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Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by OpenYourEyes1: 10:35am On Apr 06, 2019
By the way, Trump is not a Christian. A true Christian does not live extravagant lifestyle, use curse words, not arrogant and prideful.

He is completely opposite of what a true believer represents. How he talks to the vulnerable is heart breaking.
Don't fall for a Great Deception.


Let the rich take care of themselves. Our job as believers is to spread the word of GOD and help the vulnerable ones around us.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 6:13pm On May 18, 2019
Slat o, bollard o, fence o, concrete wall o, etc., the point is ever since Trump's trumped over the border wall, they have not even moulded one single block!

Games upon games, and delay upon delay, and vacillation upon vacillation, they just refuse to build the wall.

Points to the fact, as I have earlier told you, that this is just symbolic, the real meaning is already made known to you in the thread if you care to read.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by McCoy662(m): 1:16am On May 19, 2019
MrPresident1:
America is called God's own country because it is the heaven of our world, and God dwells in heaven. God is the one that changes rulers and he is also the one that makes rulers.

Now when God makes you the heaven of the world he protects you, you can sleep with your eyes wide shut, you can have unprotected borders, and the wealth of the world will flow to you effortlessly, you will enjoy the best of everything.

God made America the heaven of our world, and blessed her with all the beautiful things, America did not become great just by itself, it was the empowerment of God that made her great.

Daniel 2:21
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

Daniel 4:17
This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.


America is not called ''God's own country'' just for the fun and thrill of it.

U are so dumb. because America abhors the evil we cherish in Africa and their economy is growing does not recognize it as a state in the Bible. don't relate everything to religion. there are many world leaders that have shinny walls too, are their respective countries Earth's paradise
we have to get things right, don't link things to religion because u think it's the right thing and besides, isn't America the nation that legalized gay marriage??
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by budaatum: 2:21am On May 19, 2019
MrPresident1:


God made America the heaven of our world, and blessed her with all the beautiful things, America did not become great just by itself, it was the empowerment of God that made her great.
God must be moving heaven around the world. Here is a list of where its been over time.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 8:42am On May 19, 2019
budaatum:

God must be moving heaven around the world. Here is a list of where its been over time.

Babylon, Medo-Persian, Greek, Roman empires have ruled the world at one time or the other through the empowerment of God, because the earth is the LORD's and its fullness thereof, and all that are in it, animate or inanimate, they all belong to him. And whomsoever pleaseth him, he places to rule over the earth.

America did not become great by any intrinsic ability, America became great because God wanted it so, and decreed it so.

Daniel 4:17
This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 8:59am On May 19, 2019
Mumu spilling gibberish

McCoy662:


U are so dumb. because America abhors the evil we cherish in Africa and their economy is growing does not recognize it as a state in the Bible. don't relate everything to religion. there are many world leaders that have shinny walls too, are their respective countries Earth's paradise
we have to get things right, don't link things to religion because u think it's the right thing and besides, isn't America the nation that legalized gay marriage??
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 9:02am On May 19, 2019
Mumu talking nonsense. Babylon, unrelentingly wicked, the spreader of evil, death, and despair, must die! grin

McCoy662:


U are so dumb. because America abhors the evil we cherish in Africa and their economy is growing does not recognize it as a state in the Bible. don't relate everything to religion. there are many world leaders that have shinny walls too, are their respective countries Earth's paradise
we have to get things right, don't link things to religion because u think it's the right thing and besides, isn't America the nation that legalized gay marriage??
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by budaatum: 4:22pm On May 19, 2019
MrPresident1:


Babylon, Medo-Persian, Greek, Roman empires have ruled the world at one time or the other through the empowerment of God, because the earth is the LORD's and its fullness thereof, and all that are in it, animate or inanimate, they all belong to him. And whomsoever pleaseth him, he places to rule over the earth.

America did not become great by any intrinsic ability, America became great because God wanted it so, and decreed it so.

Daniel 4:17
This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

Is Nigeria not great because God has not decided it would be yet?
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 10:18pm On May 30, 2019
One block like this, them never mould.

The purpose of this thread is to show you how they pass along hidden secrets in the full and complete view of everyone.

Na only you wen get eyes go see am

Crisis at southern border ko, Hannibal is at the gates ni

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Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 5:59am On Jun 15, 2019
One single block like this, them never mould. Unserious people.

Crisis at the southern border, Hannibal is at the gates grin
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 6:32pm On Jul 04, 2019
They have refused to allow Trump to have his wall, obstacle upon obstacle, now another obstacle has happened as the US Appeal court has ruled against Trump's wall


https://www.wsj.com/articles/appeals-court-blocks-trump-administrations-emergency-border-wall-spending-11562196698

Trump Administration’s Emergency Border-Wall Funding Blocked by Appeals Court

Ninth Circuit rejects Trump claim that emergency declaration lets him reallocate military funds to build wall

A federal appeals court in San Francisco on Wednesday blocked President Trump’s plan to shift $2.5 billion from the military budget to erect a border wall, finding by a 2-1 vote that the administration violated federal law by diverting funds Congress had appropriated for other purposes.

Rejecting administration arguments that the public interest necessitated such spending, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit found that those aims are “best served by respecting the Constitution’s assignment of the power of the purse...

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Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 6:34pm On Jul 04, 2019
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/appeals-court-trump-pentagon-cash-border-wall-64122744

Appeals court: Trump can't use Pentagon cash for border wall

An appeals court on Wednesday upheld a freeze on Pentagon money to build a border wall with Mexico, casting doubt on President Donald Trump's ability to make good on a signature campaign promise before the 2020 election.

A divided three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco agreed with a lower court ruling that prevented the government from tapping Defense Department counterdrug money to build high-priority sections of wall in Arizona, California and New Mexico.

The decision is a setback for Trump's ambitious plans. He ended a 35-day government shutdown in February after Congress gave him far less than he wanted. He then declared a national emergency that the White House said would free billions of dollars from the Pentagon.

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Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 6:36pm On Jul 04, 2019
Maybe we will now go to the Supreme court. Just maybe

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Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by budaatum: 7:00pm On Jul 04, 2019
MrPresident1:
Maybe we will now go to the Supreme court. Just maybe
He still has to battle land owners too, in the Land of the Free and the Brave. grin

Beyond Congress, property owners stand between Trump and U.S.-Mexico border wall

Trump's Border Wall Faces Texas-Size Backlash From Landowners
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 9:22am On Jul 05, 2019
Trump border wall: US president suffers new construction setback

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48869710

US President Donald Trump has again been thwarted in his attempt to use military money to fund his wall along the border with Mexico.

On Saturday, he lodged an appeal against a ruling by a judge blocking him from using defence department funds for anti-drug activities.

But a panel of the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the freeze, saying it was up to Congress to allocate funds.

Mr Trump declared a national emergency over the wall earlier this year.

He said he needed $6.7bn (£5.3bn) to it as a matter of national security.


Building the wall was a major election campaign promise.

All you need to know about the US border in seven chartsTrump threatens to shut Mexico borderThe butterflies that could stop Trump’s wall

Two of the three-judge panel in San Francisco agreed with the lower court's decision.

"As for the public interest, we conclude that it is best served by respecting the Constitution's assignment of the power of the purse to Congress, and by deferring to Congress's understanding of the public interest as reflected in its repeated denial of more funding for border barrier construction," the two judges wrote in their ruling.


He will triumph in this one too

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Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 9:36am On Jul 05, 2019
Let us continue to watch and see how this will pan out, I believe in President Trump, he is a go-getter, he has fulfilled most of his campaign promises, this one will not be an exception.

President Trump will build the wall and protect America!
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 6:52pm On Jul 05, 2019
Trump must trump in this one too. And he will build a big beautiful shiney shiney wall
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 9:05am On Jul 14, 2019
On the issue of the wall, we are going to the Supreme court.

The Executive has approved, the Congress has ratified, the Judiciary will stamp it into law.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 9:06am On Jul 14, 2019
President Trump must build the wall and make america safe
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 9:07am On Jul 14, 2019
By failing to upturn trump's veto, the Congress ratified the emergency declaration
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 9:09am On Jul 14, 2019
The Supreme court will rule that in the event of a national emergency, the president and commander in chief can use military funds to defend the country as expedient, because it is a national emergency
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 9:11am On Jul 14, 2019
Then we will begin to build the beautiful shiney shiney wall and america will be safe.

The ruling of the SC is expected by 26 July. Hopefully, everything will be concluded by the end of this generation
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 9:14am On Jul 14, 2019
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/12/supreme-court-trump-border-wall-1415651


Justice Dept. asks Supreme Court to lift border wall ruling

By JOSH GERSTEIN

07/12/2019 06:58 PM EDT

The Justice Department is asking the Supreme Court to step in to lift court orders blocking President Donald Trump from proceeding with his plan to spend billions of dollars on border wall construction despite Congress’ efforts to limit that spending.

Administration lawyers filed a stay application Friday afternoon seeking to lift an Oakland-based federal judge’s order blocking border wall projects in California, Arizona and New Mexico.

Solicitor General Noel Francisco told the high court that the injunction is impairing federal officials’ ability to cut drug trafficking across the border with Mexico.

“The harm to the government and the public from enjoining DOD’s use of the transferred funds during litigation is significant. The injunction frustrates the government’s ability to stop the flow of drugs across the border in known drug-smuggling corridors,” Francisco wrote.

Justice Elena Kagan gave the environmental and border groups that obtained the injunction until next Friday to respond to the request.

The current injunction puts on hold about $2.5 billion Trump’s plan sought to spend through a provision allowing available Defense Department construction funds to be spent on unforeseen needs.

However, the language Congress passed adding that flexibility says that authority can’t be used for budget items previously denied by lawmakers. Congress appropriated only $1.375 billion for border wall work in the current budget, and nothing for the specific projects covered by the injunction, but Trump aides devised a plan to spend more than $8 billion on the broad effort.

Trump’s move in May, which included efforts to open up funding by declaring a state of emergency, immediately drew a series of lawsuits from environmentalists, border residents, states and the House of Representatives. The suits argue Trump is acting illegally by spending funds without the approval of Congress, which must approve all appropriations under the Constitution.

Last week, a federal appeals court panel voted, 2-1, to deny the Justice Department’s stay request.

“The Constitution assigns to Congress the power of the purse. Under the Appropriations Clause, it is Congress that is to make decisions regarding how to spend taxpayer dollars,” 9th Circuit Judges Richard Clifton and Michelle Friedland wrote. “Congress did not appropriate money to build the border barriers Defendants seek to build here. Congress presumably decided such construction at this time was not in the public interest. It is not for us to reach a different conclusion.”

The appeals judges were unsparing about some of the Trump administration’s arguments. Clifton and Friedland deemed “not credible” the Justice Department’s contention that Congress had not denied the administration the funds it was seeking to spend.

The groups that obtained the injunction, the Sierra Club and the Southern Border Communities Coalition, said they’ll urge the justices not to lift the order.

“The courts have twice ruled against Trump’s requests to stay this important court order stopping construction of his ruinous wall. Now he is asking the Supreme Court to step in and save his wall, but we will continue to vehemently fight these tactics,” Sierra Club attorney Gloria Smith said.

The Justice Department filing with the high court asks the justices to rule on the application by July 26 to allow the funding process to be completed by September 30. Previous filings from the administration said that process needed to begin by early July to be carried out while the funds are still available.

However, administration lawyers also told the Supreme Court on Friday they’ve discovered a mechanism that might allow that process to be compressed, permitting officials to formally obligate funds for the border projects closer to the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by budaatum: 12:32am On Jul 15, 2019
E be like say these Trumpians no de hear or they fail to realise this is a Constitutional change with consequences that would outlive Trump.

a federal appeals court panel voted, 2-1 and said:

“The Constitution assigns to Congress the power of the purse. Under the Appropriations Clause, it is Congress that is to make decisions regarding how to spend taxpayer dollars,” 9th Circuit Judges Richard Clifton and Michelle Friedland wrote. “Congress did not appropriate money to build the border barriers Defendants seek to build here. Congress presumably decided such construction at this time was not in the public interest. It is not for us to reach a different conclusion.”
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 4:33pm On Jul 15, 2019
It is a national emergency, and in the event of a national emergency, the president cannot afford to be handicapped

budaatum:
E be like say these Trumpians no de hear or they fail to realise this is a Constitutional change with consequences that would outlive Trump.

Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 12:28pm On Jul 21, 2019
Justice Elena Kagan gave the ACLU/Sierra Club up till Friday 19th July, to file in their own counter to President Trump's appeal to the US Supreme Court. So, on Friday, they filed in their counter.

President Trump is requesting for a ruling by 26th July, so that the funds will not roll over and become unavailable by the end of the financial year ending 30th Sepember 2019.

If I can second guess the Supreme court, the issue at stake is of national security, so dire that the commander in chief has had to declare a national emergency that Congress could not upturn (a tacit approval). The president wants to use military funds to build the wall, because what is happening at America's southern border is a national emergency.

In the event of the declaration of a national emergency, the president assumes wider powers including, usurping some constitutional provisions because the situation is not normal. It is an emergency! In this, the lower court erred, they erred by focusing on constitutional provisions when clearly the president has assumed emergency powers to tackle a dire and present national security challenge.

The SC, hopefully, will rule in favour of the President, and funds can then be mobilised to build the wall, so that America and Americans can be safe. In this, I am sure the president will triumph again.

President Trump will trump his traducers again, in one mighty trump, his last trump before the end of the year, hopefully.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 9:35pm On Jul 21, 2019
The justices of the US Supreme Court should work with President Trump to make america safe.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by budaatum: 10:53am On Jul 22, 2019
MrPresident1:
The justices of the US Supreme Court should work with President Trump to make america safe.
It's US Supreme Court's duty to make America safe from a President too and I expect them to do it.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 11:24am On Jul 22, 2019
Yes, separation of powers. But you know in an emergency situation, with dire consequences, the president can even suspend the constitution. The president has not requested to use health funds or housing funds, he has requested to use military funds to tackle a dire and present danger, so the Supreme court will reason with him because it is an emergency tht needs to be tackled in time.

You know the year is also ending and all things must be concluded before the year runs out by September 30th, so really the learned Justices have to rule as soon as possible.


budaatum:

It's US Supreme Court's duty to make America safe from a President too and I expect them to do it.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 11:40am On Jul 22, 2019
The Learned Justices do not have the luxury of time. They have to rule as soon as possible.

In a national emergency, you do not have time to be vacillating or wasting time, the wall has to be built and, military funds are available to do this, within the context of the declaration of emergency by the executive, and the upholding of the same by the Legislature.

The Judiciary should rule as soon as possible.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by budaatum: 12:12pm On Jul 22, 2019
MrPresident1:
Yes, separation of powers. But you know in an emergency situation, with dire consequences, the president can even suspend the constitution.
The US President cannot suspend the Constitution of the United States! Please provide evidence if you claim otherwise.
Re: Trump's Shiny Beautiful New Wall and its Implications for America by MrPresident1: 1:14pm On Jul 22, 2019
I know say you will jump on that one, abi wetin consign you there, are you from America? grin

budaatum:

The US President cannot suspend the Constitution of the United States! Please provide evidence if you claim otherwise.

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