Toks2008:



I understand your ignorant post especially the last paragraph and this is because you have a shallow understanding of how things were in the Mosaic era.


A man pays 50 shekels of silver as penalty for rape and even after this he may still not be allowed to marry the lady.

The intelligent question anyone should ask is "is a woman’s body is valued at 50 shekels of silver?"

Digging deep in the Bible reveals that a superficial and judgmental reading of this passage would be a great mistake.

Firstly, how valuable is the woman’s body and her sexuality? A shekel weights about 11 grams and would be worth about $10 in our modern economy. But how much was a shekel worth more than 3000 years ago?

In the book of Numbers, when each firstborn in the nation of Israel was redeemed, life is valued at 5 shekels (Numbers 3:44-47). Yet in Deuteronomy, the woman’s body and purity is valued at 50 shekels - 10 times the life of a Israelite. If a slave was wounded by a bull, then there was a payment of 30 shekels of silver and the bull, a very expensive creature, had to be killed (Exodus 21:31-33). How valuable is the woman’s body? More valuable than life.

But what about the forced marriage? Again this is an act of protection. In the ancient world, if a woman was not a virgin then no man would marry her. She is tainted and so her life and hopes and dreams of a family and a community are broken and smashed. She would remain a spinster or may have to turn to prostitution with no husband to care and provide for her. The demand that the man marry the woman protects her. If he takes her virginity then he must marry her. Her sexuality is so essential to her personhood and womanhood that if a man has sex with her he is committed to her for the rest of his life and hers. An incredible value is placed on sex and a woman’s rights to her body.

Surely the consequences would make a man think more than twice before raping a woman. It will cost him all and probably more if it is discovered.

But it doesn’t stop there. The payment of the shekels of silver acts as a public acknowledgement that the man did wrong and violated this woman. The way he treated her would always be known and so the way he treated her in the future would always be under scrutiny. This would again protect the woman.

The Bible doesn’t legitimise rape. It protects sexuality and the value of sex in society. It protects a woman’s body and her rights to her body. It values a woman’s body at 10 times the value of a life

ibkayee:

You again

GoTV:

ibkayee:

Pinuc:
Talking about bride price, some communities does not collect the so called bride price but you have a long list of items to buy, at the end of the day, you are the one who will entertain your visitors on the day of traditional marriage which will take place in the family home of the bride which most time makes the marriage exorbitant.
Looking at the whole arrangement, you will see that, marriage and process of marrying in Africa should be revisited and redefined.
The truth remains that the man will always be the head of the union whether their is price or not. All I will suggest is that the cost of marriage should be brought down to the barest minimum where everyone who wants to marry can do so conveniently. In that case, it will be a win win situation for all.
Even in Europe and America where there is nothing like bride price, the man is still the head of the union but respects his wife. Remember also, that these countries have laws that protects the woman from being cheated or molested.

Ryan03:
Not until the bride price is returned, court paper wont hold. That is the main reason i hate it, but for me, i wish to pay for my wife

GoTV:



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ibkayee:

Hmm

GoTV:


Yea

ibkayee:

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Ryan03:
Not until the bride price is returned, court paper wont hold. That is the main reason i hate it, but for me, i wish to pay for my wife

Toks2008:


Your opening phrase has an error...you wrote Pride price so correct that....but the irony is that it should actually be tagged Pride price and not bride price cos These days there is no pride in most ladies we pay a huge price to marry.

Further more...the original purpose of bride price in the bible was to serve as punishment for rape and it was Abraham who first gave gifts to the family of his son's wife to be Rebecca who was a virgin at that time.

What is the point?

Bride price was made for virgins and any lady who is no longer a virgin deserves no bride price in the days of old but today the practice have been manipulated by greedy families that you still have to pay so much to marry a lady who has slept with every Kunle, Peter, Chinedu,Amodu...


My opinion is that we go back to the days of old and pay bride price for virgins only.

GoTV:



I sent u an attachment

bixton:
The kind of useless things one reads on NL is on the increase.

Pure kindergarten post.

Kindly edit your post........
Men pay dowry to get married.
Women pay bride price to be married.

bukatyne:


Woaw!

Has your sister tried to engage her husband towards a better relationship?

pocohantas:
I have never seen women collect bride price. It is always men collecting and sharing it.

One man pays, comes online to whine.

25yrs later, same man is billing another young man for his daughter.

Men are their own enemies.

Men will never stop collecting bride price, a practice they put in place to validate themselves.

#spits

pocohantas:



Oga, when they come to marry that your sister, tell your father not to collect.

Women should fix the mess you guys made?

When will you people start taking responsibility for your actions?

Even when God asked Adam simple question,
"Adam, where are you?", Adam started to talk another thing.

Centuries later, these sons of Adam are still blaming woman. Oh Gosh!!

oluwaseyi000:


Do marriage need bride price to succeed

ibkayee:

Don't see any attachment

hammerFC:



LET ME TELL U SOMETHING, IF I HAVE MY WAY, ONCE U HAVE PAID BRIDE PRICE AND MARRIED UR WIFE, IT IS NOT REFUNDABLE.

SINCE U HAVE ALREADY SLEPT WITH HER AND MISMANAGED UR HOME.

NEXT TIME, CHOOSE WISELY AND BE A BETTER MAN.

THE WHOLE POINT OF THE BRIDE PRICE SYSTEM IS TO MAKE SURE THAT MEN GO THROUGH THE MARRIAGE RITE ONCE BECOS IT IS EXPENSIVE.

SO WHERE IS THE SENSE IN REFUNDING BRIDE PRICE TO A MAN THAT COULD NOT MANAGE HIS HOME?

pocohantas:
I have never seen women collect bride price. It is always men collecting and sharing it.

One man pays, comes online to whine.

25yrs later, same man is billing another young man for his daughter.

Men are their own enemies.

Men will never stop collecting bride price, a practice they put in place to validate themselves.

#spits

Ryan03:
Lol, you make sense o but that is the tradition, nor be me put am. I think it is the money paid that binds them in the traditional setting so once the money is returned, the lady is free