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Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 5:53pm On Aug 11, 2019
Curtin, Philip D.; Lovejoy, Paul E. / Africans in bondage: studies in slavery and the slave trade : essays in honor of Philip D. Curtin on the occasion of the twenty-fifth anniversary of African Studies at the University of Wisconsin
(1986)

Alagoa, E. J.
Chapter 6: The slave trade in Niger Delta oral tradition and history, pp. [125]-Map 7.1 PDF (4.1 MB)

Page 131

NIGER DELTA ORAL TRADITION AND HISTORY
shrines on their original settlements that are sited in the
center of the island between the Atlantic and the Akassa Creek.
The original settlements are named ama-ogbo, central town or
town center. The reason for locating the towns away from the
river was clearly to escape the attention of pirates and slave
raiders.

The village of Elem Bakana in the Kalabari area is still
located in its old site away from the river. When I visited
the village in 1964, the men sang songs in which they suggested
that it was necessary to ensure that even the smoke from their
fires could not be seen by canoes passing on the river (Alagoa
1972: 140). Elem Bakana, as well as the neighboring villages
of Bukuma, Obonoma, and Udekama, may have been raided by
Kalabari slave dealers. These communities were of a different
culture and spoke a language different from the Kalabari. But
it would appear that raiding took place even among Kalabari-
speaking communities. Thus, the traditions concerning Agbaniye
Ejike, King of Bile, who ruled in the eighteenth century, state
that he raided and sacked all the neighboring Kalabari commu-
nities.



In a praise song to King Amakiri of Elem Kalabari, the
savagery of Agbaniye Ejike is contrasted with the constructive
leadership of Amakiri, who extended his authority by serving as
protector of the threatened communities (Alagoa 1972: 139).
In the western delta, the Ijo communities were placed in a
peripheral position in relation to Itsekiri and Benin. In
response they preyed on the trade of these two kingdoms,
sometimes supplying slaves to Itsekiri. Ijo piracy is reported
in most of the accounts of European visitors to the western
delta, and Ijo traditions confirm these piratical activities as
well as the supremacy of Itsekiri in the overseas trade (Alagoa
1972: 25-83).



The Kabo, for example, were notorious for their
piracy on the Forcados River. The Erohwa, an Isoko group, were
driven inland from their old site on the Forcados close to the
site of Patani, one of the best known raiding communities

(Hubbard 1948: 96-97).


There are few, if any, published accounts of European
raids for slaves in the Niger Delta, or indeed, on most of the
Nigerian coast. The Portuguese were more directly concerned
with the business of collecting slaves in the Congo, Angola,
and the Senegambia. A tradition among the Kabo suggests that
the idea of European raids for slaves was not a far-fetched
one, however. The Kabo account of how they lost control of the
slave trade on the Forcados River to the Mein group relates to
fear of European raids. During a period of low water, a rumor
spread that the Europeans would come up the river in the
following flood season and capture any persons they saw
(Hubbard 1948: 186; Alagoa 1972: 74-75). The Kabo proceeded to
dam the river and to divert it from their settlements. By the
following flood season, the river had been effectively rechan-
nelled through the territory of the neighboring Mein.

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 5:58pm On Aug 11, 2019
Clearly we were all affected by slave raiders and no group was exempt.

The idea that coastal ijaw or efik were exempt wen Hausa in the far North still ended up in America as slaves is a fallacy.


American Judge Glenda Hatchett shares maternal genetic ancestry with the Yoruba and Hausa ethnic groups of Nigeria.


The Oba of Benin Kingdom sold alot of captured Ijaws, Igbos, Urhobo and Bini people into slavery.







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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by PFRB: 6:32pm On Aug 11, 2019
Slave trade went on for 400 years so anyone who talks as Asari is only exposing his or her ignorance.

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 6:35pm On Aug 11, 2019
Quick recap; these are the videos of Asari Dokubo erroneous claims.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh8ShucHp0s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqpLxsQTsas
Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 6:59pm On Aug 11, 2019
All the tribes located in the coastal areas were actively involved in slave raid and the slave trades.

From the Efik to the Ogoni, Ijaw, Itsekiri and Bini.

It is a fallacy for any group actively involved in 'human cargo trade' to say none of their members were sold.

It is laughable because, they also sold slaves from among their own people to Europeans Slave Merchant.

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by MetaPhysical: 11:48pm On Aug 11, 2019
hammerVJ:


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Come see community gathering. The who is who of nairaland. grin

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by MetaPhysical: 12:02am On Aug 12, 2019
Hammer,
I am impressed with your collection but you left out naptu. Naptu alone is worth more than half the people on that list.

Naptu by himself is 50% of Nairaland. grin


Now, the issue is you want to discredit what Fatso said in his video. Understood!

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by delishpot: 1:12pm On Aug 12, 2019
MetaPhysical:


Chei!
Come see community gathering. The who is who of nairaland. grin

What is funny about that photo? I still don't get the picture you are painting

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 5:36pm On Aug 12, 2019
MetaPhysical:


Chei!
Come see community gathering. The who is who of nairaland. grin



Guys, it is learning about your neighbours time.

Let us get to know our dearly beloved neighbours.

Fratermathy, u know i love u man. I am Urhobo number one fan. hahahahahahahahaha grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 5:52pm On Aug 12, 2019
How can Asari come out insult the whole Igbos and nobody checkmate him.

If u dont correct a wrong statement made publicly, it will become fact to the lazy intellectuals, who will cite it as an authority.

Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 5:59pm On Aug 12, 2019
Seun mynd44 lalasticlala obinoscopy please do send this thread to the FP to correct the wrong historical account presented by Asari and placed on FP here.

People deserve to know the truth.
Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by Nobody: 6:02pm On Aug 12, 2019
Waste so much energy writing nothing and arguing rubbish.

There aree many definition of time and one of them is this thread.

Paper upon paper has not solve the problem of man.

Africa as a continent is a tragedy while their leaders are double tragedy who has no atom of hygiene.


We have modern day slavery and someone is still researching on history as of old.....sorry.

Ndo.

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 6:04pm On Aug 12, 2019
MelesZenawi:
Waste so much energy writing nothing and arguing rubbish.

There aree many definition of time and one of them is this thread.

Paper upon paper has not solve the problem of manner.

Africa as a continent is a tragedy while their leaders are double tragedy who has no atom of hygiene.


We have modern day slavery and someone is still researching on history as of old.....sorry.

Ndo.


And, it is all because we have refused to learn.

We dont even know who we are as a people.

How can we progress wen everything we believe is lies?

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by Nobody: 6:05pm On Aug 12, 2019
Finally this research is scanty of details to disprove asari as am not in anyway in support of such statement but that has died a natural death to be resuscitated again.

For what gain please?

One man's work can't disprove unless collectively verified and agreed.

This thread is of no use.


The asari topic is a forgotten issue.

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by Nobody: 6:08pm On Aug 12, 2019
hammerVJ:



And, it is all because we have refused to learn.

We dont even know who we are as a people.

How can we progress wen everything we believe is lies?



There was never a time such was believed, is only your mind that believed such because you allow your inner recess to be acted upon by mere words.


If you believe that lion is goat then you can believe anything, it doesn't matter who you are.
Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 6:09pm On Aug 12, 2019
MelesZenawi:
Finally this research is scanty of details to disprove asari as am not in anyway in support of such statement but that has died a natural death to be resuscitated again.

For what gain please?

One man's work can't disprove unless collectively verified and agreed.

This thread is of no use.


The asari topic is a forgotten issue.


The research is more than the lies Asari Dokunbo told on youtube with no work of authority as reference.


Secondly we have a minumum of three refernces up there.


The historical date and figures have been clearly stated.


In Asari comment, wat dates or figures were mentioned?

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by Nobody: 6:12pm On Aug 12, 2019
hammerVJ:



The research is more than the lies Asari Dokunbo told on youtube with no work of authority as reference.


Secondly we have a minumum of three refernces up there.


The historical date and figures have been clearly stated.


In Asari comment, wat dates or figures were mentioned?



Alright wait for the invited guest to arrive so you guys can argue it.


At the end make sure the argument bring dividend of democracy and food on the people's table to both side of the divide.

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 6:14pm On Aug 12, 2019
MelesZenawi:




There was never a time such was believed, is only your mind that believed such because you allow your inner recess to be acted upon by mere words.


If you believe that lion is goat then you can believe anything, it doesn't matter who you are.

Do you know that we share country without knowing wat binds us together as a people.

U have people who have shared border villages for nearly 1000years call the other enemy and not knowing they are actually brothers that became separated as clans?

Look at Yoruba and igbo, we share many linguistic similarities but never cared to explore wat we have in common and how we are related.

This was why Awolowo killed three million igbos and yoruba constant threat of genocide against the Igbos.

I think if Yoruba came in contact with nuclear bomb, Igbo land would be in grave danger.
Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by Nobody: 6:17pm On Aug 12, 2019
hammerVJ:


[s]Do you know that we share country without knowing wat binds us together as a people.

U have people who have shared border villages for nearly 1000years call the other enemy and not knowing they are actually brothers that became separated as clans?

Look at Yoruba and igbo, we share many linguistic similarities but never cared to explore wat we have in common and how we are related.

This was why Awolowo killed three million igbos and yoruba constant threat of genocide against the Igbos.

I think if Yoruba came in contact with nuclear bomb, Igbo land would be in grave danger[/s].

Am not here for semantics or pipe dreams neither do I engage in such.


Adios.
Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 6:21pm On Aug 12, 2019
MelesZenawi:



Alright wait for the invited guest to arrive so you guys can argue it.


At the end make sure the argument bring dividend of democracy and food on the people's table to both side of the divide.


Man must not live by bread alone.

We still have time to know wat is going on with our country, people and lives.
Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by Nobody: 6:23pm On Aug 12, 2019
hammerVJ:



Man must not live by bread alone.

We still have time to know wat is going on with our country, people and lives.


Alright

Enjoy the time you have.

As for us the time is now.
Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 6:25pm On Aug 12, 2019
MelesZenawi:


Am not here for semantics or pipe dreams neither do I engage in such.


Adios.


U know wat i said is true.

Just this week, in far away London, Adeyinka Grandson was arrested for call on Yorubas to attack Igbos living in Lagos and SW.

I dont want to post pictures or headlines of other Yoruba figure threatening Igbos with genocide and even going as far as saying Igbo land will be nuked. Statement such as this are very hard for people like me to forget.

They are too many and that is a topic for another day.

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by Nobody: 6:27pm On Aug 12, 2019
hammerVJ:



U know wat i said is true.

Just this week, in far away London, Adeyinka Grandson was arrested for call on Yorubas to attack Igbos living in Lagos and SW.

I dont want to post pictures or headlines of other Yoruba figure threatening Igbos with genocide and even going as far as saying Igbo land will be nuked. Statement such as this are very hard for people like me to forget.

They are too many and that is a topic for another day.





Ok.
Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by MetaPhysical: 6:34pm On Aug 12, 2019
hammerVJ:


Do you know that we share country without knowing wat binds us together as a people.

U have people who have shared border villages for nearly 1000years call the other enemy and not knowing they are actually brothers that became separated as clans?

Look at Yoruba and igbo, we share many linguistic similarities but never cared to explore wat we have in common and how we are related.

This was why Awolowo killed three million igbos and yoruba constant threat of genocide against the Igbos.

I think if Yoruba came in contact with nuclear bomb, Igbo land would be in grave danger.

You can bet your @ss on it! We will enslave you all over again from where Ijaw, Igala and Fulani left off. grin grin grin grin grin

Ooni said we are inseparable. You believe? grin

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by topboss: 6:38pm On Aug 12, 2019
Asari is a lying fat pig, wat do u expect.

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 7:32am On Aug 13, 2019
MetaPhysical:


You can bet your @ss on it! We will enslave you all over again from where Ijaw, Igala and Fulani left off. grin grin grin grin grin

Ooni said we are inseparable. You believe? grin


Hahahahaha!

U are funny.

Nobody have enslaved the Igbos but the gods.

We had our own fair share of slave raiders but the British got to Igboland in the 1800s.

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by pazienza(m): 10:44am On Aug 13, 2019
Interesting.
No one except Ijaw supremacists took Asari serious in his claim of Ijaws enslaving Igbos, especially when many Ijaws of that era were even Igbos themselves. Think Of Jaja and Oko Jumbo. Additionally, Asari himself is paternally Igbo, as his ancestor migrated from Abam in modern Abia state.

Asari was only seeking for public attention with that outburst. Nevertheless, it's good you tried to set the record straight by providing adequate evidence backed rebuttal to his verbal diarrhea.

Good job.

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by hammerVJ: 2:44pm On Aug 13, 2019
pazienza:
Interesting.
No one except Ijaw supremacists took Asari serious in his claim of Ijaws enslaving Igbos, especially when many Ijaws of that era were even Igbos themselves. Think Of Jaja and Oko Jumbo. Additionally, Asari himself is paternally Igbo, as his ancestor migrated from Abam in modern Abia state.

Asari was only seeking for public attention with that outburst. Nevertheless, it's good you tried to set the record straight by providing adequate evidence backed rebuttal to his verbal diarrhea.

Good job.

Nwanne u are too much...


much respect...

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Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by Nobody: 4:08pm On Aug 13, 2019
pazienza:
Interesting.
No one except Ijaw supremacists took Asari serious in his claim of Ijaws enslaving Igbos, especially when many Ijaws of that era were even Igbos themselves. Think Of Jaja and Oko Jumbo. Additionally, Asari himself is paternally Igbo, as his ancestor migrated from Abam in modern Abia state.

Asari was only seeking for public attention with that outburst. Nevertheless, it's good you tried to set the record straight by providing adequate evidence backed rebuttal to his verbal diarrhea.

Good job.
Many people in the text cited by the OP were Igbos, for example,Agbani Ejike, the king of Bile. The people of Obama town near Kalabari are are what tribe?
Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by engrsyer(m): 4:28pm On Aug 13, 2019
hammerVJ:
Curtin, Philip D.; Lovejoy, Paul E. / Africans in bondage: studies in slavery and the slave trade : essays in honor of Philip D. Curtin on the occasion of the twenty-fifth anniversary of African Studies at the University of Wisconsin
(1986)

Alagoa, E. J.
Chapter 6: The slave trade in Niger Delta oral tradition and history, pp. [125]-Map 7.1 PDF (4.1 MB)

Page 131

NIGER DELTA ORAL TRADITION AND HISTORY
shrines on their original settlements that are sited in the
center of the island between the Atlantic and the Akassa Creek.
The original settlements are named ama-ogbo, central town or
town center. The reason for locating the towns away from the
river was clearly to escape the attention of pirates and slave
raiders.

The village of Elem Bakana in the Kalabari area is still
located in its old site away from the river. When I visited
the village in 1964, the men sang songs in which they suggested
that it was necessary to ensure that even the smoke from their
fires could not be seen by canoes passing on the river (Alagoa
1972: 140). Elem Bakana, as well as the neighboring villages
of Bukuma, Obonoma, and Udekama, may have been raided by
Kalabari slave dealers. These communities were of a different
culture and spoke a language different from the Kalabari. But
it would appear that raiding took place even among Kalabari-
speaking communities. Thus, the traditions concerning[b] Agbaniye
Ejike, King of Bile,
who ruled in the eighteenth century, state
that he raided and sacked all the neighboring Kalabari commu-
nities. [/b]


In a praise song to King Amakiri of Elem Kalabari, the
savagery of Agbaniye Ejike is contrasted with the constructive
leadership of Amakiri, who extended his authority by serving as
protector of the threatened communities (Alagoa 1972: 139).
In the western delta, the Ijo communities were placed in a
peripheral position in relation to Itsekiri and Benin. In
response they preyed on the trade of these two kingdoms,
sometimes supplying slaves to Itsekiri. Ijo piracy is reported
in most of the accounts of European visitors to the western
delta, and Ijo traditions confirm these piratical activities as
well as the supremacy of Itsekiri in the overseas trade (Alagoa
1972: 25-83).



The Kabo, for example, were notorious for their
piracy on the Forcados River. The Erohwa, an Isoko group, were
driven inland from their old site on the Forcados close to the
site of Patani, one of the best known raiding communities

(Hubbard 1948: 96-97).


There are few, if any, published accounts of European
raids for slaves in the Niger Delta, or indeed, on most of the
Nigerian coast. The Portuguese were more directly concerned
with the business of collecting slaves in the Congo, Angola,
and the Senegambia. A tradition among the Kabo suggests that
the idea of European raids for slaves was not a far-fetched
one, however. The Kabo account of how they lost control of the
slave trade on the Forcados River to the Mein group relates to
fear of European raids. During a period of low water, a rumor
spread that the Europeans would come up the river in the
following flood season and capture any persons they saw
(Hubbard 1948: 186; Alagoa 1972: 74-75). The Kabo proceeded to
dam the river and to divert it from their settlements. By the
following flood season, the river had been effectively rechan-
nelled through the territory of the neighboring Mein.

cc lalasticlala

http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/AfricanStudies/AfricanStudies-idx?type=turn&id=AfricanStudies.Lovejoy&entity=AfricanStudies.Lovejoy.p0145&isize=text

Op, It is AGBANIYE JIKE of BILLE Kingdom not Agbaniye Ejike of Bile Kingdom. Take correction
Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by GeorgeTheCoder: 4:46pm On Aug 13, 2019
Asari Dokubo looks like he is ripe for a heart attack.
Re: Asari Dokubo Lied, Kalabari Sold Kalabari Into Transatlantic Slavery. by legitnow: 5:57pm On Aug 13, 2019
GeorgeTheCoder:
Asari Dokubo looks like he is ripe for a heart attack.


That fat pig talk so much nonsense.

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