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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by orisa37: 9:03am On Feb 02, 2020
HE BACKSLIDES. AND BECOMES JUDAS ISCARIOT.
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 8:10am On Feb 09, 2020
Good morning
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by orisa37: 12:10pm On Feb 09, 2020
He or She becomes Bokoharam, Bandit and Fulani Herdsmen.
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by sonmvayina(m): 12:14pm On Feb 09, 2020
He has been liberated from mental slavery.

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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by 1Sharon(f): 3:34pm On Feb 09, 2020
sonmvayina:
He has been liberated from mental slavery.

Don't get smug
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by sonmvayina(m): 3:44pm On Feb 09, 2020
1Sharon:


Don't get smug

What?
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by 1Sharon(f): 12:22am On Feb 10, 2020
sonmvayina:


What?

Who are you to say he was mentally enslaved, when you're a jew? You're still like them
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by nlPoster: 12:54am On Feb 10, 2020
This person's speech is so offensive.

Mods, can you ban her for sometime?
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by sonmvayina(m): 7:55am On Feb 10, 2020
1Sharon:


Who are you to say he was mentally enslaved, when you're a jew? You're still like them

Me?.. A jew?... I am not oh, I am from delta state in Nigeria.. Just that our omenala or custom is almost identical to the Jewish Torah...
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by 1Sharon(f): 8:01am On Feb 10, 2020
sonmvayina:


Me?.. A jew?... I am not oh, I am from delta state in Nigeria.. Just that our omenala or custom is almost identical to the Jewish Torah...

Ok so you don't follow the religion of Judaism?
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by sonmvayina(m): 4:03pm On Feb 10, 2020
1Sharon:


Ok so you don't follow the religion of Judaism?

you did not see the other part of my post...i said the Jewish religion is same as our own igbo religion...just the nomenclature is different..i used the Jewish bible because that is what the majority of people are familiar with..
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 7:57pm On Feb 10, 2020
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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 6:50pm On Mar 01, 2020
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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 7:41pm On Mar 02, 2020
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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 10:19am On Mar 14, 2020
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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by Nobody: 10:27am On Mar 14, 2020
Nothing happens to HIM or HER.

They get on with their lives happily ever after.....
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by JoyAda1234(f): 11:05am On Mar 14, 2020
He becomes an unbeliever.
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by Nobody: 12:54pm On Mar 14, 2020
Before you can answer that question, you need to distinguish between a Christian and a Churchgoer!

What the Churches of Christendom are teaching people has nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus.

Before someone becomes a Christian, he must have gotten answers to these questions:-

Who is God?
Who is Jesus?
Who is Satan?
What is God's purpose for the earth?
Why did God allows suffering?
What happens to us at death?
What is the condition of the dead?
Can we see our dead loved ones again?
When we will see our dead loved ones?
What is God's purpose for marriage?

If you can't answer all these questions with competency from the Bible, then know that you're just a churchgoer NOT a Christian! smiley

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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 10:43pm On Mar 14, 2020
Lord Jesus
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 7:25am On Mar 15, 2020
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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 9:58pm On Mar 16, 2020
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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 7:11am On Mar 22, 2020
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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 3:57pm On May 03, 2020
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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 7:32pm On May 10, 2020
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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 8:38am On May 11, 2020
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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 7:41am On May 12, 2020
Good morning
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 10:17am On May 13, 2020
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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by petra1(m): 10:56am On May 13, 2020
Every sin is forgivable if a man repent except he commits the umpadonabke sin unto death which is apostasy

1 John 5:16-17 (ASV)
16 If any man see his brother sinning a sin not unto death, he shall ask, and God will give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: not concerning this do I say that he should make request. 17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.


This sin is not committed by mistake . It's a withdrawal unto,perdition
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by davidinchrist(m): 5:50pm On May 13, 2020
jiggaz:
A Bible study by Prince Gabriel Okocha

Due to circumstances of life and lack of deep roots in a Christian’s convictions towards the Gospel, he may wake up one morning and say he no longer believes the Gospel. If such a thing ever happens, what would become his fate?

The above question (paraphrased) was one of the questions we recently received on one of our articles published on the popular Nigerian website, Nairaland. Here we will see together from the scriptures what will happen to people like that.

There are two things that can lead to someone coming up to say they no longer believe the Gospel. The first is the fact that they did not allow the Word take it’s form in them in the first place after they heard it.

They have learnt of the Gospel (through books, audio messages or someone teaching them) and are no longer ignorant of it. They may have even become a part of a local church, joined a department and even held a leadership position for some time.

However, because they have not made a conscious decision to accept or receive the things they have known concerning the Gospel on a personal level (for themselves), they cannot be said to be genuinely born again.


These are the first set of people to always stand up to say they no longer believe in the Gospel claiming that the Gospel is a lie or even say things more abominable about it to whomsoever they come across.

(1Jn 2:18) Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

(1Jn 2:19) They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

(1Jn 2:20) But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

Unknowingly to them and those around them, they have never really believed the Gospel in the first place even though they may have at a point changed their behaviours to imitate the lifestyle of those born again. All they had was a change of behaviours, not a change of heart. And so they have never really been God’s children in the first place.

Getting such people to be truly converted is always a near impossible task, seeing that they have known and understood almost everything about the Gospel and still choose not to accept it. An action Hebrews 10:26 calls wilful sin.

Please see WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO SIN WILFULLY IN HEBREWS 10:26 to learn more about this set of people.

The second set of people this can happen to are those who have genuinely accepted or received the Gospel with their whole heart but are yet to be rooted in Christ.

They are truly born again, having believed the Gospel with their whole heart and have received the person of the Holy Spirit within them.

However, due to lack of proper training of the Spirit and the renewal of the mind through the Word, they are likely to say they no longer believe the Gospel when persecution, sickness and other difficult life situations arise.


For these set of people, their claim to no longer believe the Gospel as a result of these external influences does not in any way separate them from God. They are still saved. This is because Salvation being a gift of God’s amazing grace, is not dependent on what a man does or fail to do after he is saved. It is completely God’s work from start to finish.

(Eph 2:cool For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
(Eph 2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.


Our duty towards such people is to find out what went wrong with their convictions (not with a judgemental attitude) and offer our help where necessary. This is where praying and demonstrating the love of God towards them must become our top priority.

A very powerful prayer we can pray for such people is the Pauline prayer found in Ephesians 1

(Eph 1:17) That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
(Eph 1:18) The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
(Eph 1:19) And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
(Eph 1:20) Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,


As we give ourselves to prayer and the extending of God’s love (the Word) towards them, we will see them like the prodigal son, have a rethink and return back to the Faith. But should they choose to remain or go further in their claim, we by faith leave them in the loving arms of their Father whom we know is able and willing to keep anyone He has once saved till the end.

(Joh 10:28) And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
(Joh 10:29) My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.


We may not know how He does this but the Word says He will keep His own to the end so we trust Him.

(Jud 1:24) Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
(Jud 1:25) To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.


I hope this blesses you.
Glory to God!


https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/03/christian-says-he-no-longer-believe-gospel.html?m=1


Hmm. Sorry, I'm not trying to argue but this post is dangerously misleading. I got attracted by the topic at first, but later things began to go wrong:

If this was true, why would the Father send Jesus as a sacrifice for sins in the first place.

We need to understand this properly so as not lead ourselves and others astray.

Please see some (if not ALL) of these, "IF" you don't mind:

Luke 8:13 KJV
They on the rock are they , which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have NO ROOT which for a while believe, and in time of temptation FALL AWAY.

1 Corinthians 10:12 KJV
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL.

Hebrews 6:6 KJV
If they shall FALL AWAY, to "renew" them again unto "repentance"; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Luke 9:62 KJV
And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to THE plough, and LOOKING BACK, is fit FOR the kingdom of God.

Jude 1:23 KJV
And others save with FEAR, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Romans 8:13 KJV
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

1 Peter 4:18 KJV
And if THE RIGHTEOUS SCARCELY be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

Luke 13:24 KJV
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: FOR MANY, I say unto you, WILL SEEK to enter in, and shall NOT be able.

Matthew 11:12 KJV
And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth VIOLENCE and the violent take it BY FORCE.

Hebrews 12:17 KJV
For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of REPENTANCE, though he sought it carefully WITH TEARS.

Hebrews 10:38-39 KJV
Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man DRAW BACK, my soul shall have NO PLEASURE in him.

[39] But we are NOT of them who DRAW BACK unto PERDITION; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

John 15:6 KJV
If a man ABIDE NOT in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them INTO THE FIRE, and they are BURNED.

Matthew 7:19-20 KJV
Every TREE that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast INTO THE FIRE.

***While it's true that NO ONE can pluck the Believer away from God, yet WE OURSELVES can WALK AWAY or Stop Obeying/Abiding in Jesus. We must be balance to avoid darkness.***

Nevertheless, if you or anyone still disagrees, OK then.

I don't justify myself.

But I hope at least few people will see through.

Thanks...

May Jesus Bless You.

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Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 8:35pm On May 13, 2020
Lord Jesus... The altogether lovely One...
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 4:21pm On Jun 30, 2020
jiggaz:
Lord Jesus, i see only you...
Re: What If A Christian Says He No Longer Believes The Gospel? What Happens To Him? by jiggaz(m): 8:26pm On Jun 30, 2020
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