Empiree:
like I know it. See, you are talking about culture. People who supposedly are Muslims but unfortunately have questionable culture. You should worry about your culture in Nigeria or wherever you live. But unfortunately they always lure islam into it.

How does this response correlate with my post? Islam is known to subjugate women's rigght, not even you can deny that.

Empiree:

it is just a dress just like any dress. You are making compound statement and compound allegation. Do all women wear burqa?. Besides no one said it prevents adultery or measure of piety. Piety resides in the heart. What Muslim women dress code signifies first is obeying command of God. Burqa in itself is subjective to culture. As for extra witnesses, this in itself is valid in any court of law today. So I see no point you are trying to make. If muslim woman wears burqa and she's comfortable and doesn't complain to you, how does that affects you, sir?. Do you as well criticized the one who wears bikini which in reality a revert to the time of jahiliyah (ignorance). When you were born the first thing done on you was they cleaned you and then they clothed you.

The Burqah is not just any dress, it is an obligation on every woman in Islam, be Honest for once. If the burqa is subjective to Arabic culture, why did Omar make the suggestion to the Prophet and subsequently Allah's revelation as per Omar's recommendation? In Sharia court, a woman's opinion is not as weighty as a man, regardless of the circumstance, this is pure injustice and you know it.

Empiree:

sorry buddy. This was his obligation. He had responsibilities to carry out at behest of his Lord, the same way all prophets before him were ordered to propagate God's Oneness. That aside, i am just curious, I thought you meant this is 21 century and Muslims should emancipate?. If so why did you have to refer back to Prophet Muhammad from 1400 yrs ago.?. Don't you think you are on a mission as I suggested earlier?. You have motives?.

So refer back to the Prophet's time is now wrong? Interesting. You still are not making any sense. How does this correlate to your insinuations that poeple with contrary opinions are low-life?

Empiree:

guy, I have told you what to do if you don't want the phrase on your profile. It wasn't Muslims it was CEO of this forum and he's not Muslims who came up with the idea. Maybe you don't know the reason for it. It was the same guys like you sometime back who abused Muslims and insulted their religion and posted porn. So CEO made his decision to segregate islam section to avoid violence and insult. So whoever wants to comment must first acknowledge this phrase. It doesn't mean you are Muslim. It means you agree to maintain courtesy in this section. We are open to reasonable debate unlike what you portrayed it to be.

I have been a member of this forum since 2009, I know how Muslims were intolerant. Attached is a screenshot of team islam which I was part of, sadly I cant reveal my Moniker. So I tell you muslims are the intolerant ones, trust me I know what I am saying.[/quote]

Empiree:

first, did I/we complain to you?. Second, liberate from what to what exactly?. Aren't you being intolerant towards my believe now?.

You may turn blind eyes to the many abnormality in Islam, but my conscience is my guiding star. I speak up and not afraid to Stand for what is right.

Empiree:


Qur'an has this to say

And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say; “Surely Allah's guidance, that is the (true) guidance”. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper(120).

Funnily it is islam that is intolerant of other religion. Muslims are free to practise Islam in virtually any part of the world, but can you say same about OTHER RELIGION? I WILL LEAVE YOU TO YOUR CONSCIENCE AND SURAH 109.

amazinglanre:



Funnily it is islam that is intolerant of other religion. Muslims are free to practise Islam in virtually any part of the world, but can you say same about OTHER RELIGION? I WILL LEAVE YOU TO YOUR CONSCIENCE AND SURAH 109.

I will continue disrespecting myself going back and forth with you actually. Your level is not up to my standard.

The only part I'm quoting is this. Are you aware of recent hijab saga in secondary School in ibadan?. Principal ordered school children to removed hijab despite constitutionally allowed. Who's intolerant?.

Empiree:
I will continue disrespecting myself going back and forth with you actually. Your level is not up to my standard.

Standard? Are you really serious? Well if I wanted an intellectual discourse i would be travelling back to the time when Nairaland was fun and engaging.

Empiree:

The only part I'm quoting is this. Are you aware of recent hijab saga in secondary School in ibadan?. Principal ordered school children to removed hijab despite constitutionally allowed. Who's intolerant?.

Is this your justification of intolerance? Have you lived in the north? I have and I can tell you that what is attainable in the west is alien in the North. How would you feel if you are residing in the predominantly Christian states in the East, and during Lent, you are not permitted to eat meat during the day (or lynched by overzealous Christians for eating during Lent). I am sure you would scream Intolerance.

amazinglanre:





Is this your justification of intolerance? Have you lived in the north? I have and I can tell you that what is attainable in the west is alien in the North. How would you feel if you are residing in the predominantly Christian states in the East, and during Lent, you are not permitted to eat meat during the day (or lynched by overzealous Christians for eating during Lent). I am sure you would scream Intolerance.

this is why we never gonna achieve anything. If I bring example up you also bring yours to justify your position. You opened this thread to tackle Islam but now you are using whatever is going on in the North to attack Islam. Is the North hujjah for Islam?. You would have been correct only if it is the same in the SW and Muslims countries and wherever Muslims live. You have no case against Islam, buddy. I know your type. You are on a mission.

Again, is it not intolerant on the part of the principal to order children to take off their hijab which is constitutionally allowed in school?. You have said only Islam doesn't tolerate others.

Empiree:
this is why we never gonna achieve anything. If I bring example up you also bring yours to justify your position.

The Christian preacher killed in Abuja for propagating her faith?

I have witnessed many countless Christians reverts to Islam, I personally tutor most of them in reading and understanding the deen, Quran. But reverse is the Case when a Muslim willfully becomes a Christian.

As you are aware Apostasy clearly contradicts Surah Kafirun!

This is some of the areas Islam needs reformation.

Empiree:

You opened this thread to tackle Islam but now you are using whatever is going on in the North to attack Islam. Is the North hujjah for Islam?. You would have been correct only if it is the same in the SW and Muslims countries and wherever Muslims live. You have no case against Islam, buddy. I know your type. You are on a mission.

The north is the HQ of Islam in Nigeria, how many states in the west forcefully practises Sharia like Zamfara, Kaduna, Bauchi etc? So using the north as a yardstick is not out of order. In Muslim dominated countries, there are reported cases of human right abuse. Total disregard for Civility. Househelps in the predominant Muslims countries like the UAE end up as sex slaves with no voice of their own. And they are practising Muslims who calim to live by the dictates of the deen of Islam. If this is not intolerance and hypocrisy, then you have a problem.

YOU DON'T KNOW ME SO STOP THE ASSUMPTION.

Empiree:

Again, is it not intolerant on the part of the principal to order children to take off their hijab which is constitutionally allowed in school?. You have said only Islam doesn't tolerate others.

It is clearly wrong for the principal to go against the constitution of the federation, however, why is Muric selectively reactive? Why are Muslims mute on the many atrocities perpetrated by Muslims against non-muslims?

Why would Muslims in Nigeria kill unarmed non-Muslims because of mundane issues, and interestingly why not leave judgement for Allah? Why take lives you can never give?

Christianity and Jesus have been ridiculed and the heaven is yet to collapse on us, why the intolerance and quick action to maim and destroy at will?
I would not kill a non-Muslim for insulting Islam, Allah has the final judgement. Do you know if the non-Muslim you slaughtered could eventually revert to Islam?

amazinglanre:





It is clearly wrong for the principal to go against the constitution of the federation,

case closed. Anything else you had to say is irrelevant to me. You have just acknowledged intolerant and lack of peaceful coexistence of nonmuslims toward Muslims as well. Go and sleep. You have no case.

amazinglanre:
Islam started as a religion in the far-away Middle East as a critic of the mainstay religion in Saudi Arabia.

Muhammad's criticism of Idolatry was met with vehement opposition and persecution, ultimately Islam conquered Saudi Arabia after much bloodshed and rivalry as is accustomed during that Century and past.

With the help of trusted companions, Martyrs and reverts, Islam became a force to reckon with. (don't get me started on that)

As commanded by Allah, the Quran became the only source of guidance for Muslims, however, after the death of the Prophet, avoidable disaster has plagued the nation of Islam ever since.

The desire for power and influence overrode piety and submission which lead to an age-long rivalry between the two major sects in Islam.

As Muslim, every form of social interaction or endeavours is governed by the Sunnah (The Sayings and Actions of the Prophet), and over time, the Sunnah became a unanimous Deputy of the Quran.

But as a liberal, I have found most of the Sunnah fit for the abyss of history, no longer relevant as it were.

CHANGE is inevitable and Muslims must come to the realization that "Time" could be a loving friend, rather a raging Superior Enemy.

History has taught us that anyone who Opposed "Change" was either completely annihilated or reduced to insignificance.

Years ago the Papacy was supreme until Science began unearthing some dogmas by brilliant and Selfless Men, at first, the concept of science was alien and a heresy, punishable by death, but the Wind of Change like a Tsunami sweeps every form of resistance and objection, the rest is History.

The Quran made it abundantly clear that taking a life without a Just Cause is a major sin, I still wonder if the Muslims who claim to be Jihadist have never come across Surah 6 Verse 151 or one of the shortest and easily memorable Surah 109.

Killer herdsmen and terrorist are 99% Muslims, however, the dogma of the Sunnah has clearly blinded their conscience and sense of reasoning.

There is no promised virgin for killing people who hold contrary religious views anywhere in the Quran, except in the Hadith.

Islam needs to emancipate women, Child bride and totally shun the concepts of Slavery as practised in most Muslim dominated countries.

Why would a woman need to provide an extra witness to corroborate her claim, while a Man is sufficient? This Is All Shades Of Wrong!

The burqa is no measure of piety or submission, most adulterers and perpetrators of evil adorn themselves in Burqa.

What is attainable for Prophet Muhammad over 2000 years ago can never be generally accepted if you tow the same path.

I don't have to sleep, eat, walk and talk the same way the Prophet did. I am different living in different Century and dimension.

Islam teaches virtue, and I have seen Pious Muslims who would never hurt another even when pushed to an extreme, this is how to Spread the message of Islam, and never through Violence.

The Sharia is an effective tool for social justice against the Poor but very Weak when the Rich is involved.

Not long ago, the crowned Prince of Saudi Arabia was indicted for murder and the Sharia was Mute like my Wallet. No public outcry from Muric and other Islamic watchdogs. This is the Zenith of HYPOCRISY.

How many Alhaji's from prominent families have been amputated for stealing?

How many Alhaja's from prominent families have been stoned to death for idolatry?

At a time Nokia was a Symbol of Perfection, But sadly With Time Even Perfection Erodes.

See these two hypocrites

Kingosytex:



OP, you wrote well. those aforementioned vices you noted are giving your religion a very bad image


It still baffles me that some people have actually been brainwashed to believe that they would be rewarded with heavenly virgins if they kill for their god


The issue of almajiris is another sector that needs to be looked into, i think the nigerian muslim elites have conspired to continually hold their followers in perpetual slavery. With the thousands of almajiris littered all over the north, i am yet to see the children and grand children of the atiku, ganduje, bindow, fintiri, sanusi, tambulwa et al among the almajiris.

is almajirism only meant for the poor and the downtrodden?

The issue of child marriage is evil and should be discarded

Here we have grown Christian man married his great grandchild

amazinglanre:
Isla
At a time Nokia was a Symbol of Perfection, But sadly With Time Even Perfection Erodes.

Here is Muslim North helped Christian south. You evil people propagate discrimination and hate against muslims

Kingosytex:



OP,
The d

here is another intolerant and discrimination coming from Christians. You evil people would turn the other side.

Yet look at the third screenshot is police in Canada. Are you more CHRISTIANs than them?

Talking about intolerance, these are Israeli soldiers firing tear gas at Muslims during prayer. And we have a clown here saying only muslims are intolerant. Help yourself

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2247823851939755&id=490858150969676&anchor_composer=false

"only Muslims are intolerant towards other religions" according to amazinglanre


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2251365574918916&id=490858150969676&fs=1&focus_composer=0