danot1030:
Eyin ibo, Yoruba ni baba yin lojokojo, awa lase ipinle yin.

The more reason why Igbos like Yoruba land is because their root is from here, so they should learn to respect the Yorubas the more.

she o yawere sha?

WisdomFlakes:




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/04/ohanaeze-kicks-as-ooni-insists-igbo-are-from-ile-ife/

Fictious tales that will make the flat head, chest beating tribe believe their ancestors was from Afonja land. At least this trend will stop the hypnotic believe of Igbos are branch of Isrealite.

Ok,.given the Ohaneze's position, the Jews came to Ile-Ife and later the Arabians came. O ma ga o.

This ooni should be very careful.. He is treading wrongly. He will be killed very soon.

This ooni should be very careful.. He is treading wrongly. He will be killed very soon. Yorubas are silently looking at him. He will be in for a shock

EdiAbali:


See this Yorubastard!

Where is the origin of the Yoruba people?

Yoruba traditionalists claim that they are from the Benin Kingdom, Yoruba Muslims are claiming they came from Mecca- Saudi Arabia while Yoruba Christians are claiming they fell from the Sky.
SMH

Am not Yoruba

PAGAN9JA:
There is some truth in what the Ooni says and I see where he is getting at.

However, the truth will not have much impact on the current tribal structures.


What The Ooni is trying to articulate is that the Igbo and Yoruba are from a distant common ancestry. An ancestry way older than Oduduwa or Nri. Both tribes belong to the YEAI Group of Volta-Niger tribes.

However this division happened 1000s of years ago. Its not a division but a natural evolutionary process of diversion of tribes.

Just like how we diverged from chimpanzees and we both share a common ancestor in a now extinct species of Great ape-like ancestors. Yet we dont really intermarry with Chimps do we ? This evolution dates way back when compared to evolution of human tribes. The Chimpanzee-human evolution has crossed the barrier of separate species which will produce sterile offspring if ever there was interbreeding.

Therefore in these terms an Igbo is much closer to a Yoruba and an Edo then say to a Hausa or Arab or Chinese.

In the same manner. A Yoruba is much closer to Igala , Itsekiri than to Igbo. and diverse Yoruba clans are the closest in that they are modern evolved culture with minimal differences and a more concrete form.


This is not interbreeding but diversionary evolution.


Therefore while the Ooni does have a point, it is of no relevance today except to understand where intertribal co-operation and relationship stands in the modern world.

The two cultures and genetic strains have diverged to such a point and to different lifestyles and conditions in that they have developed completely different cultures, language, spirituality and identity with very faint traces of their original ancestral similar culture left in their physique. E.g., faint similarities in some traditional religious references or lingusitc terms and other practices.

They have also slowly evolved different phenotype as well. flat head/ round head.


Thus the Ooni's real point which he is not able to articulate is that in terms of intertribal relationships, we must be conscious where we stand in politics.

A Yoruba must stand first with an Itsekiri and then with an Igbo and then with any other tribe.

He must understand his concentric circle of intertribal relations and where his first allegiance lies. First with his blood people, then his first cousins, then his second cousins, then the nation and then the rest of the world.


@macof what do you have to say about this.

9ce one but for the record Igbos are close to igala than the Yorubas are

igbodefender:

The Ooni and the people of Ife have spoken. That's their history. People should respect that.

We have nothing in common with Igbo
We don't think the same way
We have different culture that's so different

So whatever he is saying Is just pure fallacy, and if he is not careful with the Bullshit he says these days, it is very easy to dethrone a King in Yoruba Land. All these Young Generation of Yoruba kings just want to be useless

EdiAbali:


See this Yorubastard!

Where is the origin of the Yoruba people?

Yoruba traditionalists claim that they are from the Benin Kingdom, Yoruba Muslims are claiming they came from Mecca- Saudi Arabia while Yoruba Christians are claiming they fell from the Sky.
SMH

There is no point in time where we ever say we come from Benin Kingdom

You claim what we never claim for us, all these people sef trying to tell us our own history. Oduduwa fall from heaven and that is what we claim, we don't need you or anyone to believe it

Levi218:
Look! There is a truth in that post stop being tribalistic !!! Don't you even have consience? This country is dying under the lies of the old, so open the truths.

There is no truth anywhere, we have nothing in common

Olawalesmarter:




We have nothing in common with Igbo
We don't think the same way
We have different culture that's so different

So whatever he is saying Is just pure fallacy, and if he is not careful with the Bullshit he says these days, it is very easy to dethrone a King in Yoruba Land. All these Young Generation of Yoruba kings just want to be useless

The people of Ile Ife are very happy with their Kabiyesi, a Speaker Of Ancient Truths.

LordCenturion:
Ooni don dey fall my hand seriously, wetin concern nnyamirin ina-ki with yoruba people?,how pigs and humans relate?,this is an insults to yoruba people.. we never relate with dirty ipo'd pigs....

We Igbos know our history unlike omoluabeasts that claim to fall from the sky. Your Ooni knows Igbos are pure bred and wants to relate our existence with your smelly people so who do you think are the pigs here?

amakenny:


All over the world, united groups stand and lead others.

If Yoruba and Igbo refuse to unite, then Fulani and Hausa must continue to lead Igbo and Yoruba by the nose.


Already, Fulani is using its signature Islamic religion to further divide Yoruba and Igbo, and even divide Yoruba itself.
There is nothing to grunt about here

So does that means we have to accept a concocted tales of how we are related to people we have nothing in common with? This king is just toying with what he shouldn't be toying with because it is very easy to dethrone him.

We have nothing in common with Igbo and that is it, Everything he is saying have a selfish agenda

igbodefender:

The people of Ile Ife are very happy with their Kabiyesi, a Speaker Of Ancient Truths.

The people of ile ife are speaking to you that the King is blabbing his mouth, in fact it make us so sad and ruin our day how could we have any connections with people that are known to be Cannibals? Used to killed Twins while we keep ours and worship them? In fact this is an Insult on Yoruba race, Ooni is insulting and embarrassing us

prince3009:


We Igbos know our history unlike omoluabeasts that claim to fall from the sky. Your Ooni knows Igbos are pure bred and wants to relate our existence with your smelly people so who do you think are the pigs here?

Cannibals descendants talking

So confused about their history to the extent that they are desperate to form a link with Isreal

Ooni is just blabbing his mouth and if he is not careful he would be dethrone

Chinny024:
Is like this man wants to marry an Igbo woman...
That's how one Yoruba guy once saw that tribe was the greatest issue once told me he's from Yoruba-Igbo..
Me,I was like wat!!!!!!!
Is there anything like Yoruba -Igbo apart from delta-igbo, my people?

Love your smile. Be my girl!

Olawalesmarter:


Cannibals descendants talking

So confused about their history to the extent that they are desperate to form a link with Isreal

Ooni is just blabbing his mouth and if he is not careful he would be dethrone

Go to the Ooni's palace and and tell him that and let's see if you will leave there alive. We form link with Israel and now Ooni wants to form link with us! Shows we are more superior to you and will always be and even the Ooni knows it!

If that fact hurts you so much, exit the Awolowo way by using sniper

Olawalesmarter:


There is no point in time where we ever say we come from Benin Kingdom

You claim what we never claim for us, all these people sef trying to tell us our own history. Oduduwa Lucifer fall from heaven and that is what we claim, we don't need you or anyone to believe it

Fixed!

prince3009:


Go to the Ooni's palace and and tell him that and let's see if you will leave there alive. We form link with Israel and now Ooni wants to form link with us! Shows we are more superior to you and will always be and even the Ooni knows it!

If that fact hurts you so much, exit the Awolowo way by using sniper

barbarians and Savages will always feel important lol when given attention. In fact it is an Insult to Yoruba people to say we are related to savages, but it is a free world talk is cheap and everyone can say and Claim anything, anyone can claim to be a Lion it doesn't mean the person is really a Lion in fact the person could just be a chicken

i sure love this, God bless you

Guyman02:
So Yorubas are Odudunwa meaning Last born in the family while Nri was the eldest and first son. Ooni don buy market

I want to add that Ile-Ife was founded by an Igbo girl called Ile-Ifeyinwa

Please can we all relax and make fun of this instead of turning it into tribal bashing and abuse of the traditional rulers

Olawalesmarter:


There is no truth anywhere, we have nothing in common

So you support the division right?

Levi218:
So you support the division right?

You can't unite People with lies

PythonAmaka:

You simply couldn't figure beyond the height of low self esteem. A ridiculously low complex that has deformed your mental well being.
Moremi was a paragon of beauty, none could compare. Never was her identity or ancestry ever in doubt. In every measure, such is the greatness of Yoruba women.
Perhaps, your mother played an away match, but the very moment your paternity comes in doubt, you shall be banished from the royal palace.
*spits


-python amaka

If you must know, I partially favour my dad with same pretty cute birthmark and facial expression..... let's say I am a handsome lady with good home training, I have plenty of self respect and I was taught to be good and not speak ill of my neighbors......that's the true definition of a princess.
At least I know my lineage, what could be said of yours?Omo Iran Kiran!People like you only thrive on discord...you are a bitter person and I refuse to be a tribalist like your spiteful self.
Olodo, even studies have said the Yorubas are genetically 99.9 percent Igbo. So, till you carry out your research and tell us the evidence of your findings, stop being obnoxious and classless.
You can be better person if you can do away with all these bitterness in you. All the best!

PAGAN9JA:
There is some truth in what the Ooni says and I see where he is getting at.

However, the truth will not have much impact on the current tribal structures.


What The Ooni is trying to articulate is that the Igbo and Yoruba are from a distant common ancestry. An ancestry way older than Oduduwa or Nri. Both tribes belong to the YEAI Group of Volta-Niger tribes.

However this division happened 1000s of years ago. Its not a division but a natural evolutionary process of diversion of tribes.

Just like how we diverged from chimpanzees and we both share a common ancestor in a now extinct species of Great ape-like ancestors. Yet we dont really intermarry with Chimps do we ? This evolution dates way back when compared to evolution of human tribes. The Chimpanzee-human evolution has crossed the barrier of separate species which will produce sterile offspring if ever there was interbreeding.

Therefore in these terms an Igbo is much closer to a Yoruba and an Edo then say to a Hausa or Arab or Chinese.

In the same manner. A Yoruba is much closer to Igala , Itsekiri than to Igbo. and diverse Yoruba clans are the closest in that they are modern evolved culture with minimal differences and a more concrete form.


This is not interbreeding but diversionary evolution.


Therefore while the Ooni does have a point, it is of no relevance today except to understand where intertribal co-operation and relationship stands in the modern world.

The two cultures and genetic strains have diverged to such a point and to different lifestyles and conditions in that they have developed completely different cultures, language, spirituality and identity with very faint traces of their original ancestral similar culture left in their physique. E.g., faint similarities in some traditional religious references or lingusitc terms and other practices.

They have also slowly evolved different phenotype as well. flat head/ round head.


Thus the Ooni's real point which he is not able to articulate is that in terms of intertribal relationships, we must be conscious where we stand in politics.

A Yoruba must stand first with an Itsekiri and then with an Igbo and then with any other tribe.

He must understand his concentric circle of intertribal relations and where his first allegiance lies. First with his blood people, then his first cousins, then his second cousins, then the nation and then the rest of the world.


@macof what do you have to say about this.

There is no truth to what he is saying, nobody who knows the Yoruba well can say that

Reason why i say this?
There is a subgroup of the Yoruba people called the Ilaje in modern Ondo State, within the ilaje a great kingdom exist called Ugbo (Igbo in standard Yoruba dialect)
This man who calls himself an ọba but keeps embarrassing the throne by talking too much

He is intentionally denying and trying to wipe out Ugbo from ife history and replace it with Igbo(Ibo) probably due to the Olugbo claiming to be superior to the Ọọ̀ni some time ago..https://www.nairaland.com/3799474/im-leader-yoruba-monarchs-olugbo
https://www.nairaland.com/3501858/ooni-ogunwusi-olugbo-akinruntan-supremacy

Ọọ̀ni is probably firing back but in the process making a mess of things.. Instead of focusing on settle the controversy of Odùduwà's origin he is scattering things

I refuse to believe he doesn't know that the "Igbo" yoruba history talks about is Ugbo not Ibo, he should know, children know this

And the Olugbo came out some days ago to correct this fallacy https://www.nairaland.com/5133314/yorubas-no-ancestral-link-igbo

I am not saying yoruba and Igbo share no ties, we do going back longer than any of us can remember, but absolutely no Yoruba records of history significantly talk about igbos. .. And the igbos themselves, I don't know if their ancestors kept records in any form because modern igbos don't know any history
Only evidence of a connection are in linguistics and some traditional elements
Experts say the Yoruba and Igbo split 3000 years ago

So this is very different from the Ife-Igbo conflict of less than 1000 years ago

You have a serious point there because even if APC zone the Presidency to SE. That not withstanding, he made some valid points too

Alexis11:


Will Tinubu stop PDP from zoning Presidency to the East

Will Igbos vote massively for an Igbo man in APC

Why not learn to tell yourself the truth and stop being emotional

Born2Breed:
With all due respect to the Ooni of Ife. He is confusing Ugbo with Igbo.

He should call for a meeting between Himself, the Oba of Benin and the Olugbo of Ugbo. The truth lies between these three great Kings.

This is not about ego but the truth. The history of Yoruba is incomplete without mentioning small Benin, just the way the history America is incomplete without mentioning small UK or China without small Japan.

Same way igbo history won't complete without mentioning Benin same way with igala same way with delta. So we all came from Benin this is the link that Oni might be saying

danot1030:
Eyin ibo, Yoruba ni baba yin lojokojo, awa lase ipinle yin.
The more reason why Igbos like Yoruba land is because their root is from here, so they should learn to respect the Yorubas the more.

Yes o! The colonial masters buried the True History as told by Ooni and, sowed generational seeds of enemity between the 2 brothers instead. They knew by divination, whichcraft or prophesy, that the day the 2 brothers reunite, Africa would truly rule the World. Igbos have superior commerce intelligence, Yorubas have far superior Spiritual advancement and far superior War Wisdom. Remember that Igbos almost won the Civil War, infacts, they would have won. Nigeria couldn't win the Biafran War for almost 4 years, till they begged Awolowo to help. Awolowo then designed an infallible military strategy that gave Nigeria Victory within just few months. War is about killing people. Kill or be killed, in warfare, all is fair.
Oba Ooni of Ife said the Truth. A Prince of OluIgbo of Ugbo Land explained same Historical background here as told my his grandpa. What Ooni's said is far more credible than senseless claim of Igbos to be descendants of Jews in Isreal. Igbos' inferiority complex is rather forcing themselves to identify as slaves to whitemen. It has been scientifically and archeologically proven that first men to walk on the Earth were black people. Even the whites know they descended from blacks, just as Ooni has explained. But the eternaly mentally colonized Igbos are claiming the opposite. In addition, Oba Ooni has seen what is unavoidaly coming upon Souther Nigeria if we don't unite as brothers. Igbos think they are wise, but they are the most senseless among humans on Earth. Now they are making the South easily conquarable. Some some bastard Igbos would come and shout "Yoruba Moslems" here, when they give Yorubas no brotherliness. Laslas, Yorubas shall thrive, Igbos shall be destroyed.

Olawalesmarter:


There is no point in time where we ever say we come from Benin Kingdom

You claim what we never claim for us, all these people sef trying to tell us our own history. Oduduwa fall from heaven and that is what we claim, we don't need you or anyone to believe it

I have seen many Yoruba who claim that Yoruba people Oduduwa migrated from Saudi Arabia.

If you want me to believe you fall from the Sky you have to provide evidence

EdiAbali:



I have seen many Yoruba who claim that Yoruba people Oduduwa migrated from Saudi Arabia.

If you want me to believe you fall from the Sky you have to provide evidence

We don't need anyone to believe

Rooy57:
See as Ooni they toy with Ohanaeze brain... Lol

See this odudunwa
Now i understand the origin of that name. Never thought of it that way.