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Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by DonX001: 10:12am On May 11
Sunsets:
He is right about you.
Lol, you may choose to continue in self-deceit....its your fundamental human right. It doesn't change the facts.

The same way an ostrich has the right to bury its head in the sand when it sees a lion approaching, it doesn't change the fact that the lion is there.
Cheers.
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Sunsets: 10:12am On May 11
Yes, no lies about you.
x6blade:
he said no lies , don't be in denial
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Sunsets: 10:17am On May 11
Don't shed ignorant tears. Every society goes through this sort of civilization curve. It is not about the African community. Its about poverty, lack of proper education and exposure. Nothing genetic about it.
matify83:



I was moved to tears with the excerpts above.

How can someone so accurately summarize us and our future in such prophetic manner.

@op, I need this book please
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by 9jaRealist: 10:21am On May 11
DonX001:

Bros its not about racism.
Keep sentiments aside. Look at the statements critically and compare it with our general population and community (I'm not saying individuals o!), and look at our general mentality and mindset. And tell me what you see.
We need to tell ourselves the truth to be able to improve.
But I've noticed that Nigerians don't like telling ourselves the truth.
Its like an ostrich burying its head in the sand when it sees danger coming.

The very definition of racism is characterizing (usually negatively) an entire group of persons on the basis of race...

Perhaps your "truth" is different from mine and others, because most of the Africans that I PERSONALLY know definitely do not lack an ability "to visualize the future", but then again I can only speak to MY truth and not being personally privy to your own experiences, family nor the sort of Africans that you associate with, I cannot presume to invalidate your own peculiar life experiences. Suffice it nonetheless for you to bear in mind that life is NOT a homogeneous experience (with emphasis on experience)!

Meanwhile, interesting how these same Africans can emigrate abroad out of their comfort zone where they compete with others on their own home turf and routinely match or even outperform these supposedly superior races.
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Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Sunsets: 10:21am On May 11
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Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Darevofpeace(m): 10:23am On May 11
ednut1:
grin u are agreeing with him.
My point is that we should have a practical approach to solving our national problem.
Not a Late British Colonial Master labeling the whole black race bad upandan.
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Sunsets: 10:24am On May 11
God bless the day I found you.
9jaRealist:


The very definition of racism is characterizing (usually negatively) an entire group of persons on the basis of race...

Perhaps your "truth" is different from mine and others, because most of the Africans that I PERSONALLY know definitely do not lack an ability "to visualize the future", but then again I can only speak to MY truth and not being personally privy to your own experiences, family nor the sort of Africans that you associate with, I cannot presume to invalidate your own peculiar life experiences. Suffice it nonetheless for you to bear in mind that life is NOT a homogeneous experience (with emphasis on experience)!

Meanwhile, interesting how these same Africans can emigrate abroad out of their comfort zone where they compete with others on their own home turf and routinely match or even outperform these supposedly superior races.
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Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Khaleell001: 10:26am On May 11
Ijaycool:
Nonsense!

Petrol is easier to get than electricity in this country.
You will need petrol to generate electricity.
The scenario will be...
Buy electric car.
Buy generator.
Buy Petrol.
Charge your car.
Buy Petrol.
Charge your car.

Same old song.
What a pathetic sh*thole

And you think petrol is the only source of generating electricity?
Please, do your research and see that anything relating to oil that causes pollution is gradually and quickly being phased out.

We have wind, solar, hydro and thermal source of generating electricity.
So, I am wondering where your argument comes in?.
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by anthony86(m): 10:29am On May 11
Whether Nigeria likes it or not 2025 tokunbo cars we import that run on diesel will be scarce to find. It will be cheaper importing electric cars by then the sense to give Nigerians steady electricity will hit the government.
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Khaleell001: 10:30am On May 11
JMK9600:
Even without the ban by the senate, electricity distribution companies will ban the use of electric cars. With the way our electric system is dancing awilo. Abegiiiii

That is not even the point.
This increase in electric cars in most of these countries will mean little or no patronage for our oil from these countries who will be running on electric cars and will inevitably lead to a nosedive in our budgets.

So, the way out of this incoming conundrum is to look for other alternatives.
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by 9jaRealist: 10:32am On May 11
ednut1:
Lord Lugard, the former governor-general of Nigeria, in 1926, wrote his unfiltered thought about Nigerians. From his book, The Dual Mandates, come these excerpts: "In character and temperament, the typical African of this race-type is a happy, thriftless, excitable person, lacking in self-control, discipline, and foresight. Naturally courageous, and naturally courteous and polite, full of personal vanity, with little sense of veracity, fond of music and loving weapons as an oriental loves jewellery. His thoughts are concentrated on the events and feelings of the moment, and he suffers little from the apprehension for the future or grief for the past. His mind is far nearer to the animal world than that of the European or Asiatic, and exhibits something of the animals' placidity and want of desire to rise beyond the state he has reached.

"Through the ages, the African appears to have evolved no organised religious creed, and though some tribes appear to believe in a deity, the religious sense seldom rises above pantheistic animalism and seems more often to take the form of a vague dread of the supernatural. He lacks the power of organisation, and is conspicuously deficient in the management and control alike of men or business. He loves the display of power, but fails to realize its responsibility - he will work hard with a less incentive than most races. He has the courage of the fighting animal, an instinct rather than a moral virtue. In brief, the virtues and defects of his race -type are those of attractive children, whose confidence when it is won is given ungrudgingly as to an older and wiser superior and without envy. Perhaps, the two traits which have impressed me as those most characteristic of the African native are his lack of apprehension and his lack of ability to visualize the future"

Since I am not a religious person, I will not even expend much energy on the highlighted that consigns your own indigenous religions as "belief in deity and fear of the supernatural" but have you believing in his own deity that apparently gets virgins pregnant, turn folks into pillars of salt and wipe out entire populations for non-obedience. Anyway, why would blame their obtuse racism when low-esteemed and self-hating Africans are slaughtering each other and impoverishing themselves on behalf of foreign 'religions' in an orgy of disgusting self-fulfilling prophesy! SMH
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Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by ednut1(m): 10:37am On May 11
9jaRealist:


Since I am not a religious person, I will not even expend much energy on the highlighted that consigns your own indigenous religions as "belief in deity and fear of the supernatural" but have you believing in his own deity that apparently gets virgins pregnant, turn folks into pillars of salt and wipe out entire populations for non-obedience. Anyway, why would blame their obtuse racism when low-esteemed and self-hating Africans are slaughtering each other and impoverishing themselves on behalf of foreign 'religions' in an orgy of disgusting self-fulfilling prophesy! SMH
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He loves the display of power, but fails to realize its responsibility - he will work hard with a less incentive than most races. He has the courage of the fighting animal, an instinct rather than a moral virtue. In brief, the virtues and defects of his race -type are those of attractive children, whose confidence when it is won is given ungrudgingly as to an older and wiser superior and without envy. Perhaps, the two traits which have impressed me as those most characteristic of the African native are his lack of apprehension and his lack of ability to visualize the future"

Is this part wrong

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Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by ednut1(m): 10:39am On May 11
Darevofpeace:
My point is that we should have a practical approach to solving our national problem.
Not a Late British Colonial Master labeling the whole black race bad upandan.
when u say we. Who is we. There is no we. Even among my tribe there is no we.
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by matify83: 10:44am On May 11
Sunsets:
Don't shed ignorant tears. Every society goes through this sort of civilization curve. It is not about the African community. Its about poverty, lack of proper education and exposure. Nothing genetic about it.


"The typical African of this race-type is a happy, thriftless, excitable person, lacking in self-control, discipline, and foresight. Naturally courageous, and naturally courteous and polite, full of personal vanity, with little sense of veracity, fond of music and loving weapons as an oriental loves jewellery. His thoughts are concentrated on the events and feelings of the moment, and he suffers little from the apprehension for the future or grief for the past".

"He lacks the power of organisation, and is conspicuously deficient in the management and control alike of men or business".

If the above excerpt did not send you into a sober mood then you are wired to self-destruct soon.

How do you escape poverty and ignorance when you lack the power of organization and veracity?

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Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by 9jaRealist: 10:54am On May 11
ednut1:
He loves the display of power, but fails to realize its responsibility - he will work hard with a less incentive than most races. He has the courage of the fighting animal, an instinct rather than a moral virtue. In brief, the virtues and defects of his race -type are those of attractive children, whose confidence when it is won is given ungrudgingly as to an older and wiser superior and without envy. Perhaps, the two traits which have impressed me as those most characteristic of the African native are his lack of apprehension and his lack of ability to visualize the future"

Is this part wrong

Rather rich from the dude that displayed absolute power over the Nigerian colony with little responsibility to its indigenous population... undecided

Bros, not sure how much you have bothered to study African history (and I realize that Nigerian authorities are anti-history), and I am not even one of those folks with a rosy nostalgic view of ancient Africa, but the reality is that while his ancestors were busy slaughtering each other mindlessly during the Dark Ages, our ancestors were building centers of learning (the equivalent of today's universities) and empires, and peacefully trading across expansive territories within and between different indigenous 'nations'! Please do not let a colonial slowpoke who cannot culturally distinguish between Hausa and Fulani or Yoruba and Ibibio presume to tell you about the psyche or culture of the African.
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Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by 9jaRealist: 10:54am On May 11
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Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by DonX001: 11:04am On May 11
Darevofpeace:
Please enough of all these long dead Colonial Men assessment of the entire black continent.
If only you knew the evil that the whites had done to Africa as a whole,you would hate them with passion.
Late Lord Lugard had the audacity to wrote all these in 1926,when the British were using all our mineral resources to develop there Countries and trading African's as slaves by putting iron chains around there necks and made them to work in farms and all that.
You need to go watch the adventure of 'Kante Konte' and learn.
A single Man can never define an entire black race with his myopic reasoning and brain.
Look at the performance of the Nigerian outside Africa,two days ago,a Nigerian Woman became a Mayor in England and several other beautiful news.
Asides our government irresponsible behaviours through poor leadership and bad management,Nigeria would have become the envy of the whole World.
My point is the British do not have any right to talk about the African's while they harmed them through slave trade.
The only thing is to stop trading blame games and all Nigerian should engage in active politics.
I did joined a political party last year August and I was utterly shocked about the low Numbers of the Youth attending political meetings.
The most painful thing was that it was filled up with illiterates and people who are not that exposed.
Then I did my analysis that the politics an average naija youth understood is on 'NewsPaper' which is lesser than the truth.
The enabling influence of Naija's political structure is at the grass root.
Despite the economy hardship,an average Nigerian refused to Vote in the last general election.
The assumption was "they would not count my vote" I was a party agent for my street and the total registered voters were 897 and only 425 came out to vote. The second election turnout was worst. 350 only came out at the same unit.
Lagos state registered about 6million people and mere 1million plus came out to vote.
Our political awareness and participation are not sufficient and the much reason our government misbehave.
An average Naija civil servant's do not care about what the government are doing for sustainable growth of the economy as long as his/her salaries are been paid monthly.Forgetting that the failure of any state government to generate IGR would affect the infrastructural development and salaries at the long run.

Bros, you don't get it.
The reason why all these things you outlined happen is because of our inherent nature as a community of Nigerians/Africans, which is what Lord Lugard succinctly outlined.
Don't blame slavery as the cause. Africans are not the only race that has ever been enslaved. Caucasians, Israelites (Jews), Arabs and other races have also been taken as slaves.
Slavery has been existing since before Jesus Christ was born, well over a millennium before any white man set foot in Africa.
So its not only Africans that have been ever enslaved or had our resources plundered. It was standard practice in those days to take a city's citizens as slaves and plunder their resources whenever there was a war. Go and read your Bible or Quran if in doubt.
So its not about slavery.

Even in more recent times (in the past century), millions of Israelis were annihilated in the 2nd World war, 2 major Japanese cities Hiroshima and Nagasaki were completely razed down by atomic bombs. Down to complete dust. Yet they have completely rebuilt and are thriving ten times better than Nigeria.
So its not about slavery or looting of resources.

And you're blaming government, its not about government, because the government is a product of the people. If you remove the president 10 times and put 10 different people, 9 out of 10 of those people will be criminals who are looking for a way to loot their own share.
Why? Because they are picked out of our community, where almost half of the youth is either a yahoo boy/yahoo+ boy, dating a yahoo boy or supporting yahoo. Where some parents actually support their Yahoo children, pray for them and defend them. Where if you are a government official and you don't chop money, your village people will abuse you and call you a useless man, and your co-workers will try to remove you or kill you since you are blocking them from chopping money.

The reason why our government is irresponsible and full of bad leadership like you said, is because of our nature.
The reason why people don't come out to vote or actively participate in politics to choose few good leaders out of the many bad ones, is because of our inherent nature still.


So the question is: why are we like this? Why is Nigeria and Africa's own different?
It boils down to our inherent nature as perfectly outlined by Lugard.
Go back and read his writeup again slowly, line by line, and think about the Nigerian conundrum and why we refuse to develop despite ALL our resources.
Read it without sentiment (if you have that ability).
And tell me what you see.

PS:
A summary of the reason why we are like this is below:
(We lack the ability as a people to visualize the future, a lack of comprehension of the effects of our actions in the long term, and we lack the ability to learn from past events and plan for the future...as a people.)
That is exactly what Lord Lugard said.
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by x6blade(m): 11:06am On May 11
Sunsets:
Yes, no lies about you.
why do I mentions from people like you who have nothing smart to say , whyyy

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Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Darevofpeace(m): 11:07am On May 11
ednut1:
when u say we. Who is we. There is no we. Even among my tribe there is no we.
That is the major problem as a whole.
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Darevofpeace(m): 11:09am On May 11
DonX001:

Bros, you don't get it.
The reason why all these things you outlined is because of our inherent nature as a community of Nigerians/Africans, which is what Lord Lugard succinctly outlined.
Don't blame slavery as the cause. Africans are not the only race that has ever been enslaved. Caucasians, Israelites (Jews), Arabs and other races have also been taken as slaves.
Slavery has been existing since before Jesus Christ was born, well over a millennium before any white man set foot in Africa.
So its not only Africans that have been ever enslaved or had our resources plundered. It was standard practice in those days to take a city's citizens as slaves and plunder their resources whenever there was a war. Go and read your bible or Quoran if in doubt.
So its not about slavery.

Even in more recent times (in the past century), millions of Israelis were annihilated in the 2nd World war, 2 major Japanese cities Hiroshima and Nagasaki were completely razed down by atomic bombs. Yet they have completely rebuilt and are thriving ten times better than Nigeria.
So its not about slavery or looting of resources.

And you're blaming government, its not about government, because the government is a product of the people. If you remove the president 10 times and put 10 different people, 9 out of 10 of those people will be criminals who are looking for a way to loot their own share.
Why? Because they are picked out of our community, where almost half of the youth is either a yahoo boy/yahoo+ boy, dating a yahoo boy or supporting yahoo. Where some parents actually support their Yahoo children, pray for them and defend them. Where if you are a government official and you don't chop money, your village people will abuse you and call you a useless man, and your co-workers will try to remove you or kill you since you are blocking them from chopping money.
The reason why our government is irresponsible and full of bad leadership, is because of our nature.
The reason why people don't come out to vote or actively participate in politics to choose few good leaders out of the many bad ones, is because of our nature still.


So the question is: why are we like this? Why is Nigeria and Africa's own different?
It boils down to our inherent nature as perfectly outlined by Lugard.
Go back and read his writeup again slowly, line by line, and think about the Nigerian conundrum and why we refuse to develop despite ALL our resources.
Read it without sentiment (if you have that ability).
And tell me what you see.

PS:
A summary of the reason why we are like this is below:
(We lack the ability as a people to visualize the future, a lack of comprehension of the effects of our actions in the long term, and we lack the ability to learn from past events and plan for the future...as a people.)
That is exactly what Lord Lugard said.
Now that we are both on the same page,what is the way forward as a Youth?
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by MisterKings(m): 11:13am On May 11
As long as we have old men ruling us we are not going forward. I will change Nigeria if for any reason fate takes me into politics
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Toseenlove: 11:29am On May 11
nurey:
smiley

So with the continuous decline in petrol demand all over the world I wonder what Nigeria would lean on for foreign exchange earning.

May I be gone to a saner clime before Nigeria feels the heat

Amen Amin Allahumoh Amin Yah ALLAH!!! I normally tutor some old fools In my area when we start gisting about the Woes of this nation and the storm coming, They will say Nigeria go better, That what do I know...That I'm still Young, That's why I'm reasoning that way. I'll Just shook my head and be like, These Foools were the reason why we are here today. The problem with these old fools Is that they are Immune to Information Many of them are languishing In extreme poverty. May God bless my hustle big time soon make I catapult comot for this shithole.
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by DonX001: 11:34am On May 11
ednut1:
grin u are agreeing with him.
Lol, the guy didn't know he was actually agreeing with Lord Lugard by listing out the actual visible effects of our inherent mentality that Lord Lugard outlined 100 years ago.

If he goes back and reads it truly with a clear mind, he will see how the features of our mentality Lord Lugard mentioned have led to Nigeria's current state now.
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Mustiboy(m): 11:37am On May 11
matify83:



I was moved to tears with the excerpts above.

How can someone so accurately summarize us and our future in such prophetic manner.

@op, I need this book please
http://www.fafich.ufmg.br/~luarnaut/Lugard-dual%20mandate.pdf
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by Guestlander: 11:47am On May 11
Oil is not used only for motor vehicles.
Re: Electric Cars Outsold Petrol/diesel Fuel Cars In Oil-producing Norway by DonX001: 12:03pm On May 11
ednut1:
He loves the display of power, but fails to realize its responsibility - he will work hard with a less incentive than most races. He has the courage of the fighting animal, an instinct rather than a moral virtue. In brief, the virtues and defects of his race -type are those of attractive children, whose confidence when it is won is given ungrudgingly as to an older and wiser superior and without envy. Perhaps, the two traits which have impressed me as those most characteristic of the African native are his lack of apprehension and his lack of ability to visualize the future"

Is this part wrong

Gbam! Its either they do not understand it (and other salient parts of the writeup), or they chose to ignore it.
Either way, it does not change the reality.

The proof of of it is in the way our society still functions, over 100 years after he wrote that, while other non-African countries that started around the same time as us or after us have moved faaar ahead of us.

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