to the holy bible, God is a spirit and dos who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth..... God is a supernatural being and he came from nowhere..

And where is nowhere? And when did God come from nowhere, how long ago?

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