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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by tillaman(m): 5:46pm On Sep 07
Daddy freeze sef dey get revelations grin cheesy las las everyone Na scammer
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by jesusjnr(m): 5:50pm On Sep 07
hoopLA:


Funny enough, I was reading through her diatribe, trying to understand her direction.

Then I read your post and it all became clear in an instance.

That x,y,z do it does not make it right. All that blazay about honorarium and stuff, is grossly irrelevant and totally out of the point. As it is when talking with Christian folk.

The Bishop lied. And misquoted scripture. For what reason, I can't say. But he is guilty of misrepresenting the bible.

The issue here is, Benny Hinn has started puncturing holes in the type of gospel that the Bishop and his cohorts seem to base their doctrine upon. He has stated facts, even if his repentance may have yet to be seen outwardly, and instead of fans of the Bishop and his cohorts to agree that he more likely than not could have been guilty of propagating a fraudulent message (purposely or otherwise), they are here making middle grounds and excuses.

Until we tell ourselves the bitter truth, we will go nowhere. We have to tell ourselves that Christ NEVER promised anyone earthly comfort. In this world you shall have tribulations, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world. The words of Christ himself. Not any apostle who came to know him.

Until we learn to accept that cold hard fact, and depend entirely on God for our sustenance, we will continue to be a laughing stock, a punch-line factory and a source of humor to the world.

I tire for the beating about the bush oh just to answer a simple yes or no question.

The extent these ones go to defend such ones' is alarming to say the least.

But thank God for this significant scalp because Benny Hinn coming out to condemn this Antichrist doctrine is a huge deal.

Only a matter of time before the we begin to see the full effects of this step.

God bless.
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by petra1(m): 5:54pm On Sep 07
The fact that he condemned demand of $1,000 for TV programme sponsorship doesn't change the fact that it's important for Christian's to give for the work of God . Pls dont misquote him to fight your war.

The bible is very clear that giving must be done according to faith of individual.


2Co 9:6 — 2Co 9:7
But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver


Secondly for those who said he should return money . I dont get you . You dont seem to get him. He was making reference to TBN broadcast . They do telethon yearly which is a special broadcast to raise money for TBN network. That's when they call for people to give $1,000 . But since he started broadcast with pastor Chris on loveworld USA . They only allow people to give as they are led . And he said the culture of the other TV station which place demand on specific amount Is not right . Now some even give more and others give less . Everyone is free to give

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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by jesusjnr(m): 5:56pm On Sep 07
Maestro21:


All these many words is to say even though my "papa" lied with the Bible and misled people he is still my papa. But look at other people who are not my papa. They are the bad people. LOL.

You people are funny. Call out the false teaching and move on. There is nothing you are saying here that makes up for the clear false teaching. A half-truth will mean some part of the fib is true but there is nothing in the Job not tithing narrative that is true. Simple and short.

As for the other nonsense about Pastor Chris being bitter about his wife. That is why it is good to focus on the issue in front of you insteading of talking about matters you have no clue about. That snippet from the actual message you heard was done in 2008/9 waaay before his wife divorced him. So I don't know the bitterness you are talking about. If you even decided to be mature, you would have tried to listen to the whole thing to even know at some point he reminded the congregation that he is a father to 2 DAUGHTERS and will naturally not want to preach a message that might be "detrimental" to them or their possible marriages.

But in your haste to defend your own papa, see your post above. LOL.
Lol!

No be small tithing things oh.
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by MuttleyLaff: 8:15pm On Sep 07
generationz:
When they say read well before talking Nigerians won't and they will say people shouldn't call them lazy.

First of all

I don't do my father or papa
I take whatever teaching I can from any pastor I admire and the ones I don't agree with I discard. I only attend winners for the sake of going to church
.
Everything you typed is gospel truth, powerful and at same time poignant Poignant because most penterascals have seen the gospel to be a meal ticket and accordingly used it so.

Eating well is a form of self-respect. Watch the teaching and what you eat. Not many can eat any of those and be sanely the same again. If you know you cant eat the straw without spitting out the stick then be careful of what you eat and what teaching you take, else you'll become what you eat or worse

Repentance is not a religious practice imposed on us through fearful, money devourer scaremongering stories told to make the hearers feel worried or frightened, but repentance is the act of exchanging the lie that holds us captive, for the truth that sets us free

generationz:
I believe you are a Christ embassy member and will defend your Chris oyakhilome at any cost.

Well that man preached heresy.
Even if the snipet was said before they divorced you and I know the wife clearly said the marriage had fallen apart a long time.

He said she was not submissive and she said he was emotionally distant. That message he preached was clearly attacking her from a bitter biased mind of his
.

About saying he has two daughters broda I want to ask you are you a learner?

Don't people swear with their life they don't do one thing only to disguise to do it? Don't people tell you they are pastors and end up defrauding you?

Whether you agree with me or not that's your problem not mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsYEiYUP_OI

"Of course, the shoes has been pinching his feet since around and before 2007. Cracks were already showing in his rocky marriage. He couldnt and didnt know how to handle this badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman of a wife he had. He was at wits end, that is why he had to resort to misinterpreting the Bible, like, saying husband in the Bible means master, when what it means is man, like a woman having a man, as in, a husband. That was lie #1.

Then he went on to further goof that, woman was not part of God's original plan. Lie #2 and what a big fat heresy.

He moved on to then indirectly taking swipe at his wife's father. Codely saying the father didnt train the wife how to relate with her husband. Oyakhilome, was preaching about what he was dealing with at home. There is no two ways about it.

His missus, now ex wife saw through his bullshits, absurdity, irrationality and heresies. That is why she left him
"
- Religion / Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: Woman Was Not God's Original Idea (video) by MuttleyLaff: 8:34pm On Jul 12

"You are still bent on embarrassing yourself further by taking delight in being an ignoranus, hmm? I guess you're a glutton for embarrassment, erhn? Oyaks, is a pastor preaching to himself. Preaching sermons in codes, about himself and whats going down in his marital life. The shoe has being pinching his toes sotay, long time, before the shoe got taken off

All men are created equal, then a few become glorified firemen, like Maestro21 putting out fire for Oyakhilome


Oyakhilome is advocating elitism. Suck it up

In his teaching Oyaks is looking for a yes-woman, a weak person wife, who always will agree with the president and founder of Christ Embassy church, Chris Oyakhilome, the superior at work and master at home.

Listen Maestro21, man and woman, might have different roles to play and its true their roles might be different, but their rights are equal.

Of course, the man is the head, no one is disputing that, but the woman is the neck too, and she, as the neck, can within good reason(s), turn the head, whichever way she pleases. Maestro21, man doesnt need to or have to demand submissiveness of his wife, because this has to come naturally by the woman's own volition and not by hook or by crook methods, like the ones preached by the president and founder of Christ Embassy church, Chris Oyakhilome.

Maestro21, if you let your head get too big, it'll break your neck and he who waits for the sword to fall upon his neck, will surely lose his head. This is why its advised to cover and protect our wives. Husbands, are to love their wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her.

Unlike Oyaks and probably you too Maestro21 included, everyone knows that when a husband puts his foot down on the neck, he develops a stiff neck, that will likely drive him insane. When a husband breaks the neck, he eats no more. Husbands should try neck kisses, as nobody is immune to the neck kiss, but oohh no, Oyaks is too spiritual for that
"
- Religion / Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: Woman Was Not God's Original Idea (video) by Maestro21: 5:14pm On Jul 14

"For it is the time for the judgment to have begun from the house of God;
and if from us first, what will be the outcome of those disobeying the gospel of God?"
- 1 Peter 4:17

VBCampaign, knows he can rely on me to type an objective tell it as it is, comment, to his write-ups.

I find it grating when those who should know better, start asking questions wanting to know the reason for you being critical of this and that Christian denomination. Some even go to the length of claiming one insults and castigates every preacher, that insults are hauled on pastors who are at helms of prominent fellowships, and disregarding them being seniors, but when they point their bony little wagging finger to say something in those lines, I think to myself, what planet are they living in or what rock/stone are they under living? Arent they aware of 1 Peter 4:17 above ni? Dont they know that Jesus is not coming back to the Church that isn't without spot or wrinkle ni? Most, the likes of Biodun Fatoyinbo,
Chris Oyakhilome, David Oyedepo, Enoch Adeboye and a host of other pastors in Nigerian Pentecostal churches, if not already Pharisees, are increasingly becoming and behaving like a Pharisee, trying to entrap and trip up people, craving for and/or coveting the widows' mites. They are the the 21st century equivalent of the biblical Pharisees. Aside needing deliverance of this 21st century Pharisaical spirit inside, they each and all need the occasional kick up the jacksie, where the sun dont shine, for getting all the priorities wrong.
"
- Religion / Re: A Tale Of Two Conversions By Deji Yesufu by MuttleyLaff: 7:16pm On Jul 14

My sister, just like Oyaks, I wont keep a dog and bark myself, but have you, just as in above clip, noticed that dogs with the loudest barks, usually are the ones most afraid, hmm?
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by generationz(f): 8:39pm On Sep 07
MuttleyLaff:
Everything you typed is gospel truth, powerful and at same time poignant Poignant because most penterascals have seen the gospel to be a meal ticket and accordingly used it so.

Repentance is not a religious practice imposed on us through fearful, money devourer scaremongering stories told to make the hearers feel worried or frightened, but repentance is the act of exchanging the lie that holds us captive, for the truth that sets us free


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsYEiYUP_OI

"Of course, the shoes has been pinching his feet since around and before 2007. Cracks were already showing in his rocky marriage. He couldnt and didnt know how to handle this badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman of a wife he had. He was at wits end, that is why he had to resort to misinterpreting the Bible, like, saying husband in the Bible means master, when what it means is man, like a woman having a man, as in, a husband. That was lie #1.

Then he went on to further goof that, woman was not part of God's original plan. Lie #2 and what a big fat heresy.

He moved on to then indirectly taking swipe at his wife's father. Codely saying the father didnt train the wife how to relate with her husband. Oyakhilome, was preaching about what he was dealing with at home. There is no two ways about it.

His missus, now ex wife saw through his bullshits, absurdity, irrationality and heresies. That is why she left him
"
- Religion / Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: Woman Was Not God's Original Idea (video) by MuttleyLaff: 8:34pm On Jul 12

"You are still bent on embarrassing yourself further by taking delight in being an ignoranus, hmm? I guess you're a glutton for embarrassment, erhn? Oyaks, is a pastor preaching to himself. Preaching sermons in codes, about himself and whats going down in his marital life. The shoe has being pinching his toes sotay, long time, before the shoe got taken off

All men are created equal, then a few become glorified firemen, like Maestro21 putting out fire for Oyakhilome


Oyakhilome is advocating elitism. Suck it up

In his teaching Oyaks is looking for a yes-woman, a weak person wife, who always will agree with the president and founder of Christ Embassy church, Chris Oyakhilome, the superior at work and master at home.

Listen Maestro21, man and woman, might have different roles to play and its true their roles might be different, but their rights are equal.

Of course, the man is the head, no one is disputing that, but the woman is the neck too, and she, as the neck, can turn the head whichever way she pleases. Maestro21, man doesnt need to or have to demand submissiveness of his wife, because this has to come naturally by the woman's own volition and not by hook or by crook methods, like the ones preached by the president and founder of Christ Embassy church, Chris Oyakhilome.

Maestro21, if you let your head get too big, it'll break your neck and he who waits for the sword to fall upon his neck, will surely lose his head. This is why its advised to cover and protect our wives. Husbands, are to love their wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her.

Unlike Oyaks and probably you too Maestro21 included, everyone knows that when a husband puts his foot down on the neck, he develops a stiff neck, that will likely drive him insane. When a husband breaks the neck, he eats no more. Husbands should try neck kisses, as nobody is immune to the neck kiss, but oohh no, Oyaks is too spiritual for that
"

- Religion / Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome: Woman Was Not God's Original Idea (video) by Maestro21: 5:14pm On Jul 14

"For it is the time for the judgment to have begun from the house of God;
and if from us first, what will be the outcome of those disobeying the gospel of God?"
- 1 Peter 4:17

VBCampaign, knows he can rely on me to type an objective tell it as it is, comment, to his write-ups.

I find it grating when those who should know better, start asking questions wanting to know the reason for you being critical of this and that Christian denomination. Some even go to the length of claiming one insults and castigates every preacher, that insults are hauled on pastors who are at helms of prominent fellowships, and disregarding them being seniors, but when they point their bony little wagging finger to say something in those lines, I think to myself, what planet are they living in or what rock/stone are they under living? Arent they aware of 1 Peter 4:17 above ni? Dont they know that Jesus is not coming back to the Church that isn't without spot or wrinkle ni? Most, the likes of Biodun Fatoyinbo, Chris Oyakhilome, David Oyedepo, Enoch Adeboye and a host of other pastors in Nigerian Pentecostal churches, if not already Pharisees, are increasingly becoming and behaving like a Pharisee, trying to entrap and trip up people, craving for and/or coveting the widows' mites. They are the the 21st century equivalent of the biblical Pharisees. Aside needing deliverance of this 21st century Pharisaical spirit inside, they each and all need the occasional kick up the jacksie, where the sun dont shine, for getting all the priorities wrong.
"
- Religion / Re: A Tale Of Two Conversions By Deji Yesufu by MuttleyLaff: 7:16pm On Jul 14

My sister, just like Oyaks, I wont keep a dog and bark myself, but have you, just as in above clip, noticed that dogs with the loudest barks, usually are the ones most afraid


Thanks a lot Muttley.

One of the things that pissed me of about Oyakhilomes claim was when he stylishly mentioned his wife's father in the whole thing. I mean how low can one go. Even if you hate your wife say "... because her father didn't train her well". Like you don't have a father.

I stopped carrying specific pastors matter on my head like gala years ago.

Anyone who has been a church worker for a while will know that things aren't as they appear to be. Pastors fall into error and can be hard headed for a long time.

It doesn't help that in Africa no one corrects the man of God. Who will dare? He is all knowing o. Pastor no dey make mistake and if he does members must never know.

The desire to serve God is there but the greed, selfishness , autocracy etc can come and take control and the people won't even suspect.

These things are neither black nor white . They all have shades of grey in them.

That's why it's better to just be responsible for your life and yours alone. Work out your salvation and help others if you can.

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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by CaveAdullam: 8:47pm On Sep 07
generationz:
I'm sad that Benny hinn is just coming up to say this after so many years. Quite laudable because his friends wouldn't be happy with him for this confession.


I have discovered that the truth been preached from alters isn't straight

Many people have left the church abandoned God altogether because pastor told them God was a money doubler or bet naija shop owner. Sow your salary and reap a billion dollars. Like say na so e dey work. These men would preach these feel good messages but indoors they read, research, pray, fall, rise, network etc, to rise.

But they won't tell you everything as e dey go.

Igbokwe the rice seller has been deceived that once you sow large seeds or pay your tithe everything has been solved. Rufus the student in school believes being a church worked and praying guarantees his A's in class.

No teaching that self improvement and development is the key to mastery.

Igbokwe doesn't know that to be the biggest distributor he has to employ tools other than the spiritual to be better than his competitors.

Later when Non Christians excel better than Christians , baby Christians become dissolutioned and leave the church. They don't understand that even a christian has to live balanced life.

You will not become prime minister of Egypt because your pastor said it and you screamed the loudest amen or sow your salary. You will become one because apart from it being your "destiny" to be one, because you spent over 12 years in a managerial position. You learnt the intricacies of how to manage a home despite being a foreigner and not having previous experience.

By blood sweat and tears you became so good that your boss left you to be in charge. Plus you were so honest. I mean who can find such an honest man like you.

You didn't just become an good dream intepreter at age 30. No you had to first learn , learn from your own dreams. You first forray into this experience was when you shared your first big dream with your brothers. The drama, suffering and hatred that followed taught you never to shared your dreams and visions with others till you trust them.

From interpreting your own dreams you were able to interpret your friends dreams .Then by the time you stood before a king it was easy peasy. You seemed like a god but no one knew all the years of suffering and heart ache that went into gaining such mastery.

What of Moses who's forty years "wasted life" in the wilderness was him learning the intricacies of priesthood from his father in law. He first learnt the intricacies of leadership from the royal family that adopted him grin.


Of course he didn't know and you too dont know. That's why when your pastor screams "You will go from prison to palace" you shout amen and sow. Instead of you to ask yourself "Am I ready"? Do I have what it takes to lead? Lord please help with the required tools for leadership so I don't disgrace your name and myself.

This is why there is so much corruption in Nigeria. People don't believe merit anymore. No more mastery. We all want to share testimony of how pastor said it and God did it. Miracles happen but a real Christian will know the things he must put effort.

The spirit of wisdom wouldn't have worked if Daniel wasn't reading and spending "alone time" praying and trying to decipher Gods purpose
while his friends where eating the kings meal. Forget all the bragging of your pastors they are still sometimes faithless , confused and nearly give up just like you Mr. entrepreneur, student or employee.

Mastery is a tough road to walk on. Years later, Daniel went from just being an intelligent young man to predicting things that will happen over two thousand years from his time.

Back to Benny hinn

As someone who has gained so much insight from his books I love him. But recently, I have been watching him with corner eye. The kind of people Benny Hinn has been associating with for some years now for money, power and recognition....




Kai...... You are wise.
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by CaveAdullam: 8:50pm On Sep 07
OkCornel:


Let's analyze the scriptures.

Was Job's health and wealth attacked because he didn't tithe?

Did God restore Job because he tithed?

Yes or No.
Who do you expect to answer this question? Even the minister that preached the message cannot be able to provide an answer.

Chaeiiiii........ Dey haff lose; Tithe/pastors defenders.

Looooooooool.

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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by OkCornel(m): 8:54pm On Sep 07
CaveAdullam:
Who do you expect to answer this question? Even the minister that preached the message cannot be able to provide an answer.

Chaeiiiii........ Dey haff lose; Tithe/pastors defenders.

Looooooooool.

I guess Pastor worshippers are too scared to tell the truth. No one wants to ruffle feathers by being blunt.
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by CaveAdullam: 8:55pm On Sep 07
generationz:


How come pastor Hagins last book on prosperity isn't as popular as his other books.

Because his last book debunked many myths and lies pastors preach to fleece members.

These pastors know if people read it they are done for.

.
Are you talking about the book Midas Touch by Kenneth Hangin?
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by CaveAdullam: 8:59pm On Sep 07
hoopLA:


Funny enough, I was reading through her diatribe, trying to understand her direction.

Then I read your post and it all became clear in an instance.

That x,y,z do it does not make it right. All that blazay about honorarium and stuff, is grossly irrelevant and totally out of the point. As it is when talking with Christian folk.

The Bishop lied. And misquoted scripture. For what reason, I can't say. But he is guilty of misrepresenting the bible.

The issue here is, Benny Hinn has started puncturing holes in the type of gospel that the Bishop and his cohorts seem to base their doctrine upon. He has stated facts, even if his repentance may have yet to be seen outwardly, and instead of fans of the Bishop and his cohorts to agree that he more likely than not could have been guilty of propagating a fraudulent message (purposely or otherwise), they are here making middle grounds and excuses.

Until we tell ourselves the bitter truth, we will go nowhere. We have to tell ourselves that Christ NEVER promised anyone earthly comfort. In this world you shall have tribulations, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world. The words of Christ himself. Not any apostle who came to know him.

Until we learn to accept that cold hard fact, and depend entirely on God for our sustenance, we will continue to be a laughing stock, a punch-line factory and a source of humor to the world.

Ekueme. You are really wise!!!!!
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by MuttleyLaff: 9:30pm On Sep 07
CaveAdullam:
Are you talking about the book Midas Touch by Kenneth Hangin?
Yes
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by AntiMCU: 9:43pm On Sep 07
generationz:
I'm sad that Benny hinn is just coming up to say this after so many years. Quite laudable because his friends wouldn't be happy with him for this confession.


I have discovered that the truth been preached from alters isn't straight

Many people have left the church abandoned God altogether because pastor told them God was a money doubler or bet naija shop owner. Sow your salary and reap a billion dollars. Like say na so e dey work. These men would preach these feel good messages but indoors they read, research, pray, fall, rise, network etc, to rise.

But they won't tell you everything as e dey go.

Igbokwe the rice seller has been deceived that once you sow large seeds or pay your tithe everything has been solved. Rufus the student in school believes being a church worked and praying guarantees his A's in class.

No teaching that self improvement and development is the key to mastery.

Igbokwe doesn't know that to be the biggest distributor he has to employ tools other than the spiritual to be better than his competitors.

Later when Non Christians excel better than Christians , baby Christians become dissolutioned and leave the church. They don't understand that even a christian has to live balanced life.

You will not become prime minister of Egypt because your pastor said it and you screamed the loudest amen or sow your salary. You will become one because apart from it being your "destiny" to be one, because you spent over 12 years in a managerial position. You learnt the intricacies of how to manage a home despite being a foreigner and not having previous experience.

By blood sweat and tears you became so good that your boss left you to be in charge. Plus you were so honest. I mean who can find such an honest man like you.

You didn't just become an good dream intepreter at age 30. No you had to first learn , learn from your own dreams. You first forray into this experience was when you shared your first big dream with your brothers. The drama, suffering and hatred that followed taught you never to shared your dreams and visions with others till you trust them.

From interpreting your own dreams you were able to interpret your friends dreams .Then by the time you stood before a king it was easy peasy. You seemed like a god but no one knew all the years of suffering and heart ache that went into gaining such mastery.

What of Moses who's forty years "wasted life" in the wilderness was him learning the intricacies of priesthood from his father in law. He first learnt the intricacies of leadership from the royal family that adopted him grin.


Of course he didn't know and you too dont know. That's why when your pastor screams "You will go from prison to palace" you shout amen and sow. Instead of you to ask yourself "Am I ready"? Do I have what it takes to lead? Lord please help with the required tools for leadership so I don't disgrace your name and myself.

This is why there is so much corruption in Nigeria. People don't believe merit anymore. No more mastery. We all want to share testimony of how pastor said it and God did it. Miracles happen but a real Christian will know the things he must put effort.

The spirit of wisdom wouldn't have worked if Daniel wasn't reading and spending "alone time" praying and trying to decipher Gods purpose
while his friends where eating the kings meal. Forget all the bragging of your pastors they are still sometimes faithless , confused and nearly give up just like you Mr. entrepreneur, student or employee.

Mastery is a tough road to walk on. Years later, Daniel went from just being an intelligent young man to predicting things that will happen over two thousand years from his time.

Back to Benny hinn

As someone who has gained so much insight from his books I love him. But recently, I have been watching him with corner eye. The kind of people Benny Hinn has been associating with for some years now for money, power and recognition....




One of the best posts I've seen in Nairaland's religious section.
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by MuttleyLaff: 10:07pm On Sep 07
double post
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by MuttleyLaff: 10:08pm On Sep 07
generationz:
I'm sad that Benny hinn is just coming up to say this after so many years. Quite laudable because his friends wouldn't be happy with him for this confession
I am pleased that he slowly but surely is coming out because better late than never, besides he has a lot more confessing to do, as would be noticed from what follows below

generationz:
I have discovered that the truth been preached from alters isn't straight

Many people have left the church abandoned God altogether because pastor told them God was a money doubler or bet naija shop owner. Sow your salary and reap a billion dollars. Like say na so e dey work. These men would preach these feel good messages but indoors they read, research, pray, fall, rise, network etc, to rise.

But they won't tell you everything as e dey go.
Igbokwe the rice seller has been deceived that once you sow large seeds or pay your tithe everything has been solved. Rufus the student in school believes being a church worked and praying guarantees his A's in class.

No teaching that self improvement and development is the key to mastery.

Igbokwe doesn't know that to be the biggest distributor he has to employ tools other than the spiritual to be better than his competitors.

Later when Non Christians excel better than Christians , baby Christians become dissolutioned and leave the church. They don't understand that even a christian has to live balanced life.

You will not become prime minister of Egypt because your pastor said it and you screamed the loudest amen or sow your salary. You will become one because apart from it being your "destiny" to be one, because you spent over 12 years in a managerial position. You learnt the intricacies of how to manage a home despite being a foreigner and not having previous experience.

By blood sweat and tears you became so good that your boss left you to be in charge. Plus you were so honest. I mean who can find such an honest man like you.

You didn't just become an good dream intepreter at age 30. No you had to first learn , learn from your own dreams. You first forray into this experience was when you shared your first big dream with your brothers. The drama, suffering and hatred that followed taught you never to shared your dreams and visions with others till you trust them.

From interpreting your own dreams you were able to interpret your friends dreams .Then by the time you stood before a king it was easy peasy. You seemed like a god but no one knew all the years of suffering and heart ache that went into gaining such mastery.

What of Moses who's forty years "wasted life" in the wilderness was him learning the intricacies of priesthood from his father in law. He first learnt the intricacies of leadership from the royal family that adopted him grin.

Of course he didn't know and you too dont know. That's why when your pastor screams "You will go from prison to palace" you shout amen and sow. Instead of you to ask yourself "Am I ready"? Do I have what it takes to lead? Lord please help with the required tools for leadership so I don't disgrace your name and myself.

This is why there is so much corruption in Nigeria. People don't believe merit anymore. No more mastery. We all want to share testimony of how pastor said it and God did it. Miracles happen but a real Christian will know the things he must put effort.

The spirit of wisdom wouldn't have worked if Daniel wasn't reading and spending "alone time" praying and trying to decipher Gods purpose
while his friends where eating the kings meal. Forget all the bragging of your pastors they are still sometimes faithless , confused and nearly give up just like you Mr. entrepreneur, student or employee.

Mastery is a tough road to walk on. Years later, Daniel went from just being an intelligent young man to predicting things that will happen over two thousand years from his time.

Back to Benny Hinn

As someone who has gained so much insight from his books I love him. But recently, I have been watching him with corner eye. The kind of people Benny Hinn has been associating with for some years now for money, power and recognition....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9SS95q2kpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOWKEyz6cNM

"You're doing yourself a great disservice skimming through that FYI

This thread is not about personalities but more of "shine your eyes welu welu" if not its "last chance saloon" situation then.

It isn't really about the contemporary men around us but is more about how they came about their teachings, practices, doctrine (i.e. what or where is the origin)
The "WOF talks" already is showing where and how the contemporary men around us got influenced or indoctrinated by "relics and largely unknown people"

It is from the "relics and largely unknown people" that some contemporary men around us learned:
- to build universities and become chancellors of such universities
- to set up and practice healing rooms or schools

- to wear white suits albeit the international and our own local one don't anymore
- to pursue acquiring private jets
- to be vainglory and puffed up in biggest/largest building(s) in the world
- to merchandise, personalise etc the Gospel
- to acquire bodyguards and/or security personnel
- to etc etc
"
- Excerpt from 2014 post

generationz, you my sister recently, have been watching him with the corner eye. The kind of people Benny Hinn has been associating with for some years now for money, power and recognition, but we have been on Benny Hinn's & Co case a long, long, long, lol, long time ago. I remember, a post I uploaded years ago, when we did an exposé on the cartel he is associated with, then I detailed, how Benny Hinn overnight changed for the "bad," after getting approached by two men, then started wearing white suits after the meeting with the two men, who promised him financial riches, fame and power.

This is just the tip of a big and submerged iceberg, as slowly but surely Benny Hinn has more to confess and explain a lot all more, like for example, explain what he was playing at with that "amazing anointing reeking holy ghost" white jacket in the above clips, where he was using it as a zapping rod and flinging it forcefully at innocent and gullible people or he even needs to try explain what exactly he was telling them to drink in
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by Maestro21: 11:01pm On Sep 07
generationz:


When they say read well before talking Nigerians won't and they will say people shouldn't call them lazy.

First of all

I don't do my father or papa
I take whatever teaching I can from any pastor I admire and the ones I don't agree with I discard. I only attend winners for the sake of going to church.

I believe you are a Christ embassy member and will defend your Chris oyakhilome at any cost.

Well that man preached heresy.
Even if the snipet was said before they divorced you and I know the wife clearly said the marriage had fallen apart a long time.

He said she was not submissive and she said he was emotionally distant. That message he preached was clearly attacking her from a bitter biased mind of his.

About saying he has two daughters broda I want to ask you are you a learner?

Don't people swear with their life they don't do one thing only to disguise to do it? Don't people tell you they are pastors and end up defrauding you?



Whether you agree with me or not that's your problem not mine.

Read up on my previous posts to have an idea about who you are engaging. "Papa" is what Living Faith worshipers call Bishop Oyedepo. Don't waste your time on the sophistry you are trying to employ about listening to different Pastors. That is garbage. Signed...sealed...delivered. He is a wonderful MOG by the way and I listen to some of his teachings when I am chanced.

Notwithstanding, his message about Job was absolute rubbish and extrabiblical. Just accept it and move on. It is one thing to argue barefaced scriptures and it is another thing to just mention a pure conjecture and call it word of God. On Bishop Oyedepo's best day he is not a teacher in the body of Christ. He does not have that office so I understand where the error must have come from.

As per the nonsense you are talking about, let me just LOL. I already told you that message was years before SHE divorced him. What I did not add was that he has preached series of messages along this line even as far back as the 80s (Yes, before he got married). Maybe that time, he was also bitter about a wife he had not married.

You are asking me about being a learner because you cannot extend your "bitter narrative" into his daughters since it countermands your rubbish point. That is the danger of conjectures.

Don't worry about Pastors saying one thing and meaning another. This particular one did not even use his pulpit to address men of self who castigated him on their own pulpits, so I wonder why you think he will use his message to lambaste a wife who he sought to keep in marriage when she wanted contrary.

I am not trying to convince you about anything o jare. Preach your imaginative figments and be happy.

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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by Maestro21: 11:04pm On Sep 07
petra1:

The fact that he condemned demand of $1,000 for TV programme sponsorship doesn't change the fact that it's important for Christian's to give for the work of God . Pls dont misquote him to fight your war.

The bible is very clear that giving must be done according to faith of individual.


2Co 9:6 — 2Co 9:7
But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver


Secondly for those who said he should return money . I dont get you . You dont seem to get him. He was making reference to TBN broadcast . They do telethon yearly which is a special broadcast to raise money for TBN network. That's when they call for people to give $1,000 . But since he started broadcast with pastor Chris on loveworld USA . They only allow people to give as they are led . And he said the culture of the other TV station which place demand on specific amount Is not right . Now some even give more and others give less . Everyone is free to give

I have read delusional people online who said they are the ones who even preached to him. I laughed. Pastor Benny has come out to say he started thinking down this line 2 or 3 years ago. People who can discern will know the recent influence he came in contact with in that time span. He has done 2 shows now telling people exactly what he was referring to which is exactly what you have above.
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by Truthchiz: 11:22pm On Sep 07
I still do not believe him. Let's watch his consistency for a year and see. He has said this kind of thing before yet still continued in it.

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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by MuttleyLaff: 11:27pm On Sep 07
petra1:
The fact that he condemned demand of $1,000 for TV programme sponsorship doesn't change the fact that it's important for Christian's to give for the work of God . Pls dont misquote him to fight your war.

The bible is very clear that giving must be done according to faith of individual.

2Co 9:6 — 2Co 9:7
But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver


Secondly for those who said he should return money . I dont get you . You dont seem to get him. He was making reference to TBN broadcast . They do telethon yearly which is a special broadcast to raise money for TBN network. That's when they call for people to give $1,000.

But since he started broadcast with pastor Chris on loveworld USA . They only allow people to give as they are led . And he said the culture of the other TV station which place demand on specific amount Is not right . Now some even give more and others give less . Everyone is free to give

Maestro21:
I have read delusional people online who said they are the ones who even preached to him. I laughed. Pastor Benny has come out to say he started thinking down this line 2 or 3 years ago. People who can discern will know the recent influence he came in contact with in that time span. He has done 2 shows now telling people exactly what he was referring to which is exactly what you have above.

MuttleyLaff:
What we see here is the general lack of will to preach and teach voluntary giving

What is satanic is sidestepping, over stepping and overlooking the poor and needy, instead giving to already rich people
It is wrong to sow ideas to believers that if you dont comply ecclesiastical monitised tithe tax giving, financial misfortune shall befall them

Why dont we use Oshogbo as a faith test case?
Teach for about three months, on the principle of giving, bar ecclesiastical monitised tithe tax giving
Teach on caring response to need giving
and see how the reliance on ecclesiastical monitised tithe tax giving, will turn out to have all along been a false idea and/or belief
Further see how Yahweh Jirer will provide from voluntary giving

Voluntary giving has no inducement, no baits, no carrots, no fear tactics
It simply is, decide in your heart what really excites you to give
Don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure
You shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give

What good are wings without the courage to fly
Petra1 do you think Oshogbo can go wrong, with this leap of faith?
Petra1 do you think embracing this superior principle of giving is not good enough for Oshogbo?
Petra1, be like a tree, let the dead leaves drop

There is no stick in Luke 6:38 and 2 Corinthians 9:6
There is no curse, no threat in Luke 6:38 and 2 Corinthians 9:6 but just plain good old teaching
There is no mention in Luke 6:38 and 2 Corinthians 9:6 of a fixed regular percentage or ecclesiastical monitised tithe tax giving
"1Now I want you to know, dear brothers and sisters, what God in his kindness has done through the churches in Macedonia.
2They are being tested by many troubles, and they are very poor. But they are also filled with abundant joy, which has overflowed in rich generosity.
3For I can testify that they gave not only what they could afford, but far more. And they did it of their own free will.
4They begged us again and again for the privilege of sharing in the gift for the believersb in Jerusalem.
5They even did more than we had hoped, for their first action was to give themselves to the Lord and to us, just as God wanted them to do.
6So we have urged Titus, who encouraged your giving in the first place, to return to you and encourage you to finish this ministry of giving.
7Since you excel in so many ways—in your faith, your gifted speakers, your knowledge, your enthusiasm, and your love from us
—I want you to excel also in this gracious act of giving.
8I am not commanding you to do this. But I am testing how genuine your love is by comparing it with the eagerness of the other churches.
9You know the generous grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. Though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that by his poverty he could make you rich.
10Here is my advice: It would be good for you to finish what you started a year ago. Last year you were the first who wanted to give, and you were the first to begin doing it.
11Now you should finish what you started. Let the eagerness you showed in the beginning be matched now by your giving. Give in proportion to what you have.
12Whatever you give is acceptable if you give it eagerly. And give according to what you have, not what you don’t have.
13Of course, I don’t mean your giving should make life easy for others and hard for yourselves. I only mean that there should be some equality
.
14Right now you have plenty and can help those who are in need. Later, they will have plenty and can share with you when you need it. In this way, things will be equal.
15As the Scriptures say,
“Those who gathered a lot had nothing left over,
and those who gathered only a little had enough.”
- 2 Corinthians 8:1-15 NLT

Each of you should give whatever you have decided.
You shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give, since God loves a cheerful giver.
- 2 Corinthians 9:7

There is a sucker born every minute to prey on or pray for,
and that is what people who peddle these kind of misleading information rely on

Why not acquaint members with all these financial responsibilities
and teach them about the principle of Generous & Cheerful Giving as found in 2 Corinthians 8:1-15 & 2 Corinthians 9:7
I doubt whether at all 2 Corinthians 8:12-13 is ever taken notice off
"
- Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by MuttleyLaff: 11:30pm On Jan 22, 2017

Wtf, where's the faith, all along to be doing this non induced voluntary giving before, hmm?
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by generationz(f): 5:12am On Sep 08
Maestro21:


Read up on my previous posts to have an idea about who you are engaging. "Papa" is what Living Faith worshipers call Bishop Oyedepo. Don't waste your time on the sophistry you are trying to employ about listening to different Pastors. That is garbage. Signed...sealed...delivered. He is a wonderful MOG by the way and I listen to some of his teachings when I awm chanced.

Notwithstanding, his message about Job was absolute rubbish and extrabiblical. Just accept it and move on. It is one thing to argue barefaced scriptures and it is another thing to just mention a pure conjecture and call it word of God. On Bishop Oyedepo's best day he is not a teacher in the body of Christ. He does not have that office so I understand where the error must have come from.

As per the nonsense you are talking about, let me just LOL. I already told you that message was years before SHE divorced him. What I did not add was that he has preached series of messages along this line even as far back as the 80s (Yes, before he got married). Maybe that time, he was also bitter about a wife he had not married.

You are asking me about being a learner because you cannot extend your "bitter narrative" into his daughters since it countermands your rubbish point. That is the danger of conjectures.

Don't worry about Pastors saying one thing and meaning another. This particular one did not even use his pulpit to address men of self who castigated him on their own pulpits, so I wonder why you think he will use his message to lambaste a wife who he sought to keep in marriage when she wanted contrary.

I am not trying to convince you about anything o jare. Preach your imaginative figments and be happy.

grin Inukwa

Where did I mention that oyedepo was right in that clip?

Even the guy I replied his comments agreed with me at the end about half truths.

All my analysis is talking about a much bigger picture of things in the church and you are still talking about a clip I left a long time ago. grin

Didn't you read where I said I totally go against what papa said in the Clip?

Oga please, I never initially quoted you don't carry bring your frustrations to my side since you can't construct simple sentences without insults.

Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by generationz(f): 5:25am On Sep 08
MuttleyLaff:
I am pleased that he slowly but surely is coming out because better late than never, besides he has a lot more confessing to do, as would be noticed from what follows below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9SS95q2kpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOWKEyz6cNM

"You're doing yourself a great disservice skimming through that FYI

This thread is not about personalities but more of "shine your eyes welu welu" if not its "last chance saloon" situation then.

It isn't really about the contemporary men around us but is more about how they came about their teachings, practices, doctrine (i.e. what or where is the origin)
The "WOF talks" already is showing where and how the contemporary men around us got influenced or indoctrinated by "relics and largely unknown people"

It is from the "relics and largely unknown people" that some contemporary men around us learned:
- to build universities and become chancellors of such universities
- to set up and practice healing rooms or schools

- to wear white suits albeit the international and our own local one don't anymore
- to pursue acquiring private jets
- to be vainglory and puffed up in biggest/largest building(s) in the world
- to merchandise, personalise etc the Gospel
- to acquire bodyguards and/or security personnel
- to etc etc
"
- Excerpt from 2014 post

generationz, you my sister recently, have been watching him with the corner eye. The kind of people Benny Hinn has been associating with for some years now for money, power and recognition, but we have been on Benny Hinn's & Co case a long, long, long, lol, long time ago. I remember, a post I uploaded years ago, when we did an exposé on the cartel he is associated with, then I detailed, how Benny Hinn overnight changed for the "bad," after getting approached by two men, then started wearing white suits after the meeting with the two men, who promised him financial riches, fame and power.

This is just the tip of a big and submerged iceberg, as slowly but surely Benny Hinn has more to confess and explain a lot all more, like for example, explain what he was playing at with that "amazing anointing reeking holy ghost" white jacket in the above clips, where he was using it as a zapping rod and flinging it forcefully at innocent and gullible people or he even needs to try explain what exactly he was telling them to drink in


Two men?

Did he ever mention this?

I would like to see the exposé
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by generationz(f): 5:27am On Sep 08
cool
CaveAdullam:
Are you talking about the book Midas Touch by Kenneth Hangin?

Yep.
I was told it they hindered it from being a best seller.

Did you hear about it?
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by dermmy: 6:11am On Sep 08
OkCornel:


Let's analyze the scriptures.

Was Job's health and wealth attacked because he didn't tithe?

Did God restore Job because he tithed?

Yes or No.

Brilliant question. These people are just preaching error and they are misleading the gullible ones. Well i'm happy for my life i've known the truth from the beginning of my christian walk.

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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by dermmy: 6:47am On Sep 08
CodeTemplar:

Readers Beware!!!
The bold part was only thrown into the article to blend into or give a wrong perception of the actual message Benny Hinn is passing, which is the next paragraph.
This is how agents of devil obfuscate God's word about tithe, offering and seeds generally through twisting of words and doctrines of great men of the faith. They twist the words of men of faith. Gfd
Readers Beware!!!

Hello CodeTemplar. There are Bhuddist Billionaires in Japan who are richer than Oyedepo and other men of GOD in Nigeria these people don't tithe or sow seed they don't even know any one called JESUS christ pls can you tell me how these people keep getting richer. They are even employing those who go to church and pay tithe.

China has the highest population of Billionaires in the world and these people are not christians yet they are getting blessed but here in Africa an average African christian tithe, sow seed yet he is still struggling to buy a motorcycle. Please can you explain?

Nigerian Pastors would scare the hell out of their members when it comes to tithing by saying the destroyer would destroy their finances, health and the rest if they don't tithe. yet the Japanese Bhuddists, Chinese and American billionaires who don't tithe live longer than Nigerians, it's evident in our life expectancy.

Can't you see that those who control the wealth of this world are people who don't even know the true living GOD let alone tithing or seed sowing. They own big companies that produce cars, jets that our Pastors are using to flaunt their riches. Those preaching the tithe and seed sowing Gospel are the ones getting richer while their listeners don't own a jet or private university. The prosperity Gospel is a fraud.

You can still educate a christian brother.

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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by CaveAdullam: 8:28am On Sep 08
generationz:
cool

Yep.
I was told it they hindered it from being a best seller.

Did you hear about it?
Nope.

There is nothing anyone can do about the truth, the truth will always prove itself in the passage of time.

By the special Grace of the Almighty God, many Christians are now seeking the Lord Jesus Christ not through their pastor, church, peers or parents but by the comfort and help of the Holy Spirit.

A time is coming, those ministers that are obstinate and are not willing to make a turn to a positive change together with their false associates and pastorpreneurs, will be relegated to their various hometowns after returning all they have stolen by deceit and pressure.

It's just a matter of Time!!!

Happy Sunday.

God bless.

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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by OkCornel(m): 8:49am On Sep 08
dermmy:


Brilliant question. These people are just preaching error and they are misleading the gullible ones. Well i'm happy for my life i've known the truth from the beginning of my christian walk.

Apostle John made this very clear in 1 John 2 v 26-27;
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him


Unfortunately, rather than listen to the Holy Spirit for guidance...most believers would rather listen to the idols of flesh and blood they've turned their gods of men into. Thus falling hook, line and sinker into deceit. Even defending the lies and errors of such men.

Everything a man hears from the altar ought to be cross checked with the Holy Spirit for validity or otherwise before accepting or rejecting such. It is the Holy Spirit that guides believers into ALL TRUTH...

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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by MuttleyLaff: 9:04am On Sep 08
AntiMCU:
What's your view on this tithing of a thing.

Personally, I believe in freewill giving: as you're led by the spirit.
The only tithes to God are:
1) the Levitical tithe aka Mosaic Law tithe, which are given to the priest (e.g. Levite)
and
2) the Abraham type of tithe, given to a priest cum king (i.e. Melchizedek)
- see #3 below

Other tithes in a secular world context (i.e. tenth, 1/10, 10% and possibly 0.1) are given
1) at pagan temples to priest(s) (note extra biblical references will be provided upon request, same with #3 below)
2) Upon the king's demand's (note bible references will be provided upon request)
3) to local ruler cum priest worthy of the consideration, after taking up arms, go to fight and winning battle fight(s) or war

1) There is obligatory tithe imposed by the Mosaic law (i.e. the Levitical tithe also known as the Mosaic Law tithe)
2) There is obligatory tithe imposed by the christian gatherings law
(i.e. ecclesiastical tithe, where christian gatherings, taxes its members tenth, 1/10, 10% and possibly 0.1 too, of their financial income)
3) There is obligatory tithe imposed by custom law (i.e. Abraham's tithing was done, due to the social setting of that time)
4) There is obligatory tithe imposed by monarchy law (i.e. tenth of seed and of vineyards, given to the king's officials and servants)

Now, there is another, which is voluntary tithe,
The nuance in this sort of tithe or tithing, is that it isn't imposed by the Mosaic law, not by christian gatherings law or by any custom law
It so happens or occurs, when FREELY, one DECIDES to GIVE, a tenth of one's financial standing, as a form of contribution or donation toward's Kingdom purposes, aid or means

In fact, it's tithing subtle difference, is that, it is NOT obligatory or imposed

Bible writers and God use the terms, tenth and tithe interchangeably. So if I voluntarily give 10%, a tenth or 10 out 100 of my money contribution or donation toward's Kingdom purposes, aid or means, I technically then, have given a tithe. Considering that it is not a taxed, obligatory or imposition tithe, then I am free, to go ahead giving the tenth also called tithe.

All tithes or tithings, are a form of giving, but NOT all giving are a tenth, tithe or tithing, this is because the giving could more or less than a tenth, tithe or tithing

The Bible's message today for believers, is about a revolutionary way of giving, where believers are instructed or urged as in 2 Corinthians 9:7 above

Giving could be 50% today, as in 50% equals half of your money. Giving could be 10% next month, as in 10% equals a tithe, tenth, or 10 out 100 of your money (i.e. voluntary tithe, voluntarily giving 10%) Giving could be 100% following month, as in 100%, equals all of your money. Giving could be 0% following month after, as in 0%, equals zero goes out of your salary/wages/savings money. You could decide to give 1% month following after, as in 1%, equals 1 out 100 of your money

The giving cycle is not fixed, it might repeat or not repeat itself. How much you give, changes according to the ammount or percentage, you willingly decide to give

It is the freedom, to give whatever you're comfortable with cheerfully. This sort of giving regardless of the percentages is desirable and not obligatory or enforced. Without stipulating amounts you are to give, you're are being trusted to know, to do the 3 right things, as shown in 2 Corinthians 9:7, namely: 1/ decide how much, 2/ don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure and 3/ give cheerfully

You must each decide in your heart how much to give.
And don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure.
(i.e. you shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give)
"For God loves a person who gives cheerfully."

- 2 Corinthians 9:7

It is obligatory, taxed or imposed tithing that Christians cannot tithe. This is because kind of tithing, is dead with the law and believers are not obligated to perform any form of imposed tithing

Anyone giving imposed tithing is practising a religion, that God our Father doesnt accept as pure and faultless. Correctively, the Bible teaches the "church" the revolutionary way of giving, where believers are instructed or urged in 2 Corinthians 9:7 above, to do

2 Corinthians 9:7, by the way actually, is a rehashed principle God HAS always endorsed,
as evident in
Exodus 25:2, Exodus 35:29, Deuteronomy 15:10 & 1 Chronicles 29:9

I am sorry to say, there is an awful lot of empty rhetoric written about tithing on most threads and I believe the reason is due to the low understanding of the meaning "no one knew Melchizedek birth or death" because of a low understanding of why it was Melchizedek, Abraham opted to give the spoils of war tithe to, because of a low understanding of the customary law behind the tithe Abraham gave and lastly but not the least because of a low understanding of the circumstances of how the Levi got given the office of the priesthood. Yep lots of low understandings.

There you will bring your burnt offerings, your sacrifices, your tithes,
your sacred offerings, your offerings to fulfill a vow, your voluntary offerings,
and your offerings of the firstborn animals of your herds and flocks.

- Deuteronomy 12:6

Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
- Malachi 3:8

Of course, tithing is not offering, if it was, there wont be a distinction btween them, in Deuteronomy 12:6 and Malachi 3:8. Tithing, especially taxed, mandatory or obligatory tithe, DOES NOT give you security against satan. Even voluntary tithing doesnt do that. It is placing yourselves under God's authority and resisting satan, that is the security against satan and/or is the security for satan running away from you

And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.
- Genesis 35:12

And the LORD said unto him,
This is the land which I sware unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, saying,
I will give it unto thy seed: I have caused thee to see it with thine eyes, but thou shalt not go over thither.

- Deuteronomy 34:4

Jacob did not tithe. Jacob did not tithe because it was going to be, the Israelite that wasn't born yet, who will do and actually ended up doing the tithing. The seed from which the Israelites came was in Jacob's body. It is this seed 430 years plus later, who will take up arms, go to fight and winning battle fight(s) or war to acquire and have the land

It is interesting to note that the format of how the tithe vow will be claimed by God took a different turn because of the Israelite's flagrant and offending golden calf misbehaviour

It was under the then present circumstances, that Jesus says to tithe, He never said to tithe after. The way to know this is from the Greek original word, "die", used in Matthew 23:23, that means, it is necessary, that they tithe but when that necessity is over, that duty or responsibility for them to do tithe, is no longer required

No principle of faith about tithing or to tithe was revealed through Abraham. Abraham, simply was following a Mesopotamia era custom practice that needed to be carried after successful win(s) of fighting a battle or war

Jesus, in Matthew 23:23, wasnt and didnt say give ecclesiastical tithe. Ecclesiastical tithe, is where a christian gathering, taxes its members tenth, 1/10, 10% and/or possibly 0.1 too, of their financial income. This is not a giving led by the Spirit, but one imposed and/or enforced by organised churches

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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by MuttleyLaff: 9:04am On Sep 08
Double post
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by MuttleyLaff: 9:06am On Sep 08
Why this double post again
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by MuttleyLaff: 9:06am On Sep 08
generationz:
Two men?
Oh no, my bad, it actually is four men. It's being a long, long, long, long time ago, and I meant to type four men approched him. I think the man, James Eugene Ewing, infamously known as God's ghostwriter was among one of the four men that visited him.

generationz:
Did he ever mention this?
Yes, he mentioned it to this one time childhood friend of his, a woman, by the name Trisha O'Connor, who I'll soon be mentioning and talking more of in relation to Benny Hinn as we go below. He told Trish, that four men came into the shoe store he was then working in, anointed him and gave him the sparkling white jacket to be wearing, just like the same one, he on TV, flings at people whacking them with it, and having them fall down, like as if, they're falling bowling game set hit with a ball, and so the era of him wearing white suits began, that even Oyakhilome at one time copied Benny Hinn's style of faked/staged miracles, wearing white suit etcetera too

Now, generationz, quickly grab a cup of tea and munchies because here we go, as I lift up the lid, and reveal somethings, like other info about Benny Hinn, not easily found on surface public domain

To start with, though he claims to be Jewish, not many know that Benny Hinn, formerly known as Toufik Benedictus "Benny" Hinn, is Palestinian. His parents were born in Palestine, with Greek, Palestinian and Armenian heritage.

Benny Hinn's dad, being a Palestinian in an occupied country, decided to, after the 1967 Arab–Israeli War (i.e. ''The Six-Day War'') emigrate the family to Canada as refugees for being Palestinians. The refugeed Hinn family, then settled down in Ontario, where Benny Hinn was assigned a young girl of similar age like him, called Trisha O'Connor or Trish, to learn English from her. The young childhood Benny Hinn friend girl Trish, being a believer, of course shared Jesus with Benny during the time he was taught English in the ESL classes he took with Tisha being a volunteer teacher (i.e. ESL means "English As a Second Language" classes) It has to be mentioned that she and Benny also used to work together in an ice cream shop when young.

generationz, hin don tay wey yansh don be for fowl back ooo, lol. Do you know that this same Trish, that knew Benny from way back when he first emigrated to Canada, was aware, as early and as far back as 1976, that Benny Hinn was dancing with the devil. Trish, is on record, saying that she was present at Benny Hinn's first performance, as that is what she calls and knows it to be, a performance. She said it was an event with around 250 attending people where Benny Hinn was claiming to train pastors on how to bring and/or acquire the "Shekinah Glory " that she approached Benny Hinn on the stage before the day event started to warn him, but she only managed to say "Benny ...", after which Benny pushed her away and saying "Not now Trish. I am with the Holy Spirit" So Trish now replied back, defensively by saying "I am with the Holy Spirit too and I've got to tell you something here" but she said before she could begin to say anything further, Benny just literally and physically pushed her aside, at which she said she felt so rejected and so never got the chance to say to him that what he is doing is here is wrong. This is the same Benny Hinn, who on live TV broadcast, said, he saw a man before his eyes turn into a snake and 2000 people saw this alongside him, lol. Benny with his barefaced lies just always makes me laff. With Benny Hinn everything he says somehow leads and always will lead to a dollar note, a leopard can't/doesn't change its spots. The love of money is the root of all his evils.

generationz:
I would like to see the exposé
I am sure you would love to lol and you've just seen or read a bit from the above. We have been on this man's case and his numerous cohorts, here on NL, a long long long long time ago

generationz:
Yep.
I was told it they hindered it from being a best seller.
https://www.nairaland.com/1957135/midas-touch-balanced-approach-biblical
It was a best seller. Nobody hindered "The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - by Kenneth Hagin" book. In fact you can see from the above almost 105 page thread link, how we rated the book highly and at same time, couldnt help wondered what the reason was why Papa Hagin wrote a book that didnt have a feel of genuiness, truthfulness and sincerity about it, as it fell short. It was a disappointment, as it failed to reach a standard that is expected, this is because in the book, as in, towards the end, Papa Hagin still clung on to some relics of WoF teaching

generationz:
Did you hear about it?
generationz, you'll soon be asking, if hes heard or knew the Pope is Catholic

CaveAdullam:
Nope.
There is nothing anyone can do about the truth, the truth will always prove itself in the passage of time.

By the special Grace of the Almighty God, many Christians are now seeking the Lord Jesus Christ not through their pastor, church, peers or parents but by the comfort and help of the Holy Spirit.

A time is coming, those ministers that are obstinate and are not willing to make a turn to a positive change together with their false associates and pastorpreneurs, will be relegated to their various hometowns after returning all they have stolen by deceit and pressure.

It's just a matter of Time!!!

Happy Sunday.

God bless.
Benny Hinn, needs to go the whole way, dont stop at prosperity gospel but also admit the false hopes, all the fake and/or staged healing sessions he took part in

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Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by jesusjnr(m): 10:50am On Sep 08
AntiMCU:

What's your view on this tithing of a thing.

Personally, I believe in freewill giving: as you're led by the spirit.
To be honest with you, I am not even against tithing, but the overemphasis of it as is being done by Oyedepo and the likes of him in the church as he did on that occasion.

Because that was similar to how the Pharisees overemphasized tithing and such least things over the most important things which made Jesus rebuke them.

So my position is the same as that of Jesus where it should be treated as the minor thing that it is, not as a major.

God bless.
Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by dermmy: 12:28pm On Sep 08
jesusjnr:
To be honest with you, I am not even against tithing, but the overemphasis of it as is being done by Oyedepo and the likes of him in the church as he did on that occasion.

Because that was similar to how the Pharisees overemphasized tithing and such least things over the most important things which made Jesus rebuke them.

So my position is the same as that of Jesus where it should be treated as the minor thing that it is, not as a major.

God bless.


You are not against tithing? Are you saying tithing under the new testament church is right? Ok Did JESUS or any of the Apostles collect tithe? modern day pastors have even gone above that by collecting another one called first fruit. Did the Apostles collect those? Under the old covenant only the Levite were allowed to collect tithe and funny enough they had no portion in the tithe collected because GOD promised he would be their portion.

So how did all these errors creep into the new testament church? Was money a tithing medium in the old testament? Those people tithed animals, farm produce. Who changed it into money under the new testament or are there no animals and agricultural produce in our society anymore?

If my Pastor who is a Nigerian now claims he is a Levite, a lost tribe in Israel how did he arrive at that? Under the new testament the bible says we are all priests and kings so that means we born again christians are all entitled to tithes, first fruit and the rest if that is the case. The old testament people of GOD didn't do monthly tithing so how did this creep into new testament church.

That is why we have fake pastors everywhere because the church rakes in big money through tithes and offering.Everywhere has been litered with church branches because the more the branch the more the money they rake. They are busy running to Europe and America to set up branches because they want tithes in dollars and pounds when the whole of Nigeria has not been captured for GOD. You are running to countries that have lowest crime rates in the world to preach the gospel when your country is still suffering from ritual killing, fraud, criminality, kidnapping etc.

The church is in a dangerous situation. We have liars, greedy men on the pulpit and we think everything they say is right because they pull gullible and lazy crowds who don't understand the word of GOD.

China today censors religion if not for that some Pastors in Nigeria would have littered that country with branches because of their greed. You know China is the second largest economy in the world.

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