firestar:
Interesting subject you picked Milord Reed.

I agree with you and other gents here that memories are fragile even suppressed.
There’s a photo I’ve seen that I can’t recall ever taking at a tender age. Yet, there are instances of flashbacks triggered by stimuli:
Fragrance.
Music.
Scene.
Hugs.
Food.

Ihedinobi3:

Firestar!!! Hiiii!!! Long time, girl. How have you been?

Ihedinobi3:

I am saying that our bodies can barely remember what happened yesterday much less what happened when we were 2.

As for conception, the human spirit is only created and put into the body after it has been formed. So, the human person (or soul) only begins to exist at birth, not at conception.

firestar:
Interesting subject you picked Milord Reed.

I agree with you and other gents here that memories are fragile even suppressed.
There’s a photo I’ve seen that I can’t recall ever taking at a tender age. Yet, there are instances of flashbacks triggered by stimuli:
Fragrance.
Music.
Scene.
Hugs.
Food.

Ihedinobi3:

I am quite sure that an analogy is a sufficient demonstration in many cases. But I'll humor you.

All physical things can be measured by physical means. We can measure the length, weight, amount, strength etc of all sorts of things. In what way do you measure memories themselves?

MuttleyLaff:
I vividly remember telling one of my kids, salient truths, but when I asked about it years later, the kid has no recollection, we had the conversation. I've put it down to what I call "kid amnesia". Now on about your question, well, the reason why no one can remember anything from conception to about 2 years old is because apparently our brains at that period isnt developed to function enough as to be putting our experiences down as memories

LordReed:


Glad you appreciate. Haven't seen you around here in a while. Hope you are well.

LordReed:
So how does the soul and/or spirit now possess these memories? Or it/they don't?

firestar:


Yes I am!
Thank you for asking.
And you Milord, if I may, what inspired you to enquire?

MuttleyLaff:
As I earlier said, I vividly remember sharing salient points and facts of life with one of my kids when younger, and was stunned, when years later, I asked about them but was told couldnt remember me saying them. I've since put the non recollection down to what I call "kid amnesia" Also, like I also earlier said, the reason why no one remembers anything from conception to about 2 years old is because apparently our brains at that period isnt developed to function enough as to be putting our experiences down as memories. Now to this your other question of how the soul and/or spirit now possess these memories, well, this is not an easy or stratightforward question to answer because which type of memories are you talking about

LordReed:
Memories of significant events or even of mundane things like we seem to recall from time to time. I doubt anybody remembers what his/her mother's breast tasted like even though you sucked on it for months, day in, day out.

MuttleyLaff:
I am quite sure, there exists, at least one person who does but then the breast I sucked recently, though I remember enjoying the suck, I dont really have any recollection of how it tasted. I guess, my brain just failed to store up the memory of the breast taste.

LordReed:


My own personal inquires into why my memories seem to attenuate into seeming nonexistence beyond the age of 3. If we have spirits/souls independent of the body with our personalities and memories which can survive death why is this the case? I wanted to hear what those who believe in the existence of spirits/souls have to say about it.

firestar:


Is the Spirit/Soul independent of our very being?

Or rather, what exactly consists of our existence that is Life?

I remember something about what is quoted in the Scriptures ( Would have to revisit my notes)
about Jesus always referring to His Father especially when he was a child of 12. If he was aware of his pre-existence even as a child, doesn’t it not open more questions to the human consciousness?

LordReed:
1 out of billions?

firestar:


Is the Spirit/Soul independent of our very being?

Or rather, what exactly consists of our existence that is Life?

MuttleyLaff:
I am certain there exists more than one person out of billions

LordReed:
Yet such persons have not been found.

MuttleyLaff:
Trust me such persons are found. Besides that, the freakishness out about, there is a high propability these are those whose hippocampus developed faster than others to make them retain some and certain memories from conception to about 2 years old. Their numbers are few and far in between. I can share some uncanny stories of these few and far in between and their stories of memories from conception to about 2 years old with you, but since I dont want to particularly freak or alarm anyone, I wouldn't.

LordReed:
Link to where such people have been studied or even mentioned.

MuttleyLaff:
Read about a study done by the UK newspaper, the Guardian, done with its readers contributing their memories from conception to about 2 years old and more experiences, start from last paragraph on page 305 up to page 314 of this [url=https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CfyrQhNfj5QC&lpg=PA308&ots=bLRslbEt5F&dq=I%20had%20a%20dream%20when%20I%20was%20around%20four%20years%20old%20that%20I%27ve%20never%20forgotten.%20I%20dreamt%20that%20I%20was%20sucked%20up%20by%20my%20mum%27s%20vacuum%20cleaner%2C%20the%20type%20with%20the&pg=PA308#v=onepage&q=]In Search of Self[/url] link

LordReed:
Interesting read. However several issues arise when checking this out. 1st it was not a study done by the Guardian, it was user submitted stories to a website purportedly called Helium.com. 2nd when you go to Helium.com you find it is a tech solutions website but if you do a search for helium.com, you get a result that indicates there was a paid writing service called helium.com that paid people for writing articles. That throws up the question how much are you going to trust the stories of people who are paid to write stories.

In any case I found some in other places. I will take my time to go through.

firestar:


(Hugs Ihedinobi3 and lifts him with superhuman strength!)

I am alright Love, not bad at all and you?
Indeed its been awhile!

LordReed:


At what point does that happen? When the baby is in the process or after? Note that during the process doctors are concerned with having it elongated lest the baby weaken and die.

LordReed:


It is not.

LordReed:
I have no idea if memories themselves can be measured how ever fMRI can show the areas of the brain being activated by memory recall.

Sure, we can measure what parts of the brain are being used by our spirits when we do anything same as we can visually discern the physical movements of our bodies which are only the operations of our spirits through the equipment of our physical bodies.

But memories cannot be measured physically. Because they are not physical quantities.

Ihedinobi3:

I don't understand your question here. What process are you referring to and what are doctors concerned about being elongated?

MuttleyLaff:
They are interesting and surreal indeed. I actually have the original content that is from a Guardian Newspaper website, if you want or prefer that. What I showed earlier were entirely copied off a Guardian Newspaper website to that link

LordReed:
Yes give the Guardian link.

LordReed:
That is not the kind of demonstration I was referring to.

LordReed:
LoL, so in effect the spirit does not function independently of the body?

LordReed:


The birthing process, when the baby is emerging. I am asking if at that point the spirit is already in the baby because the child can grow distressed if the process takes too long.

Ihedinobi3:

It happens at birth. Sometimes it doesn't happen and the baby is stillborn. But when it does happen, it happens at birth.