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Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by sonmvayina(m): 9:37pm On May 15
Earthkumy:


Jesus is only way to God

He is truth and life

Noooo, the law of God is the way, the truth and the life... Read psalm 119, it is a long poem about the laws of God...
Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by Earthkumy(m): 7:19am On May 16
sonmvayina:


Noooo, the law of God is the way, the truth and the life... Read psalm 119, it is a long poem about the laws of God...

And you don't know Jesus is the fulfilment of the law?

And you don't know Jesus is the word of God?
Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by Maximus69: 9:16am On May 16
Earthkumy:
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
2 Peter 3:10‭-‬12 NIV
ITUMO!
I asked if those false teachers and prophets are working for Jesus and is this your response? undecided
Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by sonmvayina(m): 11:11am On May 16
Earthkumy:


And you don't know Jesus is the fulfilment of the law?

And you don't know Jesus is the word of God?

read psalm 119, then come back and we can have a good discussion....please how is jesus the word of god..explain.
thanks
Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by benswitch: 1:48pm On May 16
When one becomes overly-religious, your MIND ends up toxic to any noble act.

Religious folks are the REAL PSYCHOPATH! Grow up & stop believing in fairytales.

Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by Earthkumy(m): 6:10pm On May 16
sonmvayina:


read psalm 119, then come back and we can have a good discussion....please how is jesus the word of god..explain.
thanks

I don't think you have anything worth discussing
Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by Bruno3000(m): 10:26am On May 19
sonmvayina:


read psalm 119, then come back and we can have a good discussion....please how is jesus the word of god..explain.
thanks
Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by Bruno3000(m): 10:28am On May 19
sonmvayina:


read psalm 119, then come back and we can have a good discussion....please how is jesus the word of god..explain.
thanks
You hv a long way to go. You are just like Nicodemus. Read John 1:1- the end.

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Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by jesusjnr(m): 12:31pm On May 19
Bruno3000:
You hv a long way to go. You are just like Nicodemus. Read John 1:1- the end.
No he isn't like Nicodemus who was a righteous Pharisee that really sought to know the truth.

He is not even like the other hypocritical Pharisees who opposed Jesus.

This is a satanist, an agent of darkness who is here doing the bidding of his master Satan.

So now you know.

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Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by Earthkumy(m): 1:42pm On May 19
jesusjnr:
No he isn't like Nicodemus who was a righteous Pharisee that really sought to know the truth.

He is not even like the other hypocritical Pharisees who opposed Jesus.

This is a satanist, an agent of darkness who is here doing the bidding of his master Satan.

So now you know.

God bless you

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Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by jesusjnr(m): 2:31pm On May 19
Earthkumy:


God bless you
Thank you much bro for obeying the instruction of the Master.

God bless you too.

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Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by jesusjnr(m): 2:37pm On May 19
EmperorHarry:
A word is enough for the wise(To whom it may concern)
Emperorharry, long time no chat.

I didn't even know it was your comments I was liking and sharing.

Hmmm, let me reserve my comments for later, except you want to tell me something now that I don't know yet. wink
Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by EmperorHarry: 4:38pm On May 19
jesusjnr:
Emperorharry, long time no chat.
Sup bro..It's been a while,howzit going?

I didn't even know it was your comments I was liking and sharing.
Waaaaaaawwww...Well now you know.

Hmmm, let me reserve my comments for later, except you want to tell me something now that I don't know yet. wink
No not really. Is there something I should be telling you? Cos I'm pretty sure there's nothing to tell.

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Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by jesusjnr(m): 8:29pm On May 19
EmperorHarry:
Sup bro..It's been a while,howzit going?

Waaaaaaawwww...Well now you know.

No not really. Is there something I should be telling you? Cos I'm pretty sure there's nothing to tell.
I'm good oh thanks.

You know, it was after that, I bumped into our past exchanges and I was like, what

No way!!!

Well i really liked your comments here, it made much sense.

Keep it up and God bless!
Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by sonmvayina(m): 11:05pm On May 19
Bruno3000:
You hv a long way to go. You are just like Nicodemus. Read John 1:1- the end.
It is up to you, continue reading bible from back to front as if Christianity came before Judaism..

Bye
Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by sonmvayina(m): 11:06pm On May 19
Earthkumy:


I don't think you have anything worth discussing

Rabbi Michael Skobac of Jews for Judaism in Canada likes to say that many missionaries read the T'nach (Jewish bible) with "Jesus glasses" on. This is akin to "rose colored glasses" -- where whatever the missionary sees, if it even has the slightest commonality with Jesus automatically becomes a "prophecy" about Jesus.

Thus King David speaking of being thirsty becomes a prophecy of Jesus being thirsty on the cross, G-d calling Israel out of Egypt is said to be a prophecy of Jesus "coming out of Egypt" and so on. . .

Rabbi Skobac will suggest that a missionary ask him / herself "in the 1500 years Judaism existed before Christianity would any Jew alive have seen that passage as a messianic prophecy?" If the answer is "no" it should be struck from the missionary list. . . although we know it won't be. . .

The average Christian is at a great disservice. The missionary will begin with the Christian bible and read "backwards" into the T'nach (Jewish bible). Thus they assume the Christian bible is true, and they are simply looking for "footprints" of Jesus in what they call the "old" -- the T'nach.

Does that even make sense?

Where else in learning do we begin at the end and look backwards? Normally learning commences at "the beginning" and we move forward. However, doing so will eliminate Jesus from being the messiah -- so this is not how Christians are taught (including children). . . no they begin by being told "Jesus loves the little children" -- and while many a devout Christian may take a highlighter pen and highlight passages in the Christian bible how many of them really study the T'nach first and flow it into the Christian bible -- noticing all the contradictions along the way?

After all:

To the average Christian “sin” means “an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.” It doesn’t matter if that immoral act was an accident or “on purpose.” Yet for Jews the Hebrew word חֵטְא / cheit / sin is an unintentional sin through carelessness — a “missing of the mark.”

How about atonement? 1 John 2:2 says that Jesus “is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.” When Christian s say "atonement" they mean only a crucified insurrectionist's blood is to "erase" the sins of past, present and future generations. But ONLY if the individual personally accepts this "gift."

In the T'nach atonement is an ongoing process for each human being. G-d wants us to have a hand in our own spiritual growth -- thus it makes no sense that anyone could atone FOR anyone else. . . . Atonement is a process of continually learning from our mistakes and trying to do better "next time."

Many Christians are taught that "Jesus died for their sins." This is not biblical. No one can die for the sins of another, and human sacrifice is strictly forbidden.; "Fathers shall not be put to death because of sons, nor shall sons be put to death because of fathers; each man shall be put to death for his own transgression." D'varim / Deuteronomy 24:16.

Christianity teaches that man is born a sinner due to the "original" sin committed by Adam and Chava (Eve). "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people because all sinned." (Romans 5:12). Judaism and Torah disagree -- we are not born sinners, "If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? If, though, you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you shall master over it." (B'reshit / Genesis 4:7) See also 8:21; D'varim / Deuteronomy 30:14.

I could continue -- blood is not needed to atone for sin (indeed in the bible individual blood sacrifices could only be brought for mistakes -- חֵטְא / cheit / sin -- but not for far more serious transgressions such as willful disobedience to G-d or even impulsive wrongful acts - there were no blood sacrifices for those -- only prayer, atonement, charity and so on could expiate those types of "sins."

Even worse than learning the bible "backwards" (or sometimes not at all -- many small Christian children are taught "Jesus loves me" but they do not read the Christian bible or the original bible. . . they read "bible stories" which clean up the contradictions, the nastiness, the pettiness, etc. Indeed, the Jesus in the Christian bible never comes out and says he loves the people -- unless he is commanding that they love HIM first. "A new command I give you: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another" John 13:34, "Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him." John 14:21 and so on.

Does John 14:21 mean that Jesus does NOT love the little children since they are too young to understand what it means to love him?

Another issue with reading the bible backwards is the fact that the Christians "moved the books around." Taking things out of chronological order -- and removing them from the level of holiness (the T'nach begins with the holiest, the Torah and proceeds to the Prophets who had direct communication from G-d re-enforcing the messages in Torah but a level removed from the prophecy of Moses which was not through visions or dreams as were all other prophets, and finally Writings which is even farther removed and is not direct communication with G-d, but rather influenced words of men). The Christian translations of the T'nach move things around ignoring these layers of connectivity with G-d. . .

https://nojesus4jews.weebly.com/sophiees-blog/category/christian-bible
Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by EmperorHarry: 6:45am On May 20
jesusjnr:
I'm good oh thanks.

You know, it was after that, I bumped into our past exchanges and I was like, what

No way!!!

Well i really liked your comments here, it made much sense.

Keep it up and God bless!
Lol..I know what your getting at but it's all good.I'll leave you to your imagination and speculations which you should reserve until your certain of them.
Thanks btw and God bless.

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Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by jesusjnr(m): 7:37am On May 20
EmperorHarry:

Lol..I know what your getting at but it's all good.I'll leave you to your imagination and speculations which you should reserve until your certain of them.
Thanks btw and God bless.
Lolz! cheesy

Well it's easy to know what I'm getting at.

But as you can clearly see, my lips are sealed lipsrsealed till then.

However i must say meanwhile that whatever happened, that your comments here clearly show a sharp contrast to your comments then that I couldn't even link such comment to you.

But it's all good as you said.

Cheers.
Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by EmperorHarry: 9:20am On May 20
jesusjnr:
Lolz! cheesy
However i must say meanwhile that whatever happened, that your comments here clearly show a sharp contrast to your comments then that I couldn't even link such comment to you..
I don't think there's a major difference in my ideologies within the time we had that convo and now. I'd admit I have changed but not in the aspect of my core values.You need to examine the convo we had to understand why I chose to be spiteful&take up my role as the antagonist seriously.Although it seems you've repented from your ways and turned a new leaf. Fingers crossed as regards to your speculations.Maybe,just maybe you're right.

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Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by jesusjnr(m): 10:43am On May 20
EmperorHarry:

I don't think there's a major difference in my ideologies within the time we had that convo and now. I'd admit I have changed but not in the aspect of my core values.You need to examine the convo we had to understand why I chose to be spiteful&take up my role as the antagonist seriously.Although it seems you've repented from your ways and turned a new leaf. Fingers crossed as regards to your speculations.Maybe,just maybe you're right.
Lol!

Well concerning your imaginations and speculations about me, I wouldn't advise you to bank on that one. wink

Antagonistic, yes, but spiteful?

Nah, not for me, for I know spiteful when I see one.

Well fingers crossed because I like what I hear.

Thanks

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Re: Jesus Says I Should Tell You The End Is Near by Earthkumy(m): 5:08pm On May 20
sonmvayina:


Rabbi Michael Skobac of Jews for Judaism in Canada likes to say that many missionaries read the T'nach (Jewish bible) with "Jesus glasses" on. This is akin to "rose colored glasses" -- where whatever the missionary sees, if it even has the slightest commonality with Jesus automatically becomes a "prophecy" about Jesus.

Thus King David speaking of being thirsty becomes a prophecy of Jesus being thirsty on the cross, G-d calling Israel out of Egypt is said to be a prophecy of Jesus "coming out of Egypt" and so on. . .

Rabbi Skobac will suggest that a missionary ask him / herself "in the 1500 years Judaism existed before Christianity would any Jew alive have seen that passage as a messianic prophecy?" If the answer is "no" it should be struck from the missionary list. . . although we know it won't be. . .

The average Christian is at a great disservice. The missionary will begin with the Christian bible and read "backwards" into the T'nach (Jewish bible). Thus they assume the Christian bible is true, and they are simply looking for "footprints" of Jesus in what they call the "old" -- the T'nach.

Does that even make sense?

Where else in learning do we begin at the end and look backwards? Normally learning commences at "the beginning" and we move forward. However, doing so will eliminate Jesus from being the messiah -- so this is not how Christians are taught (including children). . . no they begin by being told "Jesus loves the little children" -- and while many a devout Christian may take a highlighter pen and highlight passages in the Christian bible how many of them really study the T'nach first and flow it into the Christian bible -- noticing all the contradictions along the way?

After all:

To the average Christian “sin” means “an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.” It doesn’t matter if that immoral act was an accident or “on purpose.” Yet for Jews the Hebrew word חֵטְא / cheit / sin is an unintentional sin through carelessness — a “missing of the mark.”

How about atonement? 1 John 2:2 says that Jesus “is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.” When Christian s say "atonement" they mean only a crucified insurrectionist's blood is to "erase" the sins of past, present and future generations. But ONLY if the individual personally accepts this "gift."

In the T'nach atonement is an ongoing process for each human being. G-d wants us to have a hand in our own spiritual growth -- thus it makes no sense that anyone could atone FOR anyone else. . . . Atonement is a process of continually learning from our mistakes and trying to do better "next time."

Many Christians are taught that "Jesus died for their sins." This is not biblical. No one can die for the sins of another, and human sacrifice is strictly forbidden.; "Fathers shall not be put to death because of sons, nor shall sons be put to death because of fathers; each man shall be put to death for his own transgression." D'varim / Deuteronomy 24:16.

Christianity teaches that man is born a sinner due to the "original" sin committed by Adam and Chava (Eve). "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people because all sinned." (Romans 5:12). Judaism and Torah disagree -- we are not born sinners, "If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? If, though, you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you shall master over it." (B'reshit / Genesis 4:7) See also 8:21; D'varim / Deuteronomy 30:14.

I could continue -- blood is not needed to atone for sin (indeed in the bible individual blood sacrifices could only be brought for mistakes -- חֵטְא / cheit / sin -- but not for far more serious transgressions such as willful disobedience to G-d or even impulsive wrongful acts - there were no blood sacrifices for those -- only prayer, atonement, charity and so on could expiate those types of "sins."

Even worse than learning the bible "backwards" (or sometimes not at all -- many small Christian children are taught "Jesus loves me" but they do not read the Christian bible or the original bible. . . they read "bible stories" which clean up the contradictions, the nastiness, the pettiness, etc. Indeed, the Jesus in the Christian bible never comes out and says he loves the people -- unless he is commanding that they love HIM first. "A new command I give you: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another" John 13:34, "Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him." John 14:21 and so on.

Does John 14:21 mean that Jesus does NOT love the little children since they are too young to understand what it means to love him?

Another issue with reading the bible backwards is the fact that the Christians "moved the books around." Taking things out of chronological order -- and removing them from the level of holiness (the T'nach begins with the holiest, the Torah and proceeds to the Prophets who had direct communication from G-d re-enforcing the messages in Torah but a level removed from the prophecy of Moses which was not through visions or dreams as were all other prophets, and finally Writings which is even farther removed and is not direct communication with G-d, but rather influenced words of men). The Christian translations of the T'nach move things around ignoring these layers of connectivity with G-d. . .

https://nojesus4jews.weebly.com/sophiees-blog/category/christian-bible


You sound so confused

That's the problem with copy and past doe

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