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Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by healthserve(m): 1:29pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
Respond to my questions and adeprof18, no need to post screenshots they've seen it all, reply with words, answer him one by one according to the points he made Then proceed to respond to my own points i raised one by one, incase you missed them, here they are again below Audience confirm, he couldn't afford, and then we settled for 3 designs, which i willingly offered a fourth design free. Making two out of three designs, did i not have the right to request for advance payment to be sure my service was insured ? 1. When he posted this thread here did he contact me with solid reasons that he was withdrawing the project and why he was? 2. Did he give any reasons for project withdrawal ( especially since it was immediately after i requested for an advance payment? 3. Looking at his sample sketch and the work produced, is there any flaw in the client's request and what was produced? 4. Check his thread, the time this thread was opened, and the time i submitted the designs, if it was done in good spirit, look at the time he posted the thread you'll observe it was some 30 minutes after i asked for payment, ask the Op/client, did he inform me he was rejected the work/or won't be accepting the for for any solid reasons before withdrawing the project to create this thread? 5. Please ask the client if his actions are in good spirit if he had anytime informed me he was withdrawing the work and if he stated reasons and if he requested for revision and i refused. 6. Ask the Op if the project wasn't far into 36/48hours before he made this withdrawal and created this post here 7. Ask the Op when when he withdrew the project and posted this thread if he informed me even after 12hours later 8. Ask the Op to state his reasons for withdrawing the project and see if they are valid, ask him how far the logo design is from what he asked me to produce |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by wwwtortoise(m): 1:30pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
healthserve: Has it gotten to name-calling ? |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by Offpoint: 1:31pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
healthserve: Health just let everything goes by, it's business. just count your lost and move on. |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by healthserve(m): 1:31pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
wwwtortoise: No need for guilt tripping and psychological blackmail. Ignore that part, you have many questions to answer, attend to them, the people want to know |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by healthserve(m): 1:33pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
Offpoint: I have. I feel sorry for the designer on my team who spent lots of hours doing the work. And want the next designer to be aware and careful. I also want him to know when he's path keeps blocking he would remember the source of his problems. Because you said this, i'll vacate this thread and not bother to comment easily. |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by wwwtortoise(m): 1:36pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
Offpoint: Lols I like your biased diplomacy. No need @bolded your reason for being bias is obvious; he is a graphic designer just like you. Need i remind you countless times i have been scammed online? No, i will pass .... i just had to be cautious too. Anyways, thanks for your input. |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by wwwtortoise(m): 1:41pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
healthserve: Indeed! Spare me those crap. I have your account details and i will reward your effort and time accordingly when i finally get verdict here. This little business mishap will not stop my business and I from soaring high. Save this post for records sake. |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by healthserve(m): 1:45pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
wwwtortoise: If you send me any money, God will punish you. Don't send me anything. Continue. Like i said, karma has a way of rewarding anyone. If you send me any money, i will withdraw it, curse it and give it to a beggar or native doctor. Be warned. Audience i leave in peace as suggested by offpoint. I leave it to Karma to balance the account guys. Bless |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by wwwtortoise(m): 1:49pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
healthserve: Coward ! Don't bring religion into this. You will regret if you do so. Take this as a friendly free advise. |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by erad(m): 1:51pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
I'll appreciate if the both of you can sheath your swords now... The next couple of posts will convey my opinion(s). Thank you. |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by erad(m): 2:29pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
@healthserve... Bro, calm down... Your blood dey hot. With your aggressive approach to the client, anybody will want to think twice. I've also had clients who had trust issues and I do my possible best to allay their fears by providing my personal social media handles and having them go through it. This way they see my friends and family members and understand I have everything to lose by scamming them. I refer them back to Nairaland too, to see if I have any negative reviews or anything of sorts. Me offering to design for a client as a form of gaining their trust does not translate to them committing to the project. That still counts as advert because until they actually make that deposit payment, they have not committed to anything. Also, I think 75% deposit is a little on the high side especially for someone who doesn't even trust you yet. I'm sure if you had requested about 50% or less, the conversation would have gone a whole lot differently. The conduct of both parties was anything but professional. Designers don't talk, we design. The fact that you suggested extra modifications to the initial idea of the client doesn't make you a superhero. You were trying to secure a deal, you did what was necessary. You are not just a designer to your client, you are also an adviser. If your client had brought a sketch that you knew would have had a negative effect to his potential consumers, would you have gone ahead and designed it regardless? If your answer is Yes, then maybe you are in the wrong field. I've lost count of potential clients that wanted to do the irrelevant things first but I advised otherwise. Yes I gained nothing from it because that means they needed to re-strategize and I'll lose out on their deal at that point. But my conscience feels better and the client also remains thankful. What would I have gained making a design that's useless to the client? Am I a designer just to make money or also to provide professional services that will POSITIVELY impact on my clients' businesses? Or what is my gain as a designer when I go ahead to do as the client wants only for my design to be seen as useless to the growth of the business eventually and thrown in the thrash? You both never had a contract, Just a gentlemen's agreement. What if the client had paid 75% upfront, would you still have been so rash and disrespectful towards him? And if he felt unsafe at a point, would you have agreed to negotiate to return part or all of his deposit? He offered to pay you for your time, don't you think that's fair? If you took a uber and started feeling unsafe due to the driver's approach, will you continue the trip or end it? Can the driver force you to go the whole distance all because he felt your fears are unfounded? Will you also pay the full fee for a trip you ended? Let's be rational please. I'm a designer as well but experience has taught me better. I flatly refuse jobs without deposit regardless of the price, that saves me a lot of worries and stories that touch. Offering to go half way with a design is not the way to address a client's insecurities. 1 Like |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by healthserve(m): 2:29pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
wwwtortoise: You call me coward And threaten me abi. Okay. |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by erad(m): 2:30pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
@wwwtortoise... Please remove the screenshots with the designer's account details and also those with your own personal details, thank you. |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by healthserve(m): 2:31pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
erad: Interesting. God bless Sir |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by wwwtortoise(m): 2:53pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
erad: Alright, i will do as you said. I would also want him to delete the picture attachments of my logo and business card he posted on his 1st post on this thread as it gives out wrong information. Ps: i suggest this thread is locked or better still closed. |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by wwwtortoise(m): 3:03pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
@erad Thanks for your mature and rational standing on this issue. People like you are hard to find on the cyberspace. You've earned my respect sir. Thanks once again. @healthserve Regardless of the tantrums we have thrown at each other, i want to apologize for any perceived wrongdoing on my part. Thanks. |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by wwwtortoise(m): 3:08pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
healthserve: @erad @healthserve I will appreciate if this logo and com.card are deleted as it doesn't give true information that i intend my business to portray. Thanks |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by healthserve(m): 6:38pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
Lolz. You can just imagine. Smh |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by healthserve(m): 6:38pm On Aug 01, 2019 |
wwwtortoise: No need to apologise. I have lifted the case to Karma to judge and appropriate to each one according to his deeds |
Re: Graphics Designer Needed ! by lewispius: 4:24am On Aug 02, 2019 |
erad: Well said. |
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