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What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:11am On Aug 04, 2022
The quoted verse is one of the mostly referred in the scriptures as Jesus of Nazareth clearly stated that it's not those calling him Lord! Lord! that will inherit God's Kingdom. Though most religionists believe that God's kingdom is heaven even when we can all read in the Bible that Adam and Eve were created to live forever on planet earth! Genesis 1:26-28 compare to Psalms 115:16
Anyhow everyone agrees that if there is a God somewhere and He wants to reward the good the blessings will be pretty good.
So since Jesus (God's only begotten Son) said it's by doing God's will that humans can gain God's favour the most important question that should come to mind is:
What is God's will today?

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Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Templee333(m): 5:33am On Aug 04, 2022
Ah! You self never know till now? God's will is that ev'ryone should be saved & come 2 accurate knowledge of the truth.
Questn:who are the ones doing God's will?
Answr: Jehovah's wickedness.

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Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:54am On Aug 04, 2022
Templee333:
Ah! You self never know till now? God's will is that ev'ryone should be saved & come 2 accurate knowledge of the truth.
Questn:who are the ones doing God's will?
Answr: Jehovah's wickedness.
Thanks for your time.
Shalom!

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Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:20am On Aug 04, 2022
Will connotes intention or desire, therefore a person writes a Will so that whether he/she is alive or dead all those close to him/her may carry on with what he/she intended/desires.
For instance, during the time God created Adam and Eve His will for the first human pair is to:
[1] Multiply and become many.
[2] Fill the earth with their offsprings.
[3] Subdue the earth, use it to the full.
[4] Take charge of all the lives on the planet.
Genesis 1:26-28
During Noah's day God's Will for humans is to enter into the Ark with faith that He (God) will deal with the giant bullies disrupting the peace on earth. Genesis 6:18
During the time of Lot God's Will is for faithful people to leave Sodom and Gomorrah for their safety! Genesis 19:12-14
During the time of Moses God's Will is for the Israelites to go and settle down in Canaan so that they can start pure worship there! Exodus 5:1 compare to Genesis 11:31
Today we can all read what Jesus said people need to do in line with God's Will because in each generation all those that fail to join in doing God's Will were either ignore for not participating or destroyed for standing in the way of faithful servants of God who are doing it.
So it's vital we know What is God's Will today? Matthew 7:21-23 smiley

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Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:10pm On Aug 04, 2022
Jesus said:
“My food is to do the Will of him who sent me and to finish his work" John 4:34

So according to Jesus God's Will has to do with an assigned WORK! smiley

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Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Janosky: 9:25pm On Aug 04, 2022
Templee333:
Ah! You self never know till now? God's will is that ev'ryone should be saved & come 2 accurate knowledge of the truth.
Questn:who are the ones doing God's will?
Answr: Jehovah's wickedness.

Psalm 117
American Standard Version
A psalm of praise.
117
" Oh praise Jehovah, all ye nations;
Laud him, all ye peoples.
2 For his lovingkindness is great toward us"


The holy Bible PROVEN he's LYING.


That's how T333 is as well as his cohorts- liars
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by zealander10: 9:29pm On Aug 04, 2022
As a Christian, I always base my answers on God’s Word. At John 6:40, Jesus said, “For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who recognizes the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day.”

Recognizing God’s Son i.e. Jesus, goes beyond being acquainted with his name and believing that he exists. John 3:36 and John 15:10 links exercising faith (believing) in Jesus to obedience to his commandments.

So there we have it. Doing God’s will simply means exercising faith in his Son, Jesus, which is done by obeying his commandments. And like John 6:40 says, we will be rewarded with everlasting life.

There are many commandments of Jesus Christ found in the Greek Scriptures (or what is commonly referred to as the New Testament) but the one of such that Christians obey is the command to preach and teach the good news of God’s Kingdom (Matthew 24:14; 28:19-20) And this work is currently being accomplished in over 239 lands across the globe with the aid of God’s holy spirit. Acts 1:8

And I agree, it is very important to know what this will is because otherwise one cannot act on what he doesn’t know. Invariably, Romans 10:14 says that how will people know what God’s will is if someone doesn’t preach to them ? Moreso, knowing and doing God’s will is vital for salvation. In fact, 1John 2:17 says that only the ones who do God’s will are going to survive the end of the world and enter into God’s Kingdom.

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Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Templee333(m): 9:37pm On Aug 04, 2022
Janosky:


Psalm 117
American Standard Version
A psalm of praise.
117
" Oh praise Jehovah, all ye nations;
Laud him, all ye peoples.
2 For his lovingkindness is great toward us"


The holy Bible PROVEN he's LYING.


That's how T333 is as well as his cohorts- liars[/b]
the Jehovah in psalm is diff frm ur own. Ur Jehvh are 8men in Warwick. Incase u'v 4goten

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Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:37pm On Aug 04, 2022
Janosky:

Psalm 117
American Standard Version
A psalm of praise.
117
" Oh praise Jehovah, all ye nations;
Laud him, all ye peoples.
2 For his lovingkindness is great toward us"

The holy Bible PROVEN he's LYING.
That's how T333 is as well as his cohorts- liars[/b]
I have ignored that nuisance it's obvious he came back from hiding after sometimes, he's one of those critics that's been beaten hands down through sound debate. So he changed identity only to come and malign God's people! wink
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:40pm On Aug 04, 2022
zealander10:
As a Christian, I always base my answers on God’s Word. At John 6:40, Jesus said, “For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who recognizes the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day.”

Recognizing God’s Son i.e. Jesus, goes beyond being acquainted with his name and believing that he exists. John 3:36 and John 15:10 links exercising faith (believing) in Jesus to obedience to his commandments.

So there we have it. Doing God’s will simply means exercising faith in his Son, Jesus, which is done by obeying his commandments. And like John 6:40 says, we will be rewarded with everlasting life.

There are many commandments of Jesus Christ found in the Greek Scriptures (or what is commonly referred to as the New Testament) but the one of such that Christians obey is the command to preach and teach the good news of God’s Kingdom (Matthew 24:14; 28:19-20) And this work is currently being accomplished in over 239 lands across the globe with the aid of God’s holy spirit. Acts 1:8

And I agree, it is very important to know what this will is because otherwise one cannot act on what he doesn’t know. Invariably, Romans 10:14 says that how will people know what God’s will is if someone doesn’t preach to them ? Moreso, knowing and doing God’s will is vital for salvation. In fact, 1John 2:17 says that only the ones who do God’s will are going to survive the end of the world and enter into God’s Kingdom.
Apt! smiley
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by VenumX: 10:13pm On Sep 13, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Apt! smiley

Ash@wo homo.. grin
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:22am On Sep 14, 2022
VenumX:

Ash@wo homo.. grin
cheesy
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 6:27pm On Sep 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
The quoted verse is one of the mostly referred in the scriptures as Jesus of Nazareth clearly stated that it's not those calling him Lord! Lord! that will inherit God's Kingdom. Though most religionists believe that God's kingdom is heaven even when we can all read in the Bible that Adam and Eve were created to live forever on planet earth! Genesis 1:26-28 compare to Psalms 115:16
Anyhow everyone agrees that if there is a God somewhere and He wants to reward the good the blessings will be pretty good.
So since Jesus (God's only begotten Son) said it's by doing God's will that humans can gain God's favour the most important question that should come to mind is:
What is God's will today?

1. Sir, what is God's Will.

2. What is the Kingdom of God.


cornelboy
Daniel 2;44 and Isaiah 9:6

Please let us see what Daniel 2:44 says about the coming Kingdom of God.
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 7:57pm On Sep 23, 2022
Lukuluku69:


1. Sir, what is God's Will.

2. What is the Kingdom of God.


cornelboy
Daniel 2;44 and Isaiah 9:6

Please let us see what Daniel 2:44 says about the coming Kingdom of God.

cornelboy
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:04pm On Sep 23, 2022
Lukuluku69:

1. Sir, what is God's Will.
2. What is the Kingdom of God.
cornelboy
Daniel 2;44 and Isaiah 9:6
Please let us see what Daniel 2:44 says about the coming Kingdom of God.

“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever"

God's Kingdom will not be enforced by humans who can't see beyond their noses rather it's angels that's going to enforce the laws in God's Kingdom. John 18:36
So by the time God's Kingdom is about to overthrow all the kings of the earth Jesus will lead the angels {Matthew 16:27 compare to Revelations 19:14} to kill all those who failed to be on his side! Luke 19:27

God's kingdom is a heavenly government headed by Christ, it will see to it that all evildoers are exterminated from the earth {Psalms 37:7-11; Proverbs 2:20-22} and restore perfect health to all the inhabitants of the earth! Isaiah 33:24

All animals will eat straw {Isaiah 11:6-9} all infirmities will be cured {Isaiah 35:5-6} as for death God will remove it forever! Isaiah 25:8

That is few of the promises of God regarding the government we are campaigning for! Matthew 24:14

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Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 9:17pm On Sep 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever"

God's Kingdom will not be enforced by humans who can't see beyond their noses rather it's angels that's going to enforce the laws in God's Kingdom. John 18:36
So by the time God's Kingdom is about to overthrow all the kings of the earth Jesus will lead the angels {Matthew 16:27 compare to Revelations 19:14} to kill all those who failed to be on his side! Luke 19:27

God's kingdom is a heavenly government headed by Christ, it will see to it that all evildoers are exterminated from the earth {Psalms 37:7-11; Proverbs 2:20-22} and restore perfect health to all the inhabitants of the earth! Isaiah 33:24

All animals will eat straw {Isaiah 11:6-9} all infirmities will be cured {Isaiah 35:5-6} as for death God will remove it forever! Isaiah 25:8

That is few of the promises of God regarding the government we are campaigning for! Matthew 24:14


Let us start froma the Book of Daniel. The coming Kingdom of God was shown in a dream to a Babylonian King namwly Nebuchadnezzar who in turn could not decipher what it was or meant.

As the Super power of that time, he gather people (wise men) from Nations he has conquered and ask for his dream interpretation and non could do so. Until Daniel name was mentioned to a certain Captain of the Babylonia.

Long story short, Daniel gave the interpretations after having asked for time and praying to God for that.

Now, what is to note is that this coming Kingdom does not rest solely on Daniel 2:44! In fact that same vision was shown Daniel and an Angel gave it's interpretations in Daniel 7.

So, Mr. Jehovah witness there is going to be a lot of back and forth and not your usual way of taking just a verse and running with

Four Kingdoms were described as percussor to that Kingdom that God himself will established.

1. What are these Kingdoms?
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by cornelboy(f): 9:22pm On Sep 23, 2022
Lukuluku69:

cornelboy
Please let us see what Daniel 2:44 says about the coming Kingdom of God.

1. Sir, what is God's Will.
Gods ultimate will is to restore the earth to what he wanted it to be initially.

2. What is the Kingdom of God.
God's kingdom is the means through which he would restore the earth.
The kingdom will be led by Jesus and the 144000 co rulers. Isaiah 9:6
The kingdom will first destroy every kind of government when it comes to earth.
Daniel 2;44
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:41pm On Sep 23, 2022
Lukuluku69:


Let us start froma the Book of Daniel. The coming Kingdom of God was shown in a dream to a Babylonian King namwly Nebuchadnezzar who in turn could not decipher what it was or meant.

As the Super power of that time, he gather people (wise men) from Nations he has conquered and ask for his dream interpretation and non could do so. Until Daniel name was mentioned to a certain Captain of the Babylonia.

Long story short, Daniel gave the interpretations after having asked for time and praying to God for that.

Now, what is to note is that this coming Kingdom does not rest solely on Daniel 2:44! In fact that same vision was shown Daniel and an Angel gave it's interpretations in Daniel 7.

So, Mr. Jehovah witness there is going to be a lot of back and forth and not your usual way of taking just a verse and running with

Four Kingdoms were described as percussor to that Kingdom that God himself will established.

1. What are these Kingdoms?


Nebuchadnezzar's dream has something to do with God's kingdom but it's not God that established both Nebuchadnezzar and the other four kingdoms that follows it, that's why Daniel says God's own kingdom will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms (five kingdoms in Nebuchadnezzar's dream) Daniel 2:44

This is what Nebuchadnezzar's dream means!

After the fall of Egypt and Assyria (Iran) Babylon became the world power but why did the dream begin with Babylon and not the first two?
Well it's because Egypt and Assyria didn't merge religion with their political system they stand alone on politics. Babylon under the rule of Nebuchadnezzar was the first nation to merge politics with religion by building a statue and ordering all members of his cabinet to worship it and if you're willing to know that's how National Anthem start! Daniel 3:1-5

You will notice that the national flag will be raised high above everyone and people of all nations salute this thing throughout the earth.

Right from Nebuchadnezzar's reign all other kingdoms after him took it up and from Babylon till today the world has know only five governments:
Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and Anglo-America it's the Anglo-American world power that introduced DEMOCRACY which is government of the people by the people and for the people.
That's why the foot of that image in Nebuchadnezzar's dream was partly iron and partly clay. The rulers will be compelled to do what the people say since the people are the voters and they can make protests dragging authority with those ruling over them. This is unlike Nebuchadnezzar's government that doesn't need any voters neither can any form of protest change whatever he says.
That's why his kingdom was symbolized as GOLD but the last world power was seen as partly iron and partly clay. The kingdoms that came after Nebuchadnezzar's kingdom keep decreasing in their strength that's why the quality was diminishing!
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 9:50pm On Sep 23, 2022
cornelboy:



Gods ultimate will is to restore the earth to what he wanted it to be initially.


God's kingdom is the means through which he would restore the earth.
The kingdom will be led by Jesus and the 144000 co rulers. Isaiah 9:6
The kingdom will first destroy every kind of government when it comes to earth.
Daniel 2;44


The above is the position of JW but what is the position of Daniel and the Angel who gave Daniel the interpretations to the vision of Nebuchadnezzar and Daniel himself ( Daniel had a similar vision as stated in Daniel 7)

You see to locate or properly identified that coming Kingdom of God, you need to stop posting Daniel 2:44! Do you know why? It is just a verse out 45 other verses in Daniel Chapter 2!

But the gist of the matter is 4 distinct Kingdoms were mentioned/described in Nebuchadnezzar and Daniel vision.

Can you identify them? Let me help us.

They are Babylonia, Persia, Grecian and the Roman Empires.

The vision says all these Kingdoms will be destroyed and their remnants given to the saints of the Most High.

Which Kingdom ended Babylonia? The Persians. Remember MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.?
-- Daniel 5:25
That was Persia taking out Babylonia forever!

Who took out the Persians and the Grecian Empires?

Persia were taken out and we're CONSUME. Exactly as the vision says in Daniel 7.

Grecian? Go to present day Turkey and learn about the conquest of that Land by who?
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 10:01pm On Sep 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Nebuchadnezzar's dream has something to do with God's kingdom but it's not God that established both Nebuchadnezzar and the other four kingdoms that follows it, that's why Daniel says God's own kingdom will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms (five kingdoms in Nebuchadnezzar's dream) Daniel 2:44

This is what Nebuchadnezzar's dream means!

After the fall of Egypt and Assyria (Iran) Babylon became the world power but why did the dream begin with Babylon and not the first two?
Well it's because Egypt and Assyria didn't merge religion with their political system they stand alone on politics. Babylon under the rule of Nebuchadnezzar was the first nation to merge politics with religion by building a statue and ordering all members of his cabinet to worship it and if you're willing to know that's how National Anthem start! Daniel 3:1-5

You will notice that the national flag will be raised high above everyone and people of all nations salute this thing throughout the earth.

Right from Nebuchadnezzar's reign all other kingdoms after him took it up and from Babylon till today the world has know only five governments:
Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and Anglo-America it's the Anglo-American world power that introduced DEMOCRACY which is government of the people by the people and for the people.
That's why the foot of that image in Nebuchadnezzar's dream was partly iron and partly clay. The rulers will be compelled to do what the people say since the people are the voters and they can make protests dragging authority with those ruling over them. This is unlike Nebuchadnezzar's government that doesn't need any voters neither can any form of protest change whatever he says.
That's why his kingdom was symbolized as GOLD but the last world power was seen as partly iron and partly clay. The kingdoms that came after Nebuchadnezzar's kingdom keep decreasing in their strength that's why the quality was diminishing!

Baba calm down. Don't sneak Anglo- American into this abeg. Four distinct Kingdoms were mentioned in Daniel's vision as well as Nebuchadnezzar vision and not Five.

Let me retariate again, the vision says FOUR WINDS and Not FIVE WINDS. The Four winds represents Earthly kingdoms starting from Nebuchadnezzar's Babylonia to be followed by Persia, then Grecian and the formidable Roman Empire. That's what the vision says. You can use any version of the Bible and you will still get the same: FOUR WINDS.

History tells us Persia took out Babylonia, the Arabs took out the Persians Kingdom converted them to Muslims as stated in the vision of Daniel( being consumed and given the heart of man) while the Greeks were conquered by the Muslims Turks leaving the Romans which was wounded but still alive.

The Romans'time is coming........
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:29pm On Sep 23, 2022
Lukuluku69:


Baba calm down. Don't sneak Anglo- American into this abeg. Four distinct Kingdoms were mentioned in Daniel's vision as well as Nebuchadnezzar vision and not Five.

Let me retariate again, the vision says FOUR WINDS and Not FIVE WINDS. The Four winds represents Earthly kingdoms starting from Nebuchadnezzar's Babylonia to be followed by Persia, then Grecian and the formidable Roman Empire. That's what the vision says. You can use any version of the Bible and you will still get the same: FOUR WINDS.

History tells us Persia took out Babylonia, the Arabs took out the Persians Kingdom converted them to Muslims as stated in the vision of Daniel( being consumed and given the heart of man) while the Greeks were conquered by the Muslims Turks leaving the Romans which was wounded but still alive.

The Romans'time is coming........

It's somehow difficult to settle this because i can see that you're coming from the interpretation of our Arabian clerics but i from JWs so lets leave the matter since we can't agree. According to Revelations 17:10 the world powers are seven in number:
Egypt
Assyria
Babylon
Persia
Greece
Rome
Anglo-America
In Nebuchadnezzar's dream it was:
Gold ~ Babylon
Silver ~ Persia
Copper ~ Greece
Iron ~ Rome
Iron&Clay ~ Anglo-America

God's Kingdom has lots of goodies for obedient mankind that's what we are preaching for anyone who wants to know! smiley
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by cornelboy(f): 10:43pm On Sep 23, 2022
Lukuluku69:

The above is the position of JW but what is the position of Daniel and the Angel who gave Daniel the interpretations to the vision of Nebuchadnezzar and Daniel himself ( Daniel had a similar vision as stated in Daniel 7)
You see to locate or properly identified that coming Kingdom of God, you need to stop posting Daniel 2:44! Do you know why? It is just a verse out 45 other verses in Daniel Chapter 2!
But the gist of the matter is 4 distinct Kingdoms were mentioned/described in Nebuchadnezzar and Daniel vision.
Can you identify them? Let me help us.
They are Babylonia, Persia, Grecian and the Roman Empires.
The vision says all these Kingdoms will be destroyed and their remnants given to the saints of the Most High.
Which Kingdom ended Babylonia? The Persians. Remember MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.?
-- Daniel 5:25
That was Persia taking out Babylonia forever!
Who took out the Persians and the Grecian Empires?
Persia were taken out and we're CONSUME. Exactly as the vision says in Daniel 7.
Grecian? Go to present day Turkey and learn about the conquest of that Land by who?
Seems you've already figured everything out.
Gods kingdom is not Islam or any human government for that matter.
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 10:56pm On Sep 23, 2022
cornelboy:

Seems you've already figured everything out.
Gods kingdom is not Islam or any human government for that matter.


In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. The FOUR WINDS. Namely Babylonia, Persia, Grecian and the Romans
And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. THIS VERSE TELLS ABOUT THEIR EMERGENCE. NOTE THEY ARE FOUR AND NOT FIVE AS STATED BY YOU.
The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. THIS REPRESENTS BABYLONIA. THEIR NATIONAL SYMBOL IS A WINGED LION. A MAN HEART BEING GIVEN SIGNIFY NEBUCHADNEZZAR ACCEPTANCE OF THE GOD THAT INSPIRES HEBREW PROPHETS.
And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. ANOTHER BEAST. (2) THIS IS PERSIA. THREE RIBS IN ITS MOUTH SIGNIFIES THE REACH OF ITS POWER FROM ASIA, AFRICA AND EUROPE.
-- Daniel 7:1-5
KJV Holy
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:04pm On Sep 23, 2022
cornelboy:

Seems you've already figured everything out.
Gods kingdom is not Islam or any human government for that matter.

That is what we were all taught from childhood as Muslims but when i met the JWs i began having a change of heart.
WHY?
Of all the religions in this world the two most related are JWs and Islam because both cares for their fellow believers.
But there is something that was disturbing me back then in Islam.
Whenever Muslims are persecuted or killed anywhere we feel really bad as our brothers in faith are unjustly treated, this same thing goes with JWs. But then Muslims will be planning to revenge while JWs won't!
The most terrifying of it all is the confusion in Islam as Muslim groups do kill Muslim groups and that's the time our people will find excuses to brush it aside since it's not some other religions that killed Muslims but had it been it's some who aren't Muslims that did such a thing that's when you will hear Muslims calling for revenge throughout the world! embarassed

As for JWs they will also feel really bad whenever their fellow believers are persecuted in any place but they will never think of revenge neither can you hear of JW group fighting against anyone JW group!


That's when i realized that Islam is just a deceit if truly there's a God in our midst we supposed to settle our differences amicably using the words of our Allah not killing our fellow Muslims but thinking of revenue if such comes from another group! undecided

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Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 11:08pm On Sep 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


It's somehow difficult to settle this because i can see that you're coming from the interpretation of our Arabian clerics but i from JWs so lets leave the matter since we can't agree. According to Revelations 17:10 the world powers are seven in number:
Egypt
Assyria
Babylon
Persia
Greece
Rome
Anglo-America
In Nebuchadnezzar's dream it was:
Gold ~ Babylon
Silver ~ Persia
Copper ~ Greece
Iron ~ Rome
Iron&Clay ~ Anglo-America

God's Kingdom has lots of goodies for obedient mankind that's what we are preaching for anyone who wants to know! smiley

Oga, it was Four Winds and not FIVE as taught by your Organization.

Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. The FOUR WINDS. Namely Babylonia, Persia, Grecian and the Romans

Egypt was never mention nor referenced in Daniel's Vision. There is no difficulty in settling this. We can't add nor remove from what Daniel saw. Daniel said he saw FOUR WINDS. Since we are referencing Daniel I will go with him.

Of you care to read rather than just quote a verse it is said that these WINDS represents Kingdoms starting from Babylonia and that these Kingdoms will come after each other.

Read small Ancient history and you will find that Babylonia, Mede- Persians, Grecian and Roman Empires came in that other.

It is alos said that they will fight battles amongst themselves. Did the Babylonians fought your Anglo-American? Lol

That is what your egg heads teaches but not what the Bible says. So you see that I was right when I told you that you follow your elders more than what God says.

I still got more o.
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 11:18pm On Sep 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


That is what we were all taught from childhood as Muslims but when i met the JWs i began having a change of heart.
WHY?
Of all the religions in this world the two most related are JWs and Islam because both cares for their fellow believers.
But there is something that was disturbing me back then in Islam.
Whenever Muslims are persecuted or killed anywhere we feel really bad as our brothers in faith are unjustly treated, this same thing goes with JWs. But then Muslims will be planning to revenge while JWs won't!
The most terrifying of it all is the confusion in Islam as Muslim groups do kill Muslim groups and that's the time our people will find excuses to brush it aside since it's not some other religions that killed Muslims but had it been it's some who aren't Muslims that did such a thing that's when you will hear Muslims calling for revenge throughout the world! embarassed

As for JWs they will also feel really bad whenever their fellow believers are persecuted in any place but they will never think of revenge neither can you hear of JW group fighting against anyone JW group!


That's when i realized that Islam is just a deceit if truly there's a God in our midst we supposed to settle our differences amicably using the words of our Allah not killing our fellow Muslims but thinking of revenue if such comes from another group! undecided

You can't disprove what I posted and the only thing to do is to go to your already prepared template and yarn about being a Muslim.

Well tell you what, there were differences between Jesus and the Jewish heirachy back in the days, was it settled by the word of God the Jews have been carrying for Centuries? Was it?

The Kingdom of God that will be establiahes to deal with the Fire worshipping Persians, the straying Greeks Trinitarians as well as the their Roman cousins is no other than the Kingdom set up by The Arabian Prophet.

In less than 30 years, the Fire Worshippers land was cleansed and hearts of men were given to fire Worshippers while the straying Trinitarians Greeks were baniahed from Abraham's Land.

Oga I don tell you that I can wean you or the damage done to you by JW.
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:20pm On Sep 23, 2022
Lukuluku69:


Oga, it was Four Winds and not FIVE as taught by your Organization.

Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. The FOUR WINDS. Namely Babylonia, Persia, Grecian and the Romans

Egypt was never mention nor referenced in Daniel's Vision. There is no difficulty in settling this. We can't add nor remove from what Daniel saw. Daniel said he saw FOUR WINDS. Since we are referencing Daniel I will go with him.

Of you care to read rather than just quote a verse it is said that these WINDS represents Kingdoms starting from Babylonia and that these Kingdoms will come after each other.

Read small Ancient history and you will find that Babylonia, Mede- Persians, Grecian and Roman Empires came in that other.

It is alos said that they will fight battles amongst themselves. Did the Babylonians fought your Anglo-American? Lol

That is what your egg heads teaches but not what the Bible says. So you see that I was right when I told you that you follow your elders more than what God says.

I still got more o.
It's still the same thing but in another vision this time to Daniel!

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Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 11:22pm On Sep 23, 2022
cornelboy:

Seems you've already figured everything out.
Gods kingdom is not Islam or any human government for that matter.


In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. The FOUR WINDS. Namely Babylonia, Persia, Grecian and the Romans
And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. THIS VERSE TELLS ABOUT THEIR EMERGENCE. NOTE THEY ARE FOUR AND NOT FIVE AS STATED BY YOU.
The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. THIS REPRESENTS BABYLONIA. THEIR NATIONAL SYMBOL IS A WINGED LION. A MAN HEART BEING GIVEN SIGNIFY NEBUCHADNEZZAR ACCEPTANCE OF THE GOD THAT INSPIRES HEBREW PROPHETS.
And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. ANOTHER BEAST. (2) THIS IS PERSIA. THREE RIBS IN ITS MOUTH SIGNIFIES THE REACH OF ITS POWER FROM ASIA, AFRICA AND EUROPE.
-- Daniel 7:1-5
KJV Holy Bible
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:22pm On Sep 23, 2022
Lukuluku69:


You can't disprove what I posted and the only thing to do is to go to your already prepared template and yarn about being a Muslim.

Well tell you what, there were differences between Jesus and the Jewish heirachy back in the days, was it settled by the word of God the Jews have been carrying for Centuries? Was it?

The Kingdom of God that will be establiahes to deal with the Fire worshipping Persians, the straying Greeks Trinitarians as well as the their Roman cousins is no other than the Kingdom set up by The Arabian Prophet.

In less than 30 years, the Fire Worshippers land was cleansed and hearts of men were given to fire Worshippers while the straying Trinitarians Greeks were baniahed from Abraham's Land.

Oga I don tell you that I can wean you or the damage done to you by JW.

So Muhammad set up Islam as God's kingdom shey?
But he was killed nah! smiley

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Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 11:23pm On Sep 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

It's still the same thing but in another vision this time to Daniel!

Oya post that vision of Daniel with FIVE WINDS. I will wait....
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 11:26pm On Sep 23, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


So Muhammad set up Islam as God's kingdom shey?
But he was killed nah! smiley

Read again or you want me to post that one too?

The Kingdoms will be given to his "saints" meaning his COMPANIONS.

It was his COMPANIONS that fought and CONSUMED PERSIA. They were the ones who beats the Greeks and sent them flying from Abraham's heritage not the Jews, not the Christians. Prophet Muhammad's Companion.
Re: What Is God's Will Today? Matthew 7:21-23 by Lukuluku69(m): 11:29pm On Sep 23, 2022
cornelboy:

Seems you've already figured everything out.
Gods kingdom is not Islam or any human government for that matter.



After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. ANOTHER LIKE A LEOPARD (3) THIS IS THE GRECIAN EMPIRE. FOUR HEADS SIGNIFIES THE BREAKING OF THAT KINGSOM INTO FOUR AFTER ALEXANDER THE GREAT DIED AND HIS GENERALS DIVIDED HIS EMPIRE. DOMINION GIVEN TO IT MEANS IT WILL CONQUER MUCH.
After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. THIS IS THE ROMAN EMPIRE (4) IT WAS DIVERSE FROM THE REST BECAUSE IT CLAIMED TO WORSHIP GOD THRU A TRINITY AND IT PROCLAIMED A STATE RELIGION. TEN HORNS MEANS THE TEN EMPERORS THAT PERSECUTED EARLY UNITARIAN CHRISTIANS
I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. THE LITTLE HORN IS THAT ROMAN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE WHO KILLED THREE OTHER PRETENDERS TI THE THRONE. EYES LIKE THAT OF MAN....HIS PROCLAMATION OF A STATE RELIGION IS A FALSE ONE AND MOUTH SPEAKING GREAT THINGS SIMPLY REFERS TI THE TRINITARIAN CREED AS STATED IN THE NICENE CREED THAT WAS CONVOKED BY CONSTANTINE
-- Daniel 7:6-8
KJV Holy Bible

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