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Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by Finallydead: 8:47pm On Nov 09, 2019 |
jiggaz:O |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by jiggaz(m): 1:09pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
Thank you Lord Jesus |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by jiggaz(m): 7:35pm On Nov 10, 2019 |
Yes Lord |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by jiggaz(m): 7:08pm On Dec 02, 2019 |
Right now |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by jiggaz(m): 6:03am On Dec 03, 2019 |
Yessss |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 7:20am On Dec 03, 2019 |
The name of Jesus can only be used by a believer. A non christian cant cast out devils in the name of Jesus . |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 7:23am On Dec 03, 2019 |
jiggaz: The name of Jesus can only be used by a believer. A non christian cant cast out devils in the name of Jesus . |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by jiggaz(m): 7:58pm On Dec 03, 2019 |
Thank you Lord Jesus |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 6:33am On Dec 04, 2019 |
Jigazz, can you address the issue I raised |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by MuttleyLaff: 10:00am On Dec 04, 2019 |
petra1: petra1:[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img] "22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’" - Matthew 7:22-23 What issue? So? OK then, who are the people in Matthew 7:22 above then that did exploits in Jesus' name erhn petra1? |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 3:47pm On Dec 04, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: The authority of the name of Jesus is given to believers. Unbelievers cant Use the power of his name . Remembered the Sons of Sceva . They tried to cast out devils with the name of christ yet they were none of his . The demon even replied them . Acts 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by MuttleyLaff: 4:20pm On Dec 04, 2019 |
petra1:petra1, forget all that, just tell, and answer the question about, who are the people in Matthew 7:22 above then that did exploits in Jesus' name erhn petra1? |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by jiggaz(m): 8:25pm On Dec 04, 2019 |
Lord Jesus the altogether lovely One... |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 1:38am On Dec 05, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: They are believers , ministers, but carnal |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by Finallydead: 4:06am On Dec 05, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:I think my post answers your question. |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by Finallydead: 4:16am On Dec 05, 2019 |
A |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by Finallydead: 4:16am On Dec 05, 2019 |
A |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by jiggaz(m): 6:13am On Dec 05, 2019 |
Good morning Lord Jesus |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by MuttleyLaff: 9:49am On Dec 05, 2019 |
Finallydead:I wanted an answer that is not more than a few words and to be done in not more than a sentence, not to be ferreting through a bail load of post. Can you manage that Finallydead? Give an answer in one sentence, hmm? If yes, then, who are the people in previously mentioned above Matthew 7:22 that did exploits in Jesus' name? petra1:Thank you for your candid response, lol. Now jiggaz, do you agree and accept that the people in Matthew 7:22 were believers, ministers etcetera but carnal, just as petra1 as succintly put it, hmm? 1 Like |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by kkins25(m): 10:08am On Dec 05, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Would our daddy G'Os fit into this criteria of "carnal", hmm?? |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by MuttleyLaff: 10:13am On Dec 05, 2019 |
kkins25:C'mon on now kkins25, I know you're jesting because you know I aint got no daddy G'Os, so ask another question, but this time be serious and stop slacking. 1 Like |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by kkins25(m): 10:15am On Dec 05, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:haba, you too are also aware im referring to the current bucnh of pastor-preneurs (as I like to call them). So would you classify the pastors who endulge in earthly, materialistic pleasures as "carnal" and the people jesus was referring to? |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by kkins25(m): 10:17am On Dec 05, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:A more serious question sir, how would the people in question be able to tap into the Holy spirit's source of power if they were never under its influence or were not recognized as children of God? |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by MuttleyLaff: 10:19am On Dec 05, 2019 |
kkins25:Would you call the Pope indulging in praying with a rosary Catholic? 1 Like |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by kkins25(m): 10:23am On Dec 05, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:by all means yes.. he is the pope isn't he. |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by MuttleyLaff: 10:28am On Dec 05, 2019 |
kkins25:People have been known to want to buy the Holy spirit's source of power even when they were never under its influence. People, equally have been known to want to try tap into the Holy spirit's source of power, even when they were never under its influence and not permitted nor in a position, to in the first place, be tapping into the Holy spirit's source of power. There is nothing new under the sun, all these things will continue to happen until the end of time |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by MuttleyLaff: 10:29am On Dec 05, 2019 |
kkins25:Exactly, so that sorts out your question then, lol. If the caps fits, wear it, lol |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 5:32am On Dec 06, 2019 |
Finallydead: Are you jiggaz? If you are , your post rather raise question which you have avoided to answer. At your spare time kindly read my post again and answer it . Or re-assess if what your post teaches is right or wrong |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 7:00am On Dec 06, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Jesus didnt refer to those who are trying to tap but those who actually Healed others with his name and cast devils out. Jesus said it all below Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by oaroloye(m): 7:41am On Dec 06, 2019 |
MISHIGAS! The greatest Christian Testimony of the modern day should belong to ORAL ROBERTS of Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA. KENNETH COPELAND- Outed by ANGLICAN TOM PALMER as a Roman Catholic Undercover Spy the whole time (he was killed in a motorcycle accident two weeks after they posed with the Pope Francis,) his former pilot, testified that he had prayed: "HOW CAN I KNOW JESUS?" He was answered: "READ MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN, AND THE BOOK OF ACTS- THREE TIMES IN THIRTY DAYS!" He did it on his knees. At the end of the thirty days, he testified, he "KNEW JESUS BETTER THAN HE KNEW ANY MAN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH!" "CRAMMING-IN" THE BIBLE TO THE MAXIMUM, CANNOT BE COMPARED WITH ANY OF THE TOTALLY-STUPID "BIBLE-STUDY PLANS," WHERE ONE READS AS LITTLE AS ONE VERSE PER DAY- AND CALL THAT ONE'S BIBLE READING FOR THE DAY! jiggaz: YOUR SAYING THAT "THERE ARE NO CONTROVERSIES IN SCRIPTURE" MERELY EXPOSES HOW IGNORANT YOU ARE OF SCRIPTURE. 1. Who appointed The Apostles to teach The Church the so-called New Testament? 2. Who invented "GRACE?" 3. What is the Cause of Sin? 4. Are Christians meant to die? 5. Who is more Powerful: Satan or Christians? 6. Why are there seven Churches? 7. Is Circumcision an Everlasting Covenant, or not? THESE ARE SEVEN EXAMPLES OF "CONTROVERSIES IN THE SCRIPTURES." Where you said that there are none. Either you lack perceptive ability, or else you are lying. I AM LEARNED IN SCIENTOLOGY, and one of its Fundamental Teachings is: IF YOU WANT TO DESTROY SOMETHING COMPLETELY, MAKE IT REDUNDANT. Therefore, if you want to DESTROY peoples' ability to understand, say The Bible, for instance, EXPLAIN IT TO THEM COMPLETELY. Don't allow them to figure anything out for themselves. Simply mansplain everything away. jiggaz: IT IS SO IRRITATING WHEN PEOPLE MAKE UP BIBLE DOCTRINES THAT HAVE NO FOUNDATION, AND PRESENT THEM AS FACTS. SALVATION has nothing whatsoever to do with Lord Yeshua's DEATH, nor his BURIAL, nor his RESURRECTION. Where did he ever say that It did? jiggaz: YOUR CHERRY-PICKING OF VERSES GENERATES USELESS MISAPPREHENSIONS THAT DOOM YOU TO DAMNATION! Whereas you are only aware of the few verses you want to twist to your hernia, it looks ridiculous to those who are aware of the entire three chapters of Lord Yeshua's SERMON ON THE MOUNT. Lord Yeshua was telling his Disciples what they needed to do in order to attain Ultimate Salvation. jiggaz: THAT IS A LIE BASED ON SICK OYINBO THEOLOGY, AND NOT WHAT LORD YESHUA SAID AT ALL. There was nothing in the entire Sermon, nor any of his latter Teachings, that said that his Followers had to believe that he was going to, or had DIED, been BURIED, or RESURRECTED in order to be Saved. If that requirement was so important, wouldn't he, the most important Prophet since Moses, have mentioned It? . JOHN 6:47. 47. "Verily, verily, I Say unto you, 'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME, HATH EVERLASTING LIFE.' " The only requirement for Salvation is to obey his actual Teachings- not someone's wicked interpretations of them. . b]JOHN 10:1-10.[/b] "Verily, verily, I Say unto you, 'HE THAT ENTERETH NOT BY THE DOOR INTO THE SHEEPFOLD, BUT CLIMBETH UP SOME OTHER WAY, THE SAME IS A THIEF AND A ROBBER.' 2. "But he that entereth in by The Door is The Shepherd of The Sheep. 3. "To him the porter openeth; and the Sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4. "And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers." 6. This Parable Spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he Spake unto them. 7. Then Said Jesus unto them again, "Verily, verily, I Say unto you, 'I AM THE DOOR OF THE SHEEP.' 8. "All that ever came before me are Thieves and Robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9. “I am The Door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be Saved, and shall go in and out, and find Pasture. 10. "The Thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have Life, and that they might have It more abundantly." LORD YESHUA IS THE DOOR, BECAUSE HE IS THE FIRST AND [i[ONLY ONE[/i] TO PREACH THE NARROW WAY TO LIFE. Adherence to the Teachings of THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT specifically, are necessary for Salvation. Anyone breaking any one of them has forfeited Salvation, and can never attain Salvation. .. MATTHEW 5:16-20. 16. "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your Good Works, and glorify your Father Which is in Heaven. 17. "Think not that I am come to destroy The Law, or The Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18. "For verily I Say unto you, 'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.' 19. "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least Commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called "THE LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN:" but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called "GREAT IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN." 20. "For I Say unto you, 'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES, YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' " jiggaz: LORD YESHUA DID NOT SAY THAT HEAVEN WAS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE DONE THE WILL OF THE FATHER. You again show your ignorance of The Gospel, and inability to perceive what is right in front of you. . ECCLESIASTES 8:2-5. 2. I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the Oath of God. 3. Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an Evil Thing; for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him. 4. Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, "WHAT DOEST THOU?" 5. Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment. A KINGDOM IS WHEREVER A KINGS WORD IS RECOGNIZED AS LAW. What, then, is The Kingdom of Heaven? .. MATTHEW 4:17. 17. From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, "Repent: for The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand." . MATTHEW 10:7. 7. And as ye go, preach, saying, 'THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND.' " The Kingdom of Heaven is wheresoever Heaven's Laws are enforced, and respected. HEAVEN IS CURRENTLY INFESTED WITH BEINGS WHO DO NOT DO THE WILL OF THE FATHER. Namely, Satan and his Angels. . LUKE 10:16-24. 16. "He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth Him that sent me." 17. And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, "Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us through thy Name." 18. And he Said unto them, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven. 19. "Behold, I give unto you Power to tread on Serpents and Scorpions, and over all the Power of the Enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." 20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your Names are written in Heaven." 21. In that Hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and Said, "I thank Thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and Earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed Good in Thy Sight. 22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who The Son is, but The Father; and Who The Father is, but The Son, and he to whom The Son will reveal him." 23. And he turned him unto his Disciples, and Said privately, "Blessed are the eyes which see The Things that ye see: 24. "For I Tell you, 'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS HAVE DESIRED TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE, AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM; AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR, AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' " WHENEVER THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT REVIVAL OF PEOPLE OF GOD DOING HIS WILL, AND NO LONGER THE DEVIL'S WILL, HE AND HIS ANGELS ARE CAST DOWN TO THE EARTH. Only if those Righteous people return to Sin can he be reinstated to the Seat of Authority he usurped from Man. If you keep The Law, Satan can no longer be a Heavenly Being to you. But until then, he has the Power to control your Weather, kill your Family, destroy your Crops and Cattle, and take away your Health. He can do all that, because he operates From Heaven. jiggaz: YOCHANNAN WAS A HYPOCRITE AND LIAR, BOASTING OF BEING SAVED, AND HAVING AUTHORITY TO DICTATE LAWS. He wrote more than everyone else in the Gospels, even the New Testament, about the importance of keeping Lord Yeshua's Commandments, yet he told us less than any other Gospel Writer what they were. This is like YACUB wrote- about the Hypocrite who PRAYED about Feeding and Clothing the Poor, without actually doing anything. jiggaz: . 1st SAMUEL 15:22-23. 22. And Samuel said, "Hath The LORD as great delight in Burnt Offerings and Sacrifices, as in obeying The Voice of the LORD? Behold, to Obey is better than Sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. 23. "For rebellion is as The Sin of Witchcraft, and stubbornness is as Iniquity and Idolatry. Because thou hast rejected The Word of The LORD, He hath also rejected thee from being king." THE SACRIFICE OF LORD YESHUA IS MEANINGLESS, IF THOSE WHO INVOKE IT DO NOT OBEY HIM. Get this straight: YOU HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD THIS, BECAUSE YOU DO NOT ABIDE IN LORD YESHUA'S TEACHINGS! You follow the made-up Doctrines of sinful men, who thought they could change The Gospel to anything they wanted. jiggaz: YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE WORKINGS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD. Lord Yeshua only recognizes those who keep his Commandments. Those who commit Sin, he knows nothing about. . EZEKIEL 18:20-32. 20. "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. 21. "But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all My Statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22. "All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. 23. "Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?" Saith The Lord GOD: "and not that he should return from his ways, and live? 24. "But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. 25. "Yet ye say, [b][]'THE WAY OF THE LORD IS NOT EQUAL.' Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? Are not your ways unequal? 26. "When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die. 27. "Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive. 28. "Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 29. "Yet saith The House of Israel, 'THE WAY OF THE LORD IS NOT EQUAL.' O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal? 30. "Therefore I will judge you, O House of Israel, every one according to his ways," saith the Lord GOD. "Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. 31. "Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O House of Israel? 32. "For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth," Saith The Lord GOD: "wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye." THEREFORE, AS FAR AS THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS CONCERNED, UNRIGHTEOUS PEOPLE WHO HAVE REPENTED ARE NO LONGER THAT PERSON, AND RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE WHO HAVE FALLEN INTO SIN ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON AS THE SINNER. As the Righteous person, who has repented of Past Sins, is totally divorced from that record, so too the Sinner who used to be Righteous is separated from that Record, too. That is the Basic Message of The Gospel. How can you be a Christian, and be ignorant of that Truth? |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by MuttleyLaff: 9:15am On Dec 06, 2019 |
petra1:petra1, the question kkins25 asked me didnt say anything about Jesus refering or not to those who are trying to tap and so there is no correlation between his question and your comment with that Matthew 12:26 verse |
Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by Finallydead: 11:54am On Dec 06, 2019 |
petra1:I'm not. Read my post on this thread of his where I attempt to explain the real meaning of that scripture and refute his misconception. It may give you an accurate perspective. |
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