dayokanu:

Principle of cowardice by running away from the war front and leaving the followers to die?

Ojukwu left at the end of the war, after all the Biafran leaders have agreed to cease fire.

Principles like coming back and joining the same Hausa elites he fought against in NPN.

In the spirit of the new one Nigeria, Ojukwu came back and joined NPN which had prominent Igbo sons like Ekwueme and Chuba Okadigbo.

Principles like getting back his own military entitlements and properties back and leaving soldiers who fought for his cause to wallow and die in poverty.

Typical fabrications of Yoruba haters.  The Biafra cause was a collective fight; ndigbo fought for their cause, and not for Ojukwu. As a leader, he answered the clarion call of his people who wanted him to lead the struggle.
Also, Ojukwu got back his fathers properties because he is rightfully and legitimately entitled to it. And so did many other Igbos .

Principles that includes supporting IBB a man who fought and killed Biafrans and Now going to Nssuka, Enugu and owerri to tell people to vote for a man who killed their grandafathers, fathers, uncles and aunties.

Warped Yoruba reasoning!!! I know you yoruba haters won't like to hear that in the SouthEast, IBB is more beloved than any other Nigeria past leaders. . . . .  You even tried to invoke the animosities of the civil war, while forgetting that both sides killed each others people;while forgetting that the Southern neighbour of Biafra, Yorubas, played a more heinous role than the North.

Which one is Yoruba selfish cause here? Is it asking Ojukwu to fight for neglected Biafran soldiers who were punished for following his command? Wetin concern Yoruba interest there?

Many Biafran soldiers recieved their entitlements as Ojukwu did. Ojukwu doesn't need to commit suicide like Awolowo for you to know that he has been speaking for Biafran soldiers who fought the Igbo cause.

You Yoruba haters will keep on ranting ranting ranting ranting ranting ranting ranting like rabies infested dogs; Ojukwu won't give a hoot about you bunch of cowards and saboteurs. The treacherous antecedents of you swines, which was emblematic of Awolowo's ignominious life, are well engraved in the minds of Ndigbo

[b]Principle of cowardice by running away from the war front and leaving the followers to die?

Principles like coming back and joining the same Hausa elites he fought against in NPN.

Principles like getting back his own military entitlements and properties back and leaving soldiers who fought for his cause to wallow and die in poverty.

Principles that includes supporting IBB a man who fought and killed Biafrans and Now going to Nssuka, Enugu and owerri to tell people to vote for a man who killed their grandafathers, fathers, uncles and aunties.

Which one is Yoruba selfish cause here? Is it asking Ojukwu to fight for neglected Biafran soldiers who were punished for following his command? Wetin concern Yoruba interest there?
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We fight to become friends and not permanent enemies, the devil u know is better than the angel u dont know! The igbos and the northerners have become friends bc we now understand ourselves unlike the betrayal/backstabbing yoribas whom we can neva trust anymore bc of their tribalistic tendencies.

We fought, lost and were welcomed back into Nigeria by Gowon Govt, but the Most tribalistic Mo.ron on the face of the earth approved £25 as d amount to be given every igboman from his bank account after the war, what a wicked act!!! Not only did we lose lives, properties etc, we also lost our monies and hopes of getting back to life was dashed by the idi.ot's pronouncement. Today where is he (awolowo)? He committed suicide inside his closet, what an unfinished greatness of a tribalist!

[[b]b][b]Principle of cowardice by running away from the war front and leaving the followers to die?

Principles like coming back and joining the same Hausa elites he fought against in NPN.

Principles like getting back his own military entitlements and properties back and leaving soldiers who fought for his cause to wallow and die in poverty.

Principles that includes supporting IBB a man who fought and killed Biafrans and Now going to Nssuka, Enugu and owerri to tell people to vote for a man who killed their grandafathers, fathers, uncles and aunties.

Which one is Yoruba selfish cause here? Is it asking Ojukwu to fight for neglected Biafran soldiers who were punished for following his command? Wetin concern Yoruba interest there?
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We fight to become friends and not permanent enemies,  the devil u know is better than the angel u dont know! The igbos and the northerners have become friends bc we now understand ourselves unlike the betrayal/backstabbing yoribas whom we can neva trust anymore bc of their tribalistic tendencies.

We fought, lost and were welcomed back into Nigeria by Gowon Govt, but the Most tribalistic Mo.ron on the face of the earth approved £25 as d amount to be given every igboman from his bank account after the war, what a wicked act!!! Not only did we lose lives, properties etc, we also lost our monies and hopes of getting back to life was dashed by the idi.ot's pronouncement. Today where is he (awolowo)? He committed suicide inside his closet, what an unfinished greatness of a tribalist!

Arysexy:

[[b]b][b]
We fight to become friends and not permanent enemies, the devil u know is better than the angel u dont know! The igbos and the northerners have become friends bc we now understand ourselves unlike the betrayal/backstabbing yoribas whom we can neva trust anymore bc of their tribalistic tendencies.

We fought, lost and were welcomed back into Nigeria by Gowon Govt, but the Most tribalistic Mo.ron on the face of the earth approved £25 as d amount to be given every igboman from his bank account after the war, what a wicked act!!! Not only did we lose lives, properties etc, we also lost our monies and hopes of getting back to life was dashed by the idi.ot's pronouncement. [b]Today where is he (awolowo)? He committed suicide inside his closet, what an unfinished greatness of a tribalist!

Thank you very much for this post. . . . Some Yoruba cowards here want ndigbo to forget the ignominious and treacherous roles they played during the war by reminding us that IBB is a Northerner, while forgetting that a Southerner that fought against Biafra is more dangerous.

metalGo0g:

Thank you very much for this post. . . . Some Yoruba cowards here want ndigbo to forget the ignominious and treacherous roles they played during the war by reminding us that IBB is a Northerner, while forgetting that a Southerner that fought against Biafra is more dangerous.

I have to admit, even Geobbels would have been proud of you. But the truth is the truth, no matter how unplesant it may be. Ojukwu was a wuss and probably still is. He was an Ajebota General who took ibos on a dangerous joyride.

The Yorubas don't care what you forget or what you choose to remember, it's your choice.

Anyway, I heard he ran away wearing an aerodynamic skirt, designed for maximum speed. Is it true?

metalGo0g:

Ojukwu won't give a hoot about you bunch of cowards and saboteurs

Maybe he should give a hoot about Biafran soldiers currently rolling in the grave as he repeatedly sells his birthright for pottage.

birdman:

Maybe he should give a hoot about Biafran soldiers currently rolling in the grave as he repeatedly sells his birthright for pottage.

First of all, Igbos are very proud of Ojukwu; he had sacrificed alot for the Igbo cause more than any body. We dont need to see his dead body before acknowledging that, although thats the wish of you haters.

Wherever the Biafran soldiers/heroes are presently living, they all are very proud of their altruistic act during the civil war. They didn't fight for Ojukwu, but for Ndigbo. . . . .  So you Yoruba cowards should get this into your addleheads that Ndigbo collectively fought for what they believed in, and not for their belly as Awolowo(and other Yorubas) did with Gowon.

metalGo0g:

First of all, Igbos are very proud of Ojukwu; he had sacrificed alot for the Igbo cause more than any body. We dont need to see his dead body before acknowledging that, although thats the wish of you haters.

Wherever the Biafran soldiers/heroes are presently living, they all are very proud of their altruistic act during the civil war. They didn't fight for Ojukwu, but for Ndigbo. . . . .  So you Yoruba cowards should get this into your addleheads that Ndigbo collectively fought for what they believed in, and not for their belly as Awolowo(and other Yorubas) did with Gowon.

Funny how the tone of your post suddenly mellows  . PDP (North) had to fight to get a foothold in the West. Even then Obasanjo showed them pepper. The "brave" East scrambled to give themselves away. Look at a whole Soludo! Then look at a brave Fasola. The scary knowledge of the real truth is evident in your post. You are everything you accuse others of.

It is funny how you throw the word coward around, considering none of "yall" could be found when Abacha was painting the country red. Thank God for the Ganis, Soyinkas and Adesanyas who risked almost certain assasination. About 15 years after, now, you get mouth to talk

Ikemba's cowardice and tribalism were evident when he literally kissed Abacha's butt and renounced support for an election his own people participated in, because the winner was Yoruba. No wonder Awo refused to go to war with the "ambitious young man"! In his wisdom, he could read the treachery on the face of the future bloviating Ikemba. The only thing greater than his spinelesness was his greed, and he went to war anyways, taking the Igbo nation down with him. _{(Actually, he got back up and left everyone else still down, but hey, )}

Now he's selling his soul to the devil that is behind 90% of the problems in the last 20 yrs, and you support him? He has probably bought his mansion in UK already, and will jet out (again) once things get too hot. Braaaaave Ikemba.

birdman:

Maybe he should give a hoot about Biafran soldiers currently rolling in the grave as he repeatedly sells his birthright for pottage.

Someone must die during war. Why are u people talking about Igbos and tribalism ruling u guys here, we all need good man as president not if Hausa, Igbo or Yoruba. How about other Nigerians?

Ujukwu has not idcated his spport to Ibb he only said that every nigerian has a riht to elect & b elected and i agreed with him
people whoave been criticii this man shouldrealise that as a mature man talking with someone or accepting his visit has not indicated his support for him, he only displayed level of maturity he possesed. you need not to attack someone physically, I believe ojukwu knows what he was doing and has not come out to declare his support to ibb candidacy rather he has displayed a high level of maturity. stop blaming him.

Guys this sectarian discussion is leading nobody no where.

The present issues are we have elections coming up and aspirants are emerging.

Let's talk about why Ojukwu would support IBB again.
I would be glad to be educated in that regarded.

People have not realised that fuel queues are a thing of recent past thanks to GEJ.
Power sector is getting reorganised hopefully for better.

Some might argue that these are ploys to deceive us into supporting (or voting) for GEJ.
This is a healthier form of deception at worst.

Except you do not believe that Nigeria should remain as one please drop the sectarianism on these threads to enhance the communication value of the discussions on this and other threads.

Ojukwu had not in anyway supported IBB in his speech.
Rather, he was open to say his destiny lies with the electorate.
If the electorate says through pole that IBB should be there for 16 years, so be it.

Now, has the electorate said so? NO.

I can't see anyway Ojukwu had to be faulted.
Rather, I see posters who gives Subjects that is miles away from the content.

Back to Presidential ambition of IBB. My vote goes to GEJ or RIBADU.

birdman:

Funny how the tone of your post suddenly mellows  . PDP (North) had to fight to get a foothold in the West. Even then Obasanjo showed them pepper. The "brave" East scrambled to give themselves away. Look at a whole Soludo! Then look at a brave Fasola. The scary knowledge of the real truth is evident in your post. You are everything you accuse others of.

In this paragraph, you mentioned the name of OBJ, Soludo and Fashola with out making an iota of sense . .  Guy are you ok?

It is funny how you throw the word coward around, considering none of "yall" could be found when Abacha was painting the country red. Thank God for the Ganis, Soyinkas and Adesanyas who risked almost certain assasination. About 15 years after, now, you get mouth to talk

It is only the dictionary of yoruba people that equates the blustering of wimps to bravery. When Ekwueme and his G34 members were busy holding series of anti-millitary meetings, yoruba wusses were no where to be found. But when Ekwueme and his group had succeeded, and later metamorphosed into PDP, a yoruba man came on board and gave Nigerians a democratic government worse than that of a millitary regime.

Ikemba's cowardice and tribalism were evident when he literally kissed Abacha's butt and renounced support for an election his own people participated in, because the winner was Yoruba. No wonder Awo refused to go to war with the "ambitious young man"! In his wisdom, he could read the treachery on the face of the future bloviating Ikemba. The only thing greater than his spinelesness was his greed, and he went to war anyways, taking the Igbo nation down with him. _{(Actually, he got back up and left everyone else still down, but hey, )}

The bolded is just the beginning . Any Igbo man supporting treacherous people like the yorubas should have himself to be blamed. The evil antecedents of you yorubas (Awolowo as the leader) are well known to all, dating from the Western Assembly election, the civil war and till this day.
Also you guys have been propagating these fable stories about Igbos being behind, whereas the records show otherwise. Maybe you should check JAMB statistics, and you will see that Igbos are well ahead of you loudmouths in University enrollment. Also check the income per capita statistics, you will shamefully admit that except Lagos state ( which have a large proportion of Igbos), other yoruba states are broke poo holes.

Now he's selling his soul to the devil that is behind 90% of the problems in the last 20 yrs, and you support him? He has probably bought his mansion in UK already, and will jet out (again) once things get too hot. Braaaaave Ikemba.

Why won't you blame IBB  for all Nigeria's problem, and then exclude your kleptomaniac  brother, OBJ, who has more dismal record . . .  
Bloody traitors!!
Also, Ojukwu has not even endorsed anybody. If you are comprehensible enough, go back and re- read the interview. Therein, you will see how he answered the question intelligently and maturely as a principled man.  Ojukwu is not Awolowo who always think about his stomach; the wealth Awolowo amassed during his stint as finance minister says all about his greediness and selfish ambition.

The title is decieving, the moderators should know that some people does not have time to read the content of a thread, they only read the title. So let them make sure that the title of the thread reflect the message it is conveying.
Because from the thread, I did not see any where Ojukwu indicated support for IBB. Moderators please lets do it right.

jahrule:

Ujukwu has not idcated his spport to Ibb he only said that every nigerian has a riht to elect & b elected and i agreed with him
people whoave been criticii this man shouldrealise that as a mature man talking with someone or accepting his visit has not indicated his support for him, he only displayed level of maturity he possesed. you need not to attack someone physically, I believe ojukwu knows what he was doing and has not come out to declare his support to ibb candidacy rather he has displayed a high level of maturity. stop blaming him.

The thing tire me self, I don't understand the way some people reason.

Political moves mschewww

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@metalgong

I don't understand ur rantings, doesn't really click, i have nothing against the igbo's, my mum is igbo, what i'm trying to say is that the igbo elites have always been the down fall of the igbo's, and that's the bottom line, take a look at other regions when it comes to something that they really believe in their elites close ranks, but it's never d case with the igbos, WHY ?,here is a so-called igbo leader who knows his region wants to have a shot at the presidency at 2015 even the idiot IBB is trying to sell that as a bait to them even if we know he won't give them and Ojukwu is busy canvassing for the man to go for 16 years so far his senses are ok, so if IBB's sense are ok for the next 30 years its okay with the Ikemba for IBB to go on, c'mon man no one in Nigeria are your enemies than yourselves, that's your supposed leader saying this and your here singing his praises, you would be worse than him then, no offence, haba man you should be there condemning his words not here abusing every tribe, you feel the south-south region betrayed you? go ask them what treatment was meted out to them during the eastern region days and you'd understand why the south-south would rather align with the north than the east and you'd understand why they rather die than be in biafra, what Ojukwu should be canvassing for is a leader that's gonna put the igbo's as priority than canvassing for an insincere man like IBB, if IBB could play the whole nation and shift post of his transition for years who are the igbos for him not to do that to them, does he have anything to loose if he doesn't honour his words to them, please know your leaders and know your enemies, your enemy might just be you.

babasoty:

@metalgong

I don't understand your rantings, doesn't really click, i have nothing against the igbo's, my mum is igbo,[b] what i'm trying to say is that the igbo elites have always been the down fall of the igbo's, and that's the bottom line, take a look at other regions when it comes to something that they really believe in their elites close ranks, but it's never d case with the igbos, WHY ?,here is a so-called igbo leader who knows his region wants to have a shot at the presidency at 2015 even the IBB is trying to sell that as a bait to them even if we know he won't give them and Ojukwu is busy canvassing for the man to go for 16 year[/b]s so far his senses are ok, so if IBB's sense are ok for the next 30 years its okay with the Ikemba for IBB to go on, c'mon man no one in Nigeria are your enemies than yourselves, that's your supposed leader saying this and your here singing his praises, you would be worse than him then, no offence, haba man you should be there condemning his words not here abusing every tribe, you feel the south-south region betrayed you? go ask them what treatment was meted out to them during the eastern region days and you'd understand why the south-south would rather align with the north than the east and you'd understand why they rather die than be in biafra, what Ojukwu should be canvassing for is a leader that's gonna put the igbo's as priority than canvassing for an insincere man like IBB, if IBB could play the whole nation and shift post of his transition for years who are the igbos for him not to do that to them, does he have anything to loose if he doesn't honour his words to them, please know your leaders and know your enemies, your enemy might just be you.

What the fucck are you rambling, are you with your senses at all? . . .  We are talking about reality and you are telling me that your mother is Igbo. Who cares about where she comes from. The fact is that you are not Igbo; it is your types that are used to infiltrate the Igbos.

Where did you read that Ojukwu has endorsed IBB, talk more of canvassing extra 16 yrs for him. . . Or are you just venting your normal frustrations because Igbos detest aligning with your treacherous tribe.

Also can you tell us exactly one thing Yorubas had believed in, and their elites closed ranks to pursue it. . . The truth is that they never believed in anything except amala politics , as cowards, they always take the easy route.  . . .  There is no struggle greater than the Biafra cause, which Igbo elites were fully involved.

In this up coming election, majority of Igbos will vote for the candidate that gives them the best deal, even if that candidate is IBB. No amount of Yoruba propaganda can influence the decision.

What the fucck are you rambling, are you with your senses at all? . . . We are talking about reality and you are telling me that your mother is Igbo. Who cares about where she comes from. The fact is that you are not Igbo; it is your types that are used to infiltrate the Igbos.

Where did you read that Ojukwu has endorsed IBB, talk more of canvassing extra 16 yrs for him. . . Or are you just venting your normal frustrations because Igbos detest aligning with your treacherous tribe.

Also can you tell us exactly one thing Yorubas had believed in, and their elites closed ranks to pursue it. . . The truth is that they never believed in anything except amala politics , as cowards, they always take the easy route. . . . There is no struggle greater than the Biafra cause, which Igbo elites were fully involved.

In this up coming election, majority of Igbos will vote for the candidate that gives them the best deal, even if that candidate is IBB. No amount of Yoruba propaganda can influence the decision.

I believe you came out here arguing your points based on the topic of the thread, if you did then i guess you read the thread and i also believe you read all the highlighted parts of the posters thread, I'm not here to trade words with you, you can banter with the poster of the thread for highlighting the part of the 16 years, man you can't eat your cake and have it, you can't cry biafran cause and pursue the presidency of nigeria, mba oge nwe ichi, e no fit get head, nigeria is not biafra and biafra is not nigeria, funny enough your elites have seen this that's why they won't touch Uwaziruike with a long pole, tell me how many of them are crying out biafra, ziltch none only folks like you who never experienced the harrows of war would, i'm not yourba but sometimes i give them credit for some skills of theirs, remember 2003 inspite of being in different parties and AD having the bulk of the western states, what did they do? closed ranks and supported OBJ without presenting a presidential aspirant, that's what the igbo elites would never do, are you seeing the pattern here again, the northern contestants not wanting to loose out are closing ranks agreeing to step down for a single candidate, IBB,Atiku,Saraki can you see that, the Igbo's would never do that, your elites would never that was why they all lost out to OBJ in the presidential primaries of 2003 instead of closing ranks and choosing one person they all wanted to go for it, word of advice don't go telling your elites about biafra they'd laugh in your face, you wanna bet go tell Ojukwu of biafra he'd ask you when you were born.

After reading some of the stupid and ignorant posts here it has become apparent that mental hospitals also give patients Internet access. Why are some of you wailing about the fact that Ojukwu has lost his damn mindIBB has never been bought to book for his crimes (him and many others) so how anyone with half a brain cell would even bother meeting with him is beyond belief.

^^^^ they might take it hard with you and get all nasty, r u ready for it

Don't get upset with mad people I just pity them. This is not even a tribe thing it's common sense.

LadyT,

Easy o . Dont get upset

Ojukwu and Ibb should go and sleep. We want Jonathan. The common Igbo man will vote for Jonathan. IBB should stop wasting his ill gotten money by his political campaign because my dog will have more votes than him if my dog declares it's own presidential aspiration.

Let's talk about why Ojukwu would support IBB again.
I would be glad to be educated in that regarded

This I also thought was the basic of discussion before some individual went off point with Tribalism jabs

Honestly the whole essence is that we don’t want another term of misrule not to now talk of 16years of such!

Luckily we were all alive and old enough thru the 8 f.u,c,k years IBB rule. Now for a leader to come out (AND INSPITE OF EVENTS/HAPPENING AND NEEDS OF THE CITIZERY THAT ARE LACKING AND OBVIOUS TO ALL THAT IT IS) have the statement credited to him is bad enough by now we should do away with tribalism and face reality, that is if it is an igbo man that can rule and perform by God so be it , if it is a Yoruba man/ijaw/ igala or hausa so be it but not the M.A.D M.A.N called IBB. Or his brother O.B.J
This am sure is what practically what 80% of the populace want and stop allowing them divide us with the issue of tribalism/ethnicity

@ Lady T you speak my mind and sincerely is just the truth Y WOULD HE?

you can never trust ojukwu, we all witnessed what he did during Abachas regime, who was governments witness at sarowiwa killing?

Now Nigeria is poised to deliver free & fair elections, cows, groundnuts and tomatoes will no longer be counted as human beings of voting age in the north.
The Hausas or Fulanis (whatever the difference) are not better educated than the Ibos and the Yorubas to appreciate better, the political and economic advantage of 'real' population. Islam that encourages multiple wives up to four to one man, not-withstanding.
It boils down to the fact that the Hausa and/or Fulani are/is congenitally dubious and dishonest. Otherwise, why would anyone that feels to come from the North, exhibit so much impunity to arrogate so much deciding status to the north in terms of political fate of Nigeria? Who are they to think no other major (even minor) Nigerian of a different extraction can aspire and win election of President of Nigeria without their support? This is one of the illusions that make them place themselves above all other tribe in the political equation of this country.
For your information: It will be difficult to relinquish power back to the North henceforth. All Northerners clamoring for Presidency are just being noisy. Thirty six years out of Nigeria's fifty years have been wasted by Northerners. It is time to balance the lop-sidedness. Northerners can go to Niger-Republic or Chad (which of course, is there roots) and try hoodwink their progenitors over there with this fallacious theory of theirs.

Ibos and Yorubas must rule this country as they like until the tripod is balanced. The minority tribes alike. It is time for GEAJ. And he will rule for eight years wether this sinks well with you or not. Even on a level playground, GEAJ will still win the combination of IBB, Buhari and Atiku, by the books, hook or crook! Nigeria today is no longer Nigeria of yester-years. Nigeria is not owned by the northerners and your take home: every southerner you see supporting a northerner in the present political dispensation is there to get back some of the national cash looted by these unscrupulous northerners. He/she is not there because of the whimsical disposition of giving-back in 2015. There will be no vacancy in 2015. Take note of this and stop fooling around with your crazy Northern might. Go back to your pyramids and forget Presidency until it's gone round all the geopolitical zones of Nigeria for 36 years each. And you know what this means-The North must wait for 110 years to have Presidency return back to them!

babasoty:

I believe you came out here arguing your points based on the topic of the thread, if you did then i guess you read the thread and i also believe you read all the highlighted parts of the posters thread, I'm not here to trade words with you, you can banter with the poster of the thread for highlighting the part of the 16 years, man you can't eat your cake and have it, you can't cry biafran cause and pursue the presidency of nigeria, mba oge nwe ichi, e no fit get head, nigeria is not biafra and biafra is not nigeria, funny enough your elites have seen this that's why they won't touch Uwaziruike with a long pole, tell me how many of them are crying out biafra, ziltch none only folks like you who never experienced the harrows of war would, i'm not yourba but sometimes i give them credit for some skills of theirs, [b]remember 2003 inspite of being in different parties and AD having the bulk of the western states, what did they do? closed ranks and supported OBJ without presenting a presidential aspir[/b]ant, that's what the igbo elites would never do, are you seeing the pattern here again, the northern contestants not wanting to loose out are closing ranks agreeing to step down for a single candidate, IBB,Atiku,Saraki can you see that, the Igbo's would never do that, your elites would never that was why they all lost out to OBJ in the presidential primaries of 2003 instead of closing ranks and choosing one person they all wanted to go for it, word of advice don't go telling your elites about biafra they'd laugh in your face, you wanna bet go tell Ojukwu of biafra he'd ask you when you were born.

Another round of the usual Yoruba rambling . . . .  You didnt even address any of the questions I raised in my previous post. . . ,

You tried to use the 2003 presidential election charade as the only instance where yorubas closed rank; but you ignorantly or deliberately failed to tell the world that OBJ got the least percentage of votes in the SouthWest,despite all his rigging efforts.     
Is this the only example you loudmouth have been bragging about? . .

Please come back with a sharp retort or keep mute whenever you see any news relating to Ndigbo. You aint smart enough to advise them.