tintingz:
It's not my fault, I just want to get his logic.

aadoiza:

Seriously Aswear I don taya fur your matter

tintingz:
Don't get tire of logic and reasoning, it's healthy.

aadoiza:

You don't always apply logic, sometimes it's "ife inu". Besides logic does not always apply to God.

tintingz:
So, can we say the idea of your God is illogical?

aadoiza:

Of course not. But God transcends logic, which merely pertains to humans.

tintingz:
We're still saying same thing, since logic cannot be apply to God then he's illogical.

Empiree:
This tintingz of a thin...ehnnn

aadoiza:

This is one of your "ife inu" I was talking about. Logic or illogicality are constrained or limited but God is not.

Empiree:
This tintingz of a thin...ehnnn

tintingz:
God is not limited is your assumptions. Logic is limited to this universe, we can apply logic to things in this universe but outside the universe, we haven't experienced any, we will only be assuming fairytales and assumptions, we don't even know if there is outside.

God is supernatural and not only God, fairies, Santa, Leprechauns, Elves, unicorns etc are supernatural and logic cannot be apply to them. God is mysterious and do mysterious things, he do/does things as he will, so we can say God is illogical.

aadoiza:

Equating God with these...things you mentioned says alot. I don't know what to do with you again. Every possible line of argument has been exhausted on both sides.

If only I have some ruhaniya bent to my will you for learn.

tintingz:
You are finding it hard to accept God is illogical.

Ok, God is both logical and illogical, agree?

aadoiza:

No. It is you who are finding hard to comprehend that being illogical is not synonymous with being beyond logic. This is English, tintingz.

tintingz:
When something is beyond logic then it's not logical atleast in our universe.

When something is beyond physical then it's not physical.

When something is "beyond" it's outside the scope or understanding of it.

tintingz:
Don't get tire of logic and reasoning, it's healthy.

tintingz:
It's not my fault, I just want to get his logic.

budaatum:






Sorry tintingz. But you are not using "logic" nor "reasoning" nor do you want to "get" anyone's logic!

What you do is create 'concepts' in your head and shove it in other people's head, which is dishonest and tiring.

Ain't it great to have "Allah fuel", people!

Great for yọmuyọmu, mosquitoes will not bite you!

aadoiza:

This is one of your "ife inu" I was talking about. Logic or illogicality are constrained or limited but God is not.

aadoiza:

For example: tintingz what you did is beyond morality. Is it the same as tintingz is immoral?

budaatum:






Sorry tintingz. But you are not using "logic" nor "reasoning" nor do you want to "get" anyone's logic!

What you do is create 'concepts' in your head and shove it in other people's head, which is dishonest and tiring.

Ain't it great to have "Allah fuel", people!

Great for yọmuyọmu, mosquitoes will not bite you!

tintingz:
When something is beyond logic then it's not logical atleast in our universe.

tintingz:
When something is beyond physical then it's not physical.

tintingz:
When something is "beyond" it's outside the scope or understanding of it.

tintingz:
Muslims knows my arguments are what the Quran propose.

tintingz:


If you're arguing for Allah

I've asked you countless times to tell us the idea of God

If you want to argue,

budaatum:

No! Only in your head is "something is beyond logic then it's not logical"!

This your "beyond" is a problem. You better explain what you mean by it!

Nothing is "beyond logic". The illogical is a part of the universe. Unless you are saying "the universe is in your head" tingz.

Agreed. Though I disagree with your "beyond". Let me know if what you mean is,

"If a thing is not physical it is not physical", as in, "A thing is either physical or not physical".

"When something is "beyond" it's outside the scope or understanding of it", for you? Not for me! I go up the mountain and.......opps!

Nothing is beyond or "outside the scope of understanding" for me, tingz.

tintingz:

Can you give your definition of beyond?

budaatum:

Show me one single Muslim who "knows your arguments are what the Quran proposes" tingz!

One single Muslim on here.

budaatum:

I do not argue for any God tingz.
God does not need arguing for.

God is not an idea that you can get.
That's why you are an atheist or is it not?

Argue is for low mental.
I'm high mental. I reason!

budaatum:


Definition of Beyond
1 : something that lies on or to the farther side
2 : something that lies outside the scope of ordinary experience

budaatum:

To him, a thing is either logical or illogical. He can not understand how for you, a thing can be illogical and logical at the same time such that both logical and illogical are irrelevant.

It is beyond his mind, see. And so it should be. For as the Prophet Bob Marley ṣallā Allāhu ʿalayhi wa-ʿala āli-hi wa-sallam once said,

"Jah will never give the Power to a baldhead!"

Let me make Him sing it Himself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meKhfr_CjQ0

budaatum:

To him, a thing is either logical or illogical. He can not understand how for you, a thing can be illogical and logical at the same time such that both logical and illogical are irrelevant.

It is beyond his mind, see. And so it should be. For as the Prophet Bob Marley ṣallā Allāhu ʿalayhi wa-ʿala āli-hi wa-sallam once said,

"Jah will never give the Power to a baldhead!"

Let me make Him sing it Himself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meKhfr_CjQ0

tintingz:
Please define "beyond".

Note: My premise was that "I want to get the logic of @sino arguing for Allah" and @aadoiza said logic is not always apply to God that God is beyond logic.

My beyond is base on definition in the dictionary. And I gave example of it in my premise.

Illogical is the opposite/negative of logic.

Spiritual world is opposite/negative of natural world.

When something is not part of our universe then it's illogical to us here or can you deduce what's outside the universe?

Yes

Can you give your definition of beyond?