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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 10:07am On Oct 02, 2019
IamAtikulate:
But Fulani people said Yorubas are the problem of this zoo.
Of course they are.
Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by IamAtikulate: 10:12am On Oct 02, 2019
Westtimeline:
Lol, I know everything about iwofa, there is nothing in iwofa. Nothing in history can be worst than OSU practise in igbo land. What can be worst than sacrificing a whole family tagged OSU to one useless god that can't see, move or talk. That is how salvage and barbaric you guys are.

I am more than 100% sure you are not proud to be called OSU even though you are. And why all of you always deny being OSU?

I will soon drop the bomb about OSU and so many barbaric practise in igboland.

We have been waiting for your bomb
Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Chukapage(m): 10:28am On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:


My dear the completion of the story is




Omo their weakness is onto another level
guy why now? grin cheesy grin,why you dey this LMAO grin cheesy
Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by AgentNairaland: 10:28am On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:


This one is strong o. So you mean that a Fulani King in a Yoruba land made fun of Yoruba people he is leading ??

This is for Yoruba people

No mind Afonja for allowing them
Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by forgiveness: 10:30am On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:


My dear the completion of the story is




Omo their weakness is onto another level



"Among the Yoruba generals that responded to Alaafin’s invitation were Kurumi of Ijaye, the Aseyin of Iseyin, the Okere of Saki, Sabigana of Igana and Atiba of Ago Oja. This was supported by Eleduwe forces from Bariba. Alarmed by the serious preparation of the Oyo army, Shitta, the Emir of Ilorin sought the military aid from his overlord, the Sultan of Sokoto. A decisive battle was fought at Otefan. Initially, the Oyo and their Bariba ally had inflicted crushing defeat on the Ilorin army. The victory was pursued too far. The victorious Oyo army chased the Ilorin forces, but was soon repulsed by the Ilorin cavalry. Heavy loss was recorded on both sides."

Stop peddling half baked stories here.

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 10:32am On Oct 02, 2019
AgentNairaland:


No mind Afonja for allowing them

But funny enough, Afonja descendants will always say that Igbo man that buys land and settle is there problem and not Fulani that conquered and forcefully imposed an Emir on them.

SMH

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 10:34am On Oct 02, 2019
Chukapage:
guy why now? grin cheesy grin,why you dey this LMAO grin cheesy

You need to see them Crying and running like headless chicken after their defeat when they went back to reclaim illorin cheesy cheesy

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by AgentNairaland: 10:37am On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:


But funny enough, Afonja descendants will always say that Igbo man that buys land and settle is there problem and not Fulani that conquered and forcefully imposed an Emir on them.

SMH

That's there own cup of tea, am not from Kwara state nor from Yoruba land

So therefore, they should enjoy there Next Level headed by a fulani retired soldier and king

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 10:39am On Oct 02, 2019
forgiveness:




"Among the Yoruba generals that responded to Alaafin’s invitation were Kurumi of Ijaye, the Aseyin of Iseyin, the Okere of Saki, Sabigana of Igana and Atiba of Ago Oja. This was supported by Eleduwe forces from Bariba. Alarmed by the serious preparation of the Oyo army, Shitta, the Emir of Ilorin sought the military aid from his overlord, the Sultan of Sokoto. A decisive battle was fought at Otefan. Initially, the Oyo and their Bariba ally had inflicted crushing defeat on the Ilorin army. The victory was pursued too far. The victorious Oyo army chased the Ilorin forces, but was soon repulsed by the Ilorin cavalry. Heavy loss was recorded on both sides."

Stop peddling half baked stories here.

You just posted this one to launder how weak your people are and make you people happy, We understand oh no p.

But our true history says that you people where raped in the battlefield until grown men started crying on their mummy's lap to be cuddled like baby

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 10:44am On Oct 02, 2019
AgentNairaland:


That's there own cup of tea, am not from Kwara state nor from Yoruba land

So therefore, they should enjoy there Next Level headed by a fulani retired soldier and king

Don't mind them. Just look at how they are messing around with Osibanjo.

Even Sowore that is in Prison, they can't even protest but rather in there Cowardic nature have to deny him of being a Yoruba but rather said he is Ijaw.

Choi this people eeh
Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by forgiveness: 10:54am On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:


You just posted this one to launder how weak your people are and make you people happy, We understand oh no p.

But our true history says that you people where raped in the battlefield until grown men started crying on their mummy's lap to be cuddled like baby

At least, none of your entire generation was brave enough to establish an Empire.


While the Oyo were reforming their new home, the Fulani bent on reducing the remaining part of the Yoruba country into tributary. The Fulani and the Jamas laid a close siege on Osogbo and a battle ensued between the invaders and the Osogbo army. A large contingent of army under Balogun Oderinlo was sent from Ibadan to raise the siege.

Although the Fulani forces with their overwhelming cavalry almost gained victory, the Ibadan forces realign their strategy by attacking the Ilorin camp in the night. A crushing defeat with great casualty was inflicted on the Ilorin army. The Ibadan forces captured many slaves among whom were four Ilorin war-chiefs, Jimba, the head of Emir slaves, one of the sons of Ali, the commander-in-chief of Ilorin, Lateju and Ajikobi. Of the four, the first two were released to return home while the remaining two were put to death, perhaps because they were treacherous Yoruba who allied with the Fulani.

Although victorious, the Oyo refused to consolidate their victory by liberating the ancient capital. Rather, they peacefully retreated into their new homes. Certain reasons could be adduced to this. In the first instance, the ancient Oyo was located in the savannah and was not secured from incessant invasion of the Fulani. Second, the Oyo army retreated perhaps because they dreaded the causality they could suffer in the hands of the Fulani cavalry if they pursued their victory too far. Another reason was probably the protection the Oyo new home which was located in the forest region afforded them. Nevertheless, the battle of Osogbo was decisive in the history of the Yoruba. For one, the Yoruba had established the fact that they could not be easily overrun by the Fulani again

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 11:11am On Oct 02, 2019
forgiveness:


At least, none of your entire generation was brave enough to establish an Empire.


While the Oyo were reforming their new home, the Fulani bent on reducing the remaining part of the Yoruba country into tributary. The Fulani and the Jamas laid a close siege on Osogbo and a battle ensued between the invaders and the Osogbo army. A large contingent of army under Balogun Oderinlo was sent from Ibadan to raise the siege.

Although the Fulani forces with their overwhelming cavalry almost gained victory, the Ibadan forces realign their strategy by attacking the Ilorin camp in the night. A crushing defeat with great casualty was inflicted on the Ilorin army. The Ibadan forces captured many slaves among whom were four Ilorin war-chiefs, Jimba, the head of Emir slaves, one of the sons of Ali, the commander-in-chief of Ilorin, Lateju and Ajikobi. Of the four, the first two were released to return home while the remaining two were put to death, perhaps because they were treacherous Yoruba who allied with the Fulani.

Although victorious, the Oyo refused to consolidate their victory by liberating the ancient capital. Rather, they peacefully retreated into their new homes. Certain reasons could be adduced to this. In the first instance, the ancient Oyo was located in the savannah and was not secured from incessant invasion of the Fulani. Second, the Oyo army retreated perhaps because they dreaded the causality they could suffer in the hands of the Fulani cavalry if they pursued their victory too far. Another reason was probably the protection the Oyo new home which was located in the forest region afforded them. Nevertheless, the battle of Osogbo was decisive in the history of the Yoruba. For one, the Yoruba had established the fact that they could not be easily overrun by the Fulani again



lol nice piece Sha. But the point is that Your leader Afonja connived with fulani to defeat Illorin.

And due to fear of reinforced attack by Fulani, Your people had to release their war chiefs.

illorin is gone and gone forever, before you become leader of illorin (Yoruba state), You must have to get permission from Sultan of Sokoto(Hausa) tongue

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by forgiveness: 11:28am On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:


lol nice piece Sha. But the point is that Your leader Afonja connived with fulani to defeat Illorin.

And due to fear of reinforced attack by Fulani, Your people had to release their war chiefs.

illorin is gone and gone forever, before you become leader of illorin (Yoruba state), You must have to get permission from Sultan of Sokoto(Hausa) tongue

Ilorin was never defeated or taken by force. All that happened was a place coup. That's all.

Maybe you are ignorant about Yoruba's war laws. You don't or must not kill a refugee of war. That was the constitution.

Ilorin was never a prominent city in Yoruba history. It was a war camp used to defend the Northern enemy, to make weapons and rare horses.

However, you don't need to worry yourself about another man's palaba.

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by FRESHG(m): 11:46am On Oct 02, 2019
helinues:
Una go dey alright Las las
IM A YORUBA MUSLIM AND I CAN CONFIDENTLY TELL YOU THAT WHAT HE SAID IS NOTHING BUT A NAKED TRUTH.
Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by forgiveness: 11:54am On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:


lol nice piece Sha. But the point is that Your leader Afonja connived with fulani to defeat Illorin.

And due to fear of reinforced attack by Fulani, Your people had to release their war chiefs.


illorin is gone and gone forever, before you become leader of illorin (Yoruba state), You must have to get permission from Sultan of Sokoto(Hausa) tongue

They released them to had given them hope of reinforcement for another attack that led to......... drowning in water, abi?


On 1 November 1878 the three besieging forces advanced against Ikirun. The Balogun left the Osi Ilori and his followers with the Ikiruns to fight the Ilorins, Ekitis and Ilas, while he took his soldiers to fight the Ijeshas. The first group was defeated, their leader the Osi Ilori was taken alive, and the rest retreated to Ikirun. When the Balogun heard of the failure, he did not panic, but through clever maneuvers defeated and ruthlessly destroyed the Ijeshas. He then returned, defeated the Ilorins and drove them out of their camp, but not before they had killed the Osi. He then defeated the demoralized Ekitis and Ilas. The victory was complete.

The people of Ofa heard that the Ilorins were in retreat, and cut the bridge across the Otin River in their rear. The Ilorins were pushed into the flooded river by the victorious Ibadans, and thousands of men, women and horses drowned. Jalumi means "drown in the river". The battle is so named because of the drowning of the forces of Ilorin.

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 12:02pm On Oct 02, 2019
forgiveness:


Ilorin was never defeated or taken by force. All that happened was a place coup. That's all.

Maybe you are ignorant about Yoruba's war laws. You don't or must not kill a refugee of war. That was the constitution.

Ilorin was never a prominent city in Yoruba history. It was a war camp used to defend the Northern enemy, to make weapons and rare horses.

However, you don't need to worry yourself about another man's palaba.

Hahahaha. Please stop. You sounded as a literate the other time, but this last comment you made now is disappointing.

Did you read my first post at all? Didn't you see how Alaffin and Afonja power tussle led to loss of illorin? Please go back and read it

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 12:09pm On Oct 02, 2019
forgiveness:


They released them to had given them hope of reinforcement for another attack that led to......... drowning in water, abi?


On 1 November 1878 the three besieging forces advanced against Ikirun. The Balogun left the Osi Ilori and his followers with the Ikiruns to fight the Ilorins, Ekitis and Ilas, while he took his soldiers to fight the Ijeshas. The first group was defeated, their leader the Osi Ilori was taken alive, and the rest retreated to Ikirun. When the Balogun heard of the failure, he did not panic, but through clever maneuvers defeated and ruthlessly destroyed the Ijeshas. He then returned, defeated the Ilorins and drove them out of their camp, but not before they had killed the Osi. He then defeated the demoralized Ekitis and Ilas. The victory was complete.

The people of Ofa heard that the Ilorins were in retreat, and cut the bridge across the Otin River in their rear. The Ilorins were pushed into the flooded river by the victorious Ibadans, and thousands of men, women and horses drowned. Jalumi means "drown in the river". The battle is so named because of the drowning of the forces of Ilorin.

Brother, those Illorin, Ekitis and Ijeshas are all Yorubas and Yoruba sub groups fighting against each other . My thread is talking of how Muslim (Fulani ) invaded and took over Illorin, spreading it's tentacles across Yoruba land leading to one Yoruba community rising against another

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by forgiveness: 12:27pm On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:


Hahahaha. Please stop. You sounded as a literate the other time, but this last comment you made now is disappointing.

Did you read my first post at all? Didn't you see how Alaffin and Afonja power tussle led to loss of illorin? Please go back and read it

Where was it written in your post that Ilorin was overan by army? Show me

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 12:40pm On Oct 02, 2019
forgiveness:


Were was it written in your post that Ilorin was overan by army? Show me

For the fact we have Emir of Illorin loyal to Sultan respected by Yoruba Muslims, Illorin was defeated by fulani.

Fulani infiltrated the Army and over threw Afonja Just as they would have infiltrated Igbo land in the name of Ruga. Automatically, Illorin is gone to Fulani till date.

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by forgiveness: 12:46pm On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:


Brother, those Illorin, Ekitis and Ijeshas are all Yorubas and Yoruba sub groups fighting against each other . My thread is talking of how Muslim (Fulani ) invaded and took over Illorin, spreading it's tentacles across Yoruba land leading to one Yoruba community rising against another

Fulani never invaded Ilorin. You claimed the two captives were released due to fear of reinforcement by the Fulani's army but after showing you prove that they actually reinforced again but were drown in the river, you singing another kuruke song.

Now, let me prove to you that the Ilorin that fought and got drown in the river were actually Fulanis. Let me see what you are going to come up with again.



Ibadan soldiers chased the Ilorin survivors to Inisa, a town between Ofa and Ikirun. When news reached the people of Ofa that the Ilorins were retreating towards Inisa, they cut the bridge across the Otin River in the rear and left the retreating Fulanis of Ilorin devastated. The Fulanis were pushed into the river by the Ibadans and drowned en masse; thus the war was named Jalumi which literally means “drown in the river“. Hence the 1878 Battle of Ikirun was also called Battle of waterloo.

Next time don't come rushing on public without having holistic knowledge of whatsoever information you want to pass across.

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by forgiveness: 12:49pm On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:


For the fact we have Emir of Illorin loyal to Sultan respected by Yoruba Muslims, Illorin was defeated by fulani.

Fulani infiltrated the Army and over threw Afonja Just as they would have infiltrated Igbo land in the name of Ruga. Automatically, Illorin is gone to Fulani till date.

In your thought. Dude, you are such a bloody liar.

Show me where in that your post where Ilorin was invaded and overan by Fulani's army. Show me.

Like I earlier said, what happened in Ilorin was palace coup. Sefini

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by kayusely70(m): 12:53pm On Oct 02, 2019
A distorted narrative of what actually happened

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by respect80(m): 1:04pm On Oct 02, 2019
Bros take am easy. grin

That guy no well at all cheesy
Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 4:39pm On Oct 02, 2019
forgiveness:


Fulani never invaded Ilorin. You claimed the two captives were released due to fear of reinforcement by the Fulani's army but after showing you prove that they actually reinforced again but were drown in the river, you singing another kuruke song.

Now, let me prove to you that the Ilorin that fought and got drown in the river were actually Fulanis. Let me see what you are going to come up with again.



Ibadan soldiers chased the Ilorin survivors to Inisa, a town between Ofa and Ikirun. When news reached the people of Ofa that the Ilorins were retreating towards Inisa, they cut the bridge across the Otin River in the rear and left the retreating Fulanis of Ilorin devastated. The Fulanis were pushed into the river by the Ibadans and drowned en masse; thus the war was named Jalumi which literally means “drown in the river“. Hence the 1878 Battle of Ikirun was also called Battle of waterloo.

Next time don't come rushing on public without having holistic knowledge of whatsoever information you want to pass across.


Brother, you are derailing the topic. You are talking of Aftermath wars. You are the person that brought in Ibadan into my thread. I am saying how Yoruba lost illorin to the Caliphate. I never said wars were involved but I said they cunningly infiltrated una Army and overthrew your leader and declared their loyalty to the Caliphate.

Today, there is a Fulani title called Emir in Yoruba land and all Yorubas living in Illorin bow to him.(Full stop)

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 4:41pm On Oct 02, 2019
forgiveness:


In your thought. Dude, you are such a bloody liar.

Show me where in that your post where Ilorin was invaded and overan by Fulani's army. Show me.

Like I earlier said, what happened in Ilorin was palace coup. Sefini

Whether palace coup or Presidential coup or Governor coup or Oba Coup, What I know is that Illorin is forever gone to the Caliphate and there is nothing Afonja can do about it.

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by forgiveness: 5:19pm On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:


Brother, you are derailing the topic. You are talking of Aftermath wars. You are the person that brought in Ibadan into my thread. I am saying how Yoruba lost illorin to the Caliphate. I never said wars were involved but I said they cunningly infiltrated una Army and overthrew your leader and declared their loyalty to the Caliphate.

Today, there is a Fulani title called Emir in Yoruba land and all Yorubas living in Illorin bow to him.(Full stop)
You are definitely a combined novice and ignoramus.

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by femolii: 6:20pm On Oct 02, 2019
Bluehill1051:
Wetin this one dy talk ?
Do you know you are slaves to igala in anambra.

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by naijadrivablog: 6:38pm On Oct 02, 2019
Donald95:

My dear the completion of the story is



Omo their weakness is onto another level
grin
You just de find trouble. grin
Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Bluehill1051: 6:48pm On Oct 02, 2019
femolii:
Do you know you are slaves to igala in anambra.
Wetin be igala? Only igala I know means antelope

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 7:49pm On Oct 02, 2019
femolii:
Do you know you are slaves to igala in anambra.

lol, Funny boy. Show me one Attach of Igala or whatever there leader is called that is respected by indigenous Igbo's in Igbo land

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Donald95(m): 7:50pm On Oct 02, 2019
Bluehill1051:
Wetin be igala? Only igala I know means antelope

The one I know is Gala

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Re: Rare History; Between Afonja And Alaafin Aole And The Curse On Yoruba (picture) by Cosbyrich: 10:24pm On Oct 02, 2019
Quick Facts:
Oyo empire started around 1300 CE and lasted more than 500 years.

Oyo Empire was undefeated unitl its decline.

A minute part of Yoruba...Ibadan defeated the massive population of army of Fulani,Hausa,Gambari etc at Jalumi War.

Ewe in Ghana,The Great Dahomey Kingdom;Republic of Benin,The Fons etc were all vassals of The OYO Empire. and they were all paying tribute to The Oyo Empire.

grin

OSUs were learning how to wear clothes until 1950.

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