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Re: I'm Confused. by Shepherd00: 1:08pm On May 16
OpenYourEyes1:

Yes
Oh.
So, what changed your perception?
Re: I'm Confused. by Shepherd00: 1:18pm On May 16
LordReed:


Cockroach go and sleep before I squash you with my slippers.
See this maggot. You couldn't kill the literal cockroach in your dingy apartment, yet you could crush me. lol.

You spend every minute of your miserable life in Nairaland roaming from thread to thread trying to span away your misery. By all means you need someone to engage you so that you could drawn your misery.
I hope you don't kill yourself.

Get a life twerp. I have no time to spare on a manticore.
Re: I'm Confused. by Shepherd00: 1:28pm On May 16
OLAADEGBU:


If you ask her where she works and she tells you but you again retort that "I don't believe that either" and you carry on like that don't be surprised if you get a dirty slap. shocked
Ola, you are helping that child drown his depression. He wakes and sleeps in Nairaland looking for someone who'd engage him so that he can keep busy by insulting his ancestors.

Ignore the kid.
Re: I'm Confused. by LordReed(m): 1:35pm On May 16
Shepherd00:

See this maggot. You couldn't kill the literal cockroach in your dingy apartment, yet you could crush me. lol.

You spend every minute of your miserable life in Nairaland roaming from thread to thread trying to span away your misery. By all means you need someone to engage you so that you could drawn your misery.
I hope you don't kill yourself.

Get a life twerp. I have no time to spare on a manticore.

You insignificant arsehole, was it not you who came to this thread to ease your miserable roach like existence? Projection much stupido?

Fūck you and the motherfūcking high horse you rode in on, dumbfūck christian hypocrite.
Re: I'm Confused. by LordReed(m): 1:37pm On May 16
Shepherd00:

Ola, you are helping that child drawn his depression. He wakes and sleeps in Nairaland looking for someone who'd engage him so that he can keep busy by insulting his ancestors.

Ignore the kid.

Look at your miserable roach existence on full display here. Stupido.
Re: I'm Confused. by Shepherd00: 1:49pm On May 16
LordReed:


You insignificant arsehole, was it not you who came to this thread to ease your miserable roach like existence? Projection much stupido?

Fūck you and the motherfūcking high horse you rode in on, dumbfūck christian hypocrite.
See how acidic you are. try not to choke on that Codeine, you waste of sperms.
Re: I'm Confused. by LordReed(m): 2:54pm On May 16
Shepherd00:

See how acidic you are. try not to choke on that Codeine, you waste of sperms.


Dumbfūck Christian hypocrite keep showing us how much of a hypocrite you are. Dimwit.
Re: I'm Confused. by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:18pm On May 16
LordReed:


There is no evidence that there is any being called almighty god, we are still waiting to be convinced otherwise.

Creation is evidence for the existence of God. It is scientifically impossible for nature to make itself. See Romans 1:20-24. You are without excuse now and will be on Judgment Day, if you are without a Saviour.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 2 June 2017 at 14:00 ·

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Re: I'm Confused. by LordReed(m): 9:20pm On May 16
OLAADEGBU:


Creation is evidence for the existence of God. It is scientifically impossible for nature to make itself. See Romans 1:20-24. You are without excuse now and will be on Judgment Day, if you are without a Saviour.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 2 June 2017 at 14:00 ·

It is not evidence for a creator simply because you assert it as such.
Re: I'm Confused. by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:17am On May 17
LordReed:


It is not evidence for a creator simply because you assert it as such.

Are you then saying it is scientifically possible that nature created itself? undecided

Re: I'm Confused. by LordReed(m): 6:33am On May 17
OLAADEGBU:


Are you then saying it is scientifically possible that nature created itself? undecided

I am saying you should provide proof that your specific brand of god created the universe.
Re: I'm Confused. by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:36am On May 18
LordReed:


I am saying you should provide proof that your specific brand of god created the universe.

I praise God that I've been able to get you to believe that the universe was created and that it did not create itself.
Re: I'm Confused. by LordReed(m): 10:38am On May 18
OLAADEGBU:


I praise God that I've been able to get you to believe that the universe was created and that it did not create itself. cool

Don't get ahead of yourself, I believe no such thing.
Re: I'm Confused. by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:41am On May 18
LordReed:


Don't get ahead of yourself, I believe no such thing.

If you want to know who this Creator God is you will have to have faith in Him for without faith it is impossible to please Him; for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him (Hebrews 11:6).
Re: I'm Confused. by LordReed(m): 10:46am On May 18
OLAADEGBU:


If you want to know who this Creator God is you will have to have faith in Him for without faith it is impossible to please Him; for he that comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him (Hebrews 11:6).

So you admit there is no evidence for your god other than faith?
Re: I'm Confused. by asalimpo(m): 11:31am On May 18
Kingpee2:
The truth you need has been revealed to you ,bro being an atheist shouldn’t stop you from believing that there is God somewhere even if we don’t know which one he is ,i’d Suggest you stick to praying more and more since you’ve noticed that whenever she prays you get better ,I don’t have any biblical scriptures or from quran to give to you,just accept that there’s God,it takes nothing away from you,don’t risk that chance of being ignorant ,I’d stick to whatever heals me when I need the healing,don’t die in silence when you already found the truth,your being confused is literally based on your stubbornness and hatred towards anything called religion,there’s definitely a God we just don’t know exactly who is right between Christians and Muslims but I know there’s a God somewhere ....

how can he b an atheist and believe that there is God? (as they used to say back in the days) You smoke sh*t?
Re: I'm Confused. by asalimpo(m): 11:40am On May 18
stefanbanach:
I'll make it short. I first left Christianity in 2011. It didn't make sense to me. I became an atheist and took a deep dive into the world of philosophy. Last year, I was diagnosed with a life threatening disease. I have spent money trying to get my health back but no way. I have severally gotten to the point where humans cross to the other side but for some unknown reason, I'm still alive.

January this year, the sickness worsened. It paralysed me and made me useless. I struggled to get good healthcare because I couldn't work for money due to my bad health. I resigned and decided to be patient for death. I called a few foes, made peace and prepared myself for death by reading books on nihilism and absurdism, fantasising about the blissful state of non-existence.


One day, a concerned neighbour came to my apartment, she is very much aware of my irreligious nature. She asked to pray for me. Me I no send am because I don follow people pray tire. I told her I was not interested. She told me that I only need to close my eyes and say amen. I reluctantly agreed. She laid hands on me and prayed. After she prayed, I felt different. I started breathing properly, My palms and underneath my feet which were always white as snow became red due to the inflow of blood (there's poor circulation of blood in my body). I was shocked. I couldn't believe it. I spent my whole night questioning the rationale behind the incident. I was able to walk and do my morning exercise the following day and afterwards. The lady told me to go back to God. I decided to give it a try. I went to her church just once and stopped.

Months later, The problem returned. I hadn't gotten a job and I needed money to get medications. I became depressed. My sickness worsened due to anxiety. As usual, I prepared for death.

This night she came again and prayed. Now I feel better.

The point of this writeup is, I'm running mad here. What is happening? I've read tons of books on organised religion and I detest religion. But I recognise the need for man to seek spirituality.

What is going on with me? What is special about that lady? Can anybody give me a concrete explanation for this? Does this woman have the special gift of healing? I'm not a fan of the mysterious.
if you dont believe in God and are sincerely confused,pray sincerely to God to reveal Himself to you,if He truly exists.
The bible says that God is not willing that any1 should perish but that all should come to repentance nd the knowledge of the truth. God is giving you a second chance to come to Him,if you keep rejecting Him, you'll squander your chances and have yourself to blame. So act fast.
Re: I'm Confused. by CAPSLOCKED: 11:40am On May 18
LordReed:


So you admit there is no evidence for your god other than faith?

ONLY FAITH. "WE WORK BY FAITH". THEY WANT US TO HAVE FAITH IN ORDER TO MEET THIS ALMIGHTY.. BECAUSE IT'S NOT A REAL THING.
REAL THINGS LIKE THE SUN AND TREES, HUMANS AND LOVE CAN BE SEEN AND FELT, WITH ZERO FAITH REQUIRED.

THEY WANT US TO HAVE FAITH IN ORDER TO GET THINGS FROM GOD. BUT THEY COLLECT OUR MONEY DIRECTLY IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS AND COLLECTION BAGS, FOR THIS THEY DON'T INVOLVE FAITH. HAHAHA

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Re: I'm Confused. by CAPSLOCKED: 11:43am On May 18
asalimpo:

if you dont believe in God and are sincerely confused,pray sincerely to God to reveal Himself to you,if He truly exists.

The bible says that God is not willing that any1 should perish but that all should come to repentance nd the knowledge of the truth. God is giving you a second chance to come to Him,if you keep rejecting Him, you'll squander your chances and have yourself to blame. So act fast.
FOR GOD TO REVEAL HIMSELF OR NOT SHOULD STRICTLY BE BY HIS WILL.

WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO PRAY TO TELL GOD, THE ALMIGHTY, WHAT TO DO?


LOL EVERYDAY YOU PEOPLE CONFUSE ME THE MORE WITH YOUR CONFUSION.
Re: I'm Confused. by CAPSLOCKED: 11:45am On May 18
Kingpee2:
being an atheist shouldn’t stop you from believing that there is God somewhere even if we don’t know which one he is


SO MANY IGNORANT AND CONFUSED PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.

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Re: I'm Confused. by LordReed(m): 12:57pm On May 18
CAPSLOCKED:


ONLY FAITH. "WE WORK BY FAITH". THEY WANT US TO HAVE FAITH IN ORDER TO MEET THIS ALMIGHTY.. BECAUSE IT'S NOT A REAL THING.
REAL THINGS LIKE THE SUN AND TREES, HUMANS AND LOVE CAN BE SEEN AND FELT, WITH ZERO FAITH REQUIRED.

THEY WANT US TO HAVE FAITH IN ORDER TO GET THINGS FROM GOD. BUT THEY COLLECT OUR MONEY DIRECTLY IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS AND COLLECTION BAGS, FOR THIS THEY DON'T INVOLVE FAITH. HAHAHA


Abi o! There is nothing in this world we operate by faith except religion and 419.

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Re: I'm Confused. by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:08pm On May 18
LordReed:


So you admit there is no evidence for your god other than faith?

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" (Hebrews 11:1).

And if you're looking for the scientific evidence that demands God's existence then you have to be scientifically inclined to arrive at the conclusion below:

There are only three possibilities from where the universe can come from. By way of elimination we will arrive at the scientific evidence of the origin of the universe which took just 6 days.

(1). The universe created itself; or

(2). The universe has always existed, or

(3). The universe was created.

1. The universe created itself:

Can something create itself? Can nothing create something? The answer to these is an absolute No. We all know that something cannot create itself and nothing can't create something. From Latin we have the phrase "ex nihilo, nihil fit" meaning "from nothing, nothing comes." It also violates the law of cause and effect, that says for every effect there must be a cause. The effect can't be greater than the cause and nothing cannot be greater than something. Therefore, based on the laws of science and logic, the universe couldn't have created itself. That leaves us with options 2 and 3.

2. The univese has always existed:

Lets go to the 2nd law of thermodynamics that basically teaches that "the whole universe is losing usable energy for doing usable work." This means that the usable energy in this universe is wearing down. The universe as a whole is losing energy. In other words, molecules as a whole are slowing down.

Therefore, if this universe was eternal we will be in what is called a "virtual heat death." This means that there will be virtually no molecular movement. Everything would have lost its available heat energy for doing work. Therefore, the universe cannot be eternal, it must have had a beginning. The theory that the universe has always existed or is eternal has to be false based on the law of science and logic, another speculation gone with the air. This leaves us with only one possibility based on science. Which is that:

3. The universe was created:

"In the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth." -- Genesis 1:1

Science confirms the biblical verse that in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth as we have just shown. With this verse we see that God is outside time. He is eternal, with no beginning or end. He also knows all things, being infinitely intelligent. To recognise His handiwork, you should be able to know how to recognise the evidence of the works of His intelligence. This is simple.

When I look at a building, how do I know that there was a builder? I can't see him, hear him, touch, smell or taste him. The evidence of a builder is the building I'm looking at. In other words, the building is the proof positive that there was a builder. The building is the product of the intelligence of the builder. Living things are also evidence of design. Wouldn't it be logical to assume that if man's highly intelligent brain designed the computer, then the human brain was also the product of design?

There is nothing illogical or unscientific about an Eternal Being who has always existed. Nobody created the infinite God. He is the Self-Existent One, the great "I AM THAT I AM" of the Bible. He is outside time because He created time. Everything that has a beginning requires a cause. The universe has a beginning and thus requires a cause. But the almighty God has no beginning since He is beyond time. Therefore, the almighty God does not need a cause. (See more on answersingenesis.org )
Re: I'm Confused. by Evangkatsoulis: 9:53pm On May 18
stefanbanach:
I'll make it short. I first left Christianity in 2011. It didn't make sense to me. I became an atheist and took a deep dive into the world of philosophy. Last year, I was diagnosed with a life threatening disease. I have spent money trying to get my health back but no way. I have severally gotten to the point where humans cross to the other side but for some unknown reason, I'm still alive.

January this year, the sickness worsened. It paralysed me and made me useless. I struggled to get good healthcare because I couldn't work for money due to my bad health. I resigned and decided to be patient for death. I called a few foes, made peace and prepared myself for death by reading books on nihilism and absurdism, fantasising about the blissful state of non-existence.


One day, a concerned neighbour came to my apartment, she is very much aware of my irreligious nature. She asked to pray for me. Me I no send am because I don follow people pray tire. I told her I was not interested. She told me that I only need to close my eyes and say amen. I reluctantly agreed. She laid hands on me and prayed. After she prayed, I felt different. I started breathing properly, My palms and underneath my feet which were always white as snow became red due to the inflow of blood (there's poor circulation of blood in my body). I was shocked. I couldn't believe it. I spent my whole night questioning the rationale behind the incident. I was able to walk and do my morning exercise the following day and afterwards. The lady told me to go back to God. I decided to give it a try. I went to her church just once and stopped.

Months later, The problem returned. I hadn't gotten a job and I needed money to get medications. I became depressed. My sickness worsened due to anxiety. As usual, I prepared for death.

This night she came again and prayed. Now I feel better.

The point of this writeup is, I'm running mad here. What is happening? I've read tons of books on organised religion and I detest religion. But I recognise the need for man to seek spirituality.

What is going on with me? What is special about that lady? Can anybody give me a concrete explanation for this? Does this woman have the special gift of healing? I'm not a fan of the mysterious.

make sure you fvck that girl good.

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