gidgiddy:


But the Igbo coup plotters were all punished. Those that survived the civil war all served time in jail and were dismissed from the Army

But Murtala, despite conducting his coup, which was far more bloody, was promoted, had airports named after him and was even honoured with his face on currency. Murtala did even far worse.

Is it one rule for Northerners and another for Easterners?

gidgiddy:


But the Igbo coup plotters were all punished. Those that survived the civil war all served time in jail and were dismissed from the Army

But Murtala, despite conducting his coup, which was far more bloody, was promoted, had airports named after him and was even honoured with his face on currency. Murtala did even far worse.

Is it one rule for Northerners and another for Easterners?

Nebuchadnezar:
[s][/s]
awolowo is a rat poison king

gidgiddy:


No matter who started it first, it still does not take away the fact that Murtala Mohammed was a cold blooded murderer

PrecisionFx:



Adolf Hitler's dead body was never found because there was no DNA testing back in 1945. The only credible info on that matter is that Hitler and his top commanders fled to Argentina n lived out their lives there, thatsba smart tiger.

The foolish fake pussy-tiger couldn't escape to British, rather he stayed back n killed himself.

Suicide is the greatest tool of cowards

PHIPEX:
One thing I have come to know is that Nairaland owner and MOD are very pretentious. You push a tread of this nature to the front page, stand back and pretend you don't support tribalism as long as it supports your interest but when it goes against your interest you pretend to ban.

You seem to forget the power of internet and propaganda. Everyone can get sentimental and defend his interest but a big shame to the MOD. If you encourage tribalistic treads then you have no right to ban anyone that goes full tribalistic. In this social media age propaganda against any tribe will not hold, it'll be countered but Nigeria as a nation will suffer for it.

imam07:
punished? Or what did i hear u saying. Go back and read the history why there was a counter coup. Then u win know Ironsi punished the coup plotters. Many of you don't really know what happened u only come online to argue. Also u are here telling us muritala coup was more bloody than Kaduna Nzeogwu. You better go and find somewhere to sleep. Is that what your father told you. Lies. It was not bloody to you ibos because no ibo man was killed in the coup. Many were killed in the west and north and u said it was not bloody. No wonder u argue blindly without facts. I wonder why you ibos did not see any fault in kaduna Nzeogwu coup. Nah waa for your tribe. You all argue based on the lies told by your forefathers.

gidgiddy:


Murtalas coup claimed over 300 lives, Nzeogwus coup claimed 15. Which is greater, 300 or 15?

My question is simple. Why did Nigeria honor a coup plotter, war criminal that conducted the Asaba massacre and genocidal killer like Murtala Mohammed? He was put on the N20, an Airport was named after him, major highways have his name.

Why wasn't Nzeogwu and others given the same honour? They were all coup plotters that killed people at the end of the day.

So why was Murtala honoured for doing evil and not Nzeogwu?

sweetrace:


Majority of his kinsmen walked around post war ashamed of the atrocities they had committed especially under the sickest mind that was hitlers. Hitler believed in the superrace. Even though he did not meet a single criteria of said superrace. The black race was the most inferior in his books. Hitler’s hatred for Jews was not because he saw them as inferior, but was for political and economical reasons. In fact, he felt inferior to the Jews even though some claim he had their blood in him. You see why I said he won’t have reckoned with you as human. Hitler is one of the most hated men in history for just reasons. He was a coward. Please stop aggrandizing him. His quest would never have become a reality because he was not a warrior in the first place. Other conquerors like Ceaser, Alexandra the great...conquered territories for expansion, for fame, for even riches, but never with Hitler’s depravity.

thatigboman:
are you yoruba or from kwara? Fulani slave

Westbestside:
Lol, her only achievement is nairaland likes she's getting here. She and her father keep talking of awolowo even after 30years of baba's death. Who will talk about her father 2hours after his death?

Born2Breed Born2Bleed:


I deliberately refrained from commenting on this thread after something was brought to my notice by those that matters.

You could have rant like a kid and make you silly point without mentioning my great Oba.

The mud is meant for pigs like you and I won't be dragged down to your level of stupidity.

Awo the idiotic criminal minded coupist maybe your god but to us he was nothing but a miserable frustrated tribalist and how he died was insignificant(rat poison, sniper,otapiapia idc)

Go ask your progenitors the reason Midwest decided to go on their own. Also ask them if you have any where most resources that made the Western region tick came from.

You dare mention my King,you son of many fathers from cursed generation of slaves and adulterous parents.

AbaLion:

He had very much less contact with blacks as they had with him. So, you could only imagine his mindset in hindsight. Although, I can't agree less with you of his uttermost maniacal inclination towards the Jews.
Don't be easily deceived by some public exhibition by some "so called" majority, for they worship in the "Berlin bunker" and the "Nazi salute" lives on with so little the world could do than cheap sanctioning. Afterall, Germans suffered as much extermination from Stalin but they've moved on some several decades ago.
Don't go deriding Hitler among his diehards, I warned you o.


-Lion

sweetrace:


The salute does not live on with his kinsmen. It lives on with white supremacists. They hate blacks completely.

Mbediogu:

At regional level he was incomparable to any but at federal level, he was abyssmally pitiable.

Olawalesmarter:


Have you forgotten about the Hitler Suicide note that is being auction recently?

aribisala0:
thought he ran to BL0WJOB London via Jerusalem

Blainz:


He is talking of Ojukwu

isthatso:


OAU was never an offshoot of UI. UI was owned by the federal government right from inception. University of Ife was conceived by Awolowo and owned by the Western government, just like ABU was owned by the Norther region and UNN Eastern region until the Gowon regine took over all universities in the early 1970s. Their temporary site was in ibadan while the ife campus was being constructed but that is as far as the connection with ibadan. University of Ife has more connection with ibadan poly (i beleive they shared their site as a temporary base) than it has with UI.....they have absolutely zero connection with UI and were never an offshoot and has no affiliation with UI.

Awolowo conceived Ife because the federal government at the time refused to establish more universities in the western region and Awolowo realised the west needed more universities to cope with the students who were graduating from his free education programmes. If you understand this you will know ife could never have been an offshoot because Ife was established in protest to the federal govt policy which he felt was shortchanging his people.

Westbestside:
And it is difficult for you to correct him and let see your correction mr linguistic.

olril17:

you are speaking nonsense...
awolowo never had anything to do with oau...its just revised history and most of u don't read.
university of Ife was conceived and established by chief S.L Akintola,premier of western region then.
all these apoda and their second hand history.

isthatso:


The ultimate test of a leader is the effect on his people. 60 years after he left power people are still talking about Awolowo's achievements. Gowon made him defacto vice president, leaders from other regions are still pointing to his acheivements. The way to answer these people is to ask them what is Ojukwu's legacy, what is kanu's legacy, which school did he build, which hospital did he build. tell them to point to the man whose life is better because Ojukwu was their leader. We in the west (including my father ) will point to millions who became engineers, lawyers, doctors etc because of Awolowo. We will point to Cocoa house, our road network, stadium, 1st televison in Africa, and so many 1sts etc etc etc etc because of Awo. This matter is simple, just tell them to point to what these leaders did for them. Calling someone coward or hero may make you feel good but name calling doesnt pay school fees, educate, lift people out of poverty or provide healthcare and roads.

One man they say is a hero but millions of his people died and suffered pyschological damage yet his own family and future generations are ok. Another man they say was a coward but none of his people died and millions got educated and lifted out of poverty. It's not rocket science!!!

AbaLion:

None of your forefathers, dead or alive, who largely were beneficiaries of Awo's educational policies, Infrastructural projects and his political structures, many of whom became relevant through his magnanimity, the entire former Midwestern appendage, who had one time fed off his great resourcefulness, would never in their lifetime troll or deride the great Awo.
From the testament of the Oba of Benin being a member of the old western regional council of Obas, across the corners of the Benin Kingdom from the occupant of the present throne to the least of the entire Edo state, are forever appreciative and indebted to the great Awo.
Your claim of being an edo indigene is very much in doubt, I suppose you are most likely a bloodline of Osu crossbreed.
*spits


-Lion

imam07:
that is what ibos have been saying. I will tell you counter coup was not housa coup also.

kjhova:


The lie about the death toll of the Nigerian Civil War has gone on for too long and has got to stop. Every respectable analysis of the war all agree on a death toll of about 1 million lives, plus or minus. All of these bandied figures of 2, 3, 4 millions really need to stop.

As for the topic, this picture epitomises all of the missed opportunities in our short history as the needless civil war could have been avoided. One can only hope that today's generation has enough sense to avert the coming conflagration.

isthatso:


you clearly do not know your histroy, Awolowo conceived OAU, it was established under Akintola who suceeded Awo. You do not conceive a university today and establish it tommorow, Government is a continium. Buhari is building standard guage railways conceived under OBJ's regime. 4th mainland bridge was conceived many years ago, they have done the design but nothing has been done. If Sanwoolu decides to actually implement it are you going to say it was his conception?

Ife was Awo's brain child, Akintola was Awo's deputy and was only following Awos vision and masterplan for the region till he defected in 1962 after Ife had been established. Ife came into being i.e was established under Akintola but I dare you to google the internet and show me any official site or official literature that credits Akintola with the "conception" of Ife.

if Akintola was that important in ife's history (not that he isnt) why is it the first 2 (and biggest) male hostels are named after Awo and Fajuyi and the hall named after Akintola (Sports hall) is a smaller hall and wasnt named after him for decades...clearly an afterthought? Why was it named sports hall for so long and not Akintola from inception? Let me tell you why, because Awo was the visionary and Fajuyi did more for Ife than Akintola. Akintola established it, that is true but he was only following Awo's blueprint and Fajuyi was the one who provided the funds and gave Oluwasanmi his marching orders for the construction of the permanent site. Oluwasanmi despite not being the pioneer VC, had the library named after him because he was effectively the architect of what Ife eventually became. Awo, Oluwasanmi, Fajuyi did more for OAU than Akintola. What Akintola did was sign the law establishing ife as the sitting Premier. The conception, the leadership, the majority funding and the execution were not done by him although like I said I acknowledge that Ife came into existence under his leadership.

Just so i am clear, Awo conceived, Akintola established, Fajuyi funded, Oluwasanmi executed.

Understand the difference between Conception and established and maybe while you are it.......get some sense!!!!

johntolu:

I am surprised you are holding a divergent view, from that held by your fathers, about Chief Awolowo's performance at the Federal government level.
Your fathers are of the belief that his singular masterstroke, as a non-military member, of the
Federal government, which he served, ended the mutiny by your fathers against the Nigerian state.
I can feel the pains and frustration of the Igbo Nation, after their misadventure of 67/70, which was brought to an end, by the tactical acumen of Chief Awolowo who, put an end to the feeding of the 'soldiers of the 'enemy of the Nigerian state.'
That singular act, according to your father's, broke the resistance of the Igbo Nation against the Nigerian state and not the guns of Muritala, The Black Scorpion or Obasanjo.

olril17:

rabble rouser who goes round in circle and end up saying same thing as I did.
University of Ife was established by S.L Akintola..
the act establishing university of Ife was passed by the western region Parliament in 1961
(so how did awo who has clearly left as premier conceived it) ... awolowo left as premier of western region in 1959..he lost out as prime minister to tafawa balewa December 1959..
amazingly akintola imprint has been wiped out and Mr awolowo is now credited for a university he never built.
l

olril17:

you are speaking nonsense...
awolowo never had anything to do with oau...its just revised history and most of u don't read.
university of Ife was conceived and established by chief S.L Akintola,premier of western region then.
all these apoda and their second hand history.

olril17:


(so how did awo who has clearly left as premier conceived it) Mr awolowo is now credited for a university he never built.
l

isthatso:


that is not what you said below is your quote:



you are clearly a bit of a dullard, you dont conceive an idea and it manifests immediately or establish the act of parliarment immediately, these things take time. there will be committees formed, discussions on feasibility, location, financing, etc before you finally come up with a plan and go ahead, that in itself can take years. it is only when you have have a detailed plan that you go ahead with the execution and the 1st phase in the execution is giving it legal identity by the act of parliarment. In fact there are many institutions in Nigeria (because of the way we do things these days) that exist before the law establishing them is passed.

The discussion was about conception, you are the one who introduced established into the equation clearly not understanding the difference.

admit you were wrong and stop trying to be clever by halves



You contradict yourself, make a fool of yourself with what you wrote and you still do not realise your folly. I suggest you go to Ife and take refresher courses in English as the above clearly shows you have a problem understanding the English language.


Let's say i decide I want to embark on a family project to document my family history and build a family monument and record for future generations, I discuss the idea in detail with my son so he understands what i am trying to acheive, I am not able to build it while I am alive, after I die my son starts and completes it. is it my son that conceived it? you fool!!!!