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Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nowenuse: 4:46pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Naajjii: Wait oo, I didn't even see the part where you said Hausas have the skills. What skills do Hausas have? Mai shayi, Mai suya, Mai Ruwa skills? The Mai Aya, Mai Rake, Mai Albasa and all the manners of wheel barrow hawking? Which skills abeg. You are not ashamed to claim that the people you are dominating are far more educated and living richer lives on average than you are. 5 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by wirinet(m): 5:04pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
FortuneDeGreat: That's mistake you people make, egalitarian societies don't work. If it works ancient Greece would not have abandoned the idea. All the great and powerful societies have been monarchies with strong and visionary rulers, ie, Ancient Rome, Greece, Turkey, Spain, England, Persia, Egypt, etc. Egalitarian city states are easily conquered and that was why the igbo villages were easily overran and taken as slaves during the slave trade. Even though the igbo did not practice monarchy, it was anything but Egalitarian. Women practically had little rights within the family and society and there was the issue of Osu (slaves). 3 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by YungMillionaire: 8:35pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
wirinet: You just leave dem...dem go shock...dem think say we be bush people wey no know history... |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by YungMillionaire: 8:37pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
gidgiddy: What you don't know is that NDR is far more plausible/possible than Biafra |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Naajjii: 8:45pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Lol , this Iyamiri no go kill person o. All those mai suya and the rest are from Niger republic besides make good money, clean money unlike you people. What skills do you have other than dubiousness for example baby factory where you hold innocent girls hostage get them pregnant keep producing babies for money rituals, fake drugs etc. Did you see the porn nude video posted by your leader Nnamdi Kalu from Europe ? Are you proud of that? |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Malawian(m): 9:23pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
fx45: Nwunne, I na ada aka o. so, I fu onye mmanu, I gaghi ama? |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Naajjii: 10:05pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
FortuneDeGreat:You supported him because he picked one of you as vice. And that diminished his chances a great deal. Next time he won't make such mistake anymore. |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by gidgiddy: 12:07am On Apr 29, 2019 |
YungMillionaire: How is that possible when nobody is agitating for it? At least with Biafra, there is agitation How can a Niger Delta Republic be possible when there is not one single organisation that is championing or agitating for this? Its already hard enough for those who are agitating for Biafra, to even think of a Niger Delta Republic nobody is agitating for 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nowenuse: 10:00am On Apr 29, 2019 |
Naajjii: See this one. Do you want to tell me nonsense? I speak hausa fluently and I know the Hausas, fulanis and Zarmawa who are from Niger republic. I can clearly differentiate them from Katsinawa, Kanawa or Zazzagawa, do you think I am a southerner who don't know the difference in Hausa accents? I prefer Igbos to you stinking filthy roadside begging almajiri and illiterates. There are many bad Igbos, yes but the good, enlightened, social and progressive Igbos are more in numbers. Show me any good thing Hausas bring to any where they go apart from baranci, almajiranci, Talauci, shan kwaya and all manners of backwardness. 6 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nowenuse: 10:21am On Apr 29, 2019 |
I have gone through your profile. Naajjii, you are not a Hausa man. You are a Kogi man who has probably lived most of your life in Hausa land and by that you are now a Hausa wannabe. I know your likes. But it's such a pity that you guys just choose to be slaves of fulanis just like that. Same fulanis who came together with Nupes and ravaged Ebira land, killing thousands of your people all in a bid to force you into islam. Same fulanis who forcefully humiliated the Attah of Igala by removing his cap when he went to a meeting with core northern traditional leaders. No wonder you kept queit when I reminded you what the Hausa fulanis usually do to your people during religious crisis. Kogi, Nupe, Auchi, Alago and Yoruba muslims are hunted down and killed like rabbits during religious crisis in Kaduna, Jos & Kano, because your people are seen as fake muslims. In Kaduna and Jos, you people run to we Plateau and Southern Kaduna christian indigenes for protection, in Kano, you run to Igbo domimated Sabongari for protection from your so called hausa muslim brothers, what a shame! 6 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by NLandIsHypocrit: 10:31am On Apr 29, 2019 |
Naajjii:How on earth did you arrive in this kind of assumption by linking Igbo's with Yoruba? Or is that another strategy to introduce Islam in Igbo land? You left other related tribes that you should have mentioned and you're mentioning nation of ritualists. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nobody: 11:21am On Apr 29, 2019 |
Nowenuse:wow thanks so much for this 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nowenuse: 3:07pm On Apr 29, 2019 |
Excaperx: Don't mind all these Hausa fulani wannabes. They have allowed fulanis to use religion to completely brainwash and confuse them to accepting inferiority to the caliphate. Very shameless race of people. We in Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Taraba e.t.c will never submit to the caliphate or sing fulani or stupid and useless Arewa superiority praises. Imagine the stupid Ebira koto man. Even indigenous muslims from Plateau and Bauchi tribes who have been heavily hausazined are still highly discriminated by Hausa fulanis let alone this Akpoto from Kogi state. @ Naajjii 3 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nobody: 4:09pm On Apr 29, 2019 |
Nowenuse:but why isn't Hausa,allow as president? Why only Fulani? 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Naajjii: 9:07pm On Apr 29, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Lol , this one is apparently frustrated. like I told you am still not convinced you are a northerner but it seems you are northern based, I get that Igbo innuendo from your post . Once again Hausa are the majority in the north so they dominate,that is not surprising, anywhere you are more in number you dominate.If you are less you become minority, the same Hausa / Fulani are minorities in Taraba, Plateau and they accepted it. Let me enlighten you a bit Most of those plateau and southern Kaduna speak hausa as first language, most cant speak their languages anymore because they adopted Hausa most of tgeir languages are going into extinction. It was not the caliphate that spread hausa that wide but the missionaries. Missionaries used hausa to spread christianity in the north. So if you got a problem with that go and engage the missionaries. Why didnt the missionaries use Igbo to do the same in tge south ? You tried to dominate the Niger Delta people it didn't work and now you are coming to me with that frustration. You ain't got no skill of governance buddy. You can labour a bit more to identify my race , you almost got it. |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Naajjii: 10:17pm On Apr 29, 2019 |
NLandIsHypocrit:Yorubas are more organised as a unit than you guys na. I suggest you copy one or two from them. |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nowenuse: 10:48am On Apr 30, 2019 |
Excaperx: The today's definition of who a hausa and who a fulani is has become very obscured. Buhari for instance claims to be a fulani man, but he speaks no fulfude nor practices any fulani culture. He is a Hausa man culturally and linguistically. It's just like the fulanis of Ilorin who will say they are fulanis but show possess no fulani culture or language, they have been completely yorubanized. Fulanis of the North-west have been Hausanized and hardly do you find any fulanis of the north-west without Hausa bloodline. You can mostly find pure Hausas in the rural areas of the Northwest. Otherwise most Hausa elites or middle class Hausas have been heavily mixed with fulani blood that they themselves can claim to be fulanis for prestige. That is the way it is in the North-west. The true pure fulanis are the herdsmen and fulani gida of the North-east. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nowenuse: 10:59am On Apr 30, 2019 |
Naajjii: You really don't know how the world works. This makes me think you must still be a teenager under your mother's roof. Tutsi were the minority in Rwanda at the time of independence from Belgium and even worse after the genocide, but they dominated the politics and power of Rwanda since then till now, why? This was because the Belgians saw the Tutsis who were of cushitic descent to be more civilized than the Hutus who were of pure Bantu ancestry even though both ethnicities spoke the same language. So, the Belgians left the Tutsi minority to be in charge of Rwanda. Of course I don't need to tell you that this was what led to the genocide. Another example, in Indian administered Kashmir, the muslims have been the overwhelming majority, but the Kashmiri Hindu Pandits held all the power there because they were being favored by the Indian central govt of course because of their religion. If you know world politics and history, you know what later happened to the Kashmiri Hindus? They were cleansed from Kashmiri valley. Lastly, in most Latin American countries, the overwhelming majority of the population are Mestizo/Mulatto (mixed race), but who calls the shots in these countries? The white elite class of course. This was the legacy left by the Iberian colonial masters. So my friend, go and read a book. Political domination is not always about being a majority! 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nowenuse: 11:39am On Apr 30, 2019 |
Naajjii: I do not even wish to be addressed as a northerner, so you can keep that classification for yourself. I am a middlebelter. Did I ever argue with you that Plateau people speak Hausa very well? Yes we do, but we can never be Hausanized culturally or mentally because Hausa culture has been synchronized with islam and we are not muslims. Talking about the spread of Hausa language in our region. They were many things that lead to this and not just the missionaries. Okay let's even talk about the missionaries. The caliphate and the British were the ones who forced the missionaries to use Hausa to evangelize our people. The Sudan united missionaries who landed in Pankshin first wanted to use Angas language to evangelize our people, but the Caliphate/British coalition knew that if this happened, a new majority ethnic group will emerge in the North to rival Hausa fulani hegemony because all Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Nasarawa, Taraba e.t.c may start speaking Angas. Slightly before the missionaries came, Hausa language had already started to spread in some of our areas due to trade. Bauchi tribes had already been conquered by the caliphate and we were their neighbours, so there was serious slave trade, salt trade, mat trade and other forms of trade going on in this axis and Bauchi was the link with the core north. Hausa also has been taught in all our schools since colonial education. So it's not all about missionaries. Yoruba and Igbo languages gradually spread among the minorities in the old Western & Eastern regions. This is why Yoruba language is very common among the smaller Edo tribes of Edo north and Igbo language was very common among the Okrika (Ijaw) people of Rivers. Another factor is that Southern minority ethnic groups are larger than Northern minority ethnic groups, so the spread of a foreign language among the Southern minorities was more difficult than areas of the middlebelt like Southern Kaduna, Plateau or Adamawa where in some cases every village speaks a different language and has a different culture. Lastly the British used the caliphate for indirect rule in the North, but such never existed in the south. Imagine the whole of Southern Kaduna (except Jaba & Kagoro) was under Zaria emirate not until few decades ago. Did Zaria ever conquer Southern Kaduna tribes? Hell no, that never happened. They wanted to force my own Plateau people under Bauchi emirate like they did to Southern Kaduna but thank God most of our tribes heavily protested and rejected it, hence they had to give us our own native authority. Till today, the entire Southern Borno and half of Adamawa tribes are still under fulani emirate rule. When did fulanis conquer Buras, Marghis, Kibakus, Kilbas, Yandangs, Gandas, Kamwes (the Mandara mountains) e.t.c? Fulanis only displaced some of them with war, but most of these tribes were never under any direct form of fulani rulership before the British came. In fact some tribes like Batta (Bwatiye) people who were displaced from Yola kept on attacking and regrouping to attack Yola and Yola was suffering serious casualties from their attacks before the British came. So much injustice to Northern/middlebelt minorities. So don't come here to explain nonsense Mr man. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Naajjii: 8:56am On May 01, 2019 |
Nowenuse:Yes in some cases political dominance is not necessarily influenced by population. But in Nigeria situation , it does to a large extent. Examples abound. If Hausa is the minority in the north no way it will exact such influence as it does today. Likewise if Islam is the minority religion in the north it won't influenced thinking and decision in the north as it current does. States like plateau, Benue where Muslims are minorities they can't influence alot of things. You people keep complaining British gave northerners advantage over south politically. The question is how long will this complaint linger, British left us for almost 60yrs now. What have you or you igbo brothers done to correct the imbalance if there was any? British left Nigeria with arm forces filled with top Igbo Senior officers as majority. Go and do research and see. That itself was an advantage , is is not ? You people failed to utilise such advantage. You stage a tribal coup , elimiated officers and politicians of other ethnic groups especially northerners. A revenge coup was stage later on as a pay back, who started it in the first place? So what are you complaining about, that northerners are dominating when you failed to use your chance or rather you created the situation with that unfortunate coup. The examples of Rwanda , Kashmir does not apply to Nigeria situation. Yes Belgium gave Tutsi advantage but what happened after Belgium left? Was the first and second president of Rwanda Tutsi. Hutu been the majority took power back and Tutsi became rebels and refugees in Uganda. Go and read more about Rwanda.Tutsi's Paul Kegame was supported by Uganda govt lead by Moseveni till date the support is still there and of course western Nations. Also Organisation, mentality and boldness plays part in dominance. If all you about is money and materialism then by ready to sell your conscience and culture for money. Some people due to excessive quest for money and materialism they get bought politically, later they will turn around that they are being unfairly treated when in the first place they sold their chance. |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Naajjii: 9:12am On May 01, 2019 |
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Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by MONIKERREVEALER: 10:01am On May 01, 2019 |
nobody is begging anybody to join us igbos in biafra. when the time comes, you guys will be afforded referendum forms to fill out if you guys are interested. the international interventionist invaders are soon coming to the shiithole to tear zoogeria to pieces and we, the great easterners, are SOO gone from the shiithole ASAP, AMEN!!! 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by MONIKERREVEALER: 10:07am On May 01, 2019 |
are you not a confused, hypocritical, wicked fellow?!!! your fellow "northerner" is complaining to you about how you hausas and fulanis have been treating them so wickedly yet all you have to tell him is that let him shift make you see road to continue bashing we the great easterners. he even told you about how his people are being killed, raped and their properties destroyed by people who called themselves fellow "notherners" with them but, of course, all a satanic tribal bigot like yourself is interested in is what and what ipob and igbos said!!! has ipob killed any southerner before talkless of killing any northerner?!!! why you want die for on top ipob/igbos matter when your own house dey burn down?!!! continue to dey follow igbo/ipob/biafra matter upandan nairaland everyday you hear!!! e go soon clear for una eyes for that north because una payback for all una bloodshed/progroms/atrocities is knocking on una door right now!!! KWANTINUE!!! Naajjii: 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by cheruv: 11:04am On May 01, 2019 |
Ikpaitit:Nwo Mmọṅọ!! |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Naajjii: 2:02pm On May 01, 2019 |
MONIKERREVEALER:Relax Mr man, we had personnal experience with you guys at the peak of IPOB activities when Nnamdi Kanu was in jail.since then we realised that if given the opportunity to lead You people will be worst oppressors than Fulani. That's why God didn't give you that ability to lead. You can only do business and make money but to rule multi ethnic society you lack the skills and tolerance. You don't have the opportunity that's why you are pretending, we are smarter than that buddy. I wish you good luck In your Biafra project. |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by MONIKERREVEALER: 4:23pm On May 01, 2019 |
thanks for wishing us good luck and may the Almighty Elohim have mercy on you and your family on the day when he shall visit the north in his wrath for judgment and punishment!!! I have observed you and noticed, irrespective of your wicked, hateful and satanic heart, that you are brave. oyoruba cowards would have dodged my comment or, at least, waited till the thread dies before responding, but you engaged me averagely promptly though with your normal hypocritical, moroñic and wicked-hearted büllshït. in parting and once again to you notherners; the international interventionist invaders are soon coming to the shiithole to tear zoogeria to pieces and we, the great easterners, are SOO gone from the shiithole ASAP, AMEN!!! Naajjii: 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Mummyimbecile(m): 4:41pm On May 01, 2019 |
gidgiddy:take it from me,no governor can say such,a governor is a public figure,and is wary of statements made,such statement as the OP portrays that gov okowa said is capable of underminding the unity of the Federal republic of Nigeria |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Naajjii: 4:57pm On May 01, 2019 |
MONIKERREVEALER:Lol Sir , take it easy. Like I stated my focus on IPOB people was due to personnal experience where I was the only northern working among you people at the time and I knew the experience I got. Therefore, i think I didn't go wrong engaging you people. It will be exciting to see you leave with your baggages. Rember to get visa to our country for you people,it would be harder than American visa, just so you know. Incase you people will start complaining that we are Ecowas therefore we should relax our visa policy. We won't relax it, you have to be subjected to thorough background check to ensure you got no drug pushing history or money ritual records . |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by MONIKERREVEALER: 5:25pm On May 01, 2019 |
no sweat guy e no far again una time don almost reach... Naajjii: 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nowenuse: 3:08am On May 02, 2019 |
Naajjii: Hahaha, good for you that you now admit that domination is not all about population. Wait, you are talking about Hausas being the majority in the north and dominating? The last time I checked, the fulanis and their descendants were the ones dominating and not the pure Hausas who have the largest population in the north. So, can I still hear you talk about population being the dominant factor of domination in Nigeria? You better stop making a ridicule of yourself. In Plateau, Beroms are the largest ethnic group, and have been so, since the seperation of Benue-Plateau in 1976, but they just got the chance to rule in 2007 through Jang, and with the way things are going, they may never rule Plateau state anymore, unless by luck. Same thing in Taraba where the Jukuns are the majority, but they just got the chance to rule through Darius in 2015. In Nasarawa, Eggons are the majority but never ruled till now because other tribes are ganging up against them sort of. Indigenous muslims in Benue are almost non existent, they are like 2% of the state, only with communities in 1 LGA so it's not even a question of being a minority there. In Plateau, Indigene muslims are like 10-15%, there are very many Hausa muslims but they are considered as settlers and their factor does not really play in the state politics. Taraba is the only christian dominated state with a significant muslim minority. Now I know someone like you will never accept that christians are actually the majority in Nasarawa and Adamawa states with about 60% of both states, but they actually are and I can prove this to you. Christians however do not dominate in these states because of some reasons. At the time of carving out of Katsina state from Old Kaduna state, christians were actually the clear majority in Kaduna city and Kaduna state at large, and perhaps still the majority till now, but the political structure of Kaduna state was manipulated consistently to ensure that Hausas produce more senators, house of reps and house of assembly members in order to dominate the state. This is where the issue of political structure to favour minorities actually come in. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nowenuse: 3:21am On May 02, 2019 |
Naajjii: Yes, the British left, but the new nation Nigeria was founded on a foundation of injustice of the ills of the British and some of these injustices can only be corrected by war or crisis. I gave you a clear example, till today, so many Northern minority tribes who were never conquered by the emirates are still under the emirates. It was not until the 1987 kafanchan crisis, the 1992 Zangon kataf crisis and the 2001 sharia crisis that Southern Kaduna tribes gained their own chiefdoms. If not for these crisis, they would never have gotten this. The British left the Northern protectorate as one region and divided the Southern protectorate into 2 regions to further divide the south. Why? Then lumped 75% of Nigerian minority groups under the Northern and forced them to be influenced by the caliphate in order to homogenize the Northern region, but never did this to the south. Even minority groups like Kogi, Benue and Kwara people who are purely yorubas were all lumped under the northern region in order to make it bigger and more intimidating. To a large extent, these colonial definitions are still what defines identity and politics in Nigeria and you are asking people to get over this or correct it by themselves just like that? Do not support the stupid politics of 'my fathers outsmarted your fathers, so it's your luck and you must live with the consequences or blame your fathers'. No. Nigeria will never survive on injustice and it is up until a matter of time before it blows up affecting every one of us. If our generation does not come together to correct these wrongs and ensure a more egalitarian society for our people where no one feels cheated or oppressed, then we will suffer the consequences. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Will Break Up When South-south Agrees To Join Biafra – Gov. Okowa by Nowenuse: 3:47am On May 02, 2019 |
Naajjii: It's such a pity that nairaland has boxed the minds of people here to think everyone fakes an identity to make a point. Well, there are still sane people here. You don't understand the pains of christian minorities of the north otherwise you won't be making the silly comments that you are making. It's very obvious that you are from the middlebelt and you shamelessly go on campaigning for Arewa/Hausa fulani interests forgetting that when the chips are down, even you yourself would still be discriminated by these same Hausa fulanis. And you see one thing you middlebelt muslims don't understand is that you guys will equally suffer from whatever problems Hausa fulanis cause in Nigeria... You guys are already suffering it more in fact, but your stupidity and slavishness to Hausa fulanis have made you loose your souls. Thank God for your Kogi state sha, religious crisis among yourselves would be very rare, especially among the Igalas & Okuns unlike Ebira land where muslims clash with traditionalists and kill themselves. My ethnic group in Plateau state has so many muslims, infact half of my kinsmen are muslims, and they are very peaceful and non extremist muslims unlike Hausa fulanis, but do you know what? So many of them have been killed by religious crisis started by Hausas fulanis. In many communities of Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Taraba and Adamawa, all the indigenous muslims have been chased out of their ancestral homes because of the problems Hausa fulanis caused! But go to Zaria, Kano, Katsina, indigenous Hausa christians are still on their ancestral lands. In the 2008 Jos crisis, more Yorubas, Igalas, Ebiras e.t.c were killed in Jos than even Plateau indigenes. At first I wondered why, until I understood. This is because Yoruba Ebira & Igala muslims were attacked on both sides of the religious divides while their own christians were attacked on one side of the divide, as these people are usually like a 50/50 religiously. Hausa fulanis who cause the trouble are only victims of one side of the divide, Igbos and indigenous christians are only victims of one side of the divide. So you guys should keep on supporting Hausa fulani hegemony let us see where it will take you. Maybe by the time our entire region is engulfed in religious crisis/war one day and millions of middlebelt muslims are completely cleansed out of the region, you will come to your senses. 1 Like |
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