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|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by don4real18(m): 9:16am On May 16|
If the rent is paid, what money will be used to build more branches and service the private jet?
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by jubrilELsudan: 9:17am On May 16|
THE RESULT OF LIVING A FAKE LIFE AND MAINTAINING A FAKE IMAGE AND LIFESTYLE AND HIM CARING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WILL SAY ABOUT HIS SITUATION.
NOT HAVING MONEY TO PAY RENT AND BEING HOMELESS IS JUST A PHASE MOST PEOPLE FACE AT ANY POINT IN THEIR LIVES EVEN HERE ABROAD.
SO MANY QUESTIONS ARISES. WAS THERE NO FRIEND OR ANYBODY THAT WAS WILLING TO ACCOMODATE HIM TILL HE GOT BACK ON HIS FEET?
WAS THE CHURCH COMMITEE AWARE OF HIS SITUATION?
IS THERE A WRITTEN OR VERBAL AGREEMENT THAT STATES THAT RCCG IS LIABLE FOR PROVIDING HIM ACCOMODATION AND GIVING HIM MONEY WHENEVER HE WAS IN NEED?
HAS HE BEEN COLLECTING MONEY FROM PEOPLE FOR RENT AND USING IT TO FVCK CHURCH GIRLS AND SHOOTING HIS HOT CUM IN THEIR MOUTHS?
HAS HE BEEN BEGGING AND DEPENDING ON PEOPLE IN THE PAST FOR MONEY AND USING IT TO FRONT?
WAS HE A VICTIM OF 419 BY YAHOO BOYZ?
DID YAHOO BOYZ USE HIS PANT FOR MONEY RITUALS AND COLLECTED HIS DESTINY?
AS HE WAS BRAVE ENOUGH TO COMMIT SUICIDE, WHY WASN'T HE BRAVE ENOUGH TO COME ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO BEG FOR MONEY?
WHY DIDN'T HE TRUST THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST WHICH HE SANG ABOUT AND STAND FIRM ON THE PROMISES OF GOD THAT ALL THAT HE NEEDED THY HAND HATH PROVIDED?
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by awoluyi(m): 9:21am On May 16|
How many needy members of RCCG do you think the church can really support? Must every Christian be a full time pastor? The earlier the youths who are employed pastors in these mega-churches realise that they are been used by the surper-rich GOs, the better for them. I have said repeatedly before, and l am saying it again, that only the rich GO's are "called by God" while they (GOs) "call" (employ) the enslaved pastors working under them. While the GO's claim to be possessing the wealth of the gentiles, the impoverished pastors under them are told to exercise faith for better tomorrow. I personally have no problems with the way church"s fund is managed because the names of the owners of the church is as stated on the certificate of incorporation issued by CAC. It's now left to me to know how to apply wisdom to follow the GO's.
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by mofedamijo(m): 9:21am On May 16|
OritaIbadan:Pastor J.T kalejaiye is my uncle and a pastor there, so what's your point, by Gods grace every year ending he spends over 8million naira on welfare, and i know other pastors who do same, some of the pastors are lazy, take that to the bank, part-time pastor and you don't want to engage yourself in something resourceful.... naaaa go n work
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by ronyking247: 9:21am On May 16|
I choose to view this differently. I ask where the place of the Holy Spirit in our believers is these days.
Jesus was clear to every believer John 16:33. Having the understanding of what tribulation and also the promise of the Holy Spirit as a COMFORTER is so assuring. John 14:26.
In my own Bible understanding, the least a believer can go is to have anxiety (anxious moment), after it is depression. And a depressed mind is a devils playground.
Jesus addresses anxiety in Mathew 6:27. Interestingly, He (Jesus) had his own anxious moment at Gethsemane in Mathew 26:36.39, but we saw how the event went, how Angels were sent to minister to him (strengthen Him). Philippians 4:6 also address Anxiety.
The least a believer should have is anxiety and like i said the Bible addressed it. Any believer that is depressed or having repeated depression should know that the mind is gone; it will take a whole lot to bring it back in line. It obviously means FEAR is ruling.
But the Bible says, God hasn't given us the spirit of fear, but of POWER, of LOVE and a SOUND MIND. One critical area devil always try to attack in believer is the mind; if he can get it then he can manipulate that believer for anything.
The connection between us and divinity is our FAITH, the opposite is fear and if we live in perpetual fear then we aren't even connected in the first instance.
Sadly there a whole lot of so called church-goers who doesn't have any relationship with God or are not in touch with God. The stories are abounding in our churches.
It is even unheard of that a so called believer is "depressed" because of house rent, when God still meet peoples need. Testimonies of these abound in our churches. I’m a living witness to this myself too.
For me, the biggest problem we have in church today is the lack of power. 2 Timothy 3:5 and that is huge. Interestingly, there are more tribulations to come.
Presently now, we Christian are facing economic persecution, but even at that, God has been faithful, He said the gate-of-hell shall not prevailed, not that they won’t try.
So if a so called commits suicide, then we might need to question the faith but more importantly, that should be a lesson to us all.1 Corinthians 10:12 is clear. For those who stand should continue to stand, examine oneself, and keep the Faith, get deeper in it.
May God help us in Jesus name.
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by Kingkun69(m): 9:21am On May 16|
blackpanda:why are you frustrated just say yes or no u were expecting insult u already set for fight u now didn't see fight
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by Proffdada: 9:22am On May 16|
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|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by jaxxy(m): 9:27am On May 16|
Social issues are part of politics.
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by VivaLaFrans: 9:28am On May 16|
OritaIbadan:Be careful, every vain word must be accounted for, especially by a believer... edit it... death is not far.... after it comes judgement..
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by Nature8(m): 9:29am On May 16|
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by Orpe7(m): 9:29am On May 16|
Was he living above his means?
Some people want to impress by all means
Not saying he is one of them o
But if u cant pay for the present house rent
Move to a place u can
Suicide isnt the way
The devil will definitely have a field day with his soul
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by sammyj: 9:32am On May 16|
Are you sure the church was aware of his predicament
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by habaja: 9:34am On May 16|
This is sad and not worth it.
I have serious doubt on the accomodation issue that led to depression.
Most of us in this forum had serious accommodation issue one time or the other but this never caused depression rather we all saw this as a challenge
There is more than meets the eye and i wont limit it to a mere report.
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by lotman4real(m): 9:35am On May 16|
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by desmond2pk: 9:36am On May 16|
My neighbor was supporting goodluck until buhari chose osibande as his running mate. Then, many redeemed members changed gear.
If you checked well, this man voted for buhari.
If he voted for buhari. It serves him well
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|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by LordPsalm: 9:36am On May 16|
Act 4 v 34 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales.
This was the brethren i know. You had better be a friend to the street than these so called churches cuz they will easily help u. If they could watch the worker go through this, fhen how about ordinary member?
These are GREEDY BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by owila4luv(m): 9:40am On May 16|
i use to condemn daddy freeze but now i see reason with him. Pastors Are So Wicked And stingy even to Their Own die hard Members.
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by Freshlorde: 9:40am On May 16|
Very useless talk ..who death hungry he kill him self nothing concern church so if church no help you you no fit help yourself or go another church wey go help you abi na only one church dey ?
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by olatunjithomas(m): 9:41am On May 16|
I disagree. what if he didn't table his predicament b4 the church or other ministers?
what if he is one of those young guys constantly showing off what they don't have,hence when they need something that they supposedly have in abundance, they cannot consult others out of shame, nd to avoid such shame and ridicule,he took his own life.
There is no way he could have met with his church ministers and something won't come out. there is more to this story than meets the eye.
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by mercyland93(m): 9:41am On May 16|
The truth is d death of this man really pained me that I'm solely thinking that this country is a big failed state.
Well this kind happening will nevertheless further makes me to keep boycotting the church. My take.
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by RoyalUc(m): 9:41am On May 16|
"How many suicides (not talking suicide bombings) do you hear of in other religions?"
And how many have you heard of in Christianity?
What makes you think he committed suicide because he couldn't pay his rent?
Do you know if the church had, at one point or another, rendered financial assistance to him?
While I agree with you to a large extent that "this is not the model the apostles set up after Christ left them in charge...that the church flourished mainly because everyone's need was properly taken into cognizance and that the 21st century church has greatly strayed, and terribly misplaced her priorities," but do you know that what you called 'model' was abused? That made "theTwelve gathered all the disciples together and said, "It would not be right for us to neglect the ministry of the word of God in order to wait on tables." (Acts 6:2). This tells you that the 'priority' of the Church is not to "serve tables" but "the ministry of the word of God."
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by NigeriaIsDoomed(m): 9:41am On May 16|
VivaLaFrans:Edit wetin? U must be a clown to ignore the facts that he has stated.
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by nonxo007(m): 9:44am On May 16|
martineverest:Sure, but the church would never push one to do anything. He had immersed himself into the pastoral work that he can't fend for himself without the support of the church. That guy should be in his late twenties or early thirties and should have gotten something else doing if he see that the church can't fund his needs, rather than going ahead to commit suicide. My pastor in the church I attend rears fish and also has a couple of stores and he'll tell you that if tomorrow the church isn't there he can still feed himself and family. Paul in the bible was one of the greatest apostles but he was also a tent maker so that tomorrow if money doesn't come out of the church he would have somewhere to fall to. I believe there's more to his death than just the church meeting his accommodation needs
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by Airoflaw(m): 9:45am On May 16|
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|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by VivaLaFrans: 9:46am On May 16|
NigeriaIsDoomed:Allow God to judge them... I discovered how they were many years ago but decided to keep shut... Do you think they don't know what they are doing... they know...
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by COCKCROW: 9:46am On May 16|
HE DID THAT JUST BECAUSE HE WAS SERVING ONE WHOM HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN. TO BE A PASTOR IS NOT FOR MONEY, IT IS A SERVICE TO GOD FOR WHAT HE DID AND THE CALL HE PASSED TO YOU TO SERVE HIM. FOR HIM TO KILL HIMSELF PROVED HE IS NOT CALL BY GOD. EITHER LAZINESS OR HIS INORDINATE QUEST FOR EASY AND CHEAP MONEY ATTRACTED HIM TO BE CALLED A PASTOR. WHAT HAD HE SUFFERED THAT OTHERS ARE SUFFERING. PLEASE SHOULD READ THE BIBLE. PAUL THE APOSTLE WAS A TENT MAKER AND WITH HIS HANDS HE TOOK GOOD CARE OF HIMSELF AND OTHERS. HE SUFFERED GREATLY BEFORE HE WAS MURDERED BY THE ENEMIES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. HE IS NOT, HE WAS NOT AND HE WILL NEVER QUALIFY AS A GOD SENT PASTOR. IN DEEPER LIFE BIBLE CHURCH PASTORS USED THEIR MONEY FOR GOD'S SERVICE NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND; ONLY FEW WHO ARE IN FULL TIME MINISTRY AND MAY BE MOVED FROM ONE STATE TO OTHERS OR COUNTRY. WE WORK; WE ARE NOT PARASITES.
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by Notatribalist(m): 9:47am On May 16|
KidsNEXTdoor:what exactly is the work of the church?is the pastor a government worker or church worker?
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by Jakama90(m): 9:51am On May 16|
He says he young minister cannot pay his rent, coupled with other bills that got him depressed and frustrated. Yet he works with a lucrative business company (Church).. Church!!! What went wrong?
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by D1zion: 9:51am On May 16|
Shame on most clergy's, especially those with big churches competing for biggest auditorium, private jets,wearing designers pants,shoes,wristwatches, cufflinks, ties,rings & driving exotic cars with body guard's. Their judgement will be different from every other Christian, they do nothing but exploit others to live large.that is why most people don't believe in them anymore.only but a handful of them can help out.may God bless TB Joshua who never look at your faith,if you're a Christian or Muslim, if you're a Catholic or Pentecostal, he never look at if you're rich or poor everyone is equal before him just like we are before God. He has not special seats for the rich folks in his synagogue, whatever you're, its in your house. The moment you're in the synagogue you're one.I so respect this man that I wish every man of God emulate him.the reason why they call him devil's advocate here on earth, they tag him with all manners of things.
Am a Christian but I feel so ashamed of most of our Christian clergy's,brothers & sister's. Never encouraged someone to the kingdom. Its a shame.especially this redeem church, they exploit there pastors a lot. Redeem is a business venture not what it is call led or seems to be.they recognized you only if you're rich.
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by NigeriaIsDoomed(m): 9:53am On May 16|
VivaLaFrans:No wahala but if person decide e no dey attend church again becuz of the abnormalies wey dey church now dem go see u like bad guy.
It is well o...
|Re: Michael Arowosaiye Suicide: Femi Fani-kayode Reacts To Death Of RCCG Minister by OritaIbadan: 9:54am On May 16|
VivaLaFrans:Stop deceiving yourself dear , all I have said is truth and nothing but the truth. RCCG is good at milking the poor
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