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|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Eapps(f): 7:16pm On May 11, 2019|
Forreellinc:First of all, avengers end game was not boring, the time travelling scenes were great and nostalgic characters like roddie and nebula who never got centre stage were given things to do in this movie like Naijasensei said you missed the message of the movie which was about letting go of pain and letting go of the past demonstrated by nebula also tony stark snapping his fingers was reminiscent of when his father told him about how his work has kept him selfish and not focused on what truly matters which was family
Secondly,your questions were answered in the movie but perhaps you were too busy opening your rubbish hate thread that you never bothered to find answers to your questions
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Eapps(f): 7:18pm On May 11, 2019|
And thanos was not a cartoon in this one, he was just as gallant and skillful and powerful as he was in the last movie so I have no idea what you are talking about
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by blingxx(m): 8:03pm On May 11, 2019|
Mjbolt and hulk616 wont see this
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by waywardpikin: 9:28pm On May 11, 2019|
OP I get your points despite your bias, and i say bias because you seem to want to nitpick at everything. Saying it was a terrible movie is just the icing on the cake. However, to indulge, the things I did not like include, like you pointed out:
- No Thanos vs Hulk rematch. This one really pains me.
- The whole time travel schtick. I've never been a fan of such storylines. But one thing we all thought we knew growing up and watching numerous time travel flicks is that, if something happens to your past self it will definitely affect your present self. And if you change anything in the past it will affect the present either minimally or majorly.
However, the MCU built a universe, set the rules within said universe and abided by said rules. They didn't do badly at all but Infinity War is the superior of the two.
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by meobizy(f): 10:11pm On May 11, 2019|
Lol at the moderators removing any mention of Reddit.
Them dey fear bigger and more globally accepted competition.
A lot of members are leaving here for there and never coming back.
The hypocrisy is that, like African leaders, they populate that site and enjoy its facilities.
It is after chopping knowledge belleful there they come back here to form god.
I saw a thread there where one popular Nairalander was accused of using English as a secondary language, the guy go disgrace person there.
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Nobody: 2:28am On May 12, 2019|
I seem to be the only person who understands the op. There is too much feminizm in the movie. Thor was so emasculated, The Miljoiner was obviously a better weapon in his hands, why didn't he use it. Why did he hand over kingship to valkerie. Hulk didn't play any major combat role during the last fighting scene. I won't say I am disappointed with the movie but those of us who know how far, know that Hollywood is promoting an agenda. Strong women and weak men agenda with women taking over leadership roles from men. They're lots of subliminal messages in the movie, only few people will catch it
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Forreellinc: 6:55am On May 12, 2019|
Eapps:You see even you admits it, infinity war had it all, thrills, action, fan service/nostalgia,tear jerking drama,twists and ground breaking story telling
But all endgame has is just drama and nostalgia and a lot of questions
As for no.2 aunty I have watched every single mcu movie and I understand their way of making movies so stop saying i don't understand the movie when you run out of things to say
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Forreellinc: 6:56am On May 12, 2019|
meobizy:O'boy you sabi cry o, na moderator you dey vex with now
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Forreellinc: 7:00am On May 12, 2019|
waywardpikin:Yes yes I did admit that I exaggerated by calling it terrible, it sucks but its not terrible and as for following the rules:
Hulk(who doesn't know what time travel is) said if they change the past, it doesn't affect the future, it just creates another reality. Only for captain America to be at the end in their reality after going after Peggy in the past. you see? They didnt follow their own rules
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by naijasensei: 9:21am On May 12, 2019|
Don't bother yourself trying to have a discussion with someone who has a closed mind, is also infantile, and grossly immature. You will only end up lowering your IQ, and receiving insults from him. I have left him to play with himself.
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by naijasensei: 9:41am On May 12, 2019|
As much as I will agree that Hollywood has an agenda, I will disagree with some of your points.
- Hulk was seriously injured after using the infinity gauntlet for the snap.
- Remember Hela destroyed Mjolnir easily during Thor Ragnarok, hence Thor made Stormbreaker as the weapon to kill Thanos with.
- Thor was bitterly disappointed with the whole Thanos incident. First time out, he missed Thanos' head. Second time out, the stones had been destroyed. He just decided to take a chill. As per handing the kingdom to Valkyrie, he was fed up with the whole intrigue, politics, and lies from Asgard; especially the Help issue.
- Although you didn't mention it, that female team up you saw at the end was a subtle nod at A-Force. Although with recent happenings it can also be interpreted as a needless feminist plug, you decide.
- There are so many easter eggs and hidden references in Endgame. The directors knew exactly what they wanted, and they delivered big time.
- About the time travel stuff in the film, the Russos have made detailed explanations about it, they even explained what happened to Cap at the end.
As always, these are my opinions.
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Forreellinc: 11:04am On May 12, 2019|
Ehen! this was what I was expecting your response to be I wasn't expecting you to be "intellectual" and I know i know you are gonna act like this is not directed at me but then again you won't do all these research for onlinesalesng who wasn't even talking to you in the first place
Apart from that, prof. Hulk wasn't in any shape to fight thanos cause he had no rage any more which means the russos didn't plan for a rematch which is lame.
Nah! Thor was way over the problems of asgard if he wasn't, he would have handed power over to her after chopping off thanos head, he handed it over to her because of FEMINISM yay! *pukes in mouth*
hmmm bros bros you don run go Wikipedia, anyway it was still the whole feminism sh*t the fact that A force exists is just a coincidence let me explain
1. This female thing was present in black panther where they focused more on okoye and dumbed down wakabi even though he was just as good a military leader as she was.
2. They did the whole girl power thingy in infinity war where all the girls found themselves combating thanos female minion but I didn't complain about that because I actually liked that part
3. Then came captain marvel who just made it all about WOMEN ARE STRONGER THAN MEN which was why they made nick fury a total m0r0n and wimpy character
4. Then endgame followed with that shot which did absolutely jack sh!t for the movie except to get girls wet or something
Black widow is a strong female character but they don't dumb down her male counterparts or enemies to make her shine they don't make her give secret message girl power speeches even pepper pots got special powers in IM 3 but that wasn't to send any messages it was just the plot
Like what? Boring falcon getting caps shield and becoming black captain America like the comics(sorry I don't know his name), or the falcon whatever that tony stark tried to use to get home but failed, or Howard duck fighting at the end or the russo cameo or Scott langs daughter growing up so she can become a superhero in later movies(can't remember her name either I think its wasp or something) guy we have all watched the looper and the screen rant YouTube channels and have a history with marvel movies but Easter eggs don't make a movie fun, they are just there to advertise other movies or give youtubers work.
Guy it was stated clearly, if you alter the past you don't change the future, why exactly was captain America now old instead of just creating another time line? Russos can't explain themselves out of this one and i don't even blame them, what explanation can they possibly give.
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by chival(f): 12:58pm On May 12, 2019|
The movie was grossly underwhelming. Wit and action were sacrificed for emotions. Hulk, Thor, Nick Fury and several others were downplayed and the most glaring of all, Natasha's death was grossly overshadowed by Stark's. In fact, on the whole, you get the feeling the avengers weren't quite themselves - too solemn and mournful. That said, it wasn't too bad. The first Avengers movie remains my favourite.
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Kceefresh19: 1:13pm On May 12, 2019|
Whether terrible or not, it's still the second highest grossing movie
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Forreellinc: 1:13pm On May 12, 2019|
chival:As in after hulk throwe bench they didn't even talk about black widow again apart from when hulk tried to bring her back.
Left for me I would have scrapped that time travel sh!t and just have the film pick up from where infinity war ended
I feel captain marvel could have easily tracked thanos using the gauntlet on other planets and nebula would know how-to defeat thanos, the other characters would have a little breathing room to shine and tony's sacrifice to bring back spiderman would have made more sense
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Eapps(f): 1:33pm On May 12, 2019|
Forreellinc:Op this is why everyone keeps telling you that you do not understand this movie,what you suggested was exactly what happened captain marvel tracked thanos and nebula accompanied the avengers to kill him and as you can see that made the movie about 15 minutes short so they definitely couldn't go with your story
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Forreellinc: 5:55pm On May 12, 2019|
Eapps:Yes they did but because they had no story to tell, they opted for fan service aka time travel through the quantum realm
Imagine if after the events of infinity war, nebula uses the same tech she transported thanos to earth with to send she and tony to earth, the other avengers ship off from wakanda to prep for a retaliation attack. During the prepping we can get all the tears and emotions that the movie managed to get right, banner tries to get the hulk back even going as far as consulting his anger therapist in portugal and even general ross with the hope of splicing abominables DNA with the hulks but it all fails
With the help of Nebula they track thanos through other planets he may likely attack they eventually find thanos but he is weak after fighting and managing to injure captain marvel and restricting her from using her full powers
Thanos anticipating a retaliation from the avengers,used the mind stone to manipulate the infinity watch members(who were speculated to appear in endgame anyway)into fighting the avengers this will kill two birds with one stone
1. It gives us a good team vs somewhat evil team fight which marvel or dc movies have not ventured into yet
2. It gives even more details of what those stones can actually do sighting older mcu movies as references which will provide the fan service /nostalgia which everyone loved about the movie including me.
Now the avengers have the infinity watch to fend off as well as rescue members who have been captured or injured by the infinity watch while wondering who captain marvel really is and if to trust her even though she mentions her relationship with nick fury.
Eventually the trance on the infinity watch wear off and the avengers inform them that their brethren thanos has indeed betrayed them, the watch relents on their pursuit and task the avengers to go and recover the stones from thanos.
Tony who has not fully recovered from his injury in infinity war joins the avengers in their final battle with a recovered thanos just so he can avenge peter parker.
They show down with thanos who kicks their ass from Monday to sunday but hulk comes back but he is so resilient that thanos is unable to defeat him like he did in infinity war and he is more frustrated when captain marvel despite her injury is able to fire a proton blast that destroys thanos armour and almost mortally wound him. Seeing that he may lose the battle and not wanting his work to be corrupted, thanos opts to destroy the stones killing himself and black widow(who just happened to be close by) in the process
The infinity watch as a reward for revealing thanos brings back the people who vanished in infinity war.tony manages to communicate with peter parker before he succumbs to his wounds and pass away
The gov't pardons bucky for past crimes and enlists him in the avenger initiative but captain America who still disagrees with the sokovia accord retires(as a sign of respect to stark)he hands over leadership to sam and starts a relationship with Emily vancamps character
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by lechiffre: 7:39pm On May 12, 2019|
I don't like your story, bringing a new character to the final movie in mcu phase 4 is a bad idea so thanos friends idea is not welcome,abominable and hulks dna don't match it will be shoe horning past marvel movies to create that story arch for hulk,you wrote nothing for hawk eye and how does tony stark survive for so long with a gaping hole in his stomach
Nothing about pepe nothing about antman no war machine your story is just all over the place and no way to end the avengers
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Forreellinc: 8:15pm On May 12, 2019|
The point is that time travel was lazy especially when they can write other ways which both fan serves and create a new narrative, I wrote that story in 30 minutes
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by waywardpikin: 10:51pm On May 12, 2019|
Yeah you did. But it isn't close to as good as what we got. Not close. Not even a little bit.
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by lechiffre: 4:47am On May 13, 2019|
waywardpikin:You dey mind am
I went to read about the infinity watch group he was even talking about, if they existed we would not need the avengers to begin with black widow died because thanos wanted to destroy the stone
How many times will they hold back Captain marvels full strength and how does tony even shine in your narrative
You are now forming I wrote it under 30 minutes because you know its rubbish
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by naijasensei: 12:18pm On May 13, 2019|
Respect they say is reciprocal. If you behave like a fool, I'll treat you like one, understand? I'm not here for arguments.
True, Hulk draws his power from his rage. Remember though, that smart powerful beings can always find a way to defeat the Hulk.
Your interpretation. Do you remember Thor in the films before Thor: Ragnarok? He was driven, and he had complete belief in Odin. Guess how shocked he was to discover that Odin had hidden so many things from him? I even wager Odin had gone for the Infinity stones before Thanos did.
Thor just wants to live his life the way he wants. However, I believe he will return to Asgard much, much later.
That you indulge in running to Wikipedia, does not mean I do the same. Back to the matter, with regards to Captain Marvel, I agree she is there to push a feminist agenda, no question. However, the Black Panther has always been protected by the Dora Milaje, from as far back as I can remember. Check the Black Panther comics to confirm this. Wakabi was just an add-on.
As per the girls fight in Infinity War, Scarlet Witch is one of the most powerful characters in Marvel, why? She got her powers from an Infinity stone.
With regards to your anti-feminist views on some scenes, I really couldn't care less, you are free to make whatever deductions you want.
As I said earlier, you are free to believe whatever you want, I am not here to change your mind. As for easter eggs not making a movie fun, good luck with that. Finally, if you don't understand why Captain America returned as an old man, I really can't help you, it is left for you to find it out yourself.
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by naijasensei: 12:50pm On May 13, 2019|
For someone who has the gall to accuse the Russo's of lazy story telling, I am horribly shocked and disappointed by what I just read. I can pick so many holes in your narrative. If your script had been used for Endgame, there would have been massive walkouts in cinemas across the globe.
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by naijasensei: 1:08pm On May 13, 2019|
I am with you on this, but isn't life wonderful? It is so easy to criticize, belittle, and insult. He called the Russos lazy, the plot weak, and a thousand and one other complaints. But give the critic the chance to do something better, and, wonder of wonders, he falls flat on his face. Shame, real big shame. They always talk a big game but they always fail to deliver.
Is Endgame perfect? No.
Is Endgame fantastic? Yes.
Is it for everyone? No.
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by lechiffre: 5:08pm On May 13, 2019|
endgame is a perfect movie if you have questions, well don't blame the russos blame your empty brain
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by JFOD: 10:39pm On May 13, 2019|
I dont like how end game ended, don't like how iron man died, captain America growing old and handing the shield to someone else but name a movie that beats Endgame. It's dis type of thing that makes me tell people not to watch cinema dub
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Arthurity1(m): 11:36pm On May 13, 2019|
I would admit that the MCU didn't do the hulk justice but the rest of your epistle was just trash!
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Forreellinc: 5:57am On May 14, 2019|
JFOD:According to forreelinc we have;
Honorable mentions will be dark knight buh I won't include it cause that would be cheating
1.Spider-Man into the spider-verse
2. Infinity war
3. Civil war
4. Justice League Flashpoint
5. Mad max fury road
According to rotten tomatoes
2.Mad max fury road
3. Spiderman into the spider-verse
4.mission impossible fallout
Then according to the box office so far we have
Didn't really know What You meant by beat so I compiled h-all these
JFOD:Actually I wish I did watch the cinema dub, then I will still have my money
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Forreellinc: 5:58am On May 14, 2019|
Arthurity1:I will add that as Lazy post number... hmm lost count already
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Forreellinc: 6:07am On May 14, 2019|
what are you saying again? if i laugh you say you yan off point you go begin dey vex again
was that why we didn't get a hulk thanos rematch? i mean thanos beat and almost killed iron man in infinity war, that didn't stop the movie from giving them a rematch
but at the end of thor ragnarok, thor was over all the betrayal and the deaths and lies and every every which was symbolized by him taking the throne at the end of the movie and not handing it to loki or valkyrie
nah i think you do ,if you were familiar with the Aforce, you would have known that captain marvel is the only person in that scene that belongs to the Aforce
naijasensei:yes wakabi was included to make okoye look smart and strong GO GIRL POWER
as big as the wakanda battlefield was okoye,black widow and scarlet witch the only active females in that scene just found themselves fighting no one else but proxima midnight?(sorry if I said rubbish here was too lazy to look it up) this was marvel creating something for the STRONG FEMALES demographic but it was cool unlike the vomit inducing scene in endgame
when have you ever heard someone say "i love this movie cause it has sooooo many easter eggs" easter eggs neither make nor break a movie, like i said they are just adverts for other movies
|Re: Avengers Endgame Is A Terrible Movie(spoilers) by Forreellinc: 6:19am On May 14, 2019|
naijasensei:you didn't like my story? Why? Just kidding I know you don't have a reason cause you are an intellectual
i disagree with you, you know why? through my "script"(your words not mine)
- i actually created a story which fits to be called endgame unlike the russos who created days of future past left lose ends scattered all around and called it endgame?
- i created an avenue to make it about the original avengers alone, if you noticed i barely put antman or rocket in it because it is the final outing of the avengers I only put captain marvel there cause dr. Starnges end game was to get thanos complacent and alert captain marvel
- i created a back story for thanos and ended his story
- i created a back story for the infinity stones story and ended it(two things the russos failed to do thanks to their lazy time travel story)
- i maintained the urgency from infinity war and eliminated the boredom from endgame WITHOUT skipping out on the emotional parts which i liked about endgame and was the highlight of the russos direction
- I created a character arc for hulk and the avengers/ captain marvel relationship arc which rhymes with the " avengers hate captain marvel" publicity campaign that MCU is pushing all over social media
- I provided room for fan service by giving an excuse to visit previous movies through the infinity watch
- I didn't force tony stark or black widows death
- I didn't change thanos' character and objectives
- I didn't force thor or stark to have 'closure' with their parents even though they basically had closure by the end of their respective movies(tony already saw the recording where his father expressed his love for him in iron man 2 and thor totally avenged his mothers death)
I did all these under 30 minutes what did the russos do with the 3 years, source material and writers they had in their possession?
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