miketayo:


Hahaha.. this isn't wat vitiligo looks like.. he is obviously not the biological father.. and Janet isn't white

lexy2014:


U said MJs kids are pure white characteristic of which they have Caucasian hair& all this while, u have been saying they have vitiligo. What's d correlation? In one of ur posts, u mentioned that Michael's genes are weak yet u believe they are strong enough 2 produce vitiligo in his kids. How? I have vitiligo. My parents & grandparents don't have it& so too their parents b4 them. So when u tell me am arguing "ignorantly", I just wonder what makes u think u are an expert. Maybe cos this a faceless forum, some of u say things out of arrogance but without d slightest idea about who u are talking to

amliftedhigher:

But their mother is alife why can't she come to the aid of her children

ChristoBam:

The fact that you have viltigo and your parents doesn't, means nothing. I'm not saying its always hereditary. What I said is that people whose parents have viltigo have an increased chance of having it than an average person. More than 5 times more likely. You can make your research.
And Michael's genes are weak doesn't mean his kids wouldn't see something to get from him in looks

ChristoBam:

And Michael's genes are weak doesn't mean his kids wouldn't see something to get from him in looks

ChristoBam:

I don't understand, did I post any pictures of Michael Jackson kids with viltigo on them??
Just go Google Search " Michael Jackson kids have viltigo" and see the pictures it brings out . You'll see Prince Jackson with clear viltigo . It's obvious when he's not wearing a shirt.

Richdad50:


A weak father who raised weak children. A low self esteem father who raised low self esteem children. A drug addiction father who raised drug addiction children. A sexual molester who raised emotionally molested children.

We are fractions of our fathers and our seeds are products of our deeds. Your children are often a reflection of your life lived. If a father eats a sour grape, the teeth of his children are set on edge; a mystery.

A true father softens the ground of life for his children by living a righteous life while he deals with his own foundation.

When God talked about godly seeds, he was referring to children without the rope of foundational sins hanging on their neck. It was the desire of God to raise children from parents who are righteous.

Richdad

Richdad50:


A weak father who raised weak children. A low self esteem father who raised low self esteem children. A drug addiction father who raised drug addiction children. A sexual molester who raised emotionally molested children.

We are fractions of our fathers and our seeds are products of our deeds. Your children are often a reflection of your life lived. If a father eats a sour grape, the teeth of his children are set on edge; a mystery.

A true father softens the ground of life for his children by living a righteous life while he deals with his own foundation.

When God talked about godly seeds, he was referring to children without the rope of foundational sins hanging on their neck. It was the desire of God to raise children from parents who are righteous.

Richdad

SamuelAnyawu:
Marry Me dear and I'll make you happy till the end of time.


But my Idoma Fiancee is Prettier shaaaa

Richdad50:


A weak father who raised weak children. A low self esteem father who raised low self esteem children. A drug addiction father who raised drug addiction children. A sexual molester who raised emotionally molested children.

We are fractions of our fathers and our seeds are products of our deeds. Your children are often a reflection of your life lived. If a father eats a sour grape, the teeth of his children are set on edge; a mystery.

A true father softens the ground of life for his children by living a righteous life while he deals with his own foundation.

When God talked about godly seeds, he was referring to children without the rope of foundational sins hanging on their neck. It was the desire of God to raise children from parents who are righteous.

Richdad

caye:


Life has a way of testing our resolve
He who puts on his bullet proof vest should not boast like he who puts off his own
Your resolve will be tested one day
Hope you'll be strong to face the whirlwind?
Boaster.

ChristoBam:

I don't understand, did I post any pictures of Michael Jackson kids with viltigo on them??
Just go Google Search " Michael Jackson kids have viltigo" and see the pictures it brings out . You'll see Prince Jackson with clear viltigo . It's obvious when he's not wearing a shirt.

caye:


Life has a way of testing our resolve
He who puts on his bullet proof vest should not boast like he who puts off his own
Your resolve will be tested one day
Hope you'll be strong to face the whirlwind?
Boaster.

miketayo:


I guess vitiligo makes blacks turn Caucasians with odd eye colours too. Plus the last kid looks indian. They aren't his biological kids

delugajackson:
Earlier today, we were hit by the story of a woman who hung herself after being rescued from committing suicide. The people who rescued her never thought of taking precautionary measures to forestall any future occurence. And worsestill she never opened up about her struggles with depression, so the suffering continued within.

Now this is what developed countries do. They place you on suicide watch, counsel you until they're sure that you've gained back your sanity, self-worth and dignity. But over here, the case is different. Every suicide attempt is a success. If you tried and failed the first time don't fret, the second attempt is a sure-banker. In Nigeria, people don't care about what others are passing through and the people going through these terrible situations keep their feelings bottled-up cause nobody really cares to listen. It's a crazy mindset that we all need to change. May God give us the strength to face our challenges and overcome the struggles of life.

lexy2014:


Funny enough, u have consistently spelt vitiligo wrongly. I thought u said am ignorant& hence u asked me if I knew anyone who has vitiligo maybe as a qualification 4 me discussing d issue. Now that I mentioned that I have it& my forebears don't, u are now saying it doesn't mean anything. Isn't it convenient that it doesn't mean anything cos my experience doesn't conform to ur perspective?



Since this is d case and u have mentioned "looks", then d kids should have had "something" which obviously they don't. Maybe vitiligo is d only "something" they got from him

ChristoBam:

Seriously, arguing with you is frustrating. I never said anything close to what you're saying up there. I asked you "how many people do you know with vitiligo", I was trying to explain to you that it's rare. I don't care if you have it or not..
And I don't know when knowing how to spell something correctly correlates with good knowledge about it. Before now you didn't know having parents with vitilgo increases your chances of getting it. It's one of the things you should know as someone with vitilgo.. I don't know anything about vitilgo but I know it *can* be hereditary. Which is one of the reasons this argument started in the first place.

ChristoBam:

And Michael's genes are weak doesn't mean his kids wouldn't see something to get from him in looks

lexy2014:


This is ur question:"how many people do you know with vitiligo?" I no myself or am I not somebody? Y is that a problem 4u? From my experience, it conflicts what u are saying. Now u don't care since I have it but earlier u cared when u overshot ur runway by calling me ignorant. Obviously, u no more than I do about it.

Ur knowing that people can inherit vitiligo seems 2b an achievement 4u& u think I should c it as an achievement also. D question is, how does knowing that vitiligo is hereditary restore my skin colour?

If I didn't get vitiligo from my parents, it is also possible that a whole lot of people who have it didn't get it from their parents either. So just because I didn't get mine from my parents which doesn't support ur argument, then as far as u are concerned, "it doesnt mean anything".

D discussion wasnt about vitiligo. Its a contention about d paternity of Paris Jackson cos of her appearance. And u said that they (MJs kids) have vitiligo because their dad had it which automatically settles d issue of their paternity. And its not even "they", its just one of them who is said 2 have it. D lady who attempted suicide doesn't have it. Since she doesn't have it, does ur theory that Paris Jackson is MJs daughter cos of vitiligo still hold water? Like u noted earlier


Apart from vitiligo that u have been promoting as proof of paternity, what are d "something" that MJs children got from his looks?

ChristoBam:

Why are you guys misquoting me, I never said it's the reason they look Caucasian. I said it should be considered as proof they are Michael's biological children.

ChristoBam:

I don't know what I said that got you so emotional about your having vitilgo. All these things you're saying is your emotions talking, you're not being rational. Firstly I said the fact his kids have vitilgo can be taken as a proof they are his kids, you said it's not in anyway hereditary and I told you you're wrong. You must have researched it now and seen it can truly be hereditary so I don't understand why you're twisting the narrative, talking about me taking it as an achievement.
Very few people have vitilgo, it's an extremely rare skin condition. Michael Jackson has it, and his having it makes him one of the very few people with it. Then Prince Jackson has it as well. Please tell me what are the odds knowing fully well it can be hereditary? You know the answer to this but you just need to have the last say on this. That's your problem.. That was what I was trying to tell you when I said " How many people do you know with vitilgo? " I'm trying to explain that it's very rare.. I really don't care if you have vitilgo, why should I?
And as for only one of his kids having vitilgo. I read it a long time ago when I was researching about this thing that an insider said they both have vitilgo but there's only a physical proof on internet of prince Jackson having the condition. But the thing is Michael has 3 kids Prince, Paris and Blacket.. No one contends that blacket is his kid cuz he looks exactly like Michael.. Prince Jackson and Paris Jackson are the ones you guys talk about cuz they are pure white. Prince Jackson is as white as Paris Jackson, they both look Caucasian. So if having vitilgo proves Prince is Michael's son, no one should be contending that of Paris then.

lexy2014:


What is wrong if I want 2 have d last say? Don't u want 2 have d last say? Is that not ur emotion speaking? Is there any rationality in complaining about whether I like 2 have d last say? U seem 2 like 2 shift d attention from urself when u are drifting. So am not surprised at u using d emotional card.

There's nowhere I told u that vitiligo isn't hereditary. Therefore, there's nowhere u told me I was wrong. I asked u simple questions, is vitiligo hereditary? Does it cause a person 2b all white? Does it cause a person 2 have Caucasian hair? Instead of a simple yes or no& explaining ur point, u started going personal. So u have been on d emotional journey even b4 d conversation proper started.

U don't need 2 care if I have vitiligo & I don't care if u care. b4 I told u I have vitiligo, u felt i was ignorant. That's y I said it seems u 2no more on d subject more than me who has d experience. So how can u b explaining about d rarity of vitiligo 2me& then u say cos I didn't get my vitiligo from parents, it means nothing? U really an expert as I can c.

I don't no how to calculate hereditary odds. Like I asked u earlier, what does that do 4 me? How should that b my problem. U free 2b calculating that since u pride urself as a vitiligo researcher. I didn't calculate any odds b4 I got vitiligo which also proves that a forebear doesn't need 2 have vitiligo b4 a descendant gets it. That theory could still hold true 4 d Jackson kids.

Once again, we are back 2 ur statement:

"And Michael's genes are weak doesn't mean his kids wouldn't see something to get from him in looks".

Apart from vitiligo that u have been promoting as proof of paternity, what are d "something" that MJs children got from his looks?

lexy2014:


What is wrong if I want 2 have d last say? Don't u want 2 have d last say? Is that not ur emotion speaking? Is there any rationality in complaining about whether I like 2 have d last say? U seem 2 like 2 shift d attention from urself when u are drifting. So am not surprised at u using d emotional card.

There's nowhere I told u that vitiligo isn't hereditary. Therefore, there's nowhere u told me I was wrong. I asked u simple questions, is vitiligo hereditary? Does it cause a person 2b all white? Does it cause a person 2 have Caucasian hair? Instead of a simple yes or no& explaining ur point, u started going personal. So u have been on d emotional journey even b4 d conversation proper started.

U don't need 2 care if I have vitiligo & I don't care if u care. b4 I told u I have vitiligo, u felt i was ignorant. That's y I said it seems u 2no more on d subject more than me who has d experience. So how can u b explaining about d rarity of vitiligo 2me& then u say cos I didn't get my vitiligo from parents, it means nothing? U really an expert as I can c.

I don't no how to calculate hereditary odds. Like I asked u earlier, what does that do 4 me? How should that b my problem. U free 2b calculating that since u pride urself as a vitiligo researcher. I didn't calculate any odds b4 I got vitiligo which also proves that a forebear doesn't need 2 have vitiligo b4 a descendant gets it. That theory could still hold true 4 d Jackson kids.

Once again, we are back 2 ur statement:

"And Michael's genes are weak doesn't mean his kids wouldn't see something to get from him in looks".

Apart from vitiligo that u have been promoting as proof of paternity, what are d "something" that MJs children got from his looks?

ChristoBam:

Seriously arguing with you is frustrating....It's obvious you didn't believe it was hereditary at all. Look at the other questions you asked except from that question..Like asking if it makes a person white.
..And again you wanted to trap me with those questions and I didn't fall for it, so stop playing that card. You wanted me to answer yes or no to if vitilgo is hereditary?? Lol you're funny, if I had said yes it's obvious what you'd have said. You have vitilgo, your parents don't have bla bla bla. I had to explain everything to you and even with that you still used that card.
You have vitilgo and you're triggered by the fact that I got to lecture you about something you didn't know about it. I never said I was an expert on vitilgo, infact all I know about vitilgo is how it looks like and how it might start appearing for someone that has it and how it can be hereditary. When I said you were ignorant, I was talking about the fact you didn't know it can be hereditary?? I told you to research on it, didn't I?? There's no where I said I was an expert on it or that I even have a general knowledge of it than you do. Our bane of discussion was on if it was hereditary.
And it's funny you believe in the odds that Prince's vitilgo isn't related to Michael Jackson but you just don't want to believe those kids are Michael's. As for your last question, I don't know the kids personally to know how similar they are to their father in looks.. The only thing you have to say against their resembling Michael at all is their Caucasian looks. The other obvious thing one can easily see is the vitilgo on Prince which I've stated.

ChristoBam:

The only thing you have to say against their resembling Michael at all is their Caucasian looks.

ChristoBam:

I want to ask you these questions.
Do you know Paris Jackson is naturally brunette and has a curly hair.
Her grandfather Joe Jackson has Green eyes.
Paris Jackson once said those that know their family well always comment that she looks like her father.. There are some things you can't get from pictures

lexy2014:


Am not getting frustrated talking with u. I honesty don't no y u are getting frustrated. Maybe its as a result of d fact that u also want to have d last say.

I didn't ask u if hereditary makes a person white. I asked u does vitiligo make a person all white. And i believe am not d only one who asked u that question. Several people on d thread asked u d same question. Like I said, u try 2 take d attention away from urself when its obvious u are drifting. D best u can do now is to offer a misinterpretation to what was written in black& white.

There's no shame in answering a question yes or no & then backing up ur claims with facts cos we were having a conversation. But it seems 4u, it was more than a conversation. Like they say, d wicked runneth when no man pursueth. So I don't no were u saw trap& where u were falling to.

I honestly don't no d card u want me 2 use. Should I use ur card? Should I throw my experience away just because u said vitiligo is hereditary? U talk with both sides of ur mouth. On d one hand u say u aren't an expert but on d other hand, but when i said i didnt inheriti
vitiligo from my anceators, u said it doesn't mean anything. That is a verdict. How do u no it doesn't mean anything if u aren't an expert?

U are still confirming what I told u earlier that u take ur telling me that vitiligo is hereditary as an achievement. Although u denied it, but here u are praising urself 4 "lecturing" me. When i read that, i was wondering if d meaning of d word "lecturing" has changed in d dictionary.

I have a right 2 believe what I want 2 believe. I don't think I have broken any law by so doing. If I don't believe that d kids aren't MJs, that's my choice. So I don't c y u are getting personal about it. Like I said, I don't no anything about d odds neither do I have any interests in calculating d odds cos it didnt apply in my case& it won't solve anything 4 me.



This was d bone of contention not just by me but by several peeps on d thread. When u brought vitiligo into d discussion, a lot of folks asked u d same questions that I asked u. Later on, u said this

"And Michael's genes are weak doesn't mean his kids wouldn't see something to get from him in looks".

So far so good, u haven't been able to prove this

lexy2014:


Am not getting frustrated talking with u. I honesty don't no y u are getting frustrated. Maybe its as a result of d fact that u also want to have d last say.

I didn't ask u if hereditary makes a person white. I asked u does vitiligo make a person all white. And i believe am not d only one who asked u that question. Several people on d thread asked u d same question. Like I said, u try 2 take d attention away from urself when its obvious u are drifting. D best u can do now is to offer a misinterpretation to what was written in black& white.

There's no shame in answering a question yes or no & then backing up ur claims with facts cos we were having a conversation. But it seems 4u, it was more than a conversation. Like they say, d wicked runneth when no man pursueth. So I don't no were u saw trap& where u were falling to.

I honestly don't no d card u want me 2 use. Should I use ur card? Should I throw my experience away just because u said vitiligo is hereditary? U talk with both sides of ur mouth. On d one hand u say u aren't an expert but on d other hand, but when i said i didnt inheriti
vitiligo from my anceators, u said it doesn't mean anything. That is a verdict. How do u no it doesn't mean anything if u aren't an expert?

U are still confirming what I told u earlier that u take ur telling me that vitiligo is hereditary as an achievement. Although u denied it, but here u are praising urself 4 "lecturing" me. When i read that, i was wondering if d meaning of d word "lecturing" has changed in d dictionary.

I have a right 2 believe what I want 2 believe. I don't think I have broken any law by so doing. If I don't believe that d kids aren't MJs, that's my choice. So I don't c y u are getting personal about it. Like I said, I don't no anything about d odds neither do I have any interests in calculating d odds cos it didnt apply in my case& it won't solve anything 4 me.



This was d bone of contention not just by me but by several peeps on d thread. When u brought vitiligo into d discussion, a lot of folks asked u d same questions that I asked u. Later on, u said this

"And Michael's genes are weak doesn't mean his kids wouldn't see something to get from him in looks".

So far so good, u haven't been able to prove this

lexy2014:


I don't no if paris Jackson is naturally brunette or has curly hair. But permit me if am wrong, is brunette not brown& is that consistent with negro hair? I also don't no if Joe Jackson was green eyed but to say it has to take those who no d Jackson family very well to spot d resemblance between Paris Jackson & her family is strange, cos d world had access to MJs pictures right from his Jackson 5 days to when he started changing his looks. MJ was public property from his childhood to adulthood. Maybe there's an image of him d world never saw. I don't no

ChristoBam:

I'm not going to write an epistle again cuz I see the back and forths are just gonna continue..So I'm just going to keep it short.. I'm frustrated with the argument cuz you're going off point a lot..
You said vitilgo is not hereditary don't deny that. Those people asking questions misunderstood what I said. They thought I meant the kids are white because of they have vitilgo. When I was talking about something being hereditary I was talking about vitilgo but they thought I meant their colour. Only you and safari girl understood what I meant.
Secondly about the question thing, I don't need to say yes or no before explaining an answer to a question. Infact it's really strange that you're making it an issue cuz you asked if they were hereditary and I told you precisely that people with parents that have vitolgo are 5 times more likely to have it. So how does a yes preceding the message change what I said. I'm not answering an exam question for God's sake.. Seems you just love writing epistles and tend to write on things that are not even important in the discussion to make sure you compose a long epistle.
I didn't want to touch this before but since you mentioned it again I will. I don't know why you don't understand why I said your having it means nothing to me...You have vitilgo, people have vitilgo around the world and not all of them got it from their parents and you didn't get it from yours...so I don't know why you are putting your situation in the thing consistently.. You're made it like the fact that you didn't get it from your parents means it can't be hereditary.. That particular reason is why I said your case means nothing to me.
Lol you say I'm praising myself... Only God knows where you get these ideas from. I said something is the case you said it's not and we argued about it, you twisted it to me insinuating I'm an expert on it, I denied it and even explained that I know few things about vitilgo now you're twisting it to me praising myself LMAO.

ChristoBam:

The fact that you have viltigo and your parents doesn't, means nothing.

ChristoBam:

The fact that you have viltigo and your parents doesn't, means nothing.

ChristoBam:

A mixed child normally has brown curly hair, there are some mixed kids you can only know they are mixed by the way their natural hair looks...You can make your research, Paris had brunette, curly hair when she was young.
Some people said her hair was blonde not knowing its naturally brown and curly...Strike one.
Some people complained she had green eyes but they didn't know her grandfather also had green eyes... strike two.
You see the picture I sent, there are so many pictures like that to proof they look so alike..You can check the internet for more.. I didn't know about people comparing their looks before now so people saw the resemblance. And apart from that there are so many people you wouldn't see their resemblance by pictures... My younger sister and mom is a typical example... I'm telling you the problem you guys have with Jackson kids is their colour

ChristoBam:

I'm telling you the problem you guys have with Jackson kids is their colour

ChristoBam:

Like I said in my previous message, most people thought I meant Michael Jackson's kids are white because of vitilgo they inherited and I tried to clarify what I meant.
You need proof Michael Jackson's genes are weak. Isn't the colour of the kids enough proof?

internationalman:
if it's my tribe we would say her father is calling her to join him

makavelli80:
U can bleach ya ass out but u can never change ya genetic code. I still don't believe that's his child