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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by uzoma213(m): 11:55am On Jun 20, 2019
chiboy1116:
If Messi retires today he will still be the best player of his generation and those who don't see it knows nothing about football . Ronaldo is a great player but he's overrated when compared to Messi , let's take away their trophies cos those are won by teams . One of them scores , while the other scores , dribbles , creates lots of chances , is the best passer of the ball ever , is a fk specialist of late , and assists his teammates always . Who would u take . Be sincere


PS :according to uefa , those were friendly games .
The one who always scores when his team needs it the most

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Frankaka8(m): 11:57am On Jun 20, 2019
bosstim:
Please list Messi's achievements Biko, all what you'll be saying is how he has won a zillion titles with Barcelona, how he has won a trillion trophies with Barcelona, how he has scored a billion goals with Barcelona, how he's a master at nun camp (Barcelona's pitch), everything he has done is with Barcelona his comfort zone and you dare compare him with someone whose achievements cuts across the shores of Europe down to his own country Bros Abeg na try drop all this your baseless sentiments
quit reasoning with your anus.Winning trophies is team effort. Has Ronaldo won A PLAYER OF THE TOURNAMENT IN FIFA OR EURO Mind you, both individual and Team trophies, LEO is still ahead with 2years young career... Eder and Guedes help cr7 to win Euro and Nation league trophies in the final.... No one could help Leo even i the WORLDCUO FINAL....yet he has 1MVP IN WORLDCUP AND 3MVP IN COPA AMERICA. see you in Fifa gala night and Balon dor night. Las Las you go shutup
Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by jbblues24(m): 11:58am On Jun 20, 2019
Raydos:
I respect messi what he has done for Barcelona

But I respect Ronaldo for what he has done for football!!
Thank you

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by RevT1: 11:58am On Jun 20, 2019
timay:
Na wa o. What's going on with this Argentina team sef.


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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by SaddamHussein: 12:04pm On Jun 20, 2019
GoTV:
In life you can't have it all. Life itself is full of up and down moments. As great as Ronaldo Delima who won many trophies with Brazil including World Cup, he couldn't win the Champions League which players like Daniel sturridge won recently despite playing for almighty Madrid filled with super stars. Jay Jay okocha as good as he was never won the African footballer of the year award which fringe players like Adebayor and El-hadji diouf won.


Many of you trolling messi's predicament with Argentina are doing so due to high expectations and unimaginable standards he sets for himself. He's a victim of his brilliance no doubt but never forget winning trophies is not exclusive to a player effort. Football is a team sport but i wonder why you all blame messi when he has been unfortunate to be with paper weight team mates. An injured Ronaldo won the Euro cup due to the fighting spirit of the Portuguese players (credit to Eder) after Ronaldo led them to finals with his goals. Same as the recent nations league which guedes delivered and Bernardo silva emerged best player.


Ronaldo is the arrow head of the Portuguese team no doubt but his team mates deliver when he's not in charge, unlike messi whose team mates are big names on paper but play terribly despite his efforts to inspire them to glory. Higuain missed 3 decisive one on one chances against Germany in 2014 finals before gotze scored, chances fringe players like guedes and Eder converted to win Ronaldo the international trophies you all troll about. Everything in Argentine football must not be delivered by messi. It's a games of 11 players so why place the burden on only messi as if Portugal fields only Ronaldo against other teams? When Elder and guedes scored to win the trophy when it mattered most, you guys ignore their efforts and give all praises to Ronaldo. When Argentina team plays badly even if defenders scored own goal all blame goes to messi. Haba guys, what level of hypocrisy?


This is not to defend or absorb messi of his involvement in the failure of the Argentine's team to win a major afterall he missed a penalty against chile in previous Copa finals, but i think we are too harsh on him with unreasonable criticisms.

I hope Majority of you guys criticizing him have achieved all you desire in life? I hope there is nothing again you which to achieve or conquer? Can you have it all in life? No. Even Atiku with all his billions stills dreams of being a president. You can't have it all. Ronaldo is fortunate to be in a team with winning mentality, unlike messi. Despite all Cristiano Ronaldo has won in his career, he would also wish to have a world cup medal which players like Giroud won without scoring a goal. There is always something left to chase and achieve. Despite all this challenges It doesn't dispute the fact that messi is indeed amongst the greatest players to play the game.


Had he naturalized to spain like diego Costa during their golden era of winning euros and world cup, this debate of who the greatest is would have been buried. Even if Argentina wins this year's copa America, you Ronaldo fans will still troll messi to win another international trophy to match Ronaldo's two. Nothing messi does will ever satisfy you people.


He's a victim of his brillance. Simple


Guy. You are smart!

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by odomanis: 12:23pm On Jun 20, 2019
GoTV:
In life you can't have it all. Life itself is full of up and down moments. As great as Ronaldo Delima who won many trophies with Brazil including World Cup, he couldn't win the Champions League which players like Daniel sturridge won recently despite playing for almighty Madrid filled with super stars. Jay Jay okocha as good as he was never won the African footballer of the year award which fringe players like Adebayor and El-hadji diouf won.


Many of you trolling messi's predicament with Argentina are doing so due to high expectations and unimaginable standards he sets for himself. He's a victim of his brilliance no doubt but never forget winning trophies is not exclusive to a player effort. Football is a team sport but i wonder why you all blame messi when he has been unfortunate to be with paper weight team mates. An injured Ronaldo won the Euro cup due to the fighting spirit of the Portuguese players (credit to Eder) after Ronaldo led them to finals with his goals. Same as the recent nations league which guedes delivered and Bernardo silva emerged best player.




Ronaldo is the arrow head of the Portuguese team no doubt but his team mates deliver when he's not in charge, unlike messi whose team mates are big names on paper but play terribly despite his efforts to inspire them to glory. Higuain missed 3 decisive one on one chances against Germany in 2014 finals before gotze scored, chances fringe players like guedes and Eder converted to win Ronaldo the international trophies you all troll about. Everything in Argentine football must not be delivered by messi. It's a games of 11 players so why place the burden on only messi as if Portugal fields only Ronaldo against other teams? When Elder and guedes scored to win the trophy when it mattered most, you guys ignore their efforts and give all praises to Ronaldo. When Argentina team plays badly even if defenders scored own goal all blame goes to messi. Haba guys, what level of hypocrisy?


This is not to defend or absorb messi of his involvement in the failure of the Argentine's team to win a major afterall he missed a penalty against chile in previous Copa finals, but i think we are too harsh on him with unreasonable criticisms.

I hope Majority of you guys criticizing him have achieved all you desire in life? I hope there is nothing again you which to achieve or conquer? Can you have it all in life? No. Even Atiku with all his billions stills dreams of being a president. You can't have it all. Ronaldo is fortunate to be in a team with winning mentality, unlike messi. Despite all Cristiano Ronaldo has won in his career, he would also wish to have a world cup medal which players like Giroud won without scoring a goal. There is always something left to chase and achieve. Despite all this challenges It doesn't dispute the fact that messi is indeed amongst the greatest players to play the game.


Had he naturalized to spain like diego Costa during their golden era of winning euros and world cup, this debate of who the greatest is would have been buried. Even if Argentina wins this year's copa America, you Ronaldo fans will still troll messi to win another international trophy to match Ronaldo's two. Nothing messi does will ever satisfy you people.


He's a victim of his brillance. Simple

Nobody, to the best of my knowledge is saying that Messi is not a good player. What the grouse is, is the irrational attempt to compare him with CR7. An excellent player should excel in any team,at any league. Messi has never carried the Agentine team all by his shoulders to success. On the other hand CR7 has done that for Portugal right from when they didn't have stars that you sighted above. CR7 excelled in Portugal,he also excelled in the most competitive and most difficult league for any player,the English premier league,he has also excelled in Spain and now excelling in Italian league. On the other hand ,Messi has remained in spain,he should leave his comfort zone lets see how he can adjust,adapt, integrate and excell just like CR7. Messi is good but,CR7 is the BEST.

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by timay(m): 12:24pm On Jun 20, 2019
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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by chiboy1116: 12:31pm On Jun 20, 2019
uzoma213:
The one who always scores when his team needs it the most
okay . But that's both of them . U cant score of u don't get the ball in the right places .
Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by ozoebuka1(m): 12:35pm On Jun 20, 2019
kessdivine4all:


Dey there dey type rubbish , in football your stats and results tell the story. If you would tell yourself the truth, you will realize that Argentina has better players than Portugal, but one man Ronaldo is the difference, that is the real deal , let Messi do the same. Did you watch the match yesterday? Messi's goal was even a penalty and Parag. threw away their penalty which would have sent Messi back to his comfort zone of Barca. There is just one player that is the real GOAT - RONALDO
How has Ronaldo been the difference? In both finals which he played that got him the two trophies he has he never scored nor assisted in anyone of them; in fact, he's never won man of the match in any of of the finals and it has been other Portuguese players that has always saved his ass...but Messi has always scored or assisted in all the finals he's played and he has always won man of the match in all of them... So, that Messi has been unlucky with Argentina will never diminish his brilliance to those who know football... It's only miscreants and low IQ people that will compare Messi and Ronaldo and still have the effrontery to say that Ronaldo is better than Messi.
Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by MrMou: 12:35pm On Jun 20, 2019
Martinez19:
You are acting like the Portuguese national team is better than the Argentine national team. Be sincere with yourself, Argentina have had a FAR SUPERIOR TEAM from 2007-2018. Only recently did the Argentine squad become trash, not because the Portuguese team got better but they fumbled in their squad selection. Despite this Argentina still has quality players that better than most of the Portuguese players to select from. Given this, why has Messi not won any international trophy? If Ronaldo had played in Argentina, he would have won the world Cup.
This same Portugal team you want to downgrade because you want to hype the tap-in merchant defeated France in France in their most important match in history WITHOUT him! Argentina can't do that.
The tap-in merchant has won 2 international trophies, yet he wasn't even Portugal's best player in those tournaments, talk less of being the entire tournament's best player. Messi enters finals & wins best player of the tournaments, yet, he doesn't win the competition. That should tell you something about the respective teams! That should tell you that if Messi had this Portugal team, he would have won FOUR international trophies including 1 world cup whether he flops in all the finals or runs away like some tap-in merchant. No be by big name forwards wey you get; na by team balance & fighting spirit wey coach dey put for him team.

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by timay(m): 12:48pm On Jun 20, 2019
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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Roushy(m): 12:54pm On Jun 20, 2019
MrMou:

This same Portugal team you want to downgrade because you want to hype the tap-in merchant defeated France in France in their most important match in history WITHOUT him! Argentina can't do that.
The tap-in merchant has won 2 international trophies, yet he wasn't even Portugal's best player in those tournaments, talk less of being the entire tournament's best player. Messi enters finals & wins best player of the tournaments, yet, he doesn't win the competition. That should tell you something about the respective teams! That should tell you that if Messi had this Portugal team, he would have won FOUR international trophies including 1 world cup whether he flops in all the finals or runs away like some tap-in merchant. No be by big name forwards wey you get; na by team balance & fighting spirit!

I don't know how you guys are coming to the conclusion that the Portugal team has been better than Argentina team. Check the fifa rankings, Argentina was around top 3 for along time till 2017 with Portugal struggling to make top 10... So how is Portugal better?

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by frankmoney(m): 1:12pm On Jun 20, 2019
MrMou:

You fans of the tap-in merchant lie too much! What's the meaning of "singlehandedly"? You think say na only you watch the Euros? Did he not score the same number of goals in the tournament as Nani?
If Messi had that Portugal team, he'd have won 4 trophies including a world cup whether he flops so bad in the final or runs away in the finals like a certain tap-in merchant.
lol compare the players in Argentina and Portugal ... And tell me which final Messi has turned up ... Is it ... The last Copa America that the overrated Barca midget missed a penalty ? Or world cup final he was running around like a headless chicken .... If Ronaldo had Argentina team he would have won the world cup twice ... But put Messi in Portugal and they won't get out of group stage .I bet messi was begging for a tap in to win Paraguay ... He even used a penalty to score if it was Ronaldo you midget fan boys won't let us hear word

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Martinez19(m): 1:24pm On Jun 20, 2019
MrMou:

This same Portugal team you want to downgrade because you want to hype the tap-in merchant defeated France in France in their most important match in history WITHOUT him! Argentina can't do that.
Hush my friend! Where did I downgrade Portugal? Didn't you watch the match to know that France were the better team? Didn't you see how France pressuried Portugal and played them well? Portugal were on a thin rope in that match. To make matters worse, they were without Ronaldo. They prepared well but their victory can be attributed to luck for the most part. Don't act like Portugal were better than France to have beaten France. France were more superior.

In the 2012 ucl final, Bayern well better than Chelsea but Chelsea still won.

The tap-in merchant has won 2 international trophies, yet he wasn't even Portugal's best player in those tournaments, talk less of being the entire tournament's best player. Messi enters finals & wins best player of the tournaments, yet, he doesn't win the competition. That should tell you something about the respective teams! That should tell you that if Messi had this Portugal team, he would have won FOUR international trophies including 1 world cup whether he flops in all the finals or runs away like some tap-in merchant. No be by big name forwards wey you get; na by team balance & fighting spirit wey coach dey put for him team.
Yen yen yen yen yen yen yen. The Argentine team from 2007 - 2018 are way more superior and have balance — solid balance. The big names they've fielded are not mere names. In the semi finals of Nations League, it was clear Portugal were outplayed and they had no balance but Ronaldo's efforts saved the day. During Euro 2016, who saved Portugal from being eliminated in the group after a very terrible start?


Ronaldo remains the GOAT.

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Martinez19(m): 1:26pm On Jun 20, 2019
Roushy:


I don't know how you guys are coming to the conclusion that the Portugal team has been better than Argentina team. Check the fifa rankings, Argentina was around top 3 for along time till 2017 with Portugal struggling to make top 10... So how is Portugal better?
Don't mind MrMou. He just bias. Then if Portugal and Argentina of those days happened to meet, I would put my money on Argentina even those I love Ronaldo.

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Beverlyjean(f): 1:27pm On Jun 20, 2019
Blabbermouth:

Ronaldo fans are zombies that know not the obvious; that goal isnt the only shit in football. . Well I don't blame u guys tho bcus that is the only thing your GOAT can offer..(quality-less goals with a load of tap-ins and penalty)

Really ...goals ain't the only shit.. do y do they kick the ball around?? What's the main purpose ?? To smile to the cameras??

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Blabbermouth: 1:34pm On Jun 20, 2019
Beverlyjean:


Really ...goals ain't the only shit.. do y do they kick the ball around?? What's the main purpose ?? To smile to the cameras??
U know nothing Beverlyjean
Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by afroxyz: 1:40pm On Jun 20, 2019
GoTV:
In life you can't have it all. Life itself is full of up and down moments. As great as Ronaldo Delima who won many trophies with Brazil including World Cup, he couldn't win the Champions League which players like Daniel sturridge won recently despite playing for almighty Madrid filled with super stars. Jay Jay okocha as good as he was never won the African footballer of the year award which fringe players like Adebayor and El-hadji diouf won.


Many of you trolling messi's predicament with Argentina are doing so due to high expectations and unimaginable standards he sets for himself. He's a victim of his brilliance no doubt but never forget winning trophies is not exclusive to a player effort. Football is a team sport but i wonder why you all blame messi when he has been unfortunate to be with paper weight team mates. An injured Ronaldo won the Euro cup due to the fighting spirit of the Portuguese players (credit to Eder) after Ronaldo led them to finals with his goals. Same as the recent nations league which guedes delivered and Bernardo silva emerged best player.


Ronaldo is the arrow head of the Portuguese team no doubt but his team mates deliver when he's not in charge, unlike messi whose team mates are big names on paper but play terribly despite his efforts to inspire them to glory. Higuain missed 3 decisive one on one chances against Germany in 2014 finals before gotze scored, chances fringe players like guedes and Eder converted to win Ronaldo the international trophies you all troll about. Everything in Argentine football must not be delivered by messi. It's a games of 11 players so why place the burden on only messi as if Portugal fields only Ronaldo against other teams? When Elder and guedes scored to win the trophy when it mattered most, you guys ignore their efforts and give all praises to Ronaldo. When Argentina team plays badly even if defenders scored own goal all blame goes to messi. Haba guys, what level of hypocrisy?


This is not to defend or absorb messi of his involvement in the failure of the Argentine's team to win a major afterall he missed a penalty against chile in previous Copa finals, but i think we are too harsh on him with unreasonable criticisms.

I hope Majority of you guys criticizing him have achieved all you desire in life? I hope there is nothing again you which to achieve or conquer? Can you have it all in life? No. Even Atiku with all his billions stills dreams of being a president. You can't have it all. Ronaldo is fortunate to be in a team with winning mentality, unlike messi. Despite all Cristiano Ronaldo has won in his career, he would also wish to have a world cup medal which players like Giroud won without scoring a goal. There is always something left to chase and achieve. Despite all this challenges It doesn't dispute the fact that messi is indeed amongst the greatest players to play the game.


Had he naturalized to spain like diego Costa during their golden era of winning euros and world cup, this debate of who the greatest is would have been buried. Even if Argentina wins this year's copa America, you Ronaldo fans will still troll messi to win another international trophy to match Ronaldo's two. Nothing messi does will ever satisfy you people.


He's a victim of his brillance. Simple

when Maradona went to Napoli, please tell me the exceptional players there. When he won the world cup, the squad Maradona had is not as complete as Messi's Argentine squad. they got to the world cup and Copa America finals aan you are blaming his team mates. Like seriously? was it not the same team mates that played with messi that took Argentina to those finals? or do you think they dont want to win laurels? The only sensible you wrote is messi being a victim of his brilliance. Apart from that, please stop making useless excuses.

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Martinez19(m): 1:41pm On Jun 20, 2019
Beverlyjean:


Really ...goals ain't the only shit.. do y do they kick the ball around?? What's the main purpose ?? To smile to the cameras??
Lol. Are you minding the olodo?Compare a team that scores goals but have no skills to a team that has skills but scores no goals. Goal is to football as money is to life. Just as our survival and comfort cost money, the progressive and success of a team requires goals. Wouldn't it sound funny when a team has skills but didn't score through out the season?

There are many skillful players but few are recognised and respected because only these few have their skills scoring goals, building goals and winning top trophies. That's why Zidane, Ronaldo delima, Ronaldinho etc. were respected for their skills. If a footballer is skillful yet can't score, assist or win top trophies, he becomes a laughing stock many don't know and he soon fades into oblivion. It's similar to life. If your skill or intellect doesn't produce money and major intellectual contributions, you are not really a "somebody."

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Beverlyjean(f): 1:47pm On Jun 20, 2019
chiboy1116:
if Messi plays from the middle , he won't have anyone to pass to . If he stays upfront like Ronaldo does, he won't get the ball in the right places . So tell me , what would be your solution to this problem?

When Portugal won the Euros ...did they have a striker?? Did they have a good midfielder... What's the difference between these Argentine midfielders and the Portuguese midfielders at the Euros

Quaresma... Fluntuates and can't completes full time
Moutinho... Average ( never played for a top club)
João mario... Dead
Vierinha.... Unknown
Andre Gomez ... Dead
Renato Sanchez... Inexperienced
Rafa silver... unknown
William cavarlho ... average
Danilo...average
Andre silver... Dead

Those are the names of the entire midfielders Portugal used in the euros to win it... Not one played for a top European club... All were in Portuguese league , apart from moutinho that was in the French league and quaresma that was in the Turkish league... The only two superstar in the team was Ronaldo and there was Nani that never hit it big and Pepe that is red card prone...

But they still won the euros that is the second most difficult cup to win after the world cup... And remember,they had never won anything in their history...
But u guys are there making excuses for Messi....

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by GEEBITE: 1:54pm On Jun 20, 2019
You guys are funny. Maradona took a team of average players to two world cup finals back to back and won once.Pele as kid came on and change the course of a team of superstars in the semi final(akin to what MBAPPE is doing now) He still did it as an oldie(those days at 30+ you are finished in football) in 1970 when he wasnt even their best player when the chips were down. That is the stuff of legends.Not dribbling across people in La Liga and some Champions league games only.
eni4real:
Those that blame Messi are simply happy with his misery in the national team.

But that will not stop Messi from being the best...

No Superstar in history has ever played with such ineffective teammates!!!

People mention Cristiano but Portugal rose in FIFA ranking when Ronaldo was not even available to make them win all their games in the UEFA nations League.
That is a good team.
People said Euro 2016 final is due to his motivation but what about Confederation cup 3rd place, what about UNL before the semi final, why is Bernaldo Silva the best player in the tournament

Mention any Superstar : Zizou, R9, Maradona, Pele. None of them has teammates that can't even complete passes...

Just watch the present Argentina team if I am exaggerating...

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Martinez19(m): 1:55pm On Jun 20, 2019
afroxyz:


when Maradona went to Napoli, please tell me the exceptional players there. When he won the world cup, the squad Maradona had is not as complete as Messi's Argentine squad. they got to the world cup and Copa America finals aan you are blaming his team mates. Like seriously? was it not the same team mates that played with messi that took Argentina to those finals? or do you think they dont want to win laurels? The only sensible you wrote is messi being a victim of his brilliance. Apart from that, please stop making useless excuses.
Before Maradona, Napoli was substandard and couldn't smell Seria A in a million years. With Maradona, they won their first Seria A in 1987, finished runner up twice in 1988 and in 1989 and then won it in 1990. Within that same four years, he won the Coppa Italia in 1987 and finished runner up in 1987. Napoli also won the UEFA Cup in 1989 and the Italian super cup in 1990. If Messi, the so called god, left Barcelona to Napoli today, pundits won't say that Messi will dominate instead they will be asking "can he survive without barca?", "will he do well?" grin

Ewu(goat) wey dey like anfield grass. grin

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by CUPIDsparrow(m): 1:55pm On Jun 20, 2019
GoTV:
In life you can't have it all. Life itself is full of up and down moments. As great as Ronaldo Delima who won many trophies with Brazil including World Cup, he couldn't win the Champions League which players like Daniel sturridge won recently despite playing for almighty Madrid filled with super stars. Jay Jay okocha as good as he was never won the African footballer of the year award which fringe players like Adebayor and El-hadji diouf won.


Many of you trolling messi's predicament with Argentina are doing so due to high expectations and unimaginable standards he sets for himself. He's a victim of his brilliance no doubt but never forget winning trophies is not exclusive to a player effort. Football is a team sport but i wonder why you all blame messi when he has been unfortunate to be with paper weight team mates. An injured Ronaldo won the Euro cup due to the fighting spirit of the Portuguese players (credit to Eder) after Ronaldo led them to finals with his goals. Same as the recent nations league which guedes delivered and Bernardo silva emerged best player.


Ronaldo is the arrow head of the Portuguese team no doubt but his team mates deliver when he's not in charge, unlike messi whose team mates are big names on paper but play terribly despite his efforts to inspire them to glory. Higuain missed 3 decisive one on one chances against Germany in 2014 finals before gotze scored, chances fringe players like guedes and Eder converted to win Ronaldo the international trophies you all troll about. Everything in Argentine football must not be delivered by messi. It's a games of 11 players so why place the burden on only messi as if Portugal fields only Ronaldo against other teams? When Elder and guedes scored to win the trophy when it mattered most, you guys ignore their efforts and give all praises to Ronaldo. When Argentina team plays badly even if defenders scored own goal all blame goes to messi. Haba guys, what level of hypocrisy?


This is not to defend or absorb messi of his involvement in the failure of the Argentine's team to win a major afterall he missed a penalty against chile in previous Copa finals, but i think we are too harsh on him with unreasonable criticisms.

I hope Majority of you guys criticizing him have achieved all you desire in life? I hope there is nothing again you which to achieve or conquer? Can you have it all in life? No. Even Atiku with all his billions stills dreams of being a president. You can't have it all. Ronaldo is fortunate to be in a team with winning mentality, unlike messi. Despite all Cristiano Ronaldo has won in his career, he would also wish to have a world cup medal which players like Giroud won without scoring a goal. There is always something left to chase and achieve. Despite all this challenges It doesn't dispute the fact that messi is indeed amongst the greatest players to play the game.


Had he naturalized to spain like diego Costa during their golden era of winning euros and world cup, this debate of who the greatest is would have been buried. Even if Argentina wins this year's copa America, you Ronaldo fans will still troll messi to win another international trophy to match Ronaldo's two. Nothing messi does will ever satisfy you people.


He's a victim of his brillance. Simple
All dis your long note to what??Oga shift let me pass...la messi fan spotted

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by GEEBITE: 2:00pm On Jun 20, 2019
Only Careca of Brazil he had and they were facing hard nail defenders in the Baresi brothers of both AC and Inter.A man took a team from backwater Sicilian island to glory of Scudeto and European triumph. He took a step down from Barcelona and conquer,let Messi try this too before I can measure him against Maradona. In Argentina it is a sin to compare Messi to a player that a temple is set up and people are worshipping him despite his human foibles.
afroxyz:


when Maradona went to Napoli, please tell me the exceptional players there. When he won the world cup, the squad Maradona had is not as complete as Messi's Argentine squad. they got to the world cup and Copa America finals aan you are blaming his team mates. Like seriously? was it not the same team mates that played with messi that took Argentina to those finals? or do you think they dont want to win laurels? The only sensible you wrote is messi being a victim of his brilliance. Apart from that, please stop making useless excuses.

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by GEEBITE: 2:02pm On Jun 20, 2019
Your head is well lubricated.He can not even be called the greatest argentine footballer of all time,not to talk of the whole world.After Maradona,he will queue behind Mario Kempes. cest fini
Martinez19:
Before Maradona, Napoli was substandard and couldn't smell Seria A in a million years. With Maradona, they won their first Seria A in 1987, finished runner up twice in 1988 and in 1989 and then won it in 1990. If Messi, the so called god, left Barcelona to Napoli today, pundits won't say that Messi will dominate instead they will be asking "can he survive without barca?", "will he do well?" grin

Ewu(goat) wey dey like anfield grass. grin

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Martinez19(m): 2:05pm On Jun 20, 2019
GEEBITE:
Only Careca of Brazil he had and they were facing hard nail defenders in the Baresi brothers of both AC and Inter.A man took a team from backwater Sicilian island to glory of Scudeto and European triumph. He took a step down from Barcelona and conquer,let Messi try this too before I can measure him against Maradona. In Argentina it is a sin to compare Messi to a player that a temple is set up and people are worshipping him despite his human foibles.
True. Football then was very rough and Italy had the toughest defenders. Player like Neymar wouldn't survive Maradona's time.
Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Beverlyjean(f): 2:09pm On Jun 20, 2019
Beedude:
Messi's greatest regret would be not choosing Spain ahead of Argentina in 2006. But that's life, every has a regret

George weahs greatest regret is not choosing France ahead of Liberia... Look at the nonsense u typed... In other words u should not compare him with Ronaldo cos Ronaldo also has a weak national team but he took up the challenge and won their first two major trophies...
Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by CUPIDsparrow(m): 2:11pm On Jun 20, 2019
Andrewkinggg:
When you speak on Messi, speak it with respect and deference.
I see it is travesty that Ronaldo is put in the same pedestal as Messi. Messi is way way way ahead of Ronaldo.
It's a big insult to say Ronaldo is better because he had won 2 trophies with his national team forgetting trophies are team achievements. Portugal won the trophies and not Ronaldo. In those 2 finals Portugal played, Ronaldo fired blank, he was completely inefftctive on the field.

I'm going end this argument once and for all. Most of us has seen Okocha and Mikel Obi played. Okocha has played in the highest level of football with the national team but has failed to lift the continental nations cup whereas Mikel Obi has lifted the Nations Cup. My question is who is the greatest Nigerian Player between these two?

Let's know who knows their football.
Oga Mikel is the greatest, cos he won it for both club and country. Who fancy football epp? if you don't know,the greatest goal of playing football is to win trophies

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by eltata(m): 2:18pm On Jun 20, 2019
DimIsaac10:
Argentina is just like super eagles.. When Honourable Messi retires, Barcelona and Argentina go hear am... Una no notice something, as Senegal sabi play ball reach, dem never carry Nation cup before.
I think the problem with Argentina in this Copa Nations Cup is partly due to messi and the coach. I noticed that with messi on the team, the coach cannot play two proper wingers and two strikers upfront in a match cos he would not want to distort messi"s position which is from the right side of the attack, making the formation always 4-3-3 without tweaking in the full 90 mins thereby making Angel D maria and Arguero useless in every game. The coach should instead try a messi in the central midfield (10) position and play a conventional 4-4-2 with di maria and Los Celso as proper wingers, while arguero and martinez strikes

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Jokerman(m): 2:22pm On Jun 20, 2019
MrMou:

You fans of the tap-in merchant lie too much! What's the meaning of "singlehandedly"? You think say na only you watch the Euros? Did he not score the same number of goals in the tournament as Nani?
If Messi had that Portugal team, he'd have won 4 trophies including a world cup whether he flops so bad in the final or runs away in the finals like a certain tap-in merchant.

Lol... Ronaldo is not a failure who will play 4 finals and lose all na..... grin

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Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by Nobody: 2:22pm On Jun 20, 2019
GEEBITE:
You guys are funny. Maradona took a team of average players to two world cup finals back to back and won once.Pele as kid came on and change the course of a team of superstars in the semi final(akin to what MBAPPE is doing now) He still did it as an oldie(those days at 30+ you are finished in football) in 1970 when he wasnt even their best player when the chips were down. That is the stuff of legends.Not dribbling across people in La Liga and some Champions league games only.
Average team that score 3 goals in the final while Maradona was not on the score sheet.

Buruchaga is average
Valdano is Average
Pasarella is average??

Don't be deceived by folktales.

All their videos are available on the YouTube

Check up Argentina vs Germany 1986 World cup final. And see how those average players perform compare with this mediocre teammates of Messi...

No credit to Carlos Bilardo, the Coach??

My question for you..

Why can't Maradona perform following Claudio Cannigia suspension in Italia 90 final
Re: Argentina 1-1 Paraguay: Messi Goal Not Enough As Albiceleste Still On Bottom by MrMou: 2:23pm On Jun 20, 2019
Martinez19:
Hush my friend! Where did I downgrade Portugal? Didn't you watch the match to know that France were the better team? Didn't you see how France pressuried Portugal and played them well? Portugal were on a thin rope in that match. To make matters worse, they were without Ronaldo. They prepared well but their victory can be attributed to luck for the most part. Don't act like Portugal were better than France to have beaten France. France were more superior.
In the 2012 ucl final, Bayern well better than Chelsea but Chelsea still won.
See mumu talk! So you expected Portugal to outplay France in France with the tap-in merchant before, ba? When no be say na Barca or City France dey play? Nawa o! Team that had a whole 47% possession against France with France having ZERO shot on target in extra time when pressure suppose dey pass no try reach, ba? Your mcm was around when Portugal were struggling to take their game against ordinary Poland to penalties but you somehow think he would have made Portugal outplay a whole France in France! Nothing wey person no go hear from sycophants of the tap-in merchant!


Yen yen yen yen yen yen yen. The Argentine team from 2007 - 2018 are way more superior and have balance — solid balance. The big names they've fielded are not mere names.
So tell us why the "super" Argentina has to wait for only Messi to deliver in the finals unlike an "average" Portugal that wins finals effortlessly without the tap-in merchant?
Your mcm has won 2 international trophies & he still wasn't Portugal's best player in any of the tournaments! How do you explain that? Doesn't that tell you something?

In the semi finals of Nations League, it was clear Portugal were outplayed and they had no balance but Ronaldo's efforts saved the day.
Team wey go unbeaten throughout the tournament before the glory hunting tap-in merchant joined in again wouldn't have defeated Switzerland without him, ba? Na him help them win all those matches wey them win before him show ba? Na him help them win against Holland wey dey hot too, ba? Nothing wey person no go hear from sycophants of the tap-in merchant.
During Euro 2016, who saved Portugal from being eliminated in the group after a very terrible start?
I no understand! Are you trying to give Nani's glory to your mcm? Nani scored in 2 group stage matches including in the only match your mcm scored & you want to give the tap-in merchant Nani's glory? Nawa o!

Ronaldo remains the GOAT.
Obviously only to his extremely deluded sycophants!

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