AgreatMan:
If you think rain or mud is slippery, try snow.

There r airports in countries with like Russia, Canada, China, UK etc where they r snow but things things like this don't come up.

No excuse for failure o. That plane tire don chop, make them go replace am and resurface d tarmac. They should also check the brakes on the aircraft or perhaps, consider replacing some of their flying Dinosaurs.

Exactly what I was discussing with my colleagues today.

In Nigerian, Potholes and avoidable accidents are the only indicators that the runways need fixing.

On the other hand, greed won't allow the airline coys carry out any meaningful repairs...

Zero maintenance culture. Everything is patch and go till the inevitable happen.

AgreatMan:
If you think rain or mud is slippery, try snow.

There r airports in countries with like Russia, Canada, China, UK etc where they r snow but things things like this don't come up.

No excuse for failure o. That plane tire don chop, make them go replace am and resurface d tarmac. They should also check the brakes on the aircraft or perhaps, consider replacing some of their flying Dinosaurs.

God bless you!

amaks:
Serious. Thank God no life was lost. Passengers should be thanking God for a second chance of life. Landing is usually a dangerous phase of the flight. Do the rain contribute? Hope this will be investigated thoroughly to prevent reoccurence. And all recommendations from the investigation implemented and sustained. Not just swept under the carpet.

In a sane country, this wouldn't even happen and if it does, your last two sentences woukd suffice. My dearest country does not believe in preventive maintenance.

Originalsly:


They should've shutdown the airports and delay/divert flights until weather conditions improved... that's the international practice.Guess these guys just remembered after the storm... after the accident... and decided it's better late than never.

Exactly, but trust them, no communication to customers until it was around 5pm. And they had to shutdown all operations when weather became very very ok. Meanwhile the plane wasn't actually blocking the runway as it veered off completely. Same plane was supposed to take us back to Abj. Nevertheless, thank God for the pax and entire crew.

dingbang:
wait. So even tomorrow that is Sunday, they won't fly still?

We are still hopeful. No information yet

otokx:


They should make alternative arrangements via the city airport at airforce base.

NAFBASE is like airstrip for light planes.

Reference:


Probably the only functional runway and it will remain closed until the aircraft can he removed which is not an easy task in the mud.

It's really unfortunate. You needed to see their contingency management plan. Ver very poor for a supposed international Airport. Well we will improve by fire by force. Even comedian Gordons was just moving helplessly as we were all together in the mess

OakPearl:


In their confused state without an iotta of an idea on what to do, they think shutting down the airspace is the wisest thing to do.

No regard for the time and schedule of the ordinary Nigerian.

Their contingency management plan was and still really poor....

Racoon:
Feel your pain sir.I was once trapped too.God have a reason for every of our disappointment in life.

Thanks for your concerns Sir. God knows best. But the last minute grounding of entire PHC airspace was actually uncalled for.

AgreatMan:
If you think rain or mud is slippery, try snow.

There r airports in countries with like Russia, Canada, China, UK etc where they r snow but things things like this don't come up.

No excuse for failure o. That plane tire don chop, make them go replace am and resurface d tarmac. They should also check the brakes on the aircraft or perhaps, consider replacing some of their flying Dinosaurs.

I'm sure all these countries you just mentioned do have proper house keeping (maintenance crew) - that works 24-7.
The question we should ask ourselves - what were the airport management doing to avoid such encounters. We should have personnels clearing the runway of any debris, water-logged area etc. They have the timelines of every flight leaving and coming in.

Probably I might be wrong but then good house keeping would surely help since it rained.

AgreatMan:


1. If a snow fall is too thin, it will be slippery.
2. If a snow fall is thick, it will have incredible grip.
3. When a thick snowfall begins to melt towards d afternoon, it will be slippery.
4. When d temperature drops further at night, snow would turn to ice. This one is worst. Your all wheel drive cannot help u. If u don't walk with tactics, u must fall. U cannot even of think of riding a bike or anything that does not have four wheels. Na skating level u dey.

Snow go make u Understand say mud na your friend.

Hydroplaning u talking about is just theory. I have given u d 4 possibilities and only point number 2 has grip.

What was his point exactly?

AgreatMan:


1. If a snow fall is too thin, it will be slippery.
2. If a snow fall is thick, it will have incredible grip.
3. When a thick snowfall begins to melt towards d afternoon, it will be slippery.
4. When d temperature drops further at night, snow would turn to ice. This one is worst. Your all wheel drive cannot help u. If u don't walk with tactics, u must fall. U cannot even of think of riding a bike or anything that does not have four wheels. Na skating level u dey.

Snow go make u Understand say mud na your friend.

Hydroplaning u talking about is just theory. I have given u d 4 possibilities and only point number 2 has grip.

you are right but you instincts should tell you that,
there is a winter tyre and there is Summer tyre.
winter tyre are made for snow and Summer are made for high temperature.
but in Nigeria we don't have winter nor summer especially in southern part.
so no rain tyre until they start designing that, spare me this.
also from your previous statement, plane overshoot occur in different part of the world I had experience once in Singerpor so let stop all this it only Nigeria thing.
many thing are happening outside Nigeria that you don't know anything about.

AgreatMan:


1. If a snow fall is too thin, it will be slippery.
2. If a snow fall is thick, it will have incredible grip.
3. When a thick snowfall begins to melt towards d afternoon, it will be slippery.
4. When d temperature drops further at night, snow would turn to ice. This one is worst. Your all wheel drive cannot help u. If u don't walk with tactics, u must fall. U cannot even of think of riding a bike or anything that does not have four wheels. Na skating level u dey.

Snow go make u Understand say mud na your friend.

Hydroplaning u talking about is just theory. I have given u d 4 possibilities and only point number 2 has grip.

@AgreatMan says hydroplanning is a theory. What a World.

Stallion2019:


Exactly what I was discussing with my colleagues today.

In Nigerian, Potholes and avoidable accidents are the only indicators that the runways need fixing.

On the other hand, greed won't allow the airline coys carry out any meaningful repairs...

Zero maintenance culture. Everything is patch and go till the inevitable happen.

@stallion2019 meaningful maintenance before meaningful repairs. Their culture? 'If it isn't broken why fix it?'

PatrioticNaija:
We all are still stranded in PHC because of this incident. All flights in/out of PHC were cancelled. I am missing my family already..........

. It is well, thank God you are alive, you will still see your family,� what the worst had happened.

drunk pilots.

Eeyah! These ones no go near aeroplane again

PatrioticNaija:


NAFBASE is like airstrip for light planes.

Light planes that cab sit 30 - 40 people at least can still go some way.

Any update if the airport has reopened, the rain this morning appears to be heavy and all over Greater Port Harcourt

PatrioticNaija:


We are still hopeful. No information yet

ok

quentin06:
drunk pilots.

dont say that.

AgreatMan:
If you think rain or mud is slippery, try snow.

There r airports in countries with like Russia, Canada, China, UK etc where they r snow but things things like this don't come up.

No excuse for failure o. That plane tire don chop, make them go replace am and resurface d tarmac. They should also check the brakes on the aircraft or perhaps, consider replacing some of their flying Dinosaurs.

There could be a lot of reasons, poor visibility, faulty radar equipment on the part of the airport, faulty instrument landing support equipment on the part of the airport, hydroplaning (this is fact not theory),
faulty reverse thrusters on the aircraft, error on the part of the pilots etc. Wait for the AIB to conclude their investigations and give us the result. And FYI, planes have overrun tarmac in the USA, Japan, china, Canada, France and UK. It is not unusual.

Originalsly:
Hmmm...interesting. Rainfall was concentrated in the area.... couldn't the pilot circle until the storm subsided?...or was he low on fuel?... With such rain... there is usually high winds ... was shear a factor?...which usually result in planes skidding off the strip?.. Heavy rains mean low visibility... were there lights on the runway to guide the pilot?... if not ...maybe he misjudged the strip. Is there good drainage for the rains to quickly run off... or was it all flooded? The good thing is... there is enough room for the plane to safely come to a stop. They need to investigate and take corrective actions.

Exactly the sort of questions we should be asking. Not to say it won't happen abroad or hydroplaning is a theory.

Jarus:
The airline has been having too many incidents in recent times. Not good for it.

And that scares some of us that use it up to 4 times a month, including yesterday.

Had same thoughts some days back on my way from lagos back to Abuja on June the 11th. Flight was for 8:15am but was shifted to 2pm (I heard the national assembly guys chartered the plane for their activities in abuja). After boarding, it took them a long time to take off as a result of bringing additional people on board who I'm suspecting were originally for 11am flight. They overloaded that plane and it was the scariest flight of my life. We had difficulty landing.

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dingbang:
ok

9am now...... everyone still stranded and......
Up till now the aircraft has still not been removed

Sometimes it's good to appreciate what we have,and I think that Airline deserve some respect looking back to the history of their operation till date, maybe we should continue to pray for more improvement instead, thanks for your concern anyway.quote author=AgreatMan post=79578552]If you think rain or mud is slippery, try snow.

There r airports in countries with like Russia, Canada, China, UK etc where they r snow but things things like this don't come up.

No excuse for failure o. That plane tire don chop, make them go replace am and resurface d tarmac. They should also check the brakes on the aircraft or perhaps, consider replacing some of their flying Dinosaurs.[/quote]

AgreatMan:
If you think rain or mud is slippery, try snow.

There r airports in countries with like Russia, Canada, China, UK etc where they r snow but things things like this don't come up.

No excuse for failure o. That plane tire don chop, make them go replace am and resurface d tarmac. They should also check the brakes on the aircraft or perhaps, consider replacing some of their flying Dinosaurs.

who told you things like this font come up in USA China and the rest?

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PatrioticNaija:


9am now...... everyone still stranded and......
Up till now the aircraft has still not been removed

I came there in the morning and I had to go to RTC to use bus to abuja. I'm at owerri road linking to anambra now. I sent them an email for refund anyways.