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Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by ifyboy60(m): 12:38pm On Oct 02, 2019
raker300:
communism can help nigeria.

Nigeria practiced communism when the government built and controlled industries and provided employment in various sectors.

Every state in nigeria should boast of an industry controlled by the government. That way, unemployment and local content can be boosted.

Let's face it, capitalism isn't working for us

Nigeria never practiced communism, rather we practised a mild form of social democracy which failed spectaculary anyways.
remember NITEL, MTEL, Ajaokuta Steel, Delta Steel, all the government owned Silos have longed collapsed.

our best chance is capitalism, with government controlling health and Education sectors as is done in Scandinavian countries.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Nobody: 12:39pm On Oct 02, 2019
MASTERCHIEF0847:


My point is that it has been proven in many countries over the world that diversity cannot stop development. Singapore and Malaysia are not advanced Europe and both were former British colonies same period.
Singapore is like 75% Chinese and can’t be termed multicultural like Nigeria.

Singapore used to be a part of Malaysia. When they were the same country they used to have tribal/race riots. It wasn’t until they went their separate ways they started succeeding. Tribal differences are important & can impede a country’s success.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by MASTERCHIEF0847(m): 12:39pm On Oct 02, 2019
selemempe:
diversity can not stop development of cause... If in 1957 Western region and eastern region left they would have been miles ahead of were Nigeria has placed them today...both regions were diverse at independence.

What is holding Nigeria back is Hausa Fulani...they introduced every aspect of corruption in our country today... every aspect

I see where you're coming from, your opinion is bigoted. Southern leaders are as culpable as their northern counterparts. Obasanjo invested $16 billion in power sector with nothing to show for it, Goodluck superintended over the massive looting of the country's wealth so the South or other tribes don't have any moral authority to point accusing fingers.
What you're doing is ethnic bigotry.

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Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Mouthpis(m): 12:40pm On Oct 02, 2019
announcement:


Is that an excuse for Nigeria NOT to get its onions right after 59 year of independence? NIGERIA AS A GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION VIA EXISTENCE OF EACH STATE HAS BEEN EXISTING MORE THAN 300 YEAR. ...WHY HAVEN'T THOSE STATES DEVELOPED?

God bless you sire.

I was about telling him that.

All these are just excuses for failure.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by MASTERCHIEF0847(m): 12:42pm On Oct 02, 2019
Stevecovey:

Singapore is like 75% Chinese and can’t be termed multicultural like Nigeria.

Singapore used to be a part of Malaysia. When they were the same country they used to have tribal/race riots. It wasn’t until they went their separate ways they started succeeding. Tribal differences are important & can impede a country’s success.

Singapore has Malays, Indians as citizens along with minority ethnic groups like iban. They are multi cultural.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by midnighter(f): 12:42pm On Oct 02, 2019
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by MASTERCHIEF0847(m): 12:43pm On Oct 02, 2019
OneKinGuy:

All those countries except brazil has one Major ethnicity with other minority. Brazil itself is still a developing nation with high poverty rate and that because it's also has a diversity problem.

Africa's case is different. Nobody wants to be seen as a minority. Every group wants to be at the top. That's why the African continent has major number of civil wars.

Yes they have a major ethnic group but there are also other ethnic groups which makes them diverse.
Africans are daft case closed.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Yoighaman(m): 12:47pm On Oct 02, 2019
Even if we earmarked $5trillion for poverty alleviation, it won't change anything, they will embezzle the funds right from the FG to the LG even to the wards. You know the way fire does butter, that is how they would deal with the funds. Our problem is simply CORRUPTION, don't forget China executes embezzlers, Nigeria celebrates them.

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Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by odinson1(m): 12:47pm On Oct 02, 2019
horpigee1:
bad idea bro..they will just enslave us and take away our natural resources.

never pray for colonize, but pray for God intervention

may God bless Nigeria
we have being praying for nigeria ever since but still,no change



prayer is not everything
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by stagger: 12:53pm On Oct 02, 2019
MASTERCHIEF0847:


That is not an excuse. What of Malaysia and Singapore that have a combination of Malays, Chinese, Indians and other ethnic groups as citizens?
Diversity cannot stop a determined people from development. Nigeria is not a serious nation.

Moreover Singapore got independence when? 1965! No single natural resource.

See them, and see us.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Nobody: 12:55pm On Oct 02, 2019
nakaman:
nice write up. But in china 90% of their population speak mandarine. In Nigeria 1km is another language. Their is no unity, if the whole nigeria were to speak fulani/hausa then they can adapt. Its impossible



You're daft, my must we be one let alone speaking Fulani language?
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by selemempe: 12:58pm On Oct 02, 2019
MASTERCHIEF0847:


I see where you're coming from, your opinion is bigoted. Southern leaders are as culpable as their northern counterparts. Obasanjo invested $16 billion in power sector with nothing to show for it, Goodluck superintended over the massive looting of the country's wealth so the South or other tribes don't have any moral authority to point accusing fingers.
What you're doing is ethnic bigotry.
yes the south has moral rights. Nigeria didn't start in 1999. The south apart from 3 years obj spent and 6months aguiyi spent were not part of the 34 years of northern military rule that gave the country it's present systems. And even at that, obj can beat his chest and say he gave Nigeria a working banking and telecommunications industry.
GEJ can beat his chest and say he built schools and universities in all states and that he made the country the largest economy in Africa...what are the distinct achievements of the hausas in power from 1960 till date. Even nysc was done by a middle Beltan. Nta, nnpc, Nigerian airways, some of our best institutions were built by southerners and middle Beltan in the short periods they spent in power

You talking about looting...who loot pass ibb, abacha and abdulsalami

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Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by jonneljonn(m): 1:00pm On Oct 02, 2019
WE NEED TO PRAY SERIOUSLY FOR OUR COUNTRY NIGERIA,ITS SO SAD THAT AT AGE 59 PEOPLE ARE STILL BEING ARRESTED AND KEPT IN DETAINTION WITHOUT TRIAL,COURT ORDERS ARE DISOBEYED AT WILL,FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION IS BEING DENIED THE CITIZENS,THE COMMONS RESOURCES ARE STILL BEING SHARED AND STOLEN BY A FEW COMMONWHILE THE ORDINARY NIGERIANS GOES HUNGRY WITHOUT FOOD OR WORK TO DO,POWER SUPPLY IS ONLY IN THE VILLA AND GOVERNMENT HOUSES,KILLINGS ,KIDNAPPINGS AND ARMEDROBBERY EVERYWHERE ,SECURITY IS ZERO,AT 59 SECURITY PERSONNELS ARE SEEN COLLECTING BRIBE OPENLY ,SECURITY PERSONNELS ARE SEEN WITHOUT SHOES ON THE HIGHWAYS AND MOST TIMES IN BROTHELS AND BARS WITH WOMEN WITH THEIR UNIFORMS AND GUNS WHILE CRIMINALS ARE OPERATING FREELY,AT 59 NIGERIAN JUDICIARY,INEC ARE NOT INDEPENDENT,THEY ALL DO THE BID OF THE POWER THAT BE ,WHAT A SHAMELESS COUNTRY////////
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by LordIsaac(m): 1:03pm On Oct 02, 2019
Great piece!
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Harrisonwo(m): 1:19pm On Oct 02, 2019
ways to develop Nigeria

1. though harsh and extreme, every couple is only entitled to one child per family. this will slow our population growth

2. implement the death penalty for embezzlement of public funds above $1m and life imprisonment or 30yrs imprisonment for below $1m and forfeiture of properties acquired legally and illegally. Albeiting/aiding should be viewed as partaking in corruption especially in contract awards

3. Funds allocated for budget must be transparent and FoI will come to bare

4. separate allocation accounts, each their of government must operate its own account

5. Merit should be enforced in public recruitment and any found inducing nepotism should be relieved of his/her job n then prosecuted as sabotage (treason)

6. All national resources should be a JVC or oil, gold etc and 15% for states such resources are found


Just do the above and others will fall in line
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by maasoap(m): 1:19pm On Oct 02, 2019
nakaman:
Any tribe can employ any tribe within or outside nigeria. Those in power will not make such employment. Here favouritism rule. How many key post is held by the SE OR SS. or you think they dont know what they are doing

The same thing goes for southerners too. When GEJ was there, all military chiefs came from the South. When Stella was at the Aviation Ministry, over 70% of the newly appointed workers were from the SE. There were noises but we all moved on at the end of the day. So, tell me something unique

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Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Nobody: 1:21pm On Oct 02, 2019
When Peter Obi was using China as an example during his campaign, evil people turned the narrative into a artificial mockery. Many good people fell to the antics of those devils.

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Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by oostin: 1:21pm On Oct 02, 2019
timesup234:
In terms of development Nigeria and China were at par 40 years ago
I kinda disagree. China first tested a nuclear weapon in 1964 and launched it's first satellite in 1970. They might not have been as wealthy 40 years ago as they are now but they were certainly ahead of us in terms of technological advancement.

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Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Neoteny(m): 1:28pm On Oct 02, 2019
China is one of the oldest civilizations

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Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by maasoap(m): 1:32pm On Oct 02, 2019
selemempe:
yes the south has moral rights. Nigeria didn't start in 1999. The south apart from 3 years obj spent and 6months aguiyi spent were not part of the 34 years of northern military rule that gave the country it's present systems. And even at that, obj can beat his chest and say he gave Nigeria a working banking and telecommunications industry.


The same banking industry that became almost became bankrupt if not for proactive measures by Sanusi.
And the telecommunications industry? Tell me exactly what Obj did. He gave out licenses and approvals. It wasn't like he deployed Nigerian resources for massive infrastructural and developmental projects.

GEJ can beat his chest and say he built schools and universities in all states and that he made the country the largest economy in Africa...


Largest economy my yansh. You forgot to mention that that was as a result of crude oil selling at over 100 dollars per barrel.
And schools built by GEJ? I'm still searching for them. Lol

what are the distinct achievements of the hausas in power from 1960 till date. Even nysc was done by a middle Beltan. Nta, nnpc, Nigerian airways, some of our best institutions were built by southerners and middle Beltan in the short periods they spent in power

You talking about looting...who loot pass ibb, abacha and abdulsalami
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Cousin9999: 1:53pm On Oct 02, 2019
The US handed their entire manufacturing industry to China on a silver platter. THAT is what pulled them out of where they were. Guess what though? China is STILL a 3rd world country and most of its people don't want to be there. That's why they're still in every other country like a bunch of roaches and rats. There are tons of Chinese that would love to be in Nigeria because China is dirty, full of criminals, and sucks. Chinese are complaining and angry because more are being denied student and work visas in the US.

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Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Nobody: 1:55pm On Oct 02, 2019
There is no country that is 50-50 Muslims and Christians, 3 major ethnic group and practice the system of government we're practicing can ever be successful, Nigeria is really trying o.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Cousin9999: 1:59pm On Oct 02, 2019
China has no real power. China is Russia's pawn. China doesn't stand a chance in a war against the US or Russia.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by horpigee1(m): 1:59pm On Oct 02, 2019
odinson1:
we have being praying for nigeria ever since but still,no change



prayer is not everything
when last did you pray for Nigeria??

when last did you wake up and say God bless Nigeria??
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Tonnyray: 2:07pm On Oct 02, 2019
boss1310:
China is not 70 years old rather they are celebrating the 70 year old rule of communist Chinese republic.
Thank you for this. You took the words out of my mouth.

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Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by selemempe: 2:09pm On Oct 02, 2019
maasoap:


The same banking industry that became almost became bankrupt if not for proactive measures by Sanusi.
Nigeria has the second largest financial services sector in Africa, helped by banking reforms of 2004. As a result, Nigeria received BB- rating (best ... rating in West Africa) from S&P in February 2006.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.isc.hbs.edu/resources/courses/moc-course-at-harvard/Documents/pdf/student-projects/Nigeria_Financial_Services_2008.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiu4Zj9z_3kAhWvx4UKHb9PDRkQFjAEegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2eRb4BvN91YV3nqw5GuscG

the telecommunications industry? Tell me exactly what Obj did. He gave out licenses and approvals. It wasn't like he deployed Nigerian resources for massive infrastructural and developmental projects.

Deregulation of the mobile phone market by Obasanjo's administration has led to the introduction of Global System for Mobile Communication (GSM) network providers operating on the 900/1800 MHz spectrum, MTN Nigeria,[19] Airtel Nigeria,[20] Globacom,[21] and 9mobile. Use of cell-phones has soared, and has mostly replaced the unreliable fixed line services of Nigerian Telecommunications Limited (NITEL).

argest economy my yansh. You forgot to
mention that that was as a result of crude oil selling at over 100 dollars per barrel.



NEWS /
Nigeria becomes Africa's largest economy
South Africa overtaken as biggest economy in Africa after Nigeria rebases GDP calculation to more than $500bn.

06 Apr 2014 GMT+3
Nigeria has overtaken South Africa as Africa's largest economy after a rebasing calculation almost doubled its gross domestic product to more than $500bn, data from the statistics office showed.


GDP for 2013 in Africa's top oil producer was 80.22 trillion naira, or $509.9bn, the Nigeria Bureau of Statistics said on Sunday, up from the 42.3 trillion estimated before the rebasing, according to the Reuters news agency.

Most governments overhaul GDP calculations every few years to reflect changes in output, but Nigeria had not done so since 1990, so sectors such as e-commerce, mobile phones and its prolific "Nollywood" film industry - now worth 1.4 percent of GDP, Kale said - had to be factored in to give a better picture.

Nigeria, Africa's most populous country with 170 million people, has been growing as an investment destination owing to the size of its consumer market and growing capital markets.

and schools built by GEJ? I'm still searching for them. Lol


Goodluck Jonathan administration embarked on the Almajiri Education Programme which saw to the construction and equipment of 157 Tsangaya (Almajiri) Model Schools across Nigeria. ABDUSSALAM AMOO visited some of the sites of the schools in North Western Nigeria recently and reports about the deterioration of facilities and abandonment of the programme.
These are some of the 14 Universities built by President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, with their structures in no particular order
1] Federal University, Lafia, Nasarawa State. —North Central.
2] Federal University, Lokoja, Kogi State. ——-North Central.
3] Federal University, Kashere, Gombe State.– North East.
4] Federal University, Wakari, Taraba State. —-North East.
5] Federal University, Dutsin-Ma, Katsina State.-North West.
6] Federal University, Dutse, Jigawa State.——-North West.
7] Federal University, Otuoke, Bayelsa State. —South South.
8] Federal University, Ndufe-Alike, Ebonyi State.-South East.
9] Federal University, Oye-Ekiti, Ekiti State.——-South West.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by biuty20: 2:14pm On Oct 02, 2019
Development in Nigeria was regionalized right from the start. To achieve this kind of China's development, our leaders must forget about regional sentiment and focus more on Nigeria's growth and development.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by Cousin9999: 2:20pm On Oct 02, 2019
Cousin9999:
The US handed their entire manufacturing industry to China on a silver platter. THAT is what pulled them out of where they were. Guess what though? China is STILL a 3rd world country and most of its people don't want to be there. That's why they're still in every other country like a bunch of roaches and rats. There are tons of Chinese that would love to be in Nigeria because China is dirty, full of criminals, and sucks. Chinese are complaining and angry because more are being denied student and work visas in the US.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by orisa37: 2:38pm On Oct 02, 2019
raker300:
Compare:

Pic 1: China

Pic2: Nigeria


We can learn a lot from China but we must first remove the curse on Nigeria by Prayers and Supplication.
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by UniQue84: 2:39pm On Oct 02, 2019
don't know what to say
Re: Nigeria At 59: What We Can Learn From China That Is 70 Years Old by UniQue84: 2:46pm On Oct 02, 2019
AgonyOfHell:
There is no country that is 50-50 Muslims and Christians, 3 major ethnic group and practice the system of government we're practicing can ever be successful, Nigeria is really trying o.
hello sir, pls can you show me how to write using color, bold and size with examples for comments and signature...like urs .. Thanks in anticipation.

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